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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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No pics of me (that I know of yet) ... but here's my album of a few others:

Full Album: http://www.allankintz.com/photo-albu...-arnot-mall-2/

And then there's the videos...

This was my best run (6 out of 9 for the day). I won ST out of 2 cars (second was a Jetta that wasn't of much concern). Also had best Street Touring time overall (ST, STS, STX, etc) - which was probably like 6 cars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLhodNwkeSc

Second video of all of my runs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs-pSXBtfZ4

Another video! This one from the g/f's dad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_t2Wvb7JbA

Full Results: http://www.glen-scca.org/Solo/2009/Results20090913.asp
And I believe I ended up 5th in PAX for the day (out of 34).

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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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2nd video finally added. Stupid Youtube.
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Added another video!
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Looks great. It seems so strange to me that you loop through the same section multiple times, but it looks like you can keep a pretty good flow going the whole time. Nice form Ack.
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Thanks man.

With that lot being so small, we have to do laps - and actually if it weren't for some people whining about having to keep track (counting? psht!) we would be doing 3 laps. As it was, 2 laps was still under 40 seconds.

That last video was not even my best run... that was a 38.9 something. I finished with a 38.5. In fact, that run of the last video (run 8, I believe) felt AWFUL. I felt like I was pushing all over the place - and really was going in too hot in most of the turns. Looks a hell of a lot cleaner than that on the video though.

Oh ya... added results link to first post.
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Nice vids and good job! Way to take ST and all the Street Touring! I run ST here, and we always have like 10 people, most of them 89-90 Civics. I do so poorly against them lol.
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F'ing Civics. Ya, no chance if they're even mildly prepped for ST. I know what that's like.
I've been lucky the last couple years that there haven't been any around here. That changes next year though. A guy I know is going to be building up an ST Civic for next year.
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Originally Posted by ack154
F'ing Civics. Ya, no chance if they're even mildly prepped for ST. I know what that's like.
I've been lucky the last couple years that there haven't been any around here. That changes next year though. A guy I know is going to be building up an ST Civic for next year.
^Then you'll have some competition! Do you think even a heavily modified tC would stand a chance against a mildly prepared Civic following ST rules?
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In a word? No.

They're ridiculously light. Tons of mods. Enough power. And with some good tires, no chance.

The tC is a hog compared to a prepped Civic. It does have more power but is still limited. Can't even swap the header in ST for a tC since it removes a cat. I've been thinking about a Unichip or something to get some more power - but I'm not even sure if I can use a piggyback in ST.

Don't get me wrong, it'll be fun. And if I can get my driving straight (I don't think I'm too bad, but more seat time is always good), I might be able to drive the wheels off.
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Yeah, hopefully you can beat it. It's always rewarding to be the underdog and beat a car that has a clear advantage over you.
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Originally Posted by ack154
I've been thinking about a Unichip or something to get some more power - but I'm not even sure if I can use a piggyback in ST.
You can, but it has to pass emissions.


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F. The engine management system parameters and operation may be modified only via the methods listed below. Any and all modifications must meet or exceed the applicable EPA tailpipe emissions standards for the year, make, and model of the car. These allowances also apply to forced induction cars, except that no changes to standard boost levels, intercoolers, or boost controls are permitted. Boost changes indirectly resulting from allowed modifications are permissible, but directly altering or modifying the boost or turbo controls, either mechanically or electronically, is strictly prohibited.

1. Reprogrammed ECU (via hardware and/or software) may be used in the standard housing. Traction control parameters may not be altered. Altered engine controllers may not alter boost levels in forced induction engines.

2. Electronic components may be installed in-line between an engine’s sensors and ECU. These components may alter the signal coming from the sensor in order to affect the ECU’s operation of engine management system. Example: fuel controllers that modify the signal coming from an airflow sensor.

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Do you think even a heavily modified tC would stand a chance against a mildly prepared Civic following ST rules?
No. It would take years and years of aftermarket development to even start thinking of trophying a National-level ST tC. Unless you have a 2.5 RS or a 240SX HICAS, you won't even come close to the Spec Civic guys.

There's a thread on giving them their own class on the SCCAForums site that currently has over 500 posts since Nationals. Apparently, of the 38 ST cars at Nationals this year, only 3 weren't Spec Civic's. This argument has been put up every year, and grows every year with their increasing domination, but I suspect it won't be resolved until the class is completely devoid of anything else for a couple of years.

However, there's hope: I think (and hope), and I suspect ack might agree with me, that the tC is a definite HS contender.

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No. It would take years and years of aftermarket development to even start thinking of trophying a National-level ST tC. Unless you have a 2.5 RS or a 240SX HICAS, you won't even come close to the Spec Civic guys.

There's a thread on giving them their own class on the SCCAForums site that currently has over 500 posts since Nationals. Apparently, of the 38 ST cars at Nationals this year, only 3 weren't Spec Civic's. This argument has been put up every year, and grows every year with their increasing domination, but I suspect it won't be resolved until the class is completely devoid of anything else for a couple of years.

However, there's hope: I think (and hope), and I suspect ack might agree with me, that the tC is a definite HS contender.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Hopefully they can have their own class, it would make ST a lot more fun here.

I'm always tempted to try H-Stock, but I would have to get rid of my wheels and springs.
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I need to start running SCCA events. I still have no clue where I placed on Sunday.
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Originally Posted by pinoyFMtC
I'm always tempted to try H-Stock, but I would have to get rid of my wheels and springs.
You'd have to get rid of your rear swaybar and shifter, too... but that's a small price to pay to be able to run lightweight rims and Hoosiers.

On paper, we crush the Mini's on more open courses.
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Originally Posted by CDogbert
On paper, we crush the Mini's on more open courses.
My first outing in HS was actually against a friend who had been running a Mini for some time. We were on a repurposed air strip with long sprint sections and it was pretty clear that the tC was the dominant car between us. My second trip out with the Mini driver we were pretty close, but the track was a lot of short sections into tight rapid transition sections. I'd say the Mini and the tC are pretty close competitors. If you find a course that has a good mix of both the short and longer-open layouts, they'll be about on par.

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You'd have to get rid of your rear swaybar and shifter, too... but that's a small price to pay to be able to run lightweight rims and Hoosiers.
Mmmmm, that'd be very fun in an HS tC. (I prefer BFG, but same concept. )
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Originally Posted by CDogbert
You'd have to get rid of your rear swaybar and shifter, too... but that's a small price to pay to be able to run lightweight rims and Hoosiers.

On paper, we crush the Mini's on more open courses.
Good point, thanks.
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If you guys want to run HS in a tC, you just need to get a 2010. Since the RS 5.0 comes with the rear sway and springs, you should be able to legally put the same rear sway and springs on any other 2010. Apparently its supposed to do well like that.
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Originally Posted by ack154
Since the RS 5.0 comes with the rear sway and springs, you should be able to legally put the same rear sway and springs on any other 2010. Apparently its supposed to do well like that.
The entire RS 5.0 package would need to be installed, if I interpret the rules correctly.
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Ya, that I'm not sure of exactly. But it would be interesting to look into if someone were serious. Not to mention the wider tires with the 18s.
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I actually don't know if running 18's would help. If anything, I would want to run the Spec package 16's before I run 18's... and I thought about doing a Spec package conversion, but I really don't want to lose my sunroof.



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