I am planning on buying these as my next mod and was just wondering how they affect ride quality if anyone can help me out.

thanks,
Austin

Please use the search! This has been asked before!

You'll be a little bit bouncier, but definatley able to make a faster turn...

I am also looking to do either Tanabe DF210s or NF210s on my xD, deciding if I want the extra 1/2" drop of the DFs, and how the ride will differ with either... The NFs are a little lower than the TRD springs... I've seen some xD postings on this, but not enough to make my decision yet. I have 18x7.5 aftermarket wheels and 225/40/18 tires, wondering if the DF's might cause any rubbing, could be a close call...

also something that has been previously posted... use the search...

You need to know what your offset is before you'll know if they will rub...

if i have 16 inch aftermarket wheels will the DF's be fine?

so the NF's are lower than the TRD's?

how low should i go??

NFs are lower than the TRDs by far, don't waste your money on the TRDs.

As long as you don't get 18" and super wide 17" wheels+tires, you should have no issues with rubbing on DFs.

Depending on your road quality of where you live, you might not like the DFs since they will be stiffer than the NFs. I'm on NFs and I love them :)

alright i think im still going to decide between the NF's and DF's, thanks alot! now its time to save up the money

ii jst ordered the df :)

or go with the 18's but just make sure to get the right tire set up and offsets to make it clear with no rubbing.

if anyone is intersted in ordering DF's or NF's i can get em at discount prices.


DF's will run 180/ NF's190.

PM me if youre interested

if you're interested in either of these (NF's or DF's ) you can get them at

http://www.microimageonline.com/index.html

in the Suspension section (they are the same part numbers for the XD and Yaris if I'm not mistaken) the ones listed for Yaris

DF's are 158 free shipping
NF's are 168 free shipping

I just thought this was a good deal and worth noting.

way to rip my balls off bro.....

lol jk jk. good find

since the "secret" is out. I got mines at ptuning.com. got df's for 150 plus another 10 shipping

HRM seems we be over chargin!

might have to fix it...

That is weird that the NFs are $10 more than the DFs. Less material for the lower drop I guess :rofl:

stiffer spring weight = more density. so thats probably the reason for the difference in price

Hey guys not to jack this thread but has anyone run these on their RS1 im wanting more drop on mine and thinking on swapping the TRD's for df's any input on if will scrape the lip kit or not

theres 6 inch ground clearance (probably 6.5" up front) on a non-RS (no lip) xD. IMO, there shuold be enough clearance.

thats with DF's btw.

I have the DF210's and I have the TRD 18x7.5 wheel. No rubbing what so ever.

thats good :relief: , im about to slap mines this weekend lol

since this is about DF's, I figured anyone who doesn't have them yet might be interseted. I'm thinking about taking my DF's off and I'm trying to gauge how many people would be interested.

I'd sell them for 150- they have about 700 - 800 miles on em (cant really remember the exact but 800 is the most.) and most of it is freeway (if that matters to anyone.)

anybody interested PM me, and maybe we can set it up

I have a set of NF210's on craigs list for $90. And I will be selling my DF's along with my TRD struts for about $300 OBO

So what are you guys planning to do instead, trying another brand of lowering springs, coilovers, bags, go back to stock?? don't like the ride or don't like the look? hmmm...

and uh, DF's for $150 is not much of a bargain used when you can buy them new for that price... even if they're slightly used, they're used none the less...

oh well, my lowering plans have pretty much been put on hold, I just lost my job on Friday, so kiss ALL my mods goodbye for awhile... Ironically, I had just recently purchased a $600 set of new wheels and they arrived at my house the day I was laid off. crap.

actually you can't buy xD springs new for 150. Cheapest sells them for 180 (as i've been quoted).....the springs that sell for 150 are for the Yaris. I wouldn't trust putting yaris springs on an xD, which is heavier....(and yes...i've been called out on this fact countless times). But I stand by my word. maybe ill think about lowering it to about 130, and the mileage on them is relatively small....

anyway, I'm going back to stock....im planning on getting rid the xD so I figure I'll get more money from it by keeping it stock, and at least i can make SOME money back by selling off my springs.

really sorry to hear about your job :\....i truly hope you can find a new one soon. best of luck

I am planning on buying these as my next mod and was just wondering how they affect ride quality if anyone can help me out.

thanks,
Austin
Ok here is my experience with springs so far,

When I first purchased my xb2 it came with some TRD springs, I loved them but thought they were a little too high still, even though they were lowering springs…. The ride quality was good not bad, I guess this goes hand in hand with what type of tires/wheels your running, in my case I have 19” wheels with a 235/35 tire(TRD’). After some thought and helpful advice, I decided to go lower I was looking for a more aggressive stance.

