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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Just received my hitch today from www.hitch-web.com and the quality is very nice and had some real nice powder coating on it. I will bolt it on tonight and see how it fits.
I am also going to pick up my new trailer Saturday for my ski then paint the trailer to match the TCM box.

Will post pic's when its all done.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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how heavy is your ski ?
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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The ski weight is right at 230 LBS and the trailer is 200.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Install went well, took about 20 minutes by myself. Had to jack up the pack of the car and drop muffler down to get the hitch over it but only had to remove one rubber mount from muffler.

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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Pic PLEASE.. I've been wanting one myself, and I'm curious as to how it looks installed.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Did you go with the Curt or Dalan hitch? Your link showed (2) different ones.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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I used the curt hitch, The only part of the hitch you can see is the receiver section everything else is behind the body panel. the receiver is about a 1/2" below the panel, just the 1 1/4" square receiver is all you see and it is flush with the body panel.

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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Did you say you are instaling a hitch to your Box?

Good luck with that. I heard of this dude in Washington, did that. Went down the road, and bye bye rear end. The Box is not meant to tow anything. Thus, no hitch.

Plus the power of a Box is not nearly enough to haul a trailer and what you are putting on a trailer.

Anyway, good luck. Hope it works out for you. Let us know what happend.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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does everyone realize that the xb is a 5 passanger vehical. if it is capable of five passangers then it is plenty enough powerful and capable of towing a light load. this is not rocket science.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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does everyone realize that the xb is a 5 passanger vehical. if it is capable of five passangers then it is plenty enough powerful and capable of towing a light load. this is not rocket science.
i agree..

5 passengers at 150 (at least) each..

5x 150 750lbs

The ski weight is right at 230 LBS and the trailer is 200.

230+ 200= 430lbs

yep it should be fine.

hey my fist math problem since H.S.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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does everyone realize that the xb is a 5 passanger vehical. if it is capable of five passangers then it is plenty enough powerful and capable of towing a light load. this is not rocket science.
Five passengers ride over the axles and frame. Towing puts stress on one area. Not the same calculations. That is, weight bearing capacity not equal to towing capacity.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by scion1616
does everyone realize that the xb is a 5 passanger vehical. if it is capable of five passangers then it is plenty enough powerful and capable of towing a light load. this is not rocket science.
Yes it is rocket science, but of another nature...Automotive science, to be precise. In simplest of terms, It's not just the go power, but the stop power.

IF the TOYOTA engineers thought it could/would tow, they would have said so. However, in their esteemed opinion, they though best to warn off the consumers in the manual that comes with the Box.

They might know a thing or two more then the average person when it comes to this car.

Like I said before, good luck.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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since my math problems looks cool..ill just add this note..

after reading the last 2 posts i change my train of thought..
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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If you read the manual that comes with the xb, the maintenance schedule includes services that are required if you tow anything. I know they recommend that you don't tow but they also know that people will so they included the service instructions.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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i give up just tow the damn jetski. it is no diferent then all the cars i see with ski behind them. but whatever they say. i pulled a ski with a 240sx for over 2 years and not one problem. but i guess it was designed for towing huh.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by scion1616
i give up just tow the damn jetski. it is no diferent then all the cars i see with ski behind them. but whatever they say. i pulled a ski with a 240sx for over 2 years and not one problem. but i guess it was designed for towing huh.
Yep (I guess)
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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dude(s) we need to update the forum rules to include "do not query about towing with the xB". Every thread turns into hate. HATE.

BoxCar, unless you know the guy who broke his box, I wouldn't believe what you heard. ;-) Once there was **** in egg drop soup.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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The folks at Toyota who decided that the Xb could not tow anything were not engineers.
That call was made by attorneys more concerned about product liability than the actual
physics involved in towing.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximuS
The folks at Toyota who decided that the Xb could not tow anything were not engineers.
That call was made by attorneys more concerned about product liability than the actual
physics involved in towing.
This is my theory as well. Over in Europe and Japan I belive people to light towing with their Echo/Ist/bB but they are smart enough to know the limitations of the vehicle and will accept fault if they beak the car.

Here in America we are sue happy. "Blame the other guy" or "It's not my fault" should be the slogan on our money, not "e plurabus unum."

If the xB was given a towing capacity of say 1000 lbs many people would do light towing with the vehicle. However, there would be people out there trying to tow 2, 3, or 4,000 lbs with the car because they were told the xB can tow stuff.

They would then bring their broken down xB to the dealer and say "I was towing and it broke." The dealer would ask them what they were towing and how much it weighed and they would lie out their teeth about it. Then when their waranty claim was denied they would start pointing fingers and try suing the dealer or Toyota of America.

Unfortunately it is the few who want to line their pockets for being idiots that ruin it for the rest of us.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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