I have seen TWO other xAs since I have owned the car (since July). TWO. I have seen like 20 xBs and maybe the same of tCs. Why aren't the xAs as popular? I think they are the best looking of the bunch, personally :)

Um, I say this as a person who has a xB, and is thinking of buying a xA, so don't bite my head off, but I think that (one of) the reasons is that the xA looks pretty much like other small cars, while the xB looks, well, not like other cars.

Also, the xB has more room.

Um, I say this as a person who has a xB, and is thinking of buying a xA, so don't bite my head off, but I think that (one of) the reasons is that the xA looks pretty much like other small cars, while the xB looks, well, not like other cars.

Also, the xB has more room.

i agree

i don't think this question can be answered. it's all a matter of preference.

i don't think this question can be answered. it's all a matter of preference.Exactly. It's all what you want. The xB is so different, that it turns some people off. That's also why so many people love it. I personally think the xA is the best looking of the bunch too, but that's my opinion. My wife's next car will probably be an xB. They both rock.

yeah.....i like xa's....i like xb's better......and tc's the best......IMO......the xa's do look alot like other cars....like the vibe....matrix....chevy aveo(just kidding xa guys)......prius......just not my style......and i REALLY LIKE the xb's.......cause....it's a short BOX.....not kinda boxy....it's a BOX......and the tC.....well...the factory 17's....all glass roof....and standard positioned gauges kinda sold me on this one.....

......but I think that (one of) the reasons is that the xA looks pretty much like other small cars, while the xB looks, well, not like other cars.

Also, the xB has more room.

Word!

I think that (one of) the reasons is that the xA looks pretty much like other small cars, while the xB looks, well, not like other cars.


:clap: Exactly, There are lots of hatchback's that look like the xA, Matrix, Civic, Focus, etc. The xB is more unique, thats why I bought one. That's just my opinion.

well... the xB is quirky. people like looking at it.
the xA is - umm - common. people don't really notice it.

but then again, what do i know?

I would have to agree. The xA is neat once you get to know
it, but it's not eye catching.

When I showed my boss the photo of the xB I was thinking
of getting, she said "that car is so you, it's unique and
different from the mainstream".

I think a lot of people feel the xA is just another budget
mini-car

I think all the scions are unique. I dont think the xA looks like any other car. It may be similiar in shape and size, but its definitely more stylish. I test drove one and liked it a lot. But the engine power was just not good enough. And I needed cruise control.

The xB takes a little getting use it. Its an aquired taste. Kinda like sushi. When I first laid eyes on the xB, i almost puked. It had to have been the ugliest of the uglys. But now it grew on me a little bit. Not that I would buy one, but it does look like a fun car with personality. Note: I am all for "different", but sometimes "different" is not necessarily a good thing.

tC is no doubt the cream of the crop.

aside from looks....

the xB has more safety features standard (for not much more money)

What safety features does the xB have that my xA doesn't have?

TRAC and VSC. I think the RS1 has them, but they're not even optional on the run of the mill xA.

we considered the xA, but the lack of cargo room turned us off along with the lack of trac and vsc. for very little more $$ you got all that in the xB.

the xA is - umm - common. people don't really notice it.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on that one. I have people stare at and ask me about my xA all the time.

yeah so do i, at red lights and when i'm driving i have people ask about my car all the time. the xa gets attention but just hasn't been out as long as the xb has yet. give it time guys and you'll see that it will become more popular, not as much as the other 2 but it will grow.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have it not popular then to have every pimple faced 16 year old driving the same car I have :P

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have it not popular then to have every pimple faced 16 year old driving the same car I have :PLOL...I was thinking that too. I like the fact that they're less common. I pulled into the local Wal-Mart the other night and there were 3 xB's in the parking lot. And those are just 3 that I spotted. There may have been more.

the xA is - umm - common. people don't really notice it.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on that one. I have people stare at and ask me about my xA all the time.

well - i stand corrected. like i said - what do i know?

don't get me wrong, i like 'em. esp. when dropped and rotating some nice rims. but you have to admit, the xB has a more distinct profile than the xA.

.. but you have to admit, the xB has a more distinct profile than the xA.Oh, absolutley. The xB is very distintive and unique...for now. In about three years, after the Honda Element has been around a while and after the Nissan Cube and the Ford Syn-Us come out, it will be a little different. Like I said, I love them both.

Well viva la differance ... i have a new XA and am loving it...
granted the XB is more recognizable at first glance ...

now off to see about getting it lowered ...

(black pearl XA - Kali Car)

When i parked my xA at the broadway pier for work some old guy was starring at my car (front, back and side) for a good 2-3 minutes..lol.

Anyways, For me I would want the xA to not be as popular and less driving on the road so it would have that rare factor to it.

When I showed my boss the photo of the xB I was thinking
of getting, she said "that car is so you, it's unique and
different from the mainstream".



that's just another way to say that "you are an OUTCAST" :P

While I was eating pho at a Vietnamese restuarant last week, a family of 5 started checking out my car when they were about to leave. It was pretty hilarious since we were eating near the window and saw the whole thing! They were rubbing and pointing at the Scion emblem and even left fingerprints on the window :nope:

People these days.. after about 4 minutes, they drove off in their BMW X5~ :P

i was going to get a box...........until i saw the RS 1.0 xa seatting in the back lot.

While I was eating pho at a Vietnamese restuarant last week, a family of 5 started checking out my car when they were about to leave. It was pretty hilarious since we were eating near the window and saw the whole thing! They were rubbing and pointing at the Scion emblem and even left fingerprints on the window :nope:

People these days.. after about 4 minutes, they drove off in their BMW X5~ :P

they were about to jack your emblem until they saw it says scion on it.

......but I think that (one of) the reasons is that the xA looks pretty much like other small cars, while the xB looks, well, not like other cars.

Also, the xB has more room.

Word!

Yes.

In addition the xB is the new version of the beetle. In that they were both completely different than other cars when they came out in the U.S.

the xa gets attention but just hasn't been out as long as the xb has yet.

two problems here....

A and B were released together....same amount of time....

and if they had not been put out at the same time, your 'yet' remark would never be met. one would always be older....but since they were released at the same time it does not matter....

Sprockett,

I know Midland is a ways out but you should come out to some of the Detroit area meets and you'll see at least 2 kick @$$ xA's... autopainter13 and I have the only 2 xA's in Scion Evolution Detroit.

Back to topic, since everybody is buying xB's and tC's it makes us xA owners stand out more... At the last meet we had about 20+ xB's, 20+ tC's and 3 xA's... Which cars do you think stood out more?

The xB's ARE different but when you get 20+ of them rolling down the express way... it becomes just another car... The xA IS the "different" scion...

~chris

Hope they keep selling xB's and TC's like hot cakes to support the Scion brand while us xA owners continue to enjoy our small numbers of our small and special cars. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, atleast we all love our Scions.

I think the problem with the xA is that people that are not concerned with cargo room would prefer to get a 2-door coupe. They see 5-door hatchbacks as family cars but the xA doesn't have enough room to be one. the xA might of sold more if it were a 3-door hatch like the ZX3

Because in the USA, we've got no cars that look like the xB, and lots of hatchbacks that look like the xA!

In Japan, they've got a lot more cars that look like the xB, and because people there go for 'cute' more, the xA is more popular over there (consistanly ranking higher on the top 100 lists of best selling cars each year vs. the xB).

So, maybe if you wait a few more years and the other car makers bring over their boxy look-alikes, maybe the xB won't be such a novelty anymore....

I don't want the xA to sell more. I want it to stay special. So far I've seen 3 xA's after a year that I've been with my car, about 20 xB's and 5 Tc's. So, who's special now?

......but I think that (one of) the reasons is that the xA looks pretty much like other small cars, while the xB looks, well, not like other cars.

Also, the xB has more room.

Word!

Yes.

In addition the xB is the new version of the beetle. In that they were both completely different than other cars when they came out in the U.S.Correct. :clap:

i love my xA i bought in march of 04 and had people askin what kind of car it is. i love the looks people give. i even had a dodge "pee-on" stop in traffic to get a look at it. i like how rare the xA's are and when i do spot one they always give me the "nod". the other boxes and tcs just look. its like a group within a group. i

I used to regret not getting the xb when i was looking at both cars(tc wasnt out then) but im happy that i got the xa because there are so few modified xa's and xb's and tc's are dime a dozen.

