becareful peeps don't let this happen to you a few weeks ago i gave my box a test drive i mean a real test drive i race my buddy who drives a honda civic didn't win the race but i was sure close to his rear, anyway after the race i had all kinda lights poping up on my dash....the vsc,trac light and the engine light took the car to the dealer and they told me that they would have to replace the tranny,it's an auto by the way..... sucks now i'm driving around in a car the everone else mom and sister drives i sure miss my box,the dealer call me and told me it's going to be ready on 2/7/05 i guess i'll have to cruise in this corolla for the weekend...SUCKSS... :tap:

I'm hoping this civic your racing is a DX, or at least a LX. First of all, I own a xB btw, I dont think the scion was made to race. Add that, you have an automatic tranny. Anyway, good luck w/ur tranny, and I guess good advice for those w/auto. :|

takumijr killed his auto tranny in his xa. maybe they are weak. well that or he just ran over a bear , lol , i kid i kid, u know we love u tak , lol.

becareful peeps don't let this happen to you a few weeks ago i gave my box a test drive i mean a real test drive i race my buddy who drives a honda civic didn't win the race but i was sure close to his rear, anyway after the race i had all kinda lights poping up on my dash....the vsc,trac light and the engine light took the car to the dealer and they told me that they would have to replace the tranny,it's an auto by the way..... sucks now i'm driving around in a car the everone else mom and sister drives i sure miss my box,the dealer call me and told me it's going to be ready on 2/7/05 i guess i'll have to cruise in this corolla for the weekend...SUCKSS... :tap:

Good job... admiting to racing your car, then breaking it and posting about it on a PUBLIC message board. Great way to get your waranty repair denied :loser:

Good job... admiting to racing your car, then breaking it and posting about it on a PUBLIC message board. Great way to get your waranty repair denied :loser:
I don't see how that's possible and he dosen't have any personal info listed. Some people are just too damn sensitive :loser:

Ohh yeah, Im real worried that my tranny is weak, becuse you raced the ____ out of yours!

What were doing? redlining it then dropping it in to drive or something?

hmm i guess zesta is a good lil boy and obey the traffic rules and would never drive his box hard oh and another thing did the warranty say if you race your box it's not covered maybe i missed that one.... :rofl:

hmm i guess zesta is a good lil boy and obey the traffic rules and would never drive his box hard oh and another thing did the warranty say if you race your box it's not covered maybe i missed that one.... :rofl:

The waranty covers manufacturer defects only... racing the car and braking the tranny is NOT a manufacturer's defect... it is user induced damage :no:

hmm i guess zesta is a good lil boy and obey the traffic rules and would never drive his box hard oh and another thing did the warranty say if you race your box it's not covered maybe i missed that one.... :rofl:

A lot of manufacturers void your warranty if you participate in any racing, whether it's drag, autocross, or on the track.

If you are the kind of driver that is gonna push the auto tranny hard, you might consider the auto trans cooler by Blitz. It's around $380.
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becareful peeps don't let this happen to you a few weeks ago i gave my box a test drive i mean a real test drive i race my buddy who drives a honda civic didn't win the race but i was sure close to his rear, anyway after the race i had all kinda lights poping up on my dash....the vsc,trac light and the engine light took the car to the dealer and they told me that they would have to replace the tranny,it's an auto by the way..... sucks now i'm driving around in a car the everone else mom and sister drives i sure miss my box,the dealer call me and told me it's going to be ready on 2/7/05 i guess i'll have to cruise in this corolla for the weekend...SUCKSS... :tap:

here dude, i think you lost these .......................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


when i first read it i thought you won...'my buddy who drives a honda civic didn't win the race'

the point i was getting is at some point in an vehicle life there is a good chance that a driver or owner might push there car to it's limit it don't have to be a drag race,i know that the xb was not built for that but at the same time if i push it to 110 mph and the engine blow up no matter what it's still covered under warranty, i don't think toyota would give a car and say please don't pass 55 mph or else it's you void the warranty.....hmm maybe i should take this supercharger and intake back for credit..

