Im lookin to get a header either DC Sports or DME...

I heard the DC sport will eventually rust..

but on the other hand the DME i heard as the best power gains im wondering how much more then the dc sport if anyone knows....we all know any header will be better then stock..

trying to find a dyno chart but DME heard has power through out the power band while dc sports gains power above 4k rpm...

whatdo you gies think

Best power gains are from WeaponR/MMW or maybe the Tsudo since it's the same thing - both 4-2-1 design.

Between those two, they're probably about the same since the design is basically the same from what I've seen. Both just plain 4-1.

Oh, relevant thread:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=208468

4-2-1 is for and automatic 4-1 is for maunal from what i hear...awell if somebody wants to lock this thread go ahead...the search thing is really any good unless you use certain words which you may need to think for about 5 mins or so

Not sure where you heard that, but that's definitely not true. The transmission is irrelevant.

My understanding is that 4-2-1 gives a bit more low end power, where the 4-1 might be more of a high end power adder.

its all over the internet when you buy a header they wil say 4-1 is made for the manually cause we shift at a higher rpm rather then and automatic the 4-2-1 is made for them cause it doesnt have to shift higher so its better for lower end do i make sesne something along those line.....

you can use MMR or Tsudo on a stick with same gains as on auto.

but to the original question,both headers in time will rust over if not cleaned yearly,steel wool and polish save every fall.DME sits a littel closer to the block than the DC does,DC and other sit closer tothe radiator,but both are still very close.

I like the DME a lot,almost got it but soem extra money came through and I got MMR.....