Any thoughts?

All depends on what your are trying to achieve and what the car is used for...

not to mention how much money you have...

Where's my turbo guys at??

8)

GO BOOST!!!

i love a turbo but on the scion engine i think a supercharger is going to do the trick

All i care about is top end.

GO BOOST!

I want BOOOOST....all i've ever wanted to hear coming out of my lil box is that blow off valve wooosh :shock:

Uhhhh....whats the difference between NA and bone stock when it comes to talking about forced induction

In a scion, I'm just going n/a.....it's not worth risking the engine with crazy boost, and when am I ever going to race a box on wheels? Unless we're talking about a car that isn't mine...i.e. the dealer car we're throwing a supercharger on tomorrow. Then I say hells yeah!

you guys and your blitz superchargers..... :roll:


just kidding. Tell us how it turns out :lol:

N/a for me i like doing things the old skool way, build the engine from the ground up.

NA for me too...just because I really dont want to deal with the maintenance of forced induction

im leaving mine bone stock just going to fix up the suspension a bit. i want some serious HP and i know i wont get it out of this car so thats why im looking for another mayb a 240 for power and the funess of drifting. this car is just a car to cruise in but thats just me and what im going to do

A correctly done forced induction engine is no more maint. that a high performance N/A engine.

I prefer N/A high performance engines. With programable ECUs (not re-programed) a very hot N/A engine can make great power.
ken

you guys and your blitz superchargers..... :roll:


just kidding. Tell us how it turns out :lol:

Will do! Sorry, I know I'm way too excited about this s/c...I'm like a kid on christmas eve trying to sleep! I can't believe only 1 more day!

hey kids boost all the way and by the way u can squiz crazy boost out of the car bone stock since it has such a low compresion rate to begin with. el prototypes should be coming out with a turbo for the xb soon. i have a turbo xa set up for rally but u guys will never get there. also my car will be turbo in about 6-7 months depends on how much spare time i have to build it so if u got turbo questions ask and ye shal receive.

i love a turbo but on the scion engine i think a supercharger is going to do the trick


My thoughts exactly. The scion needs a little more power to it but turbo is over kill for a box. Just something so the power is there when I needed.

Since when is 10.5 to 1 low compression? :?: [/quote]

want the s/c ....... just cuz i want the most out of what i got ..... and remember "Friends don't let friends drive stock!"

Turbo!! Gimme the high end pizzaz!

I would personally go for the super myself. just because of the extra low end grunt it gives. perfect for city driving when you want to pass that slow moving idiot in front of you. :wink:

Unless it was a TRD installed form of forced-inducition, I'd probably stick to N/A. Some car companies state in the warranty info that if you supercharge/turbocharge your engine, it'll void the entire engine warranty. I'd bet Scions are the same way. And after sinking $15,000+ into an xB, the last thing I want to do is void my brand-new engine's warranty. Just my dos pesos.

N/A for me, saving up for a house. 8) :D ...although an S/C (low end grunt) is very very tempting

Unless it was a TRD installed form of forced-inducition, I'd probably stick to N/A. Some car companies state in the warranty info that if you supercharge/turbocharge your engine, it'll void the entire engine warranty. I'd bet Scions are the same way. And after sinking $15,000+ into an xB, the last thing I want to do is void my brand-new engine's warranty. Just my dos pesos.

The only way a warranty can be voided is if the force induction system is at fault and you installed it yourself or at a NON-Toyota facility installed it. Unless otherwise noted on some disclaimers.

Don't let the dealership say you voided the warranty for having a force induction installed when that system is not at fault. You have federal rights (can't think of the law at the moment.)

....You have federal rights (can't think of the law at the moment.) Magnusson Moss

Yes, the Moss act is a great thing and I am familiar with it.

I just remember when I bought a Ford Focus it stated in the warranty info that I signed that forced induction would void the engine warranty. I purchased an extended warranty thought, and that might have been where it was stated.

The problem is that by adding forced induction, the dealer can say that because of the extra stress put on the engine by the turbo/supercharger that's why part xyz failed. Yes, you can fight it, though (unless it's disclamed that you will void the engine warranty if you have forced induction).

it is going to depend on what your goal is, but for daily driving i think supercharger is better. turbo or all motor would be better for racing.

personnally, if it was going to be a daily driver and needs to be reliable ... I would go with the Supercharger anyday... But if TRD is coming out with the turbo kit from the Vitz like they told me on Wednesday I would definitly pick up a TD turbo kit...

Turbo is the best of both worlds, I would pick Turbo. I like N/A, but bottom line is, you can make more useable power with Forced Induction, period! With S/C you get bottom end response, but you loose in the fuel mileage department. Turbo, generally you get more top end. But, done right you will get almost instant throttle response and, you get to keep your gas mileage as long as you "stay" out of boost. The 4th option should be NOS not stock.

You will only start breaking stuff or become unreliable with either, when you step over that imaginary line of too much. As long as boost is ressonable nothing will break. You start going crazy with the boost, then everything will break.

Hope this helps some of you?

teddy

i don't really see why you'd need more top end power... the car is at 4k rpms when its doing 80mph on the freeway... you'll get a whole 2.5k rpm's more to play with. i'd go with an S/C, but since its TRD turbo, i'd go with it.

when is TRD's turbo coming out anyways?

does any one know when it is coming out and how much it will be thanks

Theres no plans for turbo , a supercharger maybe.

NA for me, even with a turbo an xB/A wouldnt make much power. (Yes it could, but not with an off the shelf kit, and now without more time/money than most people want to commit.)

gotta go Turbo.

the top end power is great.
and if the turbo is small there is virtually no lag.

but...

the supercharger is great for daily driver.

But then again this is an xB. like someone else here said, are you
really going to be racing your box? :crazy:

I just wish the car had the 160hp tC 2.4L. that has a little more ooomph
and passing power. thats all i really need. Im buying the car not for its
balls to the wall power. its roomy reliable and unique.

i dont think the 1.5L motor was made to make huge amounts of power.
even if it holds up to 200hp or so (which i doubt) the engine will be under
alot of stress.

i'd get an xB and save up for an EVO or STi.

then you can look over to the car next to you and :come:

I figure I will keep mine naturally aspirated. I will be getting a 76 Monte Carlo sometime in the Future so I will fix that up for speed. THe Xb will be my travelling beat box and also my daily driver.

i would go with all motor anyday

I think I might go with a supercharger........

hey kids boost all the way and by the way u can squiz crazy boost out of the car bone stock since it has such a low compresion rate to begin with. el prototypes should be coming out with a turbo for the xb soon. i have a turbo xa set up for rally but u guys will never get there. also my car will be turbo in about 6-7 months depends on how much spare time i have to build it so if u got turbo questions ask and ye shal receive.


hey man, these motors bone stock bust on anything over 7lbs and the compression isnt low at all