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TheKnown
01-10-2005, 07:21 PM
i hear all this talk of turbo tc's but nobodys posting personal accounts of owning one of them. im extremely interested in turboing my tC but am not familiar with tuning at all. i would be looking for information about price after not only the turbo kit, but the total amount of work that needs to be done to support a turbo comfortably and the cost this intails. Also, my friend has an M3 running 8psi on stock internals.... what could the tC run safely on stock internals and the horsepower it expects to put out. anyone with a turbo setup on scionlife that could help me out id appreciate it.

Tamago
01-10-2005, 07:36 PM
www.scionspeed.com

TheKnown
01-10-2005, 07:40 PM
none of the links on the site work, is this just me?

Tamago
01-10-2005, 08:13 PM
you need flash

Bakaduin
01-10-2005, 08:37 PM
FRom all I've read Id say you could comfortably run on 8-10PSI for a long while.

TheKnown
01-10-2005, 08:39 PM
is that like 2 years or is that like 5 years? I guess what im getting at here is how damaging is a turbo

MonkeyThrowPoop
01-11-2005, 01:11 AM
ahhh love the newer m3 engines, . bmw builds there higher end engines overbuilt x3
so i wouldnt go by what hes got,
ive never turbod a toyota engine but the norm is 6-8 pounds on stock internals without damage

ScionBandit
01-11-2005, 02:05 AM
if u need more info on the ScionSpeed kit
check out www.scionspeed.com

i would not rec. runnin the kit with stock internals, or ne turbo upgrade for that matter

TurboCustomz
01-11-2005, 12:25 PM
I dont see any reason why you couldnt run 8 psi on a good tune for the standard life of these engines. If TRD is has no problems releasing a dealer installed SC that doesnt void the warranty then the engines have to be fairly stout in stock form. A turbo will not damage an engine if it is installed and TUNED properly. It's people that start turning up the boost beyond the practical limits of what they have that blow engines. I see no reason why a tC couldnt hold 7-8psi without incident. Since my turbo kit goes on next week, we shall see.


Charles

ScionBandit
01-11-2005, 04:18 PM
i guess we shall

Joe_Dezod
01-11-2005, 06:20 PM
if u need more info on the ScionSpeed kit
check out www.scionspeed.com or www.tctunerz.com

i would not rec. runnin the kit with stock internals, or ne turbo upgrade for that matter

I ran 2 different turbos on my 2002 Civic EX. At one point running 9psi on stock internals. I did bolt-on upgrades but never touched pistons, rods, etc.

A properly tuned setup with stock higher compression pistions can still make some decent results. Running a smaller turbo at lower boost levels will make for a very quick car on lower speed racing (turbo lag is the enemy, high boost being enemy of internals). My civic had a 9.9:1 Compression ration, daily driven at 7psi for over a year. And I went to the track no less than every other week.

The tC should handle boost even better. With higher displacement and lower compression, you can pull off a slightly larger turbo with a little bit more boost. Once again this comes down to tuning, which many people over look. You don't just add fuel up top to make up for the boost. Retard the ignition timing as necessary. There's just so much to adjust and modify there's almost no limit.

I'm very confident in running 8psi on my tC as a daily driver. The motor is very well built. My only concern is possible headgasket up the road (if I can't pull back my ignition timing a little) and a soon to be replaced clutch.

my 2 cents, sorry just venting...

ScionBandit
01-11-2005, 07:10 PM
vent all u want man...we all have our area of knowledge
one of mine isn't turbo's...i kno somewut about them, not a good chunk though

its good that ppl put in there opinions and thoughts and knowledge of these things, it will help out alot of ppl in the long run..

just from my experience, runnin on stock internals on ne car hasn't paid off---
my entire crew and cars for my company are turbo'd and aren't runnin stock internals..but then again they are all above 330+ hp

just my two cents from wut ive seen---id just play it safe and change them, but u don't have too

and yes..turbo lag is the enemy!!!!

TheKnown
01-11-2005, 11:35 PM
so, the only thing that would need to be swapped would be the piston rods, heads, and a clutch? and what would a package upgrqade like this run price wise?

ScionBandit
01-12-2005, 04:11 AM
depends where u get the parts, who does the work, etc....
ACT and HKS r in works of high performance clutches and lightweight flywheels

i am not sure if they are done yet or not
ive had ACT clutches on my other cars---very good

TheKnown
01-13-2005, 07:10 AM
but im talking overall price costs here.... turbo kit, internals swapped, install, under 4k reasonably?

Joe_Dezod
01-13-2005, 05:41 PM
but im talking overall price costs here.... turbo kit, internals swapped, install, under 4k reasonably?

From my experience you'll be passing that price. It depends on the cost of the kit, and quality of internals.

Labor for all that should be over a grand alone depending on the shop.

Pistons and rods should cost between 600-1100 depending on who you know or what you buy. Every kit is different, hard to perfectly match something.

TheKnown
01-14-2005, 04:33 AM
so basically if im planning on turboing my tC and expect to see gains in the high 200-300 range, im looking at 5k and up. thank you, this answers my question beautifully

91Mike
01-14-2005, 06:13 AM
Definitely above $5k I would think. Changing stock internals would not be necessary below 10psi. Toyota engines are bulletproof. My only concern with putting on a turbo would be how all the computers in the car react to it. I had a bad experience trying to turbocharge an '01 MR2. Tuning that thing with the stock ECU was just impossible. It almost required a full aftermarket EMS to get working properly. I'd like to turbocharge the Scion but until I hear from someone who's done it successfully I'm not even going to think about it.

TheKnown
01-14-2005, 06:22 AM
i guess my best chance here would be to sit back and learn from others experiences

djaaronp
01-17-2005, 06:46 PM
i guess my best chance here would be to sit back and learn from others experiences

thats what i plan on doing.

i'm taking my tax return check and sticking it in a safe place and waiting until probably this time next year to even think about dropping a TC on my tC. :)

Mediocre_Generica
01-17-2005, 10:30 PM
I'm thrilled that people are getting this much power at relativly low boost settings.

DouBLeJ16
01-18-2005, 07:35 AM
running a turbo upto about 10-12PSI isn't going to cause any problems as long as it's setup properly and you have enough fuel/air to stay up with it.

TheKnown
01-18-2005, 07:59 AM
explain that to me

Unreelaznguy
01-18-2005, 08:03 AM
so basically if im planning on turboing my tC and expect to see gains in the high 200-300 range, im looking at 5k and up. thank you, this answers my question beautifully

Go and check out SSR-Engineering (http://ssr-engineering.com/). They are comming out wih 2 different kits for the tC. Yes, they don't have any pre-lim info on their kit, but when i last talkd to them stage 1 is under 4k and Stage 2 is 5k. Your looking @ 250 WHP to 300 WHP of HP with the kits... (note: the numbers may be slightly off)

TheKnown
01-18-2005, 08:38 AM
they dont have any info on the tc kit that i could find

taquito
01-21-2005, 09:32 PM
I ran 9Psi for about a month and the car held up quite nicely. I am now running 5Psi and I am planning on staying at 5. I still get a great boost and I am not really looking to stress out my engine too much but for the record 9Psi was nice and it had a HUGE pick up on high end. I was able to go from 50MPH to 110 in seconds about 4 or 5 to be exact. It was cool if you want to some details on a kit or want to contact the shop that did my kit call Bob at 818 994 7087 pe@ce.

I have a t3 t4 set-up :bow: