EDIT: Looks like the general idea here is that we should just make a scubatank portion replacement. Sounds good. Have fun vendors! :)

Who's interested in a TRUE full exhaust? What I mean by this is an exhaust that comes as one system with the following:

S-Pipe (with a place for a CEL Eliminator to go on for those that run an aftermarket header)
Catalytic Converter/Resonator replacement (preferably with another catalytic converter and a resonator/muffler that does a decent job of making the car quiet)
Midpipe
Axle-back (most likely will need a pretty big muffler here, like an oval or a large diameter round one to help the middle one out so the car isn't too ricey)

I'm pretty sure it's troublesome to buy the S-Pipe and all that other stuff off a bunch of different places due to shipping costs, and of course, some people want a true bolt on solution that also replaces the middle section. Also, there are just some people who don't want to go to a muffler/exhaust shop or don't have a decent reputable one nearby.

The reason I bring this up is because most of the replacements just aren't proper for this car. The CXRacing Exhaust is a full replacement, but it's 3 inches and is of questionable quality (fitment and other stuff). The mufflers that are on it aren't even sufficient enough to make it remotely quiet and they are probably just pure glasspacks (without any stainless steel mesh around the perforated cores to protect the fiberglass) which make the durability questionable. The same goes for all those other eBay "Catbacks". Other than eBay and CXR, there are no full exhausts.

It should probably be 2.25 or 2.5 inch piping, and of course, 304 stainless steel, but maybe there should be an option for aluminized steel piping for those that don't live in the "rust belt" and don't need to worry so much about rust. It would be much cheaper (for those on a budget or just for those cheap xB2 owners) and still would last fine as long as the aluminized coating was thick enough (or you could always paint it. Yes, I know exhausts rust inside out, but good high temperature paint can help a little for outside scratches).

So, is anyone interested in a system? I think this topic can show some vendors that there is interest (well...if there is interest). Just post up if you care or are interested.

Hey bro, Im with you. :clap:


I have the Tsudo Dual exhaust and just love it, but wish they had put there heads togeather and make sure they built a kit that can work with the Five axis lip kit and other dual cut out rear lips. I also want a cat delete pipe but cant find one cause no one sells it unless you buy the whole kit from CX or Ebay kits. and now i wanna get the axis lip kit or bomex and have to spend time and maybe even money to get it to work. And i cant see spending $350 + on the borla kit that's just pipes.


I wanna see a company make a Full system Dual and single that's full header back and will work with the dual lip kits on the market. Is that too much to ask!!!! :doh:

I wanna see a company make a Full system Dual and single that's full header back and will work with the dual lip kits on the market. Is that too much to ask!!!! :doh:
Yes, it is too much to ask Drew. Sorry, just answering your question.

I wanna see a company make a Full system Dual and single that's full header back and will work with the dual lip kits on the market. Is that too much to ask!!!! :doh:
Yes, it is too much to ask Drew. Sorry, just answering your question.


Well as True as that sound's, Im still gonna have hope that someday a company will get it right. :pray:

I wanna see a company make a Full system Dual and single that's full header back and will work with the dual lip kits on the market. Is that too much to ask!!!! :doh:
Yes, it is too much to ask Drew. Sorry, just answering your question.

That's a little too much to ask. :)

I wanna see a company make a Full system Dual and single that's full header back and will work with the dual lip kits on the market. Is that too much to ask!!!! :doh:
Yes, it is too much to ask Drew. Sorry, just answering your question.

That's a little too much to ask. :)


Well i cant see why, Borla built an Exhaust and it works with both Bomex and fives axis. My thing is to pay 350 for just axle back pipes def not. But if a company take's specs of the borla than bam!! it can happen!! Im gonna talk to local exhaust shops and come up with my idea.

Your idea is more of a custom application. Mine is simply mimicing the stock exhaust, but with different mufflers. That is why your idea should be done by an exhaust shop :P

Hey bro, Im with you. :clap:


I have the Tsudo Dual exhaust and just love it, but wish they had put there heads togeather and make sure they built a kit that can work with the Five axis lip kit and other dual cut out rear lips.

