XB- Got a rattling noise coming from inside the hood while stopped at a light, etc.and only when stopped . :nails: IF in neutral or driving , no noise....anyone guess what it could be?..I do have a cold air intake, but it doesn't seem to be "hitting" anything..I checked under the hood for possibilities, but found none...no lose belts, no rubbing of any sort,...
HammerHead
02-03-2005, 03:24 PM
I've had the same problem since my box was new. Seems that the service guys can hear it, but can't find it. I'm going to have them look again when I take mine in for an oil change. I've looked under the hood and can't find anyting loose. Hoping the third time is a charm with these service guys. :pray:
mattxb
02-03-2005, 03:44 PM
What up guys,
I have had the same problem for a while now. Does the noise/rattle vary in pitch and volume at times???? I have taken it to the dealer many, MANY times and they can not seem to locate the source of the problem. I put the car in drive and applied the E-brake so I could look into further. Although I am unable to locate the source myself I did find that if you sit infront of the car with it in drive with the e-brake on and wait until you hear the noise, lift up in the front fender... the noise then seems to disapate. Possibly something with the fan? .... not sure, but it drives me friggin crazy. I also have the injen short ram system and that is definetly not the problem.
jaymo
02-03-2005, 03:55 PM
Yes, the noise seems to be different at times...and it did sound like the front of the engine compartment, around the fan too..could it be the fan assembly vibrating against something? :nails:
mattxb
02-03-2005, 04:04 PM
Yes, the noise seems to be different at times...and it did sound like the front of the engine compartment, around the fan too..could it be the fan assembly vibrating against something? :nails:
Thats what I was thinking. If you have any new developments, please keep me posted.
ScionMikey04
02-03-2005, 04:24 PM
XB- Got a rattling noise coming from inside the hood while stopped at a light, etc.and only when stopped . :nails: IF in neutral or driving , no noise....anyone guess what it could be?..I do have a cold air intake, but it doesn't seem to be "hitting" anything..I checked under the hood for possibilities, but found none...no lose belts, no rubbing of any sort,...
To all who have posted in this thread so far I am also experiencing the same thing.No noise in neutral and when driving,only when idling at a stop light with foot on brake.Or with foot on brake and idling.I too have the AEM Cold air intake,I posted this same question in the Maintenace-Car Care Forum.The suggestion's in the responses suggested it was the hood rattling and to adjust the little rubber grometts under the hood up by turning on them.This did not solve the problem,and this also will be my third time to take it in to dealer.I am going in on Monday,Feb 7th to get it checked out again.I am getting a little annoyed at my dealer because there just grasping at straw's and guessing what's wrong and not taking a through look at my Xb.I will post up probably Tuesday the 8th to let everyone know what if anything they come up with.This is very frustrating.Take Care. :pray: Mine also does very in how loud it get's.
ScionMikey04
04 Xb RS 1.0 #0686 of #2100
rhinonabox
02-03-2005, 04:55 PM
DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!!! MY BOX RATTLES LIKE A MARACA!!!! My passenger door panel rattles my dash rattles my keys rattle, my engine rattles, my back seat rattles, my license plate rattles. SCREW IT. I'm getting a louder sound system. I've had it in the shop 3 times already and the rattle is gone for the first day, then boom. It rattles even louder. I'm scared if I take it in again, I won't be able to hear my radio. Where can I get some dyno mat and ear plugs for a good price?
jaymo
02-03-2005, 05:50 PM
well, I payed for a car that isn't going to shake , rattle , and roll!...I will find out and get to the bottom of this!! :tap: I 'm leaning towards the fan assembly ..It is a process of elimination...One section at a time..One thing for sure, it ain't the cold air intake (one down, many to go!) As soon as I get it, I shall post it here!...
