does anyone know if the hotchikis front sway bar can be used with the TRD rear sway?

sure, why couldn't it?

thanks, i'll probably try it out if i get impatient waiting for TRD to come out w/ the front....haha

you can mix and match most suspension components, keeping common sense in mind.. i plan on selling my rear sway (hotchkis) once i build a stiffer replacement.

Go for it. I just installed Hotchkis sways, both front and rear, and I like them a lot. I tried the harder setting in the front first, but I didn't like it, so I switched to the softer setting. With the soft setting I feel I get more tire contact. The hard setting feels good at first, but I noticed that it was too stiff and I was getting more lean towards the outer edge of the tire.

Thought this might help.

Does anyone know the diameter difference between hotchkis rear vs. TRD rear sway?

Hotchkis rear is 27mm, not sure what TRD is though. I tried to look it up, but couldn't find it.

Sorry,

thanks!

yep...and that's compared to stock at, if I remember correctly, 23mm. Someone may come along and correct me on that.

I tried the harder setting in the front first, but I didn't like it, so I switched to the softer setting.

How difficult is it to readjust the sways stiffness? Do you have to reinstall the whole thing or does it just take acouple of minutes?

To adjust the stiffness you just undo the endlink and move it. You do not need to remove the bar.

To adjust the stiffness you just undo the endlink and move it. You do not need to remove the bar.

ty6 trd rear is 24mm. stock is 21/22mm (5spd/auto)

Thank you yesti!

I got my hotchkis bars installed about 4 days ago, and they are making a lot of rubbing noise. Is this normal? The guy who installed it didn't use both tubes of grease that were provided, could it be that more grease is needed? Please respond, so I know if I need to get this fixed or not.

John

I got my hotchkis bars installed about 4 days ago, and they are making a lot of rubbing noise. Is this normal? The guy who installed it didn't use both tubes of grease that were provided, could it be that more grease is needed? Please respond, so I know if I need to get this fixed or not.

John

John,

If the rubbing noise is more of a squeek then it is probably the bushings. Also because you have to drop the front subframe make sure that everything is tight. Hope this helps.

I got my hotchkis bars installed about 4 days ago, and they are making a lot of rubbing noise. Is this normal? The guy who installed it didn't use both tubes of grease that were provided, could it be that more grease is needed? Please respond, so I know if I need to get this fixed or not.

John

John,

If the rubbing noise is more of a squeek then it is probably the bushings. Also because you have to drop the front subframe make sure that everything is tight. Hope this helps.

dont you have to grease up the bushings a little? so the squealing wont be there?

I got my hotchkis bars installed about 4 days ago, and they are making a lot of rubbing noise. Is this normal? The guy who installed it didn't use both tubes of grease that were provided, could it be that more grease is needed? Please respond, so I know if I need to get this fixed or not.

John

John,

If the rubbing noise is more of a squeek then it is probably the bushings. Also because you have to drop the front subframe make sure that everything is tight. Hope this helps.

dont you have to grease up the bushings a little? so the squealing wont be there?

That is correct if not enough grease or no grease at all was used the bushings will squeek. That is a common problem with any product that uses polyurethane bushings.

Thanks, I went back to the shop today, and they just took the grease gun to the bushings. It only makes a little noise when im going over speed bumps, but otherwise they are completely quiet. great product that I would recommend to everyone. I can take corners at 50 now!! One problem is that the bolts provided with the kit are little bit too small. The shop got ones just like it just a little bit longer.

Thanks,

John

does anyone know if the hotchikis front sway bar can be used with the TRD rear sway?
You could do that, but you probably don't want to. Here's why:

The TRD rear bar is made to work with the stock front bar to give the tC more neutral handling. From the factory, the car understeers. The addition of the TRD rear bar brings the tC closer to neutral (no oversteer, no understeer.)

The Hotchkis front bar is made to be used with the Hotchkis rear bar. They are both much stiffer than stock (and stiffer than the TRD rear bar,) and are tuned to give the tC neutral handling when used as a pair.

If you put the Hotchkis front bar and TRD rear bar on the tC it will corner flatter than stock, but it will tend to understeer. Ideally, you want the car neutral, or even a little towards oversteer since the forward weight bias makes the car tend to understeer regardless of suspension setup.

Either go with the Hotchkis set or the stock front/TRD rear setup.

If you put the Hotchkis front bar and TRD rear bar on the tC it will corner flatter than stock, but it will tend to understeer. Ideally, you want the car neutral, or even a little towards oversteer since the forward weight bias makes the car tend to understeer regardless of suspension setup.


but our cars have lift throttle oversteer, even bone stock. if tuned completely neutral it would be even easier to kick the tail out by lifting. so to tune it for slight oversteer sounds dangerous for street driving as you never know when you need to slow down/brake unexpectedly for whatever reason.

If you put the Hotchkis front bar and TRD rear bar on the tC it will corner flatter than stock, but it will tend to understeer. Ideally, you want the car neutral, or even a little towards oversteer since the forward weight bias makes the car tend to understeer regardless of suspension setup.


but our cars have lift throttle oversteer, even bone stock. if tuned completely neutral it would be even easier to kick the tail out by lifting. so to tune it for slight oversteer sounds dangerous for street driving as you never know when you need to slow down/brake unexpectedly for whatever reason.
It's one thing to say "You can induce lift throttle oversteer" (which I was able to do in my '85 Cavalier station wagon) and another thing to say "The car suffers from lift throttle oversteer", meaning it's something you can't avoid, like an older Porsche 911 (newer Porsches have had all the oversteer problems dialed out of the suspension setups.)

Your comment explains why cars are primarily set up for understeer, it's safer. I don't really understand why you would put a TRD rear sway bar on your car if you feel that way, though.

but our cars have lift throttle oversteer, even bone stock. if tuned completely neutral it would be even easier to kick the tail out by lifting. so to tune it for slight oversteer sounds dangerous for street driving as you never know when you need to slow down/brake unexpectedly for whatever reason.

It's one thing to say "You can induce lift throttle oversteer" (which I was able to do in my '85 Cavalier station wagon) and another thing to say "The car suffers from lift throttle oversteer", meaning it's something you can't avoid, like an older Porsche 911 (newer Porsches have had all the oversteer problems dialed out of the suspension setups.)

Your comment explains why cars are primarily set up for understeer, it's safer. I don't really understand why you would put a TRD rear sway bar on your car if you feel that way, though.

I was used to my 85 civic hb dx. It was very hard to get that car to go neutral since it had no rear sway bar. the trd bar on street should be good enough for me.