I have the Tsudo Dual exhaust , and it works fine with the Five axis lip kit . Just had to lower it slightly.

Hey bro, Im with you. :clap:


I have the Tsudo Dual exhaust and just love it, but wish they had put there heads togeather and make sure they built a kit that can work with the Five axis lip kit and other dual cut out rear lips.

I have the Tsudo Dual exhaust , and it works fine with the Five axis lip kit . Just had to lower it slightly.


Reali? Oh man I kept hearing that it does not fit and will need major modding to get it done. Do you happen to have a pic of it? Please?

Your idea is more of a custom application. Mine is simply mimicing the stock exhaust, but with different mufflers. That is why your idea should be done by an exhaust shop :P


Your correct, I def would love to see a Exhuast come out that can mimic the stock but allow better Flow and Exhaust tone.

my custom exhaust mimics the stock exhaust exactly except 2.5" pipeing and a magnaflow resonator in the place of the scuba. o and my pipeing connects to the HKS wagon exhaust tip :)

my custom exhaust mimics the stock exhaust exactly except 2.5" pipeing and a magnaflow resonator in the place of the scuba. o and my pipeing connects to the HKS wagon exhaust tip :)

Well this topic is supposed to find out if people are interested in a full exhaust or not, so we'll see what happens.

im just saying it would be cheaper to get a custom one... but if there was a full exhaust out i would of done that instead of custom... i just couldnt pass up paying only $148.56 for a resonator back lol

im just saying it would be cheaper to get a custom one... but if there was a full exhaust out i would of done that instead of custom... i just couldnt pass up paying only $148.56 for a resonator back lol

Custom is sometimes not an option.

Anyways, I posted up this topic as I figured some xB2 guys would like to see some more development. Right now it doesn't look like it. Well, that's okay too. The xB2 won't get much aftermarket support if you guys don't do anything about it (IE: Show interest).

this is so true lol ^ and then people complain cause no one makes aftermarket parts for us xb2's...come on peps show some dang interest. this is why i dont even say anything about seeing who would all be interested in aftermarket stuff...

this is so true lol ^ and then people complain cause no one makes aftermarket parts for us xb2's...come on peps show some dang interest. this is why i dont even say anything about seeing who would all be interested in aftermarket stuff...

It was worth a try on my end. I have no problem fabricating my own stuff. I just don't have the time to deal with stuff like this for now because of good old college.

same college is a _____ cause it takes up all my time for installs and parts lol ahhhhhh

I am interested. I think what you outlined is what many of us xB owners are looking for.

I am interested. I think what you outlined is what many of us xB owners are looking for.

Nice. Let's hope some vendors take a look at this topic.

I'm interested, but if I suffecient funds at the time is always questionable. Some times I may have an extra couple hundo, sometimes I won't. :(

I have a lot of "must haves" and "must have nots". Must have is definitely stainless steel. It doesn't have to be polished, but if it's not all that much more, then why not?!? I'm not a fan of fart cans. At all. The HKS hooked up to the TRD replica mid pipe sounds great, but I hate fart cans. The Tanabe axle back looks good, but the fitment looks a little off to me and it appears the tip is just kind of hanging in the middle of nowhere.

I'm picky as all hell, I know. :(

I know everyone is into asthetics here but I think we should just go for an exhaust that is FUNCTIONAL. We want it to last long or be extremely cheap (Long lasting = 304SS, Cheap = Painted Aluminized Steel) and provide better performance than stock while also being quiet. I think being quiet is important cause honestly, louder exhausts usually end up sounding raspy, ricey, and attract cops.

Most of you guys want the car to be louder, but it's so simple to make it louder. It doesn't take any engineering or intelligence to make a car louder. If you want louder, just chop out the resonator/muffler and replace it with a straight pipe or something.

