for a while i was dead set on buying an 09 volkswagen rabbit.. but at the same time, i wasnt REALLY sure i wanted one..

now i wanted to know if i should get a tC or a Rabbit (i love coups)

oh, and i did do my fill of research on these and a number of other cars, and currently, this is what it had come down to.

thanks scion life!

right now if i would have money i would go for the genesis coupe.. the turbo one... its a little bit more than the tc but u get much more. and i just seen a few one with nice wheels.omg i want one

right now if i would have money i would go for the genesis coupe.. the turbo one... its a little bit more than the tc but u get much more. and i just seen a few one with nice wheels.omg i want one

X2..

go test drive both, i wouldnt mind a rabbit. the genesis coupe is ugly as sin. another tiburon.

If someone didn't crush the face of the Genesis, it would be OK. It might end up being the next "tuner" car... but damn, it is NOT a looker.

You'll really just have to test drive them both and see what you like.

go test drive both, i wouldnt mind a rabbit. the genesis coupe is ugly as sin. another tiburon.
x2 people always say the srt-4 is just a neon. well the genesis is still just a Hyundai. tc is a great car. easy to work on and easy to modify. can do virtually anything to it and its nondestructive. had mine for almost 3 years and i love it.

go test drive both, i wouldnt mind a rabbit. the genesis coupe is ugly as sin. another tiburon.

x2.

Get a GTI.

i almost got one last week....

^^^ Bad los bad! xPPP

hahaha.....

hey hey hey....i explained my story to you....

well i guess i should elaborate a bit more on my previous statement lol
what are your intentions for this car and where do you live.

if you wanna go fast i don't suggest the tC unless you plan on sinking some money in and boosting it. at that point its still not the best option but it isnt bad however stock the tC is not fast. but it is a bit faster then the rabbit.

if your looking for a daily driver then the tC is a great dependable car if you don't mind a few rattles here and there. the rabbit will be more solid then the tC when it comes to things like that. however when it comes to dependability the tC wins hands down.

if you live in a warm climate i would suggest the 2.0t genesis its a great car don't listen to the naysayers. it has a engine that's basically brothers with the engine that's in the EVO so the tuning ability is going to be far greater out of the box then a tC or rabbit... or almost any other car in its price range.

I personally think the Genesis coupe is pretty sweet. The tC is a nice car and all but If you are looking for performance it is not the car you want to get unless you are willing to drop alot of money into. If I was buying a car now I would choose the Genesis Coupe over the tC probably. 6 speed tranny, LSD, Turbo, RWD. And if anyone wants to get on the quality of the car and play "its a hyundai" card. Hyundais warranty is 10 year 100k miles. I sat in one at a local dealership and it is much nicer then the tC on the inside and the outside of the car is pretty sexy. Do yourself a favor and go down to the Hyundai dealer and check it out. It is a sweet car. There are a million tC's on the road. I can make a 2 min trip to the store and see about 5 or 6 tC's. You wont be able to say that about the Genesis Coupe for a while at least.

http://jalopnik.com/5151658/hyundai-genesis-coupe-r+spec-live
IDK how people can say that car is not sexy.

And another thing, you asked your question on a Scion forum so you are going to get biased answers towards the tC just as if you were to go on the VW forum and ask the same question.

I would go with the Genesis coupe if I were you and forget about both the tC and the Rabbit.

The tC is a good car, it has alot for the money. Downside is performance sucks and you have got to drop alot of money into it for it to be fast and handle well. Along with it is FWD which sucks. So if you ever do put power into it, you can forget about getting much traction through first or sec gear. And torque steers a B****. No 6 speed tranny, and when you cruise on the highway at 70 or 75 you feel like you need to shift into another gear but there is none. And since your RPMs are up you dont get the best gas mileage, though the tC does get decent MPG but could get better with a 6th gear. tC's are also a dime a dozen. There are so many of these car son the road its not even funny. Its almost liek the new honda civic to where everyone and their mom has one. It doesnt matter how much you mod yours either, Ive came to find out its still a tC.

Rabbit: I personally have never driven one or rode in one but my sister has a VW beatle and that thing is falling apart at 60k miles. Shes had so many problems with that thing its not even funny. I have other friends also who own VW's and the same thing happens to them. Once you reach about 60k miles the car starts to fall apart. And when they break they are expensive to fix. I used to want a R32 but as ive seen all the problems VW has and how expensive they are to fix I dont think I will ever own one.


Genesis Coupe > tC > VW Rabbit

I would even get a New Civic SI over the tC now.

Really like the Gti, si, or used car rsx or anything type-s. my sister just got a civic it's well put together nicer than my tc. Tc is a good first car for the price but I'm sick of mine. Or just hold the tc untill they make the toyobaru. Trade in hopefully it doesn't dissapoint.

I would even get a New Civic SI over the tC now.

x2. I always hated the Si, but after finally driving one, I've completely changed my perspective over the car. It's slow as balls, but the car is built so much better than the tC.

Jon....

idk about that....

Too bad the new si looks like crap.

hahaha.....

the genesis is either a hate or love kinda car lol i think its dead sexy. then some of us think its butt ugly. its gonna be your car. test drive some see what you like.

yes drive them....
see what you can afford...
and go from there....

and although the idea and what not of the genesis is alright...at the end of the day its still a hyundai

Some info for those that are suggesting the Genesis Coupe;

Power: 210 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 223 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm
Displacement: 2.0 liters
Weight: 3380 lbs
Weight distribution (percent, front/rear): 53.8/46.2
0-60 mph: 7.0 sec
0-100 mph: 17.7 sec
0-110 mph: 23.0 sec
0-120 mph: 28.4 sec
0-130 mph: 35.8 sec
1/4 mile pass: 15.4 sec @ 93 mph

Above numbers are for the 2.0t Track model, as tested by Automobile magazine. Checking Hyundai's website, I see the msrp is $26,750! While the base model is "only" $22,000, you don't get a LSD, brembos, etc.

They also had the following comments about the 2.0t Track model;
"The 2.0T is tuned for lots of muscle in the low-rpm, daily-driving range, but it runs out of thrust quickly as the tach climbs past 4000 rpm. Worse, without balance shafts, the engine practically begs you to short-shift it, due to deafening boominess and vibrations severe enough to rattle the dashboard. Unfortunately, even the Track chassis plows resolutely, a situation not helped by the staggered wheels and tires. On smooth pavement, neither abrupt turn-in nor trailing throttle will coax the coupe's tail out, although midcorner bumps will throw the car sideways..."

They did seem to like the 3.8 Track model, but at $31,000 it should be decent.

looks to me like the 2.0t base isn't much better than a tC, it's fat (~300 more pounds), slow (only ~.4sec better 0-60), and costs several thousand more. :eyebrow:

Exactly. It's still a Hyundai. People don't understand that. It looks great on paper, but in reality, it's a piece of trash.

And at $31,000, it offers terrible performance. A Mustang GT will decimate the Genesis, and the new Camaro SS (supposedly starting at $30,995) will offer 120 more HP and will weigh the same as the V6 Genesis.
Even the new WRX is a MUCH better buy than the Genesis (both 2.0t and 3.8 models). It offers 60 more hp and 100 less pounds than the 2.0t and AWD, or 40 less hp and 500 less pounds than the V6. In terms of power-to-weight, the 3.8V6 is barely 'faster' than the WRX, which is $6,000 less.

They tried to offer BMW-like refinement, with 350z-like track performance, Toyota-like reliability, and G35-like looks for an entry-level price. The results were atrocious.

^ thank you

If the 2.0t Genesis started at $18,000 and the V6 started at $23,000, THEN it would be worth it.

honestly i know what your saying but......

no .... its still a hyundai

No, I mean the exact same car they're offering for $25,000...the same ____tyness...it would be a better buy if it was only $18,000. Honestly, the Civic Si is STILL a better buy than the new Genesis, in terms of bang for your buck. I'll take the more refined, lighter, LSD-equipped FWD car over the poorly built, overweight, LSD-less RWD car anyday.

