I'm looking to buy a new exhaust system for my XB and i was hoping that someone could help me out with their experience on their exhausts!
I'm looking for something that looks good, fits the stock location, gives me a little more hp, and most of all does not make a lot of noise!! I can't stand that loud wasp sound that comes out of some of these cars that are running around..
Thanks for your help!!

Let Me help you, www.precisionmuffler.com, good stuff, reasonable price.

i belive that borla 's stuff isnt to loud but definately check out precisionmuffler.com im running the magnaflow catback system and i love it ... i was running an apexi axel back and it was alright ...

greddy is quiet and well as CARB legal =)

The Apexi N1 Evolution axel back kicks ___! I got it. Good luck finding another though, I got the only one in the US! :lol: 8) :twisted: :mrgreen:

I've got the www.Precisionmuffler.com axleback for the Auto xB. Looks good, sounds good, don't know about power gains but it was priced better than almost all the xB axlebacks I've seen. It's built with a Magnaflow so quality is there too...

I've been pretty satisfied with the TRD exhaust. Its not too loud and pretty cool

I've heard several exhausts available, and IMO the Flowmaster is the best sounding axle-back exhaust.........even better than the Magnaflow cat-back. I know, it's surprising, but others I know agree.

You're not really going to notice a gain in hp from anything though.

for get axle, just go cat back and get the magnaflow exhaust

for get axle, just go cat back and get the magnaflow exhaust

will you need a header for the complete setup? or so thats what i was told my unamed sources.

no, CAT BACK means CAT BACK not MANIFOLD BACK. so you don't need a header for a CAT back

I've been pretty satisfied with the TRD exhaust. Its not too loud and pretty cool

and its covered by warranty.

I love mine, plus the tip is _____in :shock:

nah, i got the GReddy Evo 2 axle back....4.5 inch tip, this thing is huge and not loud at all, nice smotth and deep.easy to install too, str8 bolt on, makes all my other friends ricer mufflers look bad...Go w/ greddy, ull love it ;)

I'm looking to buy a new exhaust system for my XB and i was hoping that someone could help me out with their experience on their exhausts!
I'm looking for something that looks good, fits the stock location, gives me a little more hp, and most of all does not make a lot of noise!! I can't stand that loud wasp sound that comes out of some of these cars that are running around..
Thanks for your help!!

You're with Scinergy? I'd check out Sam's hot lava xB as he has the Magnaflow catback system.

Are you near west covina???

I can make you a catback for $120 with universal muffler installed

Id go with a custm setup. it gives you a mass multitude of tip options and u can make it loud or quiet. custom is the cheapest / best way to go.

Id go with a custm setup. it gives you a mass multitude of tip options and u can make it loud or quiet. custom is the cheapest / best way to go.

custom is not the best way to go unless you have a dyno set up to test all possible options. if you buy a manufactured exhaust then they have dyno tested it and you know what to expect. most of the time you lose horsepower with a custom setup.

i' will never believe that. only if u were to go too big. any system that still retain the stock resonator is dumb who cares if past the axle is 2.25 inch if the exhaust between the end of the resonator and the axle connection is 1.75 inch? i know alotta people run too big of piping and hurt perfomance. i ran 2 inch from cat back with a 2 inch glasspack as my resonator. and then 2.0 inch from there to my muffler. i guess i need to dyno now . too badi i'd have to take my header and intake off to do so lol. but i can guarantee you that my setup produces more hp than almost all axle backs.

only way to know is to dyno.

well if i was marketing them then i would but i'm not all i know is what is your theory as to how it's worse? ever notice how race cars have custom exhausts? i dont wanna fight i just wanna get why u think this is all. if someone paid me to cover the dyno costs and like 10 or 20 bucks for my time i would do it and see.

The brandname exhaust companies don't post the dyno on their website either, just sound clips, not even the sound level. They always say "dyno proven" but I never see their dynos. They have the technology but they hardly compare their product with the others. It is difficult to find the right exhuast for me. If anyone can provide some dyno info on exhuasts, I would be appreciated.

usually the axle backs only give about 2HP+ ,it also depends if you have a header or intake. The axle back helps with HP but alone your really only gettin a 2hp gain.

only way to know is to dyno.


