I just ordered a set of Ksport coilovers for $820 shipped! Can't wait to get these on my car. This is my third suspension swapout. I started with Tanabe NF210's then DF210's and now the coilovers. I think this will be the last....but maybe not :P

no wonder youre selling two sets of springs.....i was wondering hahah

post pics of install process. im sure theres some interested people (and though i know the installation process...i do enjoy looking at install pics :D )

can't wait to see how you set it up. that's why for me i skipped the whole spring upgrade and went straight to coilovers.

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Hey cuball...you wasn't kidding about getting the set. You'll be another satisfied user. I know I am. I love the kit. I got mine set at about 4-1/2' clearance up front and 5" at back from the side skirts. That's with my 18" rims. Have fun installing.

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Yea coilovers are the way to go, I wish I would of went with them the first time around...although I must of be one of the first to buy an xD. I got it in April 08, and back then Tanabe was the only one selling springs besides TRD for my car. I will try and get as many pics as possible.

Yea Pumpkin...your ride looks sweet, your the reason I went with the Ksports.

Peace

that's why i ended up ordering rims and suspension first then the car. ok that's a little backwards.

nice.. im sure glad people are modding the xd... so how low does the ksports go?.... i just ordered some coilovers for my girlfriends xd... along with new wheels : ) should all be here in about 3 months : )

Thats a good question. I don't know the limits of the Ksport coilovers, but looking at pumpkins car...I don't think I need much more than where he is at right now. And by the looks of his pics...he has a lot more room for adjustment. Teins have about a 3" max. Bottom line is you have more flexibility with coilovers than just standard coils.

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If you want to go lower, don't forget the bags. LOL.

Yup, got my inspiration from katchkillah who has the teins and it almost does the same.

WHOA katch...You bought the rims and tires before you got the car??? that is backwards. LOL.

I switched up the settings on the car and now it feels alot better. I dunno if you want to try it. I got the front sways about a pinky away from the arm with the adjustable connectors to the struts. This is with the struts fully connected and hanging. Got the dampening at 1 full turn before the softest. That is after you go clockwise all the way till it stops, go counter clockwise about 5 full turns. and the springs was set at snug plus 2 more full turns.

The rear, you will need two pair of hands. as you are lifting to install the shocks, because the springs are lower and at an awkward angle, someone needs to cohorse it in place while aligning the shocks in its hole at the same time. OR you could do it my way bymyself and install the top mount shock first then slowly go up and tinkle with both at the same time.

sorry for the story. let me know if you run into trouble, which you shouldn't.

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Thanks Pumpkin...all the info you can give is appreciated. I have never put in coilovers before. I'm glad you told me about the dampening setting. I figured that would be the most difficult to figure out Although I think if I go to soft I'm going to have some rub unless I can adjust my camber to pull the tire in a little.

Yea katchkillah car looks real nice too. I was going to get the Tein's but they were $200 more.

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You can adjust the front camber by pushing the wheel discinward from the top. The top hole on the strut has a grooved hole for camber adjustmant. As far as the rear for cambering, when you go lower, it will camber itself a little. Hope that helps.

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how's the ride quality compare to just having springs? I have trd springs with stock struts and shocks, living in the northeast, the ride can be a little rough at time. roads aren't as smooth as the west. Considering going with coilovers instead for when it's time to replace the struts/shock.Also coilovers will allow me to adjust height of car between summer & winter driving.

ok guys...report the ride quality with the ksport coilovers...is it jarring??

man i wish i can get hold of one over hear...any model name or number to this?? probably check it out locally here... :pray:

Part number CSC050-KP. This might be a USA part number. But thats all I got.

I will post about the ride quality soon.

Part number CSC050-KP. This might be a USA part number. But thats all I got.

I will post about the ride quality soon.

thanks cuball!!...

what kinda driving you into ?

what kinda driving you into ?

who me? what i look into for coilover is lowered ride with a least impact on the ride quality. for me the stock ride is just nice (assuming its the same setup with iSt) but i HATE the wheel G A P. i know changing springs will do fine but i dont want to end up blowing the suspension and back to square one..the tarred roads here are with speed humps and speed strips. if i want to change will go direct to coilovers... :pray:

I got the Ksports today! Unfortunately I won't have them on for another couple of weeks. I will post some pics and compare the ride with my DF's as soon as I can.

Hey Pumpkin, A couple of questions about your setup. One the front struts, how much of the strut do you have poking out of the btm of the lower mount? Also the rear setup, I know this might be difficult, if you cant get the measurement...no biggie. How much thread do you have showing out of the btm part of the strut? I know that this adjustment is based on how the spring perch is adjusted, but I will be sitting about the same height as your setup and I just want a starting point to minimize the removal and install of the suspension.

Thanks Man

where did you find those for 820? the lowest ive found is 900

Hey Pumpkin, A couple of questions about your setup. One the front struts, how much of the strut do you have poking out of the btm of the lower mount? Also the rear setup, I know this might be difficult, if you cant get the measurement...no biggie. How much thread do you have showing out of the btm part of the strut? I know that this adjustment is based on how the spring perch is adjusted, but I will be sitting about the same height as your setup and I just want a starting point to minimize the removal and install of the suspension.