K9_Crate
02-03-2005, 05:55 PM
Me too! Rattle when in gear at a stop, not in neutral. My box is stock - no mods at all. If someone finds out what this is, please let me know! Thanks
disco
02-03-2005, 06:21 PM
Are you guys all sub 3k on your mileage?
rhinonabox
02-03-2005, 06:25 PM
6500 here
disco
02-03-2005, 06:32 PM
I had the same thing, and I am not affriad to tinker, at first I thought it was just the normal breaking in of a car, but in idel. " It takes two people so you can see" the air box rattles. I removed mine went to a Injen SR and it went away, The 3 bolts at the bottom of the stock air junk box were loose. I was also thinking stiff/new motor mounts take a while to get squishy! I have 5100mi, and no sounfd for a while.
disco
02-03-2005, 06:35 PM
oh yeah pull the parking break all the way up/ put in drive and look under the hoody! Automatic I hope.
rhinonabox
02-03-2005, 06:36 PM
I don't have the engine rattle since the install of my Injen CAI either. Everrything else rattles though.
disco
02-03-2005, 06:39 PM
I have figures it out, we have all purchased kind of inexpensive cars, so we must all go out and trick our rides out with all the goodies and help feed this multi billion dollar industry, yippeeeee!!!
mattxb
02-03-2005, 06:47 PM
I have figures it out, we have all purchased kind of inexpensive cars, so we must all go out and trick our rides out with all the goodies and help feed this multi billion dollar industry, yippeeeee!!!
:rofl:
I realize it ain't a lex but sometimes this noise gets crazy loud. I don't care how much you spend on a ride, this shouldn't happen. All the other little rattles....... well, you can't let em bother you. I do however still try and hunt them down and squash em...
disco
02-03-2005, 06:53 PM
Your right and I agree, but the more I change to aftermarket the more the noise all goes away it's mental!. My doors ratteled but I change out the speakers and built custom door panels, the sound was gone. It's as if the xb screams: "take me apart and put back together better."
rhinonabox
02-03-2005, 06:59 PM
It's as if the xb screams: "take me apart and put back together better."
It actually does. I've heard it.
ayS
02-03-2005, 07:08 PM
i'vve gor raddles everywhere in my car, even in the seat belt adjustment.
dirtysocks
02-03-2005, 07:15 PM
yeah i had the rattle when i was sitting still but only in gear and it would get louder with the a/c. i took it in and told em and they fixed it. he busted out some car lingo and something about a pipe being loose on the firewall
rhinonabox
02-03-2005, 07:23 PM
he busted out some car lingo
I just like that phrase. I think, when I get some better weather, I'm gonna print out the squeaks and rattles TSB and go through it myself. The folks at the dealership said they did everything on that TSB, and claim they don't hear any rattles when they drive it, but for some reason, it still rattles like an empty coke can filled with rocks and a fat guy. (The fat guy would be me :eyebrow: )
mattxb
02-03-2005, 07:42 PM
yeah i had the rattle when i was sitting still but only in gear and it would get louder with the a/c. i took it in and told em and they fixed it. he busted out some car lingo and something about a pipe being loose on the firewall
This is crutial info kidd!!! you can't just give us bla for an explaination. :P
btw, what is a firewall??
rhinonabox
02-03-2005, 07:58 PM
The firewall is the wall between your legs and the engine.. It's why you still have skin on your legs when you get out of your car.
rhinonabox
02-03-2005, 07:59 PM
Nless your a computer geek like me, then it means something totally different.
HammerHead
02-03-2005, 09:13 PM
I have 2500 miles on mine.
rhinonabox
02-03-2005, 09:19 PM
HOW WEIRD!!! Scion corp just called me about a survey I sent in with this very complaint on it!!!!!! They told me to take it to the dealer, and when i told them I already had, they got all godfather on me. "Do we need to step in and handle the dealer for you?" :tap: I said no thanks, that the dealer is doing fine. :bow: ALL HAIL SCION CORP. :bow:
mattxb
02-03-2005, 09:26 PM
HOW WEIRD!!! Scion corp just called me about a survey I sent in with this very complaint on it!!!!!! They told me to take it to the dealer, and when i told them I already had, they got all godfather on me. "Do we need to step in and handle the dealer for you?" :tap: I said no thanks, that the dealer is doing fine. :bow: ALL HAIL SCION CORP. :bow:
Well consider yourself lucky. As I said before I have been to the dealer and they tell me everything is cool. Not the case. I have been about 3 times and no luck.
