Does any one have dyno on these 3 intakes AEM Injen K&N which ones gives you the most horse power to the wheels and does installing one void your warrenty

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AEM is not out yet. out of the Injen or K&N i would go with the Injen, only b/c it is what i had on my last car. I also think i herd that you lose some low-end power with the K&N

it does void your warrenty however if you wait for the AEM and buy it form the dealer it will be coverd.

I would go w/ Injen.

Its been delayed due to another manufacturer making a complaint. I guess the other manufacturer wants all of the business they can get and doesn't want any competition.

i heard that going with other intakes void your warrenty is that True or False and also i Love injen but i heard their stuff makes your check eng light come on i know it does this in the Lexus is 300 and they have done nothing to fix the problem

i heard that going with other intakes void your warrenty is that True or False and also i Love injen but i heard their stuff makes your check eng light come on i know it does this in the Lexus is 300 and they have done nothing to fix the problem

It will not void the warrenty. You are safe I have talked to dealers and they all told me it doesn't void the warrenty.

Does any have any dyno's on the AEM INTAKE? I know it hasn't been released but someone is doing the test on it, so someone has to have the dyno for it.

can someone second that adding a K&N intake will not void anything? I also want to change the springs and add front/back sway bars. Will this stuff void anything? Do i need to get a specific brand?

it will not void warrenty, they have to prove that the mod cause the failure to void it

it will not void warrenty, they have to prove that the mod cause the failure to void it

i 2nd that.

and what part of warranty are you refering too. CAI isnt gonna void the warranty if your car rattles. and a CF hood isnt gonna void warranty of ur engine breaking down.

warranty is overrated. you guys better be careful. i got ripped off before, took it to court too. i win but dunt risk it

If you have a K & N or Ingen CAI and you get hydro-locked, you're pretty much screwed. If you have the AEM CAI and it is installed by a dealer, and get hydrolocked, the warranty will cover you. Again, the dealer will probably charge you $100-$200 for something you can do yourself. Like other posts have mentioned, if you get a rattle or you windows won't roll down, it won't void that, however if it's engine related problem, the dealer may have a case not to help you

If you have a K & N or Ingen CAI and you get hydro-locked, you're pretty much screwed. If you have the AEM CAI and it is installed by a dealer, and get hydrolocked, the warranty will cover you. Again, the dealer will probably charge you $100-$200 for something you can do yourself. Like other posts have mentioned, if you get a rattle or you windows won't roll down, it won't void that, however if it's engine related problem, the dealer may have a case not to help you

Do any of the CAI or Short Ram kits avoid hydro-lock. Because of the placement of the Weapon-R, is it more or less likely to have hydro-lock (or is it affected at all)? I'd love to get a CAI but I can't afford not to drive it went it rains.

aem makes by pass valves that are supposed to prevent hydro lock has any one used one and actualy driven throught a deep puddle with it?

it will not void warrenty, they have to prove that the mod cause the failure to void it

doesnt this apply to all parts then?

aem makes by pass valves that are supposed to prevent hydro lock has any one used one and actualy driven throught a deep puddle with it?

i'v seen a demo where they stick the filter in a bucket of water (now if i can only remember where i saw it)

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www.aempower.com they do the demonstration with an NSX

just keep your old airbox and setup and switch it out if you have to.

The aem has hydrolock issues on the celica's and the dealer can say that they won't warranty if they feel you had added something then put stock items back on vehicle I work at a toyota dealer and have seen some celica's that people were street racing and blew the 6 speed tranny downshifting and they would'nt warranty them

can someone second that adding a K&N intake will not void anything? I also want to change the springs and add front/back sway bars. Will this stuff void anything? Do i need to get a specific brand?

remember that the dealership still has to prove that a particular aftermarket part caused the problem, before they can say that u voided the warranty...i think you will be ok....i think if u do change the springs and sways to anything other than TRD, it will void the warranty, but still they have to prove it....its a very touchy subject, no concrete answer :eyebrow:

pssstt... heres a secret... WeaponR .. http://www.racingsolution.com

k&n adds 8.1 HP!!