I've had my xA for nearly 4 months and people still stare when stopped at lights and I walk out of stores every once in a while and find people walking around my car. They all seem to ask "What is that?" or "Who makes that car?" I still admit XB's are for people that definitely don't want anything even remotely similar to another car. Too bad there's 30 of them driving around here now. I've seen maybe 4 other Xa's.

The xB is bigger, which is why us fat americans tend to prefer it. People want to be able to stretch out and stick all their crap in the back, or at least they want to option to do so, even if they never do.[/b]

I have seen TWO other xAs since I have owned the car (since July). TWO. I have seen like 20 xBs and maybe the same of tCs. Why aren't the xAs as popular? I think they are the best looking of the bunch, personally :)

Oh thats an easy one xA's suck. :rofl: No really they just look like every other import. The xB, and tC has its own style. Personaly the xA reminds me of a Geo Metro, and we all know how cool thouse are.

Wow, Drive an xA man they are fun little cars. They may not stand out as much as the box but that's obvious. To say it looks like a metro is wrong. I get plenty of people asking me about my car and others checking it out in parking lots and traffic. I will say most are female but I don't see how that's a bad thing. :P I will admit ive never driven / ridden in a tc or xB. Maybe next week ill go test drive them just for fun.

As far as being less popular that's fine 2 xA in a line 2 tc and 13 xB think about who stands out more? Each to there own but I saw the xA and never even really looked at the 2 others, the car just appealed to me that much. :bow:

everyday i see this, i don't know why people don't buy xa's.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/katch/scion/jonist1-24-05z.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/katch/scion/jonist1-24-05az.jpg

It's not that xA's are any less popular than xB's it's that anyone can buy an xB.
xA owners have to go through a thorough application process on several different factors including Coolness, attractiveness, and driving ability. Which is another reason they don't feel the need to saddle us with all that electronic driving assist crap.

:wink:

The xB is bigger, which is why us fat americans tend to prefer it. People want to be able to stretch out and stick all their crap in the back, or at least they want to option to do so, even if they never do.[/b]

True that man. Altough I agree that xB's do stand out. But you dont see many xA's around.... in my opinion people are buying the xB's because other people are driving them.

I heart my xA. :love: ..haha

I think it's a great little car.

its because its a trend. The dealers know Scions will have the demand while their new and as long as xB is the trend their rilloing with it. Sell as much as they can while its still a fad. As for me i went with an xA and put some money in it to be as unique as possible and i think when im done ill have the best Scion money can buy( granted im 10G's deep already with just a body and exhaust, still need turbo and aesthetic )

I have seen TWO other xAs since I have owned the car (since July). TWO. I have seen like 20 xBs and maybe the same of tCs. Why aren't the xAs as popular? I think they are the best looking of the bunch, personally :)
I too, like the xA but not as much as the BOX. If it weren't for the Matrix and Vibe I feel the popularity of the xA would be much stronger. Facts are facts, there are too many cars that look similar to the xA already on the road. People want to look different hence the reason for more xB's and tC's. SORRY :lalala:
PS I still have a 60 mile radius of being the ONLY Scion at all no xA's or tC's :clap:

I'll have to say I love the hell out of my xA. People around Dover ask me about it all the time. There's only two RS1s in this town that I know of (including mine) and these stick out like a sore thumb.

The IST is very unnoticeable in Japan, it took me a bit to recognize the car when I returned to the US. The bB however is VERY popular there. I've seen all sorts of bBs, lots of creativity to be spent on those. One of the things I like on the bB is the rear quarter windows. Pioneer's Carozerria line makes these clear plexi-glass type boxes with a speaker set-up that was made to fit in those windows, looks awesome.

I wanted a bB when I got here, but when I saw the xA RS1, I was sold.

The xB's ARE different but when you get 20+ of them rolling down the express way... it becomes just another car...

HAHA, you need to roll with us on a cruise sometime. When you see people faces and jaws dropping, etc, it's not cuz people are thinking "there goes another car" X 20...

It's not like ANY of the Scions are "a dime a dozen". Scion themselves had actually geared up to sell more xAs and were quite taken by surprise that the xBs were twice as popular. Had the not been a Scion brand, the xA would've made a good replacement for the Echo in the Toyota lineup. I think the Matrix is the main vehicle that makes the xA seem not quite as unique as it actually is. The xA has that quirky factor that would've sold well, but it's spotlight was stolen by the even more quirky xB. The xB was a drastic step away from what we were used to in the US and that's why it held more appeal, especially to take that quirkiness and crank it up a notch with some modding and tuning.

The xAs are less common which can be good and bad. Good in that you're unique, bad in that smaller market means less parts, less cheaper parts etc.

Of course different things appeal to different people, that's why they ask

What Moves YOU?

I wasn't implying that the xB's look like anything else at all, they are 100% unique... for now... Nissan will ruin that soon enough but that's for the xB forum...

what I meant is best illustrated in the picture below... not the best example but it's all I've got right now...

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/555/656312260401-med.jpg

You look at the pic and you think... "Wow, those cars are filthy... Winter in Michigan sucks!" :)

Then you look a little closer and think, "Hmm... xB, xB... OOOH! look at the xA in the middle there!, xB, xB, another xB...."

:silly:

I know what you mean. We have one OG xA . I call him our token xA. He keeps us being Nor-Cal Scion and not NCxBs. This was before the tCs release. We've got more of each now but the xB is just the perfect lump of clay to mold, IMO.

When I bought, I was turning in a leased Echo, so I thought the xA was too close to make a change. I would've just kept the Echo. Of course that was before I got the modding bug...

I think this is the pic you're looking for...

http://www.speakeasy.org/~mdhewitt/Applehill/images/PB143285.jpg

When my father-in-law heard I bought a Scion, he was very afraid I bought "that boxy looking piece of crap"... He said it would've been difficult for him to say "Nice car" if I pulled up in an xB. He really digs my xA as does everyone else I show it to. Many co-workers said almost the same thing as.... worried I bought the box.

So... while I personally have no problems with the xB, my family and friends totally love my ride and were relieved to see it.

Plus... having an RS 1.0 guarantees that it's unique. Only one other in the state right now....

As for standing out, I must admit that some have confused other little hatchbacks (Kia, Aveo, Mazda) as being a Scion. Someone told me they saw an xA that was yellow... and I couldn't convince him that wasn't possible without being a custom paint job.... so yes... they don't stand out as much as the box.... but I can't imagine an xB being as fun to drive as my 5-speed xA. Takes me back over 20 years ago when my first new car was a Pontiac Fiero... Funnest ride I've had since then and I'm glad I have it.

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/555/656312260401-med.jpg

You look at the pic and you think... "Wow, those cars are filthy... Winter in Michigan sucks!" :)

Then you look a little closer and think, "Hmm... xB, xB... OOOH! look at the xA in the middle there!, xB, xB, another xB...."

:silly:
You just had to go and remind me of how trashed my BCP Box got on that trip up there! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Come on Jeff... You miss it up here... washing your car every day cause they pave the roads in salt... The water freezing before you can dry it off... and you gotta love our pothole covered expressways...

I wanted to post the pictures I took of my rear window and your rear window with the WHAT MOVES YOU decals but they were on another PC and I couldn't get to them... They would have reiterated what Scionicman was saying...

xA "WHAT MOVES YOU"
xB "WHAT MOVES YOU"

~chris

When I first saw the XB i thought it was an interesting different looking car. Unlike anything I had seen before. I saw the XA shortly after and did not like it at all. As time passed, i still thought the XB was the better of the two until i saw the XA RS1.0 and then my opinion changed.

Not to ruffle any feathers of non RS owners but for me, I loved the sporty look of the RS. To be honest, I wouldn't have bought a stock XA and probably would have gone XB or TC with out a second guess. But that is the beauty of cars, you can keep them stock or customize them to suite your tastes.

If all XA's looked like the RS series, I think the XA popularity would be different.


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Come on Jeff... You miss it up here... washing your car every day cause they pave the roads in salt... The water freezing before you can dry it off... and you gotta love our pothole covered expressways...

I wanted to post the pictures I took of my rear window and your rear window with the WHAT MOVES YOU decals but they were on another PC and I couldn't get to them... They would have reiterated what Scionicman was saying...

xA "WHAT MOVES YOU"
xB "WHAT MOVES YOU"

~chris

:bow: AMEN BROTHER :bow:

Obviously different strokes for different folks...but if you don't dig the box, the xA has many things going for it...there's virtually no hood or trunk, so all its space is in the interior (not that it's as spacious as the xB) and it's easy to park.

It's not as distinctive/weird as the xB, but it does have a cool chunky look with its snub nose and swells around the wheels.

I've heard in Canada the Ist/xA is the Echo Wagon, which makes sense, there are a lot of similarities. I think the Echo is pretty cute actually.

I've heard in Canada the Ist/xA is the Echo Wagon, which makes sense, there are a lot of similarities. I think the Echo is pretty cute actually.
Actually Canada is getting the Vitz as a replacement for the outgoing Echo. Looks like the Aveo. :lalala:

I've seen 2 echo hatch backs in Windsor and they look SMALLER than an xA. If I remember correctly, the rear 1/4 window is not there.

it is all a metter of preference. i thought the xA and the xB were ugly. they not too bad anymore, especially when an xB has the two tone paint. but the xB does look different and catches the eye quicker. the xA reminds me of a football (don't ask). and your not the only one that thought the xA would be more popular. toyota thought the xA would be the best seller. maybe it's cause of that one lady on this site (c-g-), she owns one.

all in all who cares, rock your car. you think people in honda elements are asking this question.

Here is Fremont I am seeing a lot more xAs than xBs on the road. Today I saw 3-4 xAs and not a single xB. I keep wanting to honk and wave. I also saw a blue one, which is the first time i've seen one other than my own.

Perhaps its just that the xB looks like an SUV so I don't pay attention to it.

There is nothing more cooler than a xB convoy~ 8)

Have you guys noticed the comradery between xA and xB drivers? It's pretty cool when I I honk at xB's, they honk back! :D


With tC's they don't do anything other than stare the other way :P

I've noticed that lately too... tC owners don't like to associate with us on the road but the xB's are like our brothers/sisters... Although a girl in a tC drove up next to me on the expressway and beeped the other day... that was the first tC to do that, they usually just give the "Do I know you?" look... if they look at all... :loser: 's

Although a girl in a tC drove up next to me on the expressway and beeped the other day...
NAAAAAH, She was checkin YOU out :rofl: They always come out of the woodwork once your going to get married :lalala: :rofl:

Also, the xB has more room.

less cargo room in the back tho

Also, the xB has more room.

less cargo room in the back tho
WRONG! :doh: According to the Scion book xA=11.7 cu. ft. xB=21.2 cu.ft. :lalala:

Although a girl in a tC drove up next to me on the expressway and beeped the other day...
NAAAAAH, She was checkin YOU out :rofl: They always come out of the woodwork once your going to get married :lalala: :rofl:

That's what I was thinking... <sarcasm> she wasn't beeping at me cause of the Scion... she HAD to be honking and my hotness... Plus I was flexing my left arm at the time showing off my rippling muscles... </sarcasm>
:rofl:

Sorry Tamago but the xB has WAY more room than the xA...

Also, the xB has more room.

less cargo room in the back tho
WRONG! :doh: According to the Scion book xA=11.7 cu. ft. xB=21.2 cu.ft. :lalala:

actual room behind the seat is what i'm talking about. the book is wrong.

i've measured.. the xA "trunk" is deeper by a few inches than the xB.

Also, the xB has more room.

less cargo room in the back tho
WRONG! :doh: According to the Scion book xA=11.7 cu. ft. xB=21.2 cu.ft. :lalala:

actual room behind the seat is what i'm talking about. the book is wrong.

i've measured.. the xA "trunk" is deeper by a few inches than the xB.
Yeah, I think Tamago is right. But overall, the xB can hold more 10 lbs. bags of rice. And apparently, xB owners like that.

either way, i'll own you ALL in cargo space soon :):)

Cargo room is the WHOLE area behind the seats. Roof area also, that's where the xA comes up short. pun intended arr arr

So you gotta carry stuff that stacks!!!!!!!!!!!

Or tall square stuff that don't fit in the xA. Regardless the xB ownes the xA when the rear seats are folded. I think they make a trailer hitch for the xA don't they. :rofl:

Unfortunately, a trailer hitch on an xA can only tow a Radio Flyer wagon... not much else. :silly:

I've driven all 3 Scions and I must say that in my humble opinion, the tC has the most seating space, xB the most storage and xA the most style... :P

Humble?? :eyebrow: You"re just prejudice :P LMAO :rofl:

I wonder how long it will be before someone takes the back half of an xB or xA and makes a trailer to match their's :ponder: :clap:

how bout a nose/rear chop with the front doors in place, and the engine bay as a storage area!

Humble?? :eyebrow: You"re just prejudice :P LMAO :rofl:

Me? prejudice? Never... not in a million years... I'm as open minded as anybody to the fact that the xA has the most style of the bunch.. :wink:

I read somewhere that they couldn't mount any hitches onto the xA's or xB's... I don't know... I don't have anything to tow so what do I know... nuthin' that's what.

I read somewhere on this forum of a rear trailer hitch for the xB. I think.
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I was right and wrong. Rear hitch available for both xA and xB. See here:

http://www.hitch-web.com/vmodel.asp?YID=87&MKID=65&CID=3&OID=8&Y=2005&MK=Scion

how bout a nose/rear chop with the front doors in place, and the engine bay as a storage area!
That would work also,but the rear half already has the tails and more storage. I'm picturing an xB towing another xB back half with the seat removed and it's own sound system and other goodies. Or even 2 front halves attatched and made into an all wheel drive with 2 complete drivetrains. I think that would be quick with like 216 stock HP. Sounds like a project for Monster Garage!!! :clap: :clap:

:no: I was little surprised to see this thread. Every dealer I've seen has plenty of xBs on the lot, but can't keep xAs in stock. That is a pretty clear indication that the xB is not as popular.

That's not necessarily a bad thing. The xB is more avant-garde, from a design perspective. Plus, xB owners tend to be a little more fanatical about their cars, since they are so unique. It is no accident that xBs outnumber xAs at Scion Exposed events, since xB owners are more willing to devote time and money to modify their cars.

:no: I was little surprised to see this thread. Every dealer I've seen has plenty of xBs on the lot, but can't keep xAs in stock. That is a pretty clear indication that the xB is not as popular.

That's not necessarily a bad thing. The xB is more avant-garde, from a design perspective. Plus, xB owners tend to be a little more fanatical about their cars, since they are so unique. It is no accident that xBs outnumber xAs at Scion Exposed events, since xB owners are more willing to devote time and money to modify their cars.
IOW your saying xA owners don't feel their cars are worthy of mods or they aren't the mod type. I think it's the latter.

:no: I was little surprised to see this thread. Every dealer I've seen has plenty of xBs on the lot, but can't keep xAs in stock. That is a pretty clear indication that the xB is not as popular.

That's not necessarily a bad thing. The xB is more avant-garde, from a design perspective. Plus, xB owners tend to be a little more fanatical about their cars, since they are so unique. It is no accident that xBs outnumber xAs at Scion Exposed events, since xB owners are more willing to devote time and money to modify their cars.

man Otto... where do I start...

Unfortunatley xB's are out selling the xA's by far... the reason the lots have more xB's than xA's is because the xA's are harder to move so the dealers only keep a few on hand where as the xB's move like hotcakes so having a rotating supply of 20 is no problem cause they move so quickly...

To say that xA'ers aren't into modding as much as the xB'ers is just plain wrong... Check the registry... http://www.scionlife.com/registry/?model=xA&color=&aspiration=&county=&state=&sortby=username

We mod... ohh yes we mod...

Chris, I think he meant to say that xA owners are more likely to get them for everyday use and not for the modability. Whereas most people get a box with the sole purpose of modding them. Modability is that even a word? LOL

Even then I don't agree with that... Sure there are those xA owners who keep everything stock and do no mods but there are xB owners like that too...

The reason there are more "Modded" xB's than xA's is because there are more xB's in the market... not because xA'ers don't mod or don't have the time/money there's just fewer xA's out there to mod... That's why the aftermarket for xB's is so huge... there's so many of them... whereas the xA's aren't as common so the aftermarket demand isn't as great... I think that if you looked at the registry (which isn't working like it used to) and looked at the percentages of total # xB's vs mods & total # xA's vs mods the percentages would be almost the same... Looking at just the first page of the registry, 70% xB'ers mod & 47% xA'ers mod. And that is just the first page... The xA numbers aren't as great as the xB's but once again there are MORE xB's so you see page after page of xB mods...

This thread has the potential to get very ugly.

All three models have their positive features, but what it comes down to is, "Which one do you like and Which one fits your lifestyle the Best?"