But I still didn’t hear no dyno-moe humm,
dyno-moe humm

dyno-moe humm
dyno-moe humm
Where this dyno-moe
Comin’ from
Done spent three hours
An’ I ain’t got a crumb
From the dyno-moe, dyno-moe, dyno-moe
From the dyno-moe humm

with apologies to Frank Z.

pics are worth a 1000 words........
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/xBguy/xB%20pics/axleback2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/xBguy/xB%20pics/axleback5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/xBguy/xB%20pics/axleback6.jpg
IMO, the best deal out there!!!!

Pix are worth a 1000 words........

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid144/p0584cd30c5d8029a2ec9274cfe195e9c/f676a830.jpg

IMO, the best work out there!

The brandname exhaust companies don't post the dyno on their website either, just sound clips, not even the sound level. They always say "dyno proven" but I never see their dynos. They have the technology but they hardly compare their product with the others. It is difficult to find the right exhuast for me. If anyone can provide some dyno info on exhuasts, I would be appreciated.

i know magnaflow had dynos posted on their old site, but they are not linked on the new site

come on now settle down people 8)
Anyways just look at the pics they do speak for themself...
I got to say Stylis has one of the dopest exaust system out there.
I bought his axal back and bolted it in in 15 minutes.
As soon as i started my car i just started laughing :D
I was so pleased. know i have had it on for 1,000 miles and i still love it.
his welds are the shiznit, and for the price you cant beat it 8)

I'll have an axleback out soon enuff.

I'll have an axleback out soon enuff.

what kind of axleback, Brad? Too bad we don't have alot of VIPpers (VIP Tuners) out there that are not saying anything about the VIP axleback mufflers? LOL :D

I have the injen one and its great. Fits great and is real quiet.

DB Test
http://www.injen.com/webpages/videos_sound/injen_ses2100_db.avi

Sound
http://www.injen.com/webpages/videos_sound/injen_ses2100_sound.avi

Honestly...arguing over a possible 5 hp gain, if any at all gained is stupid! Seriously, the stock muffler uses what 1.75 inch piping? So if you want to gain HP go with slightly larger piping and keep the cat and resonator. If you want torque just get rid of the resonator and get any damn exhaust you like, while keeping the smaller piping. Most high end cars will not gain torque with huge pipes, there MIGHT be some hp gained. They just market "free flowing" exhausts because thats what the demand is for, even though it isn't the best in terms of performance.


My point....get whatever you like.

i like squirrels exhaust..the magnaflow looks sweet also..

Thanks folks for trying!But All I really wanted was something that looked good and didn't make a lot of noise! Thanks But I found what I was looking for..

I'll have an axleback out soon enuff.

what kind of axleback, Brad? Too bad we don't have alot of VIPpers (VIP Tuners) out there that are not saying anything about the VIP axleback mufflers? LOL :D

I still trying to work on some actual tips from Japan. That, coupled w/ a nice, low throaty, muffler for not an over bearing exhaust note.

Thanks folks for trying!But All I really wanted was something that looked good and didn't make a lot of noise! Thanks But I found what I was looking for..

Glad you found what you were looking for. :) We were all here to help.

Thanks folks for trying!But All I really wanted was something that looked good and didn't make a lot of noise! Thanks But I found what I was looking for..

I hear you, what did you end up finding?

I hear you, what did you end up finding?

stock lol

I happy with my stock exhaust, but once the paint job is complete I would like to go with the performance look for show purpose only. I want a show car not a race car.

I have the injen one and its great. Fits great and is real quiet.

DB Test
http://www.injen.com/webpages/videos_sound/injen_ses2100_db.avi

Sound
http://www.injen.com/webpages/videos_sound/injen_ses2100_sound.avi

Holy ____ that's quiet!!! Looks good too!!!

How much is the Injen axelback?? I want one of those!

-THE DON

I have the injen one and its great. Fits great and is real quiet.

DB Test
http://www.injen.com/webpages/videos_sound/injen_ses2100_db.avi

Sound
http://www.injen.com/webpages/videos_sound/injen_ses2100_sound.avi

Holy ____ that's quiet!!! Looks good too!!!