Anyways, as for the tip, it's up to you guys, but I think it should just be a nice clean tip and no fart can. We need less attention from cops anyway, because our cars are very big targets for ticketing :)

I'd be very interested in a header back exhaust that had a large resonator or glasspack in place of the scuba. Just from looking around on here though it really seems duel tips are more popular then the single out systems. If I were to build one it would be 2.5 pipeing, 18" glasspack, to a large transverse mount oval muffler with duel 2.5 or 2.25 outs.

Hmm, it looks like it'll be hard to get a single consensus since so many people care way more about aesthetics then the functional basics...

Yeah there isn't going to be a general consensus on what is wanted. I know I personally want dual tips, and from looking around here the borla/tsudo seem to have gotten the most feedback. I hate fart can style canisters, and think they sound like poop. My whole theory with the glasspack feeding a large oval body muffler would be a free flowing system that didnt sound like a fat kid after eating too much mexican food, Really though if you are trying to bring something to market just find something that has something to offer over the other systems out. Maybe make a nice dual system that doesnt have those crappy canisters on it, or make a cheap performance oriented system that isn't 3in pipe for the majority who havent gone FI.

I say just find someone to make a resonator or glasspack piece to replace the scuba that mounts to the factory exhaust. Everyone wuld be happy

I say just find someone to make a resonator or glasspack piece to replace the scuba that mounts to the factory exhaust. Everyone wuld be happy

This seems to be the solution. Looks like everyone will need to keep shopping for all those random parts :)

The marde must look good. We are building show queens, show queens that go fast for some, but show queens just the same.

If all we wanted was to be fast and cheep this would be an RX7 site.

The marde must look good. We are building show queens, show queens that go fast for some, but show queens just the same.

If all we wanted was to be fast and cheep this would be an RX7 site.

We are all not building show queens.

Also, fast and cheap = RX7? I don't see why you bothered putting something like that in your post. Going fast is NOT cheap for an RX7.

Anyways the topic is pretty much done. The solution is to have a scubatank portion replacement.

yeah rx7 + fast does not equal cheap hahah.

Okay, here is what I want:

-NO DUAL TIPS, PLEASE.
-single tip, no cans, non-angled (boxes dont look good with angled exhausts)
-deep tone, not too quiet or too loud, and of course no rasp
-2.25-2.5 piping, 304ss

Im curious why barely anybody is showing interest, maybe because they got tired of waiting and settled with the existing options?

oh and something like this would be nice :)

http://www.speed-element.com/gallery/sp2-civic_si1.jpg

the tip looks too big though.

I'd like to know how much hp it would add. An axle-back is good for only ~2 whp and a header ~5 whp. I highly doubt that a full exhaust would add more than 5 whp on a NA 2AZFE engine.

Many of us have tsudo duals (other) bolted to the suba, so a complete system may be a hard sell. What will sell is a bolt up suba replacement. It should include a high flow cat and resonator. S pipe with CEL port would be an option or package. I have talked to several fab guys that have taken measurements from my box and think it can be done.
You could run a aftermarket header and still pass smog test. High flow cat would be welded in, resonator bolted for variable db sound level and pitch. Everything in 2.25" dia.

I'd like to know how much hp it would add. An axle-back is good for only ~2 whp and a header ~5 whp. I highly doubt that a full exhaust would add more than 5 whp on a NA 2AZFE engine.

Real world #'s don't really go like that. It's hard to tell how much it will add.

Many of us have tsudo duals (other) bolted to the suba, so a complete system may be a hard sell. What will sell is a bolt up suba replacement. It should include a high flow cat and resonator. S pipe with CEL port would be an option or package. I have talked to several fab guys that have taken measurements from my box and think it can be done.
You could run a aftermarket header and still pass smog test. High flow cat would be welded in, resonator bolted for variable db sound level and pitch. Everything in 2.25" dia.

Agreed. Scubatank replacement seems to be the key. Everything else is just too "varied" to come up with a consensus.

