I'm seriously considering it. It seems that the throws are long on the box.

The scion dealer where i got my car is like "thats not for that car" ...i"m like "i"m loooking at it on the site" and then he"s like "yeah but we dont sell that." ...._______.

So i also need some ideas of where to get it installed.

thanks

I absolutely love mine and you get a really nice leather TRD shift knob that you can only get with the short shifter. I hated the long throws on my test drive, I HAD to get that thing. Its worth it!

I absolutely love mine and you get a really nice leather TRD shift knob that you can only get with the short shifter. I hated the long throws on my test drive, I HAD to get that thing. Its worth it!

How hard is it to install? Is there a big noticable difference

I absolutely love mine and you get a really nice leather TRD shift knob that you can only get with the short shifter. I hated the long throws on my test drive, I HAD to get that thing. Its worth it!

How hard is it to install? Is there a big noticable difference


I had a friend install my TRD quick shift. The feel is far more crisp from gate to gate. The throw is shorter than the stock, but not by much. The biggest advantage is that it offers a definitive and immediate "feel" for each gear you shift into. Some after-market short throws (for varying car models) may have much shorter throws than the TRD's, but many of them possess ambiguous, notchy gates that actually eats up shifting times. Be wary. A shorter throw does not always garauntee faster shifting times.

Fast shifting is a biomotor skill that can be developed in most drivers. With continuous practice a typical driver can eventually shift a stock shifter as fast as, or faster than, a driver who relies on the shorter throw of an after market shifter. After a while this skill becomes a nearly reflexive process that doesn't require effort.

In short, the TRD with its somewhat shorter throw but very crispy shifting trait is a great addition.

Highly recommended.

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Hmm. I have been shifting for years. Over 25, really...and I think, that I have it down. You know, as in, pretty fast when I want to be.

So. My question: Is it worth it in the long run, to someone who shifts with out even thinking about it?

And, also, I have the tC shift knob on my xB (the cool one with silver and leather grip)...will this fit the short shifter?

I absolutely love mine and you get a really nice leather TRD shift knob that you can only get with the short shifter. I hated the long throws on my test drive, I HAD to get that thing. Its worth it!

How hard is it to install? Is there a big noticable difference


I had a friend install my TRD quick shift. The feel is far more crisp from gate to gate. The throw is shorter than the stock, but not by much. The biggest advantage is that it offers a definitive and immediate "feel" for each gear you shift into. Some after-market short throws (for varying car models) may have much shorter throws than the TRD's, but many of them possess ambiguous, notchy gates that actually eats up shifting times. Be wary. A shorter throw does not always garauntee faster shifting times.

Fast shifting is a biomotor skill that can be developed in most drivers. With continuous practice a typical driver can eventually shift a stock shifter as fast as, or faster than, a driver who relies on the shorter throw of an after market shifter. After a while this skill becomes a nearly reflexive process that doesn't require effort.

In short, the TRD with its somewhat shorter throw but very crispy shifting trait is a great addition.

Highly recommended.

:clap:

I disagree with most of that. The shifter is simply a rod on a pivot that control the cables that control the transmission. There are no gates or anything of that nature in the shifter itself. It's just a ball joint in there that you can move any direction when it's not installed. What makes it feel more crisp is the shorter shaft which reduces your leverage so you actually have to use more force to shift. The shift distance is considerably shorter that stock consider first gear with the short shifter is about where neutral is for the stock shifter.

As for the shift speed, that is a developed skill but you also have to consider basic physics. Distance / Speed = Time If you reduce the distance, time will be reduced.

I do agree that it is worth the money. It really does enhance the driving experience by bringing the shifter back towards the driver so you don't have to reach as far to shift and reducing the throw length so you can get from gear to gear faster.

Personally, I hated the little shift knob that came with it. The seams on the top were very uncomfortable. I bought a Momo knob and just love the feel.

They both wear out since the base is plastic and the rod is metallic, and the rod has some grooves on them that CAN still wear out just as the stock one. Regardless the TRD shifter is better because the throws are 33% shorter, is angeled rearward so you dont have to sit upright as much, and its a Toyota backed product especially if its Dealer installed. So it's a quality product.

get the shifter buddy you will love it,,,,me likey alot.

I forgot a detail about the crispness this morning. The stock shifter has rubber mounts whereas the short shifter has metal mounts which means there's no mushy play from the base.

Don't think just because the base is plastic that it will wear out. If you know someone that wore one out that's one thing, but if not, they make some serious plastic these days. Many of the gears and such in smaller machinery such as household appliances, photocopiers, etc. have been switched to plastic. They hold up quite well.

Hmm. I have been shifting for years. Over 25, really...and I think, that I have it down. You know, as in, pretty fast when I want to be.

So. My question: Is it worth it in the long run, to someone who shifts with out even thinking about it?

And, also, I have the tC shift knob on my xB (the cool one with silver and leather grip)...will this fit the short shifter?

It's hard to say if it's worth it in the long run if one trains to shift faster even without the quick shofter. I'd be inclined to say that the slightly shorter throw and the improved crisp feel (over stock) may help further decrease the timing.

I also don't care much for the little leather knob that came with the RD quick shifter and so I switched it out for one that I had in my WRX.

Chadfo wrote:

"The shifter is simply a rod on a pivot that control the cables that control the transmission. There are no gates or anything of that nature in the shifter itself. It's just a ball joint in there that you can move any direction when it's not installed. What makes it feel more crisp is the shorter shaft which reduces your leverage so you actually have to use more force to shift."


Thanks for the info. The TRD quick shifter definitely offers a more precise shift over the stock, whatever the mechanism. And adding this fact to fast shifting skill results in a much faster shift time than that of other after-market short throws that are too notchy and actually slows down the shift time. There have been many discussions on other forums about this topic. In short, my point was that the TRD quick shift has a much more precise shift feel than stock and many other after-market short throws.

Also, I'm aware of the physics involved in a shorter throw. But thank you for the rudimentary lesson!



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Bottom line don't get the TRD it costs way to much and it's not that much less of a throw. If you want a short throw and short shifter get the TWM and it's alot cheaper plus it's made buy a company that specialises in performance shifters.

two words for any short-shifter. . . hell ya.

What about the short shifter, with the clutch? That is the combo that SCION offers at my TOYOTA dealer...or is that too much?

get a rs-type or a randode shifter , better quality and cheaper.

i put the short shifter on at the beginning of november. I am very pleased with it. The lever is only a little shorter, but the leverage ratio is definetly better(more force, but crisper shifts). Also the biggest difference is the mounting bushings, the stock shifter has rubber mounts, the trd quickshifter has steel bushings. Easy install, worth it.

the trd shifter is super easy to install, unlike the twm. the trd one comes with its own base so you just unplug the two cables and 4 screws and put it in. the twm one requires you to get the shift rod out of the base, which is more work

it depends on how much work you want to do.

I have the RS-Type it definatly has a shorter throw in 1st 3rd and 5th. It seems to go back into 2nd 4th and Rev further. I will be gettin Randys shrt shifter next and will let you know which is better.