Still have the damn noise while in drive at a stop. I plan on going again soon for the same thing, is there anything specific I should say to point them in the right direction. Like I said before, I was thinking it was the fan or something....
rant over.... just frustrated.
Oh rhinonabox, thanks for the firewall tip...... glad to know why I still have my legs. :eyebrow:
rhinonabox
02-03-2005, 09:43 PM
Well, like I said in my previous post, they never fixed my problem. I'm going to do the TSB myself and do some dyno matting etc... to make my box sound better. I would take one of the tech's for a test drive and point the noise out to them. That way, they can't call you 3 hours later and say they can't find a noise. No one knows your car like you. So you take them and show them. If they give you trouble, contact Scion Corp. at 1-866-707-2466 and _____ to them. They'll put a horse head in the tech's bed and get it squared away for you. My experience is, it's not fixed unless you do it yourself. I've had mine in 3 times too, but the engine rattle went away after installing my Injen CAI. All my problems are interior rattles now.
One other complaint. When the guy called I mentioned that there were no speakers in the dash. I've heard other people say that too, but he said that should not be. He said to go to the dealer and point it out and compare other boxes on the lot. There should be 6 speakers in the car. I believe I only have 4, which would explain why my stock stereo doesn't sound very hot.
Kong
02-03-2005, 09:51 PM
If the rattle appeared after you install the intake, it might just be the MAS and the fule line sensor wires that cause the rattle. Try to secure them. My box vibrates more after install the intake, but it doesn't cause rattle.
I don't have the noise in my xB, and I'm not a mechanic, but here's a quick question: Does the noise go away suddenly if you click on the air conditioner?
The reason I ask is I've had several cars in the past with noisy (clanking metallic rattle) air conditioner clutches that rattled when they were not engaged...
The A/C compressor on my xB is located right about where you are saying the noise seems to be originating...under the alternator, between the engine and radiator.
That may not be the problem, but at least it is one more thing to test and eliminate. Just flick on the A/C when you hear the rattle and see if it stops...
Yoshi
02-03-2005, 10:19 PM
I HIGHLY suggest that anyone with a recurring rattle that the dealer can't seem to repair contact Scion Corp. and let them start a case file.
I've got a handful that no one seems to be able to get rid of. I'm trying my new dealership in Chicago to see if they can do anything, but after that Scion said they would take a more involved role from the Corp. level.
If we don't work with them and tell them there are problems they won't know what to try and fix.
UBYTRON
02-04-2005, 12:50 AM
Where can I see the TSB files? Is there a website or a stickie? I think I got the fuel tank problem a few people have. I got to schedule my appointment with my dealer.
BangorXB
02-04-2005, 02:48 AM
after i read this thread today at work, i was thinkin to myself that i have never heard this "noise" yet so i drove home without my radio on the whole way home....and YEP when i stop at a stop light or stop sign i hear this rattling noise just like every1 seems to hear. i was hoping i was going to be lucky. and at first i thought it was something inside my xb...im not that lucky. im not even going to take it to my dealership since nobody else is having luck with them. i might as well just contact scion, unless some1 or myself can figure this out...
mike
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 01:08 PM
Contact Scion Corp only after having dealer look at it. The first thing corp will tell you is to take it to the dealer.
jaymo
02-04-2005, 01:24 PM
Well guys, after tinkering for about an hour under the hood, I still hadn't figured it out . Out of desperation, I decided to "press" lightly against the Air intake piping...That did it. It stopped the rattling ! Now, I throroughly looked around , touched around, and everything looked tight, no loose ends , no loose piping, and the only place where there was "contact " with the car frame at all was a small part of the air filter itself, so that wouldn't cause it.. While looking at the air intake piping with the engine running, the whole thing vibrates a bit..I am now wondering if this vibration of the piping is "shaking " some other car part , causing it to rattle,.. Back to square one , but I think I got a jump on it now..
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 01:32 PM
It's the intake. If you read all the posts on this thread, you will see where people got rid of the noise by installing aftermarket intakes. Take the filter out and you should see some bolts at the bottom. Tighten those up. That may help. I know that once I installed my Injen CAI, my engine rattle was gone.
jaymo
02-04-2005, 02:07 PM
Thanks for your input, but,I already have a cold air intake!...(AEM)....the "piping" vibrates around, which is understandable due to the engine. Now, this "shaking" of the "piping" is probably causing some other part of the engine or whatever to make a noise...That's what I'm after now....
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 02:22 PM
Strange. My problem went away when I installed the Injen intake. My pipe doesn't vibrate at all. That could really be taken the wrong way. Have you tried to tightening the vibra mounts? Did you even get vibra mounts? That may be your problem.
mattxb
02-04-2005, 02:22 PM
It's the intake. If you read all the posts on this thread, you will see where people got rid of the noise by installing aftermarket intakes. Take the filter out and you should see some bolts at the bottom. Tighten those up. That may help. I know that once I installed my Injen CAI, my engine rattle was gone.
I wish that was the case for me. I installed the Injen short ram system and the vibration still exists and varies in pitch and severity depending on how warm or cold it is out side. I know it sounds wierd, but I have been casing this mo fo for a while now and that seems to be a steady trend. I can deal with all the other rattles from the dash etc... but please, please, please fix this problem. Thats all I ask. :pray:
BangorXB
02-04-2005, 02:26 PM
maybe its due to the cai...seems to me the majority if the ppl that have posted here have the problem with a cai...like me for example...i could be wrong, but it looks like the guys that have a short ram intake arent experiencing this problem???
mike
mattxb
02-04-2005, 02:31 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:no:
BangorXB
02-04-2005, 02:34 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:no:
yeh i just re-read what u said...lol
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 02:39 PM
Hmmm. I have the Injen CAI... Not sure how many times i've said that in this thread. I had this problem with the stock intake. The problem went away with the Injen CAI. If you don't have vibra mounts for your CAI, then you are deffinately going to have some mad rattle. The stock intake may need to be tightened down as stated in an earlier post. The vibra mounts may need tightened on an aftermarket intake, or you may need to put some vibra mounts in if you don't have them.
mattxb
02-04-2005, 02:44 PM
Hmmm. I have the Injen CAI... Not sure how many times i've said that in this thread. I had this problem with the stock intake. The problem went away with the Injen CAI. If you don't have vibra mounts for your CAI, then you are deffinately going to have some mad rattle. The stock intake may need to be tightened down as stated in an earlier post. The vibra mounts may need tightened on an aftermarket intake, or you may need to put some vibra mounts in if you don't have them.
That would be a vibra mount. Yess sir. I have two on my intake, and no mo rattle. That may or may not fix your problem, but it's a step in the right direction.
disco
02-04-2005, 02:49 PM
Rhino, nobody is listening. The OEM box at the bottom rattles, if you remove the top and filter you will see three screws at the bottom, It seems the the OEM box does not sit right and creates a wobble effect low. Upgrade to a Injen SR/ CAI or whatever and it all goes away. Did for me! Besides once you realize those three big ugly black pieces are gone it looks so much better under the hood.
mattxb
02-04-2005, 02:50 PM
That would be a vibra mount. Yess sir. I have two on my intake, and no mo rattle. That may or may not fix your problem, but it's a step in the right direction.
I must admit that I did not install the short ram system myself. I have a back yard mechanic and he hooked me up. I just dropped it off and picked it up an hour later so I have no idea if it was even installed with the vibra mount. Thanks for the tip.
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 02:53 PM
Rhino, nobody is listening. The OEM box at the bottom rattles, if you remove the top and filter you will see three screws at the bottom, It seems the the OEM box does not sit right and creates a wobble effect low. Upgrade to a Injen SR/ CAI or whatever and it all goes away. Did for me! Besides once you realize those three big ugly black pieces are gone it looks so much better under the hood.
Totally agree witchya. I stated that same fact earlier, but then some peeps with CAI's where complaining, and I'm 90% sure that their problem is from the vibra mount.
BangorXB
02-04-2005, 02:54 PM
That would be a vibra mount. Yess sir. I have two on my intake, and no mo rattle. That may or may not fix your problem, but it's a step in the right direction.
I must admit that I did not install the short ram system myself. I have a back yard mechanic and he hooked me up. I just dropped it off and picked it up an hour later so I have no idea if it was even installed with the vibra mount. Thanks for the tip.
yeh same here...stupid ? but where can i get some of these vibra mounts??? if i do indeed need to get them
mattxb
02-04-2005, 02:55 PM
That would be a vibra mount. Yess sir. I have two on my intake, and no mo rattle. That may or may not fix your problem, but it's a step in the right direction.
I must admit that I did not install the short ram system myself. I have a back yard mechanic and he hooked me up. I just dropped it off and picked it up an hour later so I have no idea if it was even installed with the vibra mount. Thanks for the tip.
yeh same here...stupid ? but where can i get some of these vibra mounts??? if i do indeed need to get them
I went on the injen website and it says they are out of stock. 10 bucks for that thing.
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 02:57 PM
http://injenonline.com/cgi-bin/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=I&Category_Code=SI
You can get them here. They came with my intake, but I installed mine myself. They are like $10 each and you need 2 for a CAI and 1 for a short ram. At least for the Injen CAI anyways.[/quote]
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 03:06 PM
crazy price since you could make if for $0.50. I'd look at local hardware stores to see if you could fab something.
jaymo
02-04-2005, 03:23 PM
I don't believe I have them installed..I'll try to get them installed and see what happens.Thanks.
badbasic
02-04-2005, 03:52 PM
took the lower valance off to repaint due to curb scar( my wife denies any knowledge) and removed the grille inserts to have it all color matched. my rattle stopped. should i put this stuff back on? :rofl:
BangorXB
02-04-2005, 04:05 PM
aem states that all their intakes come with these...so im goin to check mine and the box and everything i have...if any1 has an aem intake and needs to get them the part # is 1228599 and they cost between $7-$9.
OMG!!!!! this proovs how much of machanics i don't know... i have the short ram and i instaled it my self but.... and this is a big butt.............. i had parts left over when i was done...... i folow the instructions step by step and it didi not even say or even menshion any thing aboout that ruber vibra thing... and it even came with one and i was like what the hell could this be for........ so i was like what ever and through it in a box of stuff..... but now that i here that they need to be instald on it to stop the vibrating where dose it go and how i have the short ram by the way... dos it go were the bolt gose to hold the intake pipe in place??? can any one help pleas..... i have one and have now clue were and how it gose... how sad is this... but hay i guess this is how u learn right by triel and eror... aslong as u don't blow your engion up..... :doh:
I don't know how yours looks, but mine (Injen CAI) had two. one in the battery and one at the base of the battery tray. I would imagine the short ram just has the one in the battery.
Pimpe_Ok
02-04-2005, 06:40 PM
:rofl: ya it only has one right next to the battery were that anonumus hole is it tells u to screw it there so i did... but how dose the rubber vibra thing go is it like a scew and the short ram tie down gose on it or what it did not even menchen any thing about it in the instructions..??
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 06:42 PM
Screw the vibra mount in to the hole on the battery. Remove the nut and fender washer. Put the intake on. put the fender washer and nut back on and tighten it down. viola.
peterbilt
02-04-2005, 07:07 PM
i don't know if anyone else has had this problem...
i really don't have any rattles (know on wood) but i did have a squeak from under the hood - close the door - squeak - roll over a bump - squeak - if the car was moving in anyway - squeak. it was driving me crazy.
i looked under the hood, but couldn't find anything. then i saw the four little rubber bumpers on top of the grill. for the hood. i added a little felt pad (for furniture) to each of the four spots on the hood.
no squeaks.
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 07:25 PM
i don't know if anyone else has had this problem...
i really don't have any rattles (know on wood) but i did have a squeak from under the hood - close the door - squeak - roll over a bump - squeak - if the car was moving in anyway - squeak. it was driving me crazy.
i looked under the hood, but couldn't find anything. then i saw the four little rubber bumpers on top of the grill. for the hood. i added a little felt pad (for furniture) to each of the four spots on the hood.
no squeaks.
strange. Also interresting.
Futureicon
02-04-2005, 07:51 PM
I think you guys are all going off in the wrong direction with the CAI vibramount theory. I've had my box for a year now, with 30k miles on it, and I've had this rattle from the start. I had it without my intake, and I still have it with my intake (Injen short ram) and I DID install the vibramounts. I've been watching for a fix to this problem from the start. I watched as the last bunch of guys thought they had it narrowed down to the hood bumpers. That went out the window when I put it in drive, cranked the E-brake, stepped out of the car and opened the hood "rattle rattle rattle". The Rattle is very elusive. it went completely away all summer, but returned with the cold weather. It only rattles in drive and when the car is at a stop. I haven't taken it in yet, because I've been lazily waiting for someone else's dealer to find a fix (there have been a BUNCH of threads based on this rattle) so I could just go in and tell mine how to fix it. It doesn't look like thats going to happen though. I think its time for all of us to contact Scion and get a fix for this thing. I just don't want to be led off down another "hood bump stop" theory that doesn't pan out. -Sam
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 08:04 PM
Like I said in my previous post. This may or may not fix the problem. All I know is it went away when I installed my CAI and one guy didn't have the vibra mounts on his.
Futureicon
02-04-2005, 08:24 PM
I hear you. It also may be that your rattle is a seperate issue. The problem that I and many others are having have all the same symptoms:
-Rattles only at stops while in drive.
-Loudness varies with temperature (the colder the louder)
-Sound seems to be coming from around the firewall, Tranny, or rear of the engine bay
-Sounds like a large metallic vibration
Someone mentioned in this thread that they had a noise repaired by a loose piece in the firewall. So far, that seems like the best lead I've heard. :pray:
BangorXB
02-04-2005, 08:24 PM
i never heard the noise before i installed my cai, but i wasnt listening for it either, plus i ususally turn my stereo up pretty loud so i couldnt hear it if i wanted to. so mine could have been doing it from the start, but i remember the night i got my car, 3 weeks ago, i drove from the dealership to my house w/o music on and i know i did not hear it that night.
Futureicon
02-04-2005, 08:30 PM
Like I said, the rattle is weird. It comes and goes. It might have developed after you installed your intake. At the same token it may be a coincidence and have nothing to do with the installation. :ponder:
rhinonabox
02-04-2005, 08:37 PM
I hear you. It also may be that your rattle is a seperate issue..
I won't argue with that. :silly:
Just thought I'd try to lend a hand since I don't seem to have this rattle anymore, if I ever really did.
mattxb
02-04-2005, 08:59 PM
I think you guys are all going off in the wrong direction with the CAI vibramount theory. I've had my box for a year now, with 30k miles on it, and I've had this rattle from the start. I had it without my intake, and I still have it with my intake (Injen short ram) and I DID install the vibramounts. I've been watching for a fix to this problem from the start. I watched as the last bunch of guys thought they had it narrowed down to the hood bumpers. That went out the window when I put it in drive, cranked the E-brake, stepped out of the car and opened the hood "rattle rattle rattle". The Rattle is very elusive. it went completely away all summer, but returned with the cold weather. It only rattles in drive and when the car is at a stop. I haven't taken it in yet, because I've been lazily waiting for someone else's dealer to find a fix (there have been a BUNCH of threads based on this rattle) so I could just go in and tell mine how to fix it. It doesn't look like thats going to happen though. I think its time for all of us to contact Scion and get a fix for this thing. I just don't want to be led off down another "hood bump stop" theory that doesn't pan out. -Sam
Sam, you are most certainly on point with your description... :clap:
I was unaware that this was such a wide spread phenomenon.
Futureicon
02-04-2005, 09:13 PM
Yeah. I've seen it repeatedly over the last year I've been visiting the forums and nobody has ever found a solid solution (that I am aware of). The problem seems to be widespread enough that a TSB should be issued, but first we need to do our part and make it OVERWHELMINGLY obvious to Scion that this is a real problem. I think I'm going to take some time and go through past threads, and try to collect up as much evidence as I can to bring this to the attention of Corporate. I don;t feel like jumping through hoops while the dealer repeatedly attempts to fix it.
BangorXB
02-04-2005, 11:13 PM
i dunno...im somewhat convinced mine is coming from the intake...2nite when i got home from work, i pulled the ebrake and popped the hood...i put some pressure on the intake tubing and the rattling stopped...let go and 2 seconds later it came back, not as loud...for a few more seconds anyway. put some more pressure on the intake tubing and it stopped again. when i have time when its light out again im goin to do some lookin into this.
Futureicon
02-04-2005, 11:24 PM
Hmm...good luck with that. Keep us up to date on your progress.
BangorXB
02-05-2005, 01:35 PM
MAYBE its just me...but i dont hear this noise when my car is first started up and i put it in gear and let it sit. anyone else notice this?
jaymo
02-07-2005, 08:02 PM
Well, after 3 days of chasing the "rattle" , we finally hit the jackpot!....."We" meaning the guy who installed it and myself.......we took it all apart and reassembled it again and the noise still was there!....Okay, so, he looked at it and looked at it , until finally, he says , "I got it" !...I said , "Got what?"...He said, "the noise, I know what it is"..I said "Okay, what is it?"....It seems that there is a metal bracket coming off the AEM CAI piping and there, towards the end of the bracket, , a small metal piece "clips" unto this bracket...Well, he says, get in the car and tell me if you hear the rattle, I said "YES!"..He said "Okay , how about now?"...I said "Hey, No,I don't!" Just what I thought all along , he says..I said "What?"..The clip!, the metal clip is vibrating against the bracket and making the noise. Metal to metal !...Oh, sure, I knew that all along!...The CAI vibration is causing this "clip" to make a rattling noise...Well, I am going to ride around for a couple of days and see if it indeed went away!...BTW, all he did was separate the 'Clip" and tie wrap it to the hose next to it, separating it from the original metal bracket. End of rattle....He also suggested I take the car in to the dealer and have them check the idling on it, since the air intake is now more...that's another chapter...
Futureicon
02-07-2005, 11:03 PM
MAYBE its just me...but i dont hear this noise when my car is first started up and i put it in gear and let it sit. anyone else notice this?
Definately. Mine never rattles when the engine is cold. It starts when the engine is warmed up after driving a bit.