No, it won't get "ugly" it's just that this is basically a thread about what everybodies opinion is...

It was stated earlier... "WHAT MOVES YOU" for some it's the xA, others the xB or tC...

Everything else is just friendly banter and debate... :gun:

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I liked the way the xa looked from the outside but the inside was too echoish. It turned me right off. So if the interior looked better i would probally be pimping an xa.
O well i heart my box

Chris is absolutly right, we jus be pla'n each other. Now I see you get what I meant. It's a per capita thang. I think chicks are less likely to mod so if more chicks have xA's and they don't mod em that counts toward what I was say'n. LOL

xA owns you at the track ;)

xA owns you at the track ;)
I sure hope so, considering it is areodynamic and weighs less :blah:

I think the trade off for STYLE is worth it :P

I hate repeating myself Jeff....


... I'm as open minded as anybody to the fact that the xA has the most style of the bunch.. :wink:


:P

BTW, I'm adding "Modability" to the Chris-ictionary...

I hate repeating myself Jeff....


... I'm as open minded as anybody to the fact that the xA has the most style of the bunch.. :wink:


You gotta give us something :pray: We are owned at the track, get less MPG and are as aerodynamic as a brick. What's left other than style :doh:
:P

BTW, I'm adding "Modability" to the Chris-ictionary... Hey, it sounds like a word, doesn't it??? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:no: I was little surprised to see this thread. Every dealer I've seen has plenty of xBs on the lot, but can't keep xAs in stock. That is a pretty clear indication that the xB is not as popular.

That's not necessarily a bad thing. The xB is more avant-garde, from a design perspective. Plus, xB owners tend to be a little more fanatical about their cars, since they are so unique. It is no accident that xBs outnumber xAs at Scion Exposed events, since xB owners are more willing to devote time and money to modify their cars.

man Otto... where do I start...

Unfortunatley xB's are out selling the xA's by far... the reason the lots have more xB's than xA's is because the xA's are harder to move so the dealers only keep a few on hand where as the xB's move like hotcakes so having a rotating supply of 20 is no problem cause they move so quickly...

To say that xA'ers aren't into modding as much as the xB'ers is just plain wrong... Check the registry... http://www.scionlife.com/registry/?model=xA&color=&aspiration=&county=&state=&sortby=username

We mod... ohh yes we mod...

Well, I just had a look at the current Toyota sales figures and you are correct. However, in the DC area the reverse is the case, according to Alexandria Scion. They couldn't move the xB like they could the xA. The manager said he heard the xB was doing very well on the West Coast. I'd like to see a regional breakdown, if one exists.

Here are the figures, from Toyota's press release---
SCION xA 1,730 429 336.9 1,730 429 336.9
SCION xB 3,377 989 269.9 3,377 989 269.9
SCION tC 3,833 0 -- 3,833 0 --

The tC is kicking all of our butts.

tC.... out selling us.... :flame:

:)

Since it was mentioned earlier that the xA's & xB's are like brothers... we can just add our numbers together... and now we are creaming the tC sales numbers...

That's much better... we're kicking the tC's butt!!! :relief:

Now we just have to let the auto industry know to combine those figures and we're all good.

They are on the same platform so if that's the case you must include the vitz and the echos also. It's not even close! LOL

They are on the same platform so if that's the case you must include the vitz and the echos also. It's not even close! LOL

But we're not insecure! Nonononono.... :crazy:

They are on the same platform so if that's the case you must include the vitz and the echos also. It's not even close! LOL

But we're not insecure! Nonononono.... :crazy:
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tC drivers on the whole I think enjoy trying to do deny their car is a Scion because they don't wish to be associated with xA/xB.

It's like lexus owners denying it's a toyota.

tC is no doubt the cream of the crop.

If by cream of the crop, you mean "most Camry-like" and least interesting, then I agree. :P

tC is no doubt the cream of the crop.

If by cream of the crop, you mean "most Camry-like" and least interesting, then I agree. :P
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I think the main reasons why the xB is more popular in America are pretty obvious. One of the biggest is interior room. Americans hate small cars, nearly every one here buys the biggest they can afford, not the biggest that meets their needs.

