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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Default Say hello to 299WHP and 295WTQ R.S. 3.0 .8 bar now w/VIDEO !

Hello everyone, just got tuned in Auston at PtoTech performance and here are results.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPqpBTmuDqo

at low setting 6-7 psi 244WHP dont remember tourque
at high setting 0.8 bar 299WHP and 295WTQ.

video of final run will be uploaded later on tonight, i'm on my way back to San Angelo.
and i'll post dyno charts as soon as Jon ( tuner) sends it to me.
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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isnt 0.8 bar around 8 psi?
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gingles
isnt 0.8 bar around 8 psi?
.8 bar= 11.6 psi

must have been a mustang dyno...
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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^ not necessarily.. 300 whp at 11 lbs for a bolt on dezod kit sounds correct.. give or take some based on the tune
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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congrats on the boost. ull have to roll to san antonio sometime so i can see it and ride lol
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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0.8 Bar is like 10.5 psi.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:01 AM
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11.60304
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
11.60304
According to Google it is actually :


Originally Posted by [b
www.google.com[/b]].8 bar = 11.603019 pounds per square inch
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:11 AM
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
11.60304
LMAO hoodie... geee.....that number seems kinda vague..lol....j/k

wish I had the cash to be boosted like that
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:22 AM
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meh, close enough.

guess this websites wrong. lol

http://www.centauro-owners.com/articles/psibar.html
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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its protech in austin right? how is the tune? they tuned w/ fic? I know someone that has his turbo installed on his prelude and tuned there and he wasnt too happy about it, now his motor is messed up and another guys evo8 that they fully built started blowing bad smoke on exhaust so they had it towed back there its around 300miles away from here.. but let us know how your tune is, look at your numbers and see if you think its about right.. its just a heads up but your numbers are decent
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:29 AM
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14.5psi = 1bar... simple math
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
meh, close enough.

guess this websites wrong. lol

http://www.centauro-owners.com/articles/psibar.html
LOL....closer than your average hand granade :D
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:59 AM
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hmm.. Not sure what turbo your running but at 9psi i made 320 whp...

and thats at 11.2 for AFR

Send over your map and ill take a look at it.. I wounder what up with that
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace83
its protech in austin right? how is the tune? they tuned w/ fic? I know someone that has his turbo installed on his prelude and tuned there and he wasnt too happy about it, now his motor is messed up and another guys evo8 that they fully built started blowing bad smoke on exhaust so they had it towed back there its around 300miles away from here.. but let us know how your tune is, look at your numbers and see if you think its about right.. its just a heads up but your numbers are decent
Yes its protech in Austi, the tune is pretty good the only few minor things are is that when i'm cruising in 5th gear and lets say i need to pass someone before AFRs go to 10.5-11.5 it just says rich.

and another one in first gear i dont maybe i didnt floor it enough but AFRs dont seem to go into 12s and lower they stay in low 13s... those are the few things that i need to work out with him.

Overall i'm pretty happy with the tune , the tuner Jon, definately put in time. He fixed vacuum lines on my greddy boost controller because shop that installed it did it incorrectly and he didnt charge me for that.

The car pulls pretty nicely, on low boost according to boost controller and boost gauge its 6 psi ( limited by BC ) and on high setting its actually 9 psi also limited by BC, so maybe they tune was not on 0.8 bar i told him to tune it on 9-10 psi tops, and thats what i assume he did.

After he was done tuning on the dyno, we went to fine tune it on the street and he finished off some things, he also told me if i have any concers i can use logger on the FIC and he showed me what it is and basically told me to send it to him and he will adjust whatever is neede. Overall all in total i'm happy so far. Even on 6 psi i the car pulls nicely all the to the red line in all gears.

The only part is i'm not sure how can i look and compare the numbers ?
i mean its my first boosted car and certainly first with 300WHP car.. I guess the only way to compare would be to actually just go to a dyno shop and dyno it there without tuning.

Also, once i go in boost the AFR's are perfect 10.2-12.5 range.

I paid $350 for everything with no taxes.

He didnt send me dyno charts yet but i will upload my liitle video from my cell phone so you guys can see. Also ALL tuning pulls were made in 4th gear.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 03:26 AM
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10.2 is too rich, a lil adjustment on that maybe needed but as long as you dont stay at that range you should be good.. 12.5 is a bit lean especially in texas weather make sure its not on the higher rpms. But if everything is else is smooth then thats good,you will only need few touch ups on the tune.. and oh are you able to tune by gears? you have the standalone?
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 04:42 AM
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I.stand corrected, it is 11.6 psi. Hope that was not on a dynojet.
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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ghmmm... actually dyno they use i believe is Dynojet.

Ace to better show how AFR's are i will make a video and show you, so you can let me know what its supposed to be at.
No i'm not on standalone, i'm running AEM FIC. What do you mean tune by gears ? ( i'm not sure how its done ) generally anything tuning related i have alot to learn.

Also i noticed one thing, i have 50 trim 48 AR turbo and as far as i know its should hit boost pretty early. Yes is does start spulling around 2500-2800 and at 3000 its spooling pretty loudly, but for example in 2nd gear, if i'm boosting lets say 50% throttle AFR's are at 13's.. and once i floor it then it jumps to 11-11.5 right away is that normal ?
will that 13s hurt the engine anyhow ?

and you said 10.2 is rich and as long as i dont stay there, well in 5th gear for a moment it sayd rich and then when i floor it it starts at 10.2 and goes up and stays around 11-11.5 to 12.0 range something like that...

and what do you mean on higher rpms like how high ? where should that be ?

i think i definately should make a video of each gear pull...
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 06:07 AM
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yeah get some vids, its hard to visualize your tune with just words lol.. and its hard to judge a tune since there are too many things to look at.. about tuning by gear, so far i know only standalone can do that so i thought you got the aem stanalone.. but here's what i think, lower gears usually stays at the lower load area and it hit your max boost later compared to higher gears (but revs faster though) so if your lower boost is tune around 12-13a thats prolly why your afrs are like that.. your afrs doest look too bad though



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