^ I'll agree with that on all points.

It's a good concept and I was excited a few months ago, but now that it's here, it seems the Genesis coupe isn't near what one might have hoped it would be.

thanks for all the replies, and to answer some questions,

-i live in las vegas
-im seventeen
-my current car is a 2k celica gt(auto)
-whatever my next car may be, i know it HAS to be manual
-i dont have that high of a paying job, only 10.50 an hour
-i can drive stick.. decently of course. i kinda plan on using my next car to get used to driving manual

anyway, thanks for giving your opinions, and yes, i kinda do want a fast car, but still at a low price and i found that both of my choices, the VW rabbit and Scion tc would be pretty good

go test drive both, i wouldnt mind a rabbit. the genesis coupe is ugly as sin. another tiburon.

LOOOOOOl!!! yes... OF COURSE!!!!!!!!

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/bk_blue2.jpg

ugly as sin.. right? i wish my car would look like that.
i dont even care if this car would be lada or trabant or kia or whatever i would rock it!!!!!

the only reason i dont trade my car because i cant afford it.

and btw i dont care about the base model. 2.0T track is really good.
and 220 hp is moooore than enough. u guys should see some hachiroku with like 120 hp and they drift around really happy.

this is one ugly car......

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/dsc04621.jpg

:rofl:

thanks for all the replies, and to answer some questions,

-i live in las vegas
-im seventeen
-my current car is a 2k celica gt(auto)
-whatever my next car may be, i know it HAS to be manual
-i dont have that high of a paying job, only 10.50 an hour
-i can drive stick.. decently of course. i kinda plan on using my next car to get used to driving manual

anyway, thanks for giving your opinions, and yes, i kinda do want a fast car, but still at a low price and i found that both of my choices, the VW rabbit and Scion tc would be pretty good

since you don't make much i assume you will be buying a slightly used car?
ether way one thing to take into consideration is that the tC has a HUGE aftermarket compared to most other sport compacts including the rabbit. that means cheaper and more available parts. its just something to keep in mind if you do intend to mod your car.

i think the genesis coupe is a bad-___ looking car and it comes with a 2.0t as their lowest model? thats pretty good.

i mean the only downfall to the car is that its a hyundai (maybe bad build quality) and it weighs alot but i have to admit that the car looks really good and the specs on the sheet is pretty impressive.

id rock one. besides, if you debadge it, chicks wont even know its a hyundai. they'll just think you have a sexy looking car and want to get in bed with you right away.

^x2

and to op, get the tc :D u can come to our thursday night meets at sonics infront of palms casino hotel! i just moved las vegas for UNLV and if u want some info with fixing up n what to get on ur tc *if u do get one* i can help you out :D

go test drive both, i wouldnt mind a rabbit. the genesis coupe is ugly as sin. another tiburon.

LOOOOOOl!!! yes... OF COURSE!!!!!!!!

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/bk_blue2.jpg

ugly as sin.. right? i wish my car would look like that.
i dont even care if this car would be lada or trabant or kia or whatever i would rock it!!!!!

the only reason i dont trade my car because i cant afford it.

and btw i dont care about the base model. 2.0T track is really good.
and 220 hp is moooore than enough. u guys should see some hachiroku with like 120 hp and they drift around really happy.
yet under all that, its still a tiburon. hey if you like it, good for you, go get one. personally, its still ugly.

I personally got a tC because of the price tag andI wanted something to work on. If you like working on your car and doing mods and upgrades then the tC is a great option.

I'm happy I got one because its like the first car I've really done all the work myself and It's my first brand new car. Once I get it paid off I'll more than likely buy a new car that's a lil more higher end that doesn't need much work.

The tC just has been a great car to me. I've never had problems with and because theres so much aftermarket stuff for it I've got to learn how to do mods I normally wouldn't attempt.

I guess just decide how much you wanna spend and what you wanna be able to do with it or what you expect to get outta it.

At your age and income tho I'm definitely recommending the tC