Thanks Man

Sup cuball...the front has 1/2" thread out from the bottom and the rear has 1/2" of thread below the spring perch. With this set up, the front sits a little lower than the rear. A little note, no matter how much adjustment you make in the rear to even it out from side to side, it won't work. Well, I didn't for me. For some reason, Scion made the car to sit one side lower than the other in the rear. So, As much as I tried to compensate for the difference on one side, the other follows. LOL. Hope that helps. Feel free to ask for help. I will try and gladly help what I can.

Aloha,
Pumpkin1230

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www.jlbmotorsports.com

They dont have them listed on their web site, but they can get them. It took about 2 weeks to receive.

Yea....thats a funny thing about the higher side. I thought I put the springs on wrong when I walked around my car the first time. I'm actually 1/2" higher on the passenger side front and rear!

Thanks for the info Pumpkin, I'm sure I will have other questions.

Lets see the pics Big Brother, the pic you sent yesterday looked sic!

I just finished this up today. Wasn't all the bad really. Did it all on my own. Pretty stoked about the ride. I was on DF 210's and TRD struts, and the ride was a little on the rough side. The Ksports ride very nice! Thanks to Pumpkin for all the setup details.

I will post up some pictures later today.


Hey Bob0Box....whats up brother! That pic was from my phone, not sure how much you could make out. I will email you some of the pics.

Here they are. I know...the Tanabe sticker is coming off. I had to email Ksports for stickers, they didn't come with the coilovers believe it or not. I think I'm going to adjust the back about another 1/2" lower this week.

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w338/cuball142002/IMG_4415.jpg
http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w338/cuball142002/IMG_4416.jpg
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I know this is the best of pictures, but I was focusing on the back after lowering the back another 1/2". I have maybe 1/4" more before the spring perch bottoms out. Oh and BTW, its not the easiest thing to do. Basically you have to disconnect the struts and the swaybar (if you have one) and let the axle drop low enough take the pressure off the spring perch. It just about the same procedure as installation. Kinda of a pain, but at least you have the option. Unless you are on bags...there is no adjustment.

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w338/cuball142002/IMG_4420.jpg

damn cuball! ur car is siiicckkk!!! im lovin the ksport man.. now im thinkin either go for the Ksport or the DF210's lol. but $800 is alot tho :| .

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Looking good cuball. That's what I'm talking about. Glad I could help.

How do you like the ride compared to the springs only set ups you had before? I hope your liking the ksport.

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Yea the ride is sweet! A little better than the previous setup. The only problem I'm running into (which I anticipated with it sitting this low) is rubbing up front. I'm getting a little rub on the plastic lining inside the wheel well. I have trimmed it up some, but if I hit a dip in the street with any speed above 20 mph, it drags. So I'm going to try two things. One I'm going to see what 1/4" higher up front will do, and when I take it in for alignment today I'm going t see about a negative camber set to help pull the wheel in just a little.

To be continued...

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You can actually camber it yourself. The top mounting hole on the strut is grooved so that you can camber it. I too had some rubbing and I cambered it at home and now no rubbing. I can actually do corners well now. LOL.

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serrrrrweeeeeeeeeet cuball!! u on 18s?

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You can actually camber it yourself. The top mounting hole on the strut is grooved so that you can camber it. I too had some rubbing and I cambered it at home and now no rubbing. I can actually do corners well now. LOL.

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Yea...I see that you have some play in the strut for camber. I have adjusted it and it seems ok. But the rub was mostly on the plastic liner insert in the wheel well. I don't want to run too much neg camber, I don't want to go through a set of tires in just a few months. I was told I can run a 0.1 neg camber without causing any unnecessary tire wear, so I'm going to have it setup this way when I get the alignment done next week. And then make mod's to the plastic liner or more if necessary.

serrrrrweeeeeeeeeet cuball!! u on 18s?

Yes...I'm on 18"s

cuball nice looks hows the drive on them ksports?

Hey Max, the ride is sweet! But not like stock, so don't expect too much.

That drop looks tasty.

What width are those wheels i want to go lower possiably with the ksports since my welding skills are lacking for the airride but im worried on rubbing the lip of the wheel well with my 18x8's

The TRD wheels are 18x7. I think Pumpkin is running a 18x7.5, and he is running a negative camber to get them to tuck in. I'm running very little negative camber and have a little rubbing at times. I also raised mine up another 1/4", it helped a lot with the rubbing. Here are the latest pics.

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w338/cuball142002/IMG_6316.jpg
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http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w338/cuball142002/IMG_6314.jpg

Darn which means i might have some fender rolling and neg camber to setup to go low maybe pull out the wheel liners line on old mini trucks lol

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I'm running 18x8 all around. Here is a some pics with the ksports on mines.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x170/robbiepd808/2008%20Scion%20xD/My%20xD%20pictures/DSC01914.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x170/robbiepd808/2008%20Scion%20xD/My%20xD%20pictures/DSC01927.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x170/robbiepd808/2008%20Scion%20xD/My%20xD%20pictures/DSC02207.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x170/robbiepd808/2008%20Scion%20xD/My%20xD%20pictures/DSC02203.jpg

And no rubbing at all.......