I purchased some Sprint Performance Springs, these gave me a 2.0 drop all around, it looked great the front was pretty clean the front tires actually tucked in slightly. I was not too impressed with the rear look. The ride was a bit harsher than I anticipated, I felt that S.S. needed a bit more RND in regards to their springs for the 2nd gen, these looked exactly like the 1st gen xB but just thicker. I loved the drop but just decided I was not going to sacrifice ride quality too much, especially since I’m driving 50 miles a day (round trip).

So after 500 miles on the Sprints I purchased some Tanabe DF’s. I wanted to continue to have the aggressive drop. I also heard that ride quality was nice. I also liked that the rear drop which was slightly lower it definitely gave it a more balance drop. After I finish installing them, I will never forget my test drive…it was like rolling on grass, it was so smooth and comfortable I could not believe! It was almost deceiving , I did not feel like my car was so low to the ground, the turning was great (I do have sway bar and strut bars installed). I would dare to say that these felt better than my TRD’s!! I’m extremely happy with the DF’s they gave me that ride height that I was looking for and the comfort that I desired for my daily commute.

In conclusion it’s really up to you and what future plans you have for your ride, regardless you cannot go wrong with Tanabe’s either the DF’s or NF’s, Just ask yourself “what kind of ride Height, am I desiring?”, another thing to consider is your wheels and if you will be placing any lip kits on ride….

For me my next venture is coil-over’s, probably should have went with them first, but I didn’t have the same plans for my ride before…TO BE CONTINUE…

Thanks Digon - good to know the Tanabe have a much better ride than the Sprint - I kinda thought the Sprint springs were gonna be a bit stiffer ride, but it sounds like it's actually quite a bit more...

Has anyone else tried more than one brand of spring and noticed a difference they can tell us about? That would help out others in making a choice, for sure...

actually you can't buy xD springs new for 150. Cheapest sells them for 180 (as i've been quoted).....the springs that sell for 150 are for the Yaris. I wouldn't trust putting yaris springs on an xD, which is heavier....(and yes...i've been called out on this fact countless times).

OK... Well yes, the curb weight for the xD is 330 pounds heavier than the Yaris in the 5-speed models, 2625 lbs xD, 2295 lbs Yaris. But, the Tanabe website itself lists the exact same part number (TDF121) for DF210s for both the xD and the Yaris, with the exact same spring rates (3.0 front, 2.2 rear) for both vehicles. The retail price listed is also $200 for both vehicles. The only difference I see is that the listed drop is .3 inches lower both front and rear for the xD (1.6/1.8 Yaris, 1.9/2.2 xD) which would just be due to the added weight of the xD, rather than a different set of springs. So I'm just curious where you're getting your information that the DF210's for the Yaris are different or cheaper than the springs for the xD, when Tanabe themselves specifies the same part number for both vehicles on their website.

The cheapest price I have found online for a new set of Tanabe Spings with part number TDF121 is $140, and yes, they are listed for the Yaris, but if they really are the exact same spring as for the xD, then it would actually be the same price for the xD as well... That's just my line of reasoning... :)

when i stated that i wouldnt trust putting yaris springs on my car i wasn't talking about DF's NF's /tanabes.....obviously that isnt apparent in my post because i didnt seperate nor specifiy it....but yes....i know its the same part number etc...

my idea was more of putting something like coilovers from a yaris on an xD because those are calibrated to specific weights and distributions to work and function for the vehicle...BUT enough justifying myself...it was my mistake to word it so poorly so w/e

and if the cheapest you found em for is 140 then ill sell them for 140. if you want them for 140 i'd gladly sell it to you...