http://www.knfilterchargers.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-8605TP

If you have a K & N or Ingen CAI and you get hydro-locked, you're pretty much screwed. If you have the AEM CAI and it is installed by a dealer, and get hydrolocked, the warranty will cover you. Again, the dealer will probably charge you $100-$200 for something you can do yourself. Like other posts have mentioned, if you get a rattle or you windows won't roll down, it won't void that, however if it's engine related problem, the dealer may have a case not to help you

:flame: How many times did I have to tell you not to drive in swamp waters... hydrolocked? what? HOW!? Im just messin with 'ya...

So, I had a camry once, with an anjen intake on it... didnt void any warranty... anyway... here are the simple rules... The reason you have an airBOX is so that built up pressure gives you more power in the low end... the open element filters get better airflow when youre at speed...etc.
What I would do is install a K&N air filter on the stock airbox and tube... and then seal it in... its a little of both worlds... flame me if I didnt make sense

at racingsolutions.. they say the weapon r has a "12.91HP " gain. is that a little far fetched or is it just me?

SCC did a dyno (http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0411scc_scion/) run of the AEM CAI w/ the TRD exhaust. But there is a discrepancy in their results. In the body of the article, they state that the CAI and exhaust put down 141 whp and 152 wtq. However, in the result summary, they show the results as 152whp and 141 wtq. My guess would be that the latter is correct, since intakes, particularly CAIs, tend to sacrifice low-end power for more power up top.

at racingsolutions.. they say the weapon r has a "12.91HP " gain. is that a little far fetched or is it just me?

Those gains are from the initial dyno run of the prototype. A follow up dyno of the intake resulted in only a 6whp gain. However, they have since made further changes (to correct issues with CELs), and no dyno's have been released yet of that final version. I believe lvnurs will be doing another dyno of the final design, along w/ CC's complete exhaust kit w/ high-flow cat, soon.

k&n adds 8.1 HP!!


http://www.knfilterchargers.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-8605TP

That dyno is for the xB. The tC dyno is here (http://www.kandn.com/dynocharts/69-8607.jpg), and shows a 6hp gain. However, heat soak appears to be a particularly nasty problem w/ the K&N CAI for the tC, according to feedback from people on this forum.

Well, then thats good new for me then!

hey there people...ok i got the K&N CAI and havent put it on yet, I am waiting for the spring...anyway, what is heat soak?...if anyone has an answer let me know...thanks people :eyebrow:

hey there people...ok i got the K&N CAI and havent put it on yet, I am waiting for the spring...anyway, what is heat soak?...if anyone has an answer let me know...thanks people :eyebrow:

As you know, the inside of the engine bay gets really hot, some areas more then others. Depending on the position of an intake (and the material its made from), its piping may begin to absorb a lot of the ambient heat, more then it dissipates (given the weather conditions) causing the temperature of the air being pulled in through the intake to rise. The hotter air gets the less dense it gets, therefore the volumetric efficiency in each power stroke is reduced, causing a loss in power. On colder days/nights, it wont be a problem, but on warmer days it can pose a big issue. Wrapping the tubing in heat insulating wrap (you can find it on eBay cheap) reportedly helps alleviate the problem, but even then the heat will eventually seep through. There are cold air boxes available for some of the short ram intakes, that attempt to shield the intake cone from the ambient heat. Alternatively, you could wait for an intake that is not made out of metal, such as Volant's. Theirs is made from polyethylene which will not be as prone to heat as a metal intake. I contacted Volant a few weeks ago regarding an intake for the tC. They said that they are currently looking for a tC to test fit one on. FYI, Volant is located in Rancho Cucamonga, CA, if anyone is in that area, you might want to consider contacting them. Here's their website (http://www.volantperformance.com/Index.asp), I heard about them from "Two Guy's Garage" on SpeedVision.

i have been reading about all of this for a while now and there are so many replies w/ positive/negative comments that I do not know what to pick. K&N was one choice I was thinking about.... can someone give me a good reason why not to get it?? OR - how about the one that you can get from the factory??? Please let me know cause I ordered my scion and I have a week to think about what I want done to it.

i have been reading about all of this for a while now and there are so many replies w/ positive/negative comments that I do not know what to pick. K&N was one choice I was thinking about.... can someone give me a good reason why not to get it?? OR - how about the one that you can get from the factory??? Please let me know cause I ordered my scion and I have a week to think about what I want done to it.

I would suggest you save your money and wait for more dyno results from Weapon R, Injen, AEM, and K&N. It's not like you have to have it installed as soon as your car gets in.

hey there people...ok i got the K&N CAI and havent put it on yet, I am waiting for the spring...anyway, what is heat soak?...if anyone has an answer let me know...thanks people :eyebrow:

As you know, the inside of the engine bay gets really hot, some areas more then others. Depending on the position of an intake (and the material its made from), its piping may begin to absorb a lot of the ambient heat, more then it dissipates (given the weather conditions) causing the temperature of the air being pulled in through the intake to rise. The hotter air gets the less dense it gets, therefore the volumetric efficiency in each power stroke is reduced, causing a loss in power. On colder days/nights, it wont be a problem, but on warmer days it can pose a big issue. Wrapping the tubing in heat insulating wrap (you can find it on eBay cheap) reportedly helps alleviate the problem, but even then the heat will eventually seep through. There are cold air boxes available for some of the short ram intakes, that attempt to shield the intake cone from the ambient heat. Alternatively, you could wait for an intake that is not made out of metal, such as Volant's. Theirs is made from polyethylene which will not be as prone to heat as a metal intake. I contacted Volant a few weeks ago regarding an intake for the tC. They said that they are currently looking for a tC to test fit one on. FYI, Volant is located in Rancho Cucamonga, CA, if anyone is in that area, you might want to consider contacting them. Here's their website (http://www.volantperformance.com/Index.asp), I heard about them from "Two Guy's Garage" on SpeedVision.



wow man....that is some good info...thanks alot man...i think i might try to get sum insulation...but that wont till be the spring...anyway, thanks for the help man..peace :bow:

what should i do guys? I am gonna get a catback and need an intake that will match it. ... what should i get? I know K&N has always been a good company for many years.... is there something better?

I hear that the K&N exhaust (or was it the intake?) sacrifices low end tq.

you heard that the k&N intake sacrifices low end torque because that is what i have heard also but I dont know if thats fact. I just might spend the few extra bucks and have scion put on the intake they they say to put on.... i forget the name of it. Does anybody have any view on me doing this?

That's the Borla exhaust. I don't recomend that sense it's just an axle-back. Go for the full cat-back if you have the money.

that's hilarious that the two of you are going on and not really paying attention. one guy's talking intakes and the other is talking about exhausts! :rofl:
just read this post, it answers your questions, bro.

that's hilarious that the two of you are going on and not really paying attention. one guy's talking intakes and the other is talking about exhausts! :rofl:
just read this post, it answers your questions, bro.
Wups :rofl: . I guess I got mixed up lol.

i wonder if heat soak is the problem, or if it's the heated TB. doesn't the tc have a heated TB?

i posted this elsewhere but i dont even know i cant find the AEM one anywhere but here http://scionsport.com/store/product_info.php/cPath/23_42/products_id/205?osCsid=641b01c73016529520dd8737d5d636fc
so i dont know if its out or not anyone know?

it's not out yet, but people are taking preorders it looks like

I think I am going to get the Injen today. Can someone stand up and give me reason why I shouldnt? I looked at a dyno of the K&N and it showed a very small amount of torque decrease at a low rpm but I cant give you the exact numbers. Truthfully, I really wanted to go w/ the K&N still because I know they have always made good products.

How's the dyno on the Injen???

Supposedly the Dyno report on the Weapon R (which is NOT a CAI) is around 6 hp, which is the SAME as the K&N CAI. and is cheaper :P

How much are you getting the Injen one for?

I heard the injen is suppose to put out around 11 and same with the K&N. I heard the Weapon R is suppose to put out around 13. And who the hell knows when the AEM is coming out. Can anyone back these numbers up with dynos or accurate 0-60 times before and after the intake.

I heard the injen is suppose to put out around 11 and same with the K&N. I heard the Weapon R is suppose to put out around 13. And who the hell knows when the AEM is coming out. Can anyone back these numbers up with dynos or accurate 0-60 times before and after the intake.

These numbers seem really off to me :tap:

Doesn't K&N produce 6hp
Weapon R SW 6hp

not sure about the others, but 11hp seems to be alot just for an intake :tap:

just keep your old airbox and setup and switch it out if you have to.

i 2nd that motion

I heard the injen is suppose to put out around 11 and same with the K&N. I heard the Weapon R is suppose to put out around 13. And who the hell knows when the AEM is coming out. Can anyone back these numbers up with dynos or accurate 0-60 times before and after the intake.

These numbers seem really off to me :tap:

Doesn't K&N produce 6hp
Weapon R SW 6hp

not sure about the others, but 11hp seems to be alot just for an intake :tap:

You're both probably right. K&N and Weapon R produce 6WHP, so saying they produce 11-13hp is probably right if he ment at the crank.

I have the AEM intake right now. K&N is sending me the Typhoon (should be here any day). As soon as it gets here, and I find someone to help install it, I'll post on here and let you all know how much, if any, difference there is.

I should be getting my Injen intake put on this week as well and I'll report back. I was hoping to get a before and after dyno done but I don't think that will happen.

Just got my Typhoon dropped off by UPS. As soon as I can get someone over here with 2 good hands and 2 good feet to help me install it I'll let you all know if there is any difference.

I have the AEM intake right now. K&N is sending me the Typhoon (should be here any day). As soon as it gets here, and I find someone to help install it, I'll post on here and let you all know how much, if any, difference there is.

you have the AEM intake for the xb right? this is the "power hungry (TC)" board. so what ever the gains are with the xb have nothing to do with the tc.

(disclaimer i'm not trying to flame you, just wondering why you are posting about xb intakes in the tc section)

I have the AEM intake right now. K&N is sending me the Typhoon (should be here any day). As soon as it gets here, and I find someone to help install it, I'll post on here and let you all know how much, if any, difference there is.

you have the AEM intake for the xb right? this is the "power hungry (TC)" board. so what ever the gains are with the xb have nothing to do with the tc.

(disclaimer i'm not trying to flame you, just wondering why you are posting about xb intakes in the tc section)

Cause I didn't read the header.......... :doh:

hydrolocked? where the hell are you driving your tC? i'd throw on a bypass valve if your worried about water entering your intake.... my K&N CAI is coming in on thursday, i'll keep ya guys posted on how i like it. :)

Getting K&N as soon as it comes off backorder...
as far as getting hydrolocked, i heard you practically hafta drive into a lake., I wouldn't worry about it too much, just dont drive into any severely flooded places where your grill might be submerged completely. I mean, you shouldnt do that anyways.

Getting K&N as soon as it comes off backorder...
as far as getting hydrolocked, i heard you practically hafta drive into a lake., I wouldn't worry about it too much, just dont drive into any severely flooded places where your grill might be submerged completely. I mean, you shouldnt do that anyways.My buddy just got a silver K&N Intake from vividracing, picked it up locally, they have like 10 in stock from what he told me, might want to give them a call. :)

i have a K&N CAI on the way to my house right now, i've been waiting 7-8 weeks for it.