Personally, when I looked at the cars, the xA's looks appealed to me more, but I sat in an xB first. When I sat in the xA, I felt claustrophobic immediately and the back seats were a joke IMO. I need to be able to use my rear seats to carry adults frequently and i like my passengers to be comfortable and not to struggle. The back seat alone ruled out the xA for me and I suspect that is the issue for many people.

Add to that Americans don't like hatchbacks generally, the xB is a hatch, but it is more wagon-like. It also looks like a truck/SUV which Im sure increases its appeal to a lot of people.

xA is more of a city car for someone who thinks of the VW Golf as a "midsized" car. That doesn't fit the profile of most Americans.

Only people who LIKE small cars will buy an xA, whereas people who would not even normally consider a small car are open to buying an xB because the interior room is on par with a Ford Explorer or whatever else people buy by default.

Yeah, what he said.

Small-car stigma. It doesn't deserve it, not by a long shot because it has quality and features that are unheard of for the price, but a lot of people wouldn't even consider it long enough to get to know it because it is so small.

A tC is not exactly large, but it makes the xA look tiny.

And an xB is unique enough to be cool, but still really functional.

An xA, apart from the quality and features, only has good mileage going for it. But the public perception is that high-mileage can be found in ANY car that small.

And a lot of people are too scared of getting in a wreck with an SUV or a semi-truck to drive something that small. Never mind that it is solidly built, the mindset is that big crumple zones are needed...

Long story short it has more to do with perceptions than facts.

And an xB is unique enough to be cool, but still really functional.



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Small-car stigma. It doesn't deserve it, not by a long shot because it has quality and features that are unheard of for the price, but a lot of people wouldn't even consider it long enough to get to know it because it is so small.

A tC is not exactly large, but it makes the xA look tiny.

And an xB is unique enough to be cool, but still really functional.

An xA, apart from the quality and features, only has good mileage going for it. But the public perception is that high-mileage can be found in ANY car that small.

And a lot of people are too scared of getting in a wreck with an SUV or a semi-truck to drive something that small. Never mind that it is solidly built, the mindset is that big crumple zones are needed...

Long story short it has more to do with perceptions than facts.


I agree. I think the small car phobia is a uniquely American problem though. I suspect its rooted partially in the fear of being crushed by an absent minded soccer mom in an Excursion. Of course there is also the American "bigger is better" attitude held by morons that equate the size of their car with the size of their genitalia. No place is that more evident than Phoenix, the capital of jacked up full-size SUVs driven by small-peckered Bush voters. :eyebrow:

I agree about the unique/cool thing. Actually I'd say one of the things I like about the xB is that the styling is functional FIRST, in other words it's not weird for weirdness sake like so many cars today, it's shape is pure function and practicality, it just happens to look cool.

reasons why I bought the xB over the xA

xB has: Keyless entry, VSC and TRAC standard.

Also the xB has more headroom, more rear seat room, and a longer wheelbase....

What he said!

xB's better... blah, blah, blah ----- :blah:

xB has more room... blah, blah, blah ----- :blah:

xB is cooler... blah, blah, blah ----- :blah:

I hate you all.... :evil:

You xB'ers have worn out your welcome here in xA-land, now go back to your own forum! :gun:


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Yea, U GO NOW.... U BEEN HERE 4 HOUR.... Keep flamin and the mods will want to shut us down again. LMAO

your just jealous :loser:

Keep flamin and the mods will want to shut us down again.

:nails:

Yeah and then after we post the "What happend to..." thread, they'll put it back and say, "Hey dummies! It's right here!"... again

:rofl:

I still swear the cheap mods thread was gone! I'll stick to that till the end.

You know I have nuthin but luv for the xB'ers... :love:

I have the xa and I have to agree that there are more of the xb. I live in aberdeen maryland and I am starting to think that i am the only one with the silver streak xa because I have had mine for almost a year now and I have not seen one like it yet . It would be nice to meet someone in harford county with xa.

xB's better... blah, blah, blah ----- :blah:

xB has more room... blah, blah, blah ----- :blah:

xB is cooler... blah, blah, blah ----- :blah:

I hate you all.... :evil:

You xB'ers have worn out your welcome here in xA-land, now go back to your own forum! :gun:


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xB isn't better or cooler, it's just different.

If I didn't carry people so often, I might have gotten an xA. I actually prefer the aerodynamic look of the xA to the blockiness of my xB a bit.