View Full Version : xB owners please reply if [your rear lip has come loose]l


bB384
01-13-2005, 10:06 AM
I own an 2004 TCM xB, this is what happend to me last week.

I was driving to work the other day and I had to drive through a puddle to get onto the freeway, after a mile or two the rear lip came loose, I found out that a few of the plastic clips broke from the force of the rain water kicked up from my wheels and the puddle finished the job to remove the lip. I complained to the dealer about this and the fact that the rear does not have any metal screws like the front lip does, and that should be considered a design flaw, needless to say I'm going to have a meeting with a Toyota Factory rep soon, so if any of you had a similar expirence of the Rear lip coming off or getting loose I could use your help, as this may become a TSB if enough people voice their concern. Please reply, PM me, or email me at bb384@sbcglobal.net

Thanks in advance

hotbox05
01-13-2005, 10:23 AM
This should be covered by warranty , just hope that yer rear lip doesnt have lots of impact marks or they will try to void.

bB384
01-15-2005, 08:58 AM
I have one small scratch but its on the other side of the lip and is irrevalant to the rear lip having plastic clips and the front lip having metal screwes.

firesquare
01-16-2005, 02:30 AM
i noticed a while back but i never mentoned it that the section where the rear lip meets in the middle there was never a clip and after a long drive (NY to RI) my lrear lip almost wanted to flap in the breeze. but long shory short

after i got rear ended the bumper and clips were replaced. just go to the dealer and say the rear lips seem off

since the dealer is givin you crap follow us up with an update when you talk to the scion reps

JdMBboFSD
01-29-2005, 02:00 AM
my rear lip started comin off, so i just got a body kit ..hahah...solved everything....

MRGTHUNT
01-29-2005, 02:25 AM
ill have to check that out.
good lookin.

TheScionicMan
01-29-2005, 04:18 AM
Mine was either missing a clip in the center when I got it or broke soon after. I had to push it in at the center and then I ziptied it until I finally went in for another warranty issue. They replaced the clip, but didnt get it flush quite right... They pulled the center in too much and the middle of each piece kinda pokes out.

firesquare
01-29-2005, 01:10 PM
mine was missing a clip

bB384
01-31-2005, 08:56 AM
Pretty much they don't want to replace the clips/repair/replace the lip. I don't want to deal with them, so I just replaced every damn clip with bolts and washers, so they're on there tight! I recomend doing it if you live in rainy areas. Someday if I ever get free time, and a camera, I'll take my car to my friends shop and do a write up on what clips specifically to replace, I would just replace all of them (12 in total I think). But dont hold your breath on that right up. I barely have time to eat.

bBTOY
01-31-2005, 10:07 AM
Since I have had mine, It has never come loose or off. But I have the problem of the CENTER not matching up.
So I wonder if it came off before or if it could just come from the Factory that way ?
I havent gotten under the car, but I tugged on the lip to see if could straighten it, but it wouldnt move.
Am I able ,maybe, to loosen the clip/screw and Straighten it ( Maybe ) if I got down there :bow: ?
I only Drive them, I dont build them. :crazy:

TheScionicMan
01-31-2005, 06:24 PM
Those aren't put on at the factory, they're either installed at Port or by the dealer, so it'll depend on how much care is used...

Kairoh
02-01-2005, 01:21 AM
I just got my 2005 BSP xB a little over a month ago and already the rear lip is coming loose. I have never hit anything or rubbed it on anything. I have only driven it the snow but not even heavy snow. This is a problem though with new xB's.

02-01-2005, 03:46 AM
Mine came off and was heavily damaged. My dealer didn't want to fix it, apparently our bumpers aren't covered under the "bumper to bumper" warranty.

Anyways, Scion Corp couldnt help because the Regional Rep took the word of the Service Manager that it was user error(I guess you can't drive in the rain with these cars?)

I eventually contacted the GM and he was informed that we've bought numerous cars from his dealership and would love to continue to do so...the service manager called me not 15 minutes later asking what color my car was.

Dont take what they give you, that piece catches water, it's a design flaw.

bB384
02-01-2005, 09:32 AM
Like I said, replacing the lip won't solve the problem, replacing those plastic clips (that the dealer installs) with REAL BOLTS will. The xB's rear lip is only held by plastic clips, so either Toyota/or the dealer has to use bolts instead of clips, or Scion should make mudguards, or make a better wheel well liner to not let water get kicked up to the rear bumper. It doesnt help that the rear bumper is like a foot away from the rear tires either.

Could someone please make this a sticky?