Many of us have tsudo duals (other) bolted to the suba, so a complete system may be a hard sell. What will sell is a bolt up suba replacement. It should include a high flow cat and resonator. S pipe with CEL port would be an option or package. I have talked to several fab guys that have taken measurements from my box and think it can be done.
You could run a aftermarket header and still pass smog test. High flow cat would be welded in, resonator bolted for variable db sound level and pitch. Everything in 2.25" dia.


x2 :clap:

You could run a aftermarket header and still pass smog test.
Not in California. :no: :(

You could run a aftermarket header and still pass smog test.
Not in California. :no: :(

California is a special case :)

go to your local muffler shop they can do all this work my exhaust 3 inch turbo back one resonator 180 bucks

go to your local muffler shop they can do all this work my exhaust 3 inch turbo back one resonator 180 bucks

I'm probably going turbo so this topic doesnt really apply to what I actually want, but some people don't want to go to a shop around their area, or they want an actual exhaust that will keep their car quiet. Who knows...there are some who enjoy having POS straight pipe exhausts or exhausts with crappy resonators that don't do anything to make it quieter.

Anyways, for your case...180 bucks? Is it 304 stainless steel? What type of mufflers are you using?

full stainless but not polished resonator is a magnaflow funny as for the rear section i am adding a magnaflow race series 3 inch core i am not running a tip of a exposed can right behind my bumper so you cant see iit its stealth and all that

Hey cory, YGPM. :)

Hell, maybe even have each individual part for sale, like the Megan stuff for the tC. I know they have the S-pipe, the mid pipe, and the axle back all for sale seperate.
That way people can kind of piece what they want all together.

:D

Hell, maybe even have each individual part for sale, like the Megan stuff for the tC. I know they have the S-pipe, the mid pipe, and the axle back all for sale seperate.
That way people can kind of piece what they want all together.

:D

Well this is already the case for us.

Weapon R S-Pipe, many axlebacks and two catbacks, but no scuba replacement section yet.

the only delete is the cx racing one and a friend has it its good quality

A 3 inch exhaust isn't good for the majority of the xB2 guys and CXRacing probably sells glasspacks as those mufflers, without any stainless steel mesh to protect them so they won't last too long and the exhaust will become very loud.

3in is way overkill on our cars...unless turbo'd of course

they are nice quality lets say my friend has skunk 2 and its lesser quality then the cx racing only slightly different

I agree the quality of everything might be nice, but I still think a muffler that is just a pure glasspack isn't quality cause they won't really last long.

most mufflers are just a glass pack my magnaflow resonator is just a glass pack a big glass pack im thinking about getting the cx racing exhaust and mating it up to my exhaust now

The magnaflow resonators/mufflers have stainless steel mesh surrounding the perforated tube then they have fiberglass packed into it. The mesh protects it from corrosive crap, etc. That is why they last WAY longer than pure glasspacks.

i'd love to see it!!! how about some weapon-r r&d... their header/s pipe are top knotch (even though i'm running strup)... i'd scrap all the stuff under the car if they'd build something!! in fact, i'd buy a header back system from any reputable company... if they'd build one!!! come on aftermarket!!! do it, DO IT!!

bump

I really want an exhaust system that is worth buying

ebay....putting mine on tomorrow...spoke with another that has had it for about 5 months now and dude said its still great

its on! and its awesome!!!

how's the fitment for the ebay version

mine is perfect!!! surprisingly perfect...and it sounds great imo...

Post in a different thread about it. As far as I feel, this thread is dead because we already came to a conclusion that a scuba-tank replacement is best for the majority of you guys.

Almost dead Old. Purchased Hi-flow cat CTO-6905 ($60) and muffler SUM-630802 ($25) from Summit racing. Cat is 14" long, muffler 12" so every thing should fit. Band clamps allow bolt up, but do have to figure out hangers. Goodbye scuba!!!!!!!!!!!

i want a scuba delete!