no, no, sorry for the wrong impression, TRDxD, I wasn't trying to coerce you to lower the price so I could buy them from you - I just got laid off from work last week so I have no money to do ANY mods right now... I was just pointing out the current pricing strictly on the DF210's for you, thinking you may have a little difficulty selling your set used for the price you were asking... I meant it as just trying to help out... and, the research I did on this will also help me in making a decision down the road once I am gainfully employed again! :ponder:

its np! I'm sure most people are pretty crunched for money so if and when you decide to buy DF's . I'm probably going to be uninstalling them relatively soon, and maybe we can work something out down the road? that is, if you wouldnt mind a used pair. keep it in mind and when youre ready, let me know!

i really hope you can find a job...its getting pretty scary out there right now..best of luck

yeah, thanks - I'm ok for now, guess the panic hasn't really sunk in yet... I'll start to really worry in about 4 or 5 months from now when all my money runs out and I have to sell the house or foreclose... :nails:

I have the DF210's with 18x8 +45 offset wheels and the 5axis lip kit.
There are no rubbing issues with that setup, been running that for close to a year with no problems.
Also, the ride is surprisingly comfortable with lowering that much. Could even say better ride than stock, plus didn't even need alignment.
DF's are the way to go if you want it low.

I just got the DF210's on Wed and I love em. I'm tucking the rear and have a 18x7 with a +35 offset with no rubbing. Oh they ride much better than the TRD's did.

Let me get this straight, so the DF is 1/2 inch lower than a trd? And the NF is a "lil" lower? About how much?
I have the TRD springs right now but I want something lower, my rims is about 18x7 with 38+ offset I think 225/40.

Also Cuball, are you still selling that springs and TRD struts, if so can you show me some pics? I'm interested ^_^


Thanks fellas!

You have it backwards. Here are the drops.

NF210 Front 1.4 Rear 1.8

DF210 Front 1.8 Rear 2.2

I Think the TRD's are 1.1 and 1.4, but I dont know for sure.


Yes, I just finished up my Ksport coilovers, so my TRD struts and the DF210's will be up for sale soon. I will get some pic's and have it all posted up on the classified section of this web site by tomorrow.

oooo ic.. thanks alot cuball. im def gettin the DF210's. by what i learned, i wont have any rubbing issues with my current setup.


thanks again! :bow:

Are you running the TRD 18's with the Proxie 4's? If so That is the same setup I have. I had no problems with rubbing.

nah, i have the Sportmax SSR-962's the rim spec is 18/7.5 with a 38 offset.

my tire is 225/40z/18


just want to make sure that a DF210 is suitable for my setup.

thanks again cuball

nah, i have the Sportmax SSR-962's the rim spec is 18/7.5 with a 38 offset.

my tire is 225/40z/18


just want to make sure that a DF210 is suitable for my setup.

thanks again cuball

You'll be fine, I know someone with an xd with the same setup. no issues!

I have my DF's and the TRD struts listed in the classified section.

What condition roads are you guys driving on and how is the ride. Do you have aftermarket shocks? I am worried the DFs will be too low for the Boston/New England area and winters.

Roads that I drive on are not bad, some bad paving here and there, but that it. The ride is stiffer you will get some bounce, but thats a given when lowering your car. I wouldnt recommend driving my car with its current setup in snowy conditions, but the DF's...shouldnt be that bad. I didnt have any rubbing under any road conditions I experienced with the DF's.

I am kind of tired of my 210's. The rear sits a tad lower than the front and the rear spring rate sucks IMO. I think they just took the yaris rates / springs and packaged them for the XD. Looking into another spring.

That are they are a little more harsh that I like.

Quick update, looked at teins, and the rear spring is in the 30%+ stiffer range but looks to be the same drop. Considering them right now.

Hey Garage1217, if you looking for more flexibility and control of your drop you have to go to coilovers. I dont think there is a set of springs that evens out the drop from front to back, the back is always lower. I went through two sets of springs to figure that out and finally went to Ksport coilovers. I'm very happy with them, they even ride better than my DF's, but I was running TRD struts. And you can go as low as you want up front, much more than the Teins. The rear...not as much, but you could remove the spring perch and get another 1" maybe. I have them all the way down in back and I dont have any gap.

I am pretty familiar with coilovers ;) owned a few sets in my day. And I do not want it perfectly even, I like the rear a tad higher & it needs a stiffer rate in the back which is why I am looking into the eibachs or teins. Helps make the car even when carrying a load or passengers. Right now, the rear feels undersprung and floppy, especially with any weight in the back at all. Thanks for the advice :)