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Ah my bad...I'm running 18x7.5 on the TRD's.

I had the front end aligned this week. Running 1.0 negative camber up front, but I'm about 1/2 higher than Pumpkin...no rubbing. I was told by the guy who did my alignment that you can get up to 3.0 negative camber but you will see bad tire wear.

So it all depends on what your preference is. My car is a daily commuter and I put 80 miles a day on it, so tire wear is important.

:bow: Thats one of the sickest xd i have seen.Nice job

:bow: Thats one of the sickest xd i have seen.Nice job

Whats up daveyg!

Thanks bro, good to see you on the forum. Pumpkin and I are proud Ksport owners. Go team Ksports!

Ah my bad...I'm running 18x7.5 on the TRD's.

I had the front end aligned this week. Running 1.0 negative camber up front, but I'm about 1/2 higher than Pumpkin...no rubbing. I was told by the guy who did my alignment that you can get up to 3.0 negative camber but you will see bad tire wear.

So it all depends on what your preference is. My car is a daily commuter and I put 80 miles a day on it, so tire wear is important.

-3 camber doesnt cause that bad of tire wear... camber alone is not the culprit... its the combination of camber and toe... if you have camber and bad toe in / out you will see redicoulus camber wear... i have had -4.5 camber on my xb and getting about 8-9 thousand miles of of the tires... but its because the toe spec is as close to stock as we could get it... im not going to say that running camber doesnt wear your tires out faster... but not the extent that everyone thinks it will... if you think about it bmw have stock -3 camber and thats from the factory... so why would bmw knowingly make their cars have bad tire wear... ? they wouldnt... even the rear of the xd has -1.5 degrees of camber... just the toe is set int he rear so it wont be out of whack

Ah my bad...I'm running 18x7.5 on the TRD's.

I had the front end aligned this week. Running 1.0 negative camber up front, but I'm about 1/2 higher than Pumpkin...no rubbing. I was told by the guy who did my alignment that you can get up to 3.0 negative camber but you will see bad tire wear.

So it all depends on what your preference is. My car is a daily commuter and I put 80 miles a day on it, so tire wear is important.

-3 camber doesnt cause that bad of tire wear... camber alone is not the culprit... its the combination of camber and toe... if you have camber and bad toe in / out you will see redicoulus camber wear... i have had -4.5 camber on my xb and getting about 8-9 thousand miles of of the tires... but its because the toe spec is as close to stock as we could get it... im not going to say that running camber doesnt wear your tires out faster... but not the extent that everyone thinks it will... if you think about it bmw have stock -3 camber and thats from the factory... so why would bmw knowingly make their cars have bad tire wear... ? they wouldnt... even the rear of the xd has -1.5 degrees of camber... just the toe is set int he rear so it wont be out of whack


Good info. I'm just going by what the alignment guy told me. 8-9 thousand miles? Wow...that isn't very good. I have 20 thousand on my Proxies and I have at least 10 thousand more. At almost $200 a tire I would expect at least 30 thousand...but it depends on the compound and how you drive.

PUMPKIN1230, do you rub and did you take off any of the rings in the rear?? Car looks sick!

Ah my bad...I'm running 18x7.5 on the TRD's.

I had the front end aligned this week. Running 1.0 negative camber up front, but I'm about 1/2 higher than Pumpkin...no rubbing. I was told by the guy who did my alignment that you can get up to 3.0 negative camber but you will see bad tire wear.

So it all depends on what your preference is. My car is a daily commuter and I put 80 miles a day on it, so tire wear is important.

-3 camber doesnt cause that bad of tire wear... camber alone is not the culprit... its the combination of camber and toe... if you have camber and bad toe in / out you will see redicoulus camber wear... i have had -4.5 camber on my xb and getting about 8-9 thousand miles of of the tires... but its because the toe spec is as close to stock as we could get it... im not going to say that running camber doesnt wear your tires out faster... but not the extent that everyone thinks it will... if you think about it bmw have stock -3 camber and thats from the factory... so why would bmw knowingly make their cars have bad tire wear... ? they wouldnt... even the rear of the xd has -1.5 degrees of camber... just the toe is set int he rear so it wont be out of whack


Good info. I'm just going by what the alignment guy told me. 8-9 thousand miles? Wow...that isn't very good. I have 20 thousand on my Proxies and I have at least 10 thousand more. At almost $200 a tire I would expect at least 30 thousand...but it depends on the compound and how you drive.

yah could have gotten alot more.. i mean i didnt have to replace them at 9 thousand but i run a staggared wheel so i can rotate them unless i want to take them off the rim and have them re-mounted its alot easier if you are not running staggared wheels you can rotate them and get alot more life out of tires... but yah camber does increase wear but but toe is the killer