man i have search this site over and over. but now i am confused. i am looking for performance but not a lot of noise. 5zigen,TRD,JIC etc. i realize these are just axle back. so could i go to a muffler shop and get them to make them catback systems. if so would it help the tq

How about ApexI? Not sure they have anything for the Scion's yet though. But I do recall that ApexI sometimes makes a full exhuast system that can be had with a silencer. Email them.

got one right here for ya http://www.precisionmuffler.com/id22.htm Just scroll down to the axel back muffler and enjoy. :D

How about ApexI? Not sure they have anything for the Scion's yet though. But I do recall that ApexI sometimes makes a full exhuast system that can be had with a silencer. Email them.

I dont believe they have anything for our boxes. They do make universal mufflers however, and you can add on the silencer if you want, but that totally restricts flow.

If you want lest noise, look for resinators.

i'm not retarded but how the funk do i use a resinator does it work with a muffler (1+1) or is it a type of muffler?

stylis what kind of muffler is that and how much is shipping to nc. also i mean not to take business from you but cant i get like a 5zigen axle back and take it to the muffler shop and get them to make a manni back system. if so can you hook a brotha up with something like that.

if you are looking for performance with not a lot of noise then go with magnaflow. they will have a full cat-back system.

Hey just a quick question. How bigs the tip? How much horsepower is expected from it? Also do you have any pics of it on a scion? Thanks, Mike

shipping to NC is going to be 24 bucks and the Muffler I have there is made to be quiet and adds about 2 HP. Here it is on bBted's ride, he was so ____ed when I had to take it off. :D
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p376d27c46f35f1d943a5fff14e0b91cd/f9df5240.jpg

Right now bBted has a 5Zigen muffler on his ride and my muffler set-up is quieter.

Injen's should be available soon... I beleive sometime in March or first week of April...

how are sebrings? someone is trying to sell me one. it looks good but the sound is too deep?

IMO apexI is good but im not sure i would get it again well for these cars it might sound better but i had a universal on my my HB and damn you could hear it from a mile away literally but i guess it was cause it was s/c so alot more air flow and high rmps = loudness but thats my .02

edited: ok maybe that was a littler to much exageration but you could hear it rom far away no BS and i added a silencer and it brought the noise level down from pass 5K rpms it sounded more funky

I had an Apexi exhaust system on my turbo Eclipse and hated the sound of it. Way too loud with or without that funky silencer. I would never buy one again. It got me my first noise pollution ticket :evil: :evil:

so systems out there are only axle back and won't give the power increase of a cat back, so you might want to look out for those if you are looking power.

I have a manifold back system available for Special order only. But yeah, there is nothing but axel backs from everyone. I have an axel back that is deep and sounds great at high speeds. Let me know if you guys are interested. :D

stylis- i notice the pipe has alot of bends is there anyway you can make it str8er and also what about if a person has anotrher aftermarket exhaust and they want a manifold back with their current exhaust would you do that?

Well, if you are going to lower your car,(We all know you are going to lower your car!) then you need those bends to make sure you don't scrape your axel bar. :shock: Also, I don't understand on how you can make the exhaust pipe more str8er. But I will look into it anyway.

The axel back muffler can work with the manifold back system, BUT the system will be LOUD. So please becareful on your exhaust decisions :D Let me know what guys think 8) Possibly get ready for the El Toro meet :D