RFX
02-01-2005, 01:01 PM
For my missing plastic clips on the rear underspolier i use thick zip ties. Yeah yeah i know it the cheap way but it works.

dirtysocks
02-01-2005, 07:47 PM
i was leaving a haunted house on halloween and it was a short steep slope and my back bumper scraped and it came loose and i popped it back in and now isnt totally lined up but its hard to tell.

xbox83
02-01-2005, 07:58 PM
PM'd you

uncompiled
02-01-2005, 08:21 PM
Mine split down the seam. The plastic screw came loose, I just poked around and stuck it back together... I figured I'd just get the NKB bumper. ;)

buddhafrogsaypeace
02-01-2005, 09:04 PM
Let me add this to your tale:

The first day after getting my xB, an old lady backed up into the back of our xB in a parking lot. We got a 1/2" beginning of a crack, a few small scuffs, and the right half of the bumper got unhinged. I just popped it back into place and all was fine. Damn frustrated after having the car for one day, but was not going to pay the $500 deductable for the very minor scuff. No dents, etc. If that bumper had been bolted, however, it would've been dented and would've needed to be replaced....

Yes yes.

bBTOY
02-02-2005, 07:54 AM
WOW, :ponder: I wonder if thats true. If Not it sure sounds plausible . Any fix on a Bumper is :money:
I even wonder if we have Stability Control and Traction , because without it Every corner the car made over 7mph , it Flipped Over :rolling:
Well thats Real " LEGO " if you are able to " Snap " the bumper back together. Has Anyone made a " LEGO " xB/bB ? Is there a pic , How did it look ?
It really sucks to get Hit , especially so soon after purchase .
Here is my story. Within 15hrs of getting my xB , I had to go the Market . I parked away from other cars. But it wasnt a car that hit me , it was a Shopping Cart ! :flame: And not only did it HIT and DENT it , But it also SCRAPED it just above the Wheel Well :cry: All I could do was pull out a little bottle of Touch Up paint , and that DID NOT fill in the dent ! :tap:

hotbox05
02-02-2005, 08:05 AM
use a riveter and make the connection between the bumper and lip stronger.

bBTOY
02-02-2005, 08:30 AM
It didnt seperate , it dented the Back Body Panel , just above the Wheel well .

hotbox05
02-02-2005, 09:07 AM
oh i was just stating a fix for problems and such not your exact situation

xdorkx
02-02-2005, 07:08 PM
So how about the front lip? the screw/whatever broke (the plastic part) on the front left lip on my box..i'm sure i could super-glue the plastic or something, but i dont wanna make a mess..this under warranty?

xbox83
02-02-2005, 07:20 PM
I own an 2004 TCM xB, this is what happend to me last week.

I was driving to work the other day and I had to drive through a puddle to get onto the freeway, after a mile or two the rear lip came loose, I found out that a few of the plastic clips broke from the force of the rain water kicked up from my wheels and the puddle finished the job to remove the lip. I complained to the dealer about this and the fact that the rear does not have any metal screws like the front lip does, and that should be considered a design flaw, needless to say I'm going to have a meeting with a Toyota Factory rep soon, so if any of you had a similar expirence of the Rear lip coming off or getting loose I could use your help, as this may become a TSB if enough people voice their concern. Please reply, PM me, or email me at bb384@sbcglobal.net

Thanks in advance

so did you end up taking it to the dealer or what

Saucy_A
02-02-2005, 08:05 PM
picked my xb up yesterday, noticed a weird looking spot on the rear lip... I got under the car to see what the prob was, and sure enough, the plastic clip in the middle isn't clipped, and there's a problem with the driver side clip... the lip is cracked around the area that the clip is supposed to go into... (barely noticeable, but this thing isn't 24 hours mine yet). I'm taking it back on Friday I hope to get it looked at and hopefully replaced. It's kinda crappy that I can't have a new car for a day without it already needing some kind of fix. I really hope the dealership is cooperative.

bB384
02-02-2005, 08:25 PM
I own an 2004 TCM xB, this is what happend to me last week.

I was driving to work the other day and I had to drive through a puddle to get onto the freeway, after a mile or two the rear lip came loose, I found out that a few of the plastic clips broke from the force of the rain water kicked up from my wheels and the puddle finished the job to remove the lip. I complained to the dealer about this and the fact that the rear does not have any metal screws like the front lip does, and that should be considered a design flaw, needless to say I'm going to have a meeting with a Toyota Factory rep soon, so if any of you had a similar expirence of the Rear lip coming off or getting loose I could use your help, as this may become a TSB if enough people voice their concern. Please reply, PM me, or email me at bb384@sbcglobal.net

Thanks in advance



so did you end up taking it to the dealer or what


I've been playing phone tag with them for a while now, problem is they wont return my calls. I get out of work after they close, so I leave messages but they don't return them. So I replaced every clip with a bolt! Scion corp will eventuall hear from me when I get some time to call them.

AK_Rice_Box
02-03-2005, 01:10 PM
i did notice that my rear lip is gettin a bit space from the bumper. i'm thinkin about just takin it to the dealership and have them fix it. i only drove it for a month and a 1/2 before i came out to the desert. i'll finally get home next week and that's when i plan to take my xB back to the dealer.

lilslimshady12
02-06-2005, 03:32 AM
yeah I had that same problem I ran over a piece of tire on the fwy and it took off the bottom lip of the left bumper. could never pick it up though cuz if the fwy always being busy