Futureicon
02-07-2005, 11:08 PM
Well, after 3 days of chasing the "rattle" , we finally hit the jackpot!....."We" meaning the guy who installed it and myself.......we took it all apart and reassembled it again and the noise still was there!....Okay, so, he looked at it and looked at it , until finally, he says , "I got it" !...I said , "Got what?"...He said, "the noise, I know what it is"..I said "Okay, what is it?"....It seems that there is a metal bracket coming off the AEM CAI piping and there, towards the end of the bracket, , a small metal piece "clips" unto this bracket...Well, he says, get in the car and tell me if you hear the rattle, I said "YES!"..He said "Okay , how about now?"...I said "Hey, No,I don't!" Just what I thought all along , he says..I said "What?"..The clip!, the metal clip is vibrating against the bracket and making the noise. Metal to metal !...Oh, sure, I knew that all along!...The CAI vibration is causing this "clip" to make a rattling noise...Well, I am going to ride around for a couple of days and see if it indeed went away!...BTW, all he did was separate the 'Clip" and tie wrap it to the hose next to it, separating it from the original metal bracket. End of rattle....He also suggested I take the car in to the dealer and have them check the idling on it, since the air intake is now more...that's another chapter...
Congrats to you if it is in fact fixed. Unfortunately, I think your rattle must not be the same one that many of us are experiencing. My rattle is way to loud and deep to be a simple clip. (I also have an Injen short ram intake instead of the AEM that you have). I'm happy for you though. One less rattling Xb on the road.
jct
02-07-2005, 11:14 PM
the reasion why they can't find it cause there not in tune to "your" car i have a nice rattle in my dash some where and they couldn't locate it/find it :roll: but its there
only you are in tune with your car know all the up's and downs with it period...
Futureicon
02-07-2005, 11:24 PM
I agree, but this thread is mostly based on people who all have the exact rattle with the exact symptoms and truthfully, a deaf guy could be "in tune" with my rattle. He would just have to place his hand on my hood and feel the vibration. Thants how loud it is. :tap:
mattxb
02-15-2005, 08:10 PM
No new updates on this huh?
Damn it. :doh:
mattxb
02-17-2005, 07:04 PM
Alright, I work in Quincy, Ma. and it must be perfect rattle temperature. Today the under the hood rattle is more obnoxious then it ever has been. I figured I would head out to the parking lot on break and try to locate the source of the rattle. I drove the car around for a bit until it was completely warmed up. Came back, left it in drive with the E-brake on. I listed with the compressor on and off. It actually didn't seem to make a difference in my case, but anyway I will get to the point. Pop the hood and look at your coolant tank. You will see two pre cut holes and an "s" on what might be a part of the front bumper. I am not to mechanically inclined so pardon the use of my own terminology. Now wait until the rattle really starts to get loud and apply preasure around this area at the seam of where the grill touches the front bumper piece with the two pre cut holes and the "s". When I applied preasure in this area the rattle dissapeard, let go and the annoyance resumes. Check it out an let me know if you find this to hold true on your xB.
I have an 05 xB with the Injen Short Ram system.
I am going to attempt a ghetto diagram.
________E______________________X__________.
_______________________P_________________.
E - Engine
X - coolant tank
P - Where approx. to apply preasure
So, I called my dealership, mind you I have been there 3 times for this damn rattle and they just think I am crazy. "we don't hear anything, its probably normal" is the standard response. When i spoke to the service manager, he literally got ____ed at me. He said, you know we didn't hear it before so......... I told him it was really acting up today and that I wanted to come down so he could bare witness to this new information I have found. Of course he can't do it today, I have to wait until monday to head down there. My luck it won't be a perfect rattle temperature day. He did say he would run an auto that he has on the lot for comparison. I guess if that one does the same thing, then I am ____ out of luck.
Let me know.
Matt
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Futureicon
02-18-2005, 10:55 PM
Fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Here: http://scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=556284#556284
mattxb
03-04-2005, 09:56 PM
just an FYI. I put this in the other thread as well.
Alright, this was not the case with mine. Just for informative purposes.....
My rattle was coming from the clamp on the radiator hose. The part you squeeze to detach was facing upward. Metal on metal vibration. Gave it a 180 degree turn and I am all set. Its crazy how it can be something so simple. The service manager at my dealership said a couple people were complaing of the same thing so I actually went down there and showed one of the techs by putting it back, letting him listen then rotating to show him the world of difference. Hopefully the others go back to complain again so they can get this fixed.