How much is the Injen axelback?? I want one of those!

-THE DON

Here it is
http://www.scionlife.com/parts/images/parts/10310_ses2100.jpg


http://www.scionlife.com/parts/review_list.php?item_id=10310&cat_id=3&sub_cat_id=3

Injen Axelback:

Retail $490

PTtuning $350

Eh, it's not that quiet... lol

-THE DON

JIC magic appeals to me more ;)

Is JIC more money or more in sound?

the JIC is loud! My buddy ad-roc has the JiC and dam that thing rocks the cabin. :shock: But ad-roc loves it! :D Thats all that matters.

$150 up in Palmdale at Eastside Muffler for 2.25 inch mandrel bent cat back exhaust with a Magnaflow muffler. James knows Scions, if you remember his PW xB that was Turbo'd and had a rollcage.

axleback with muffler installed $70...I don't care who you are or how good your quality is...that is the price you should pay for an axleback cuz they'll all do the same thing...make 1whp coupled with headers and intake.

JIC magic appeals to me more ;)

I know two people that took off their JiC axlebacks when other options became available. Reason: Too loud inside the passenger compartment.

too much resonance eh? whats the canister of the jic one look like?

I'll let me buddy post up if he chooses as I'm tired of getting second guessed by all of these "experts". Or I'll tell you in person the next time I see you.

Don't bother with JIC...they are the APC of Japan

was thinking about getting the magnaflow has anybody installed it themselves was wondering how difficult also pics from under the car would be outstanding if you have any

The cat back? or the axle back? :D

cat back but i think i found it on magnaflows website...it looks simple i'll be able to take care of it now all i need to do is find it for the cheapest possible price...anybody know what can beat 459 with free shipping cause thats the best that ive found

sorry I haven't seen it cheaper than that since the sponcered sales on it. There was a sponcered sales for cheaper, but the sale ended. :sad:

just get a custom cat back made. same quality and alot cheaper. any shop can and will do it , muffler tech , michaels mufflers , midas , meineke , oh and lets not forget precisionmuffler

I want my exhaust to be custom welded... I would love to have Gabe do it, but I live too far... And frankly I don't like magnaflow...

He should make some axelbacks with other (non-magnaflow) mufflers!

Peace

-THE DON

was thinking about getting the magnaflow has anybody installed it themselves was wondering how difficult also pics from under the car would be outstanding if you have any

i installed mine. it was a pain in the ___. the hard part is removing the stock exhaust from the black rubber hangers. once you get the stock exhaust off, it goes on so easy.

just get a custom cat back made. same quality and alot cheaper. any shop can and will do it , muffler tech , michaels mufflers , midas , meineke , oh and lets not forget precisionmuffler

Thank You for the plug. :D You da man.

I want my exhaust to be custom welded... I would love to have Gabe do it, but I live too far... And frankly I don't like magnaflow...

He should make some axelbacks with other (non-magnaflow) mufflers!

Peace

-THE DON

When you come to my shop I can make you a custom axle back,want one from a flowmaster? Done. Need one from a Borla just because?! Done. I am a custom exhaust shop you know, all you need to do is ask. :shock: Why do you think that Al. Trustic has a different tip on his axle back. He asked for a custom one. :twisted:

Remember that I am here on Scionlife to help out my fellow scion peeps. :D
Al. Trustic's custom tip axle back:
http://www.precisionmuffler.com/1bf30a40.png
:D

I want my exhaust to be custom welded... I would love to have Gabe do it, but I live too far... And frankly I don't like magnaflow...

He should make some axelbacks with other (non-magnaflow) mufflers!

Peace

-THE DON

I have a custom welded one also, and my tip has only 3/16" gap from the rear lip. My set-up doesn't move at all. :wink: And its 2.25 inch from the resonator back.

I did go with Magnaflow, but varied from having a canister as I needed clearance and had it mounted as high up as I could go. The frame rails hang lower than my exhaust.

Thanks to Ken at Michael's Mufflers located at Bascom and Stevens Creek in San Jose.