I remeber a thread a few (5-8) months back where people with Man trannies were having concerns. More or less indicated in their opinion, that the xb shouldn't have a man tranny, and that in JPN xb's are generally only auto's. Guess a few of them had tranny failures within a few thousand miles. I haven't heard any negative feedback regarding the auto before...regardless, congrats on getting a new tranny for free.

oh, and street racing is stupid.

I remeber a thread a few (5-8) months back where people with Man trannies were having concerns. More or less indicated in their opinion, that the xb shouldn't have a man tranny, and that in JPN xb's are generally only auto's.

I'd assume most of the bBs are caught in bumper to bumper traffic anyway, herego the reason for the auto..? :P

Well, unless he was doing neutral drops or towing a big trailer, nothing you do to an automatic transmission can be considered abuse. It's automatic, so it shouldn't be able to overstress itself.

I remeber a thread a few (5-8) months back where people with Man trannies were having concerns. More or less indicated in their opinion, that the xb shouldn't have a man tranny, and that in JPN xb's are generally only auto's. Guess a few of them had tranny failures within a few thousand miles. I haven't heard any negative feedback regarding the auto before...regardless, congrats on getting a new tranny for free.

oh, and street racing is stupid.

Street racing or not, driving within a cars limits shouldn't cause failure.

Anyhow, who lost a manual tranny? I've yet to hear about any? Frankly, I'm tired of hearing these posts of people that "heard" someone say something broke. Theres a ton of misinformation on these forums because of posts like this.

I've yet to break my tranny, and if anyone drives hard... it's me.

I'm about to buy an XB with the manual trans. I'm just tired of the automatics and want to do some fun shifting again. WHo has the manual, who likes them and does anyone wish they would have gotten an automatic ?

Thanks All.....

i think some people in here don't understand my point,we all know that the xb is not built for speed but if you do speed and break anything in the process you covered no matter what speeding it's not abuse in any form or matter,i'm not the type of person that drag race and yes i do think drag racing is dumb as hell i seen too many lives lost by teens drag racing,it was just a one time thing on a back road with no traffic just me and my big mouth friend who talks crap about my xb i guess i just had to show him that my car is not that slow as it looks..anyway speding does not void your warranty..

Well, related to multiple posts, I'll reply my 2 cents.

I just bought an manual xB and got it yesterday (hooray!). Ive always driven automatics but I learned how to maneuver a standard transmission recently and now I'm putting my skills to the test. I'm pretty good, almost like a pro after just a day. Anyway I was on a very steep hill practicing starting into 1st with my mom this morning and after about 5 minutes of back and forth and somewhat abusing the engine it started to smell pretty bad of plastic or rubber or soemthing coming from the air vents. I wonder if I was actually messing up the engine? Or is it just because its new (only 200 miles) and i was running it hard?

Also so far I'm very glad I got a manual and I think its so much morefun to drive. But I dont do any extensive commutes or long highway driving, just zipping around the city.

704 - that smell could be the freshness factor, air filter, etc. I still get that from time to time and I've got 5k miles.
Dass - the MT xB is mad fun.. if you're missing manual, it's good.. plus, if you shift well, you'll get pretty good acceleration (even for 108 hp).
Finally, squarepants.. hate to tell ya, but UnFocused before had a point. Did you redline it at first? Smoke the tires? Go past something like 110 MPH? Maybe your tranny's not shot completely, but the mechanics probably would have to replace it down the road now anyway.

704...thats one way to kill a clutch.....

that smell was your clutch buring up and the flywheel glazing over due to too much heat....

you need to break in a clutch easy for the first 500 miles so this won't happen...i predict a new clutch in the future...

never redline my box and never burn tires i like my box will never do such a thing,i guess the only thing i did wrong was to floor it i did get up to about 90 mph think that's kinda weird for a tranny to fail at that speed,i did had enough life left to ride to the dealership....

704...thats one way to kill a clutch.....

that smell was your clutch buring up and the flywheel glazing over due to too much heat....

you need to break in a clutch easy for the first 500 miles so this won't happen...i predict a new clutch in the future...

Good eye dg.. didn't notice the part about burning rubber/plastic.. :doh:
If it was that faint ozone-like air.. but no, burning smell bad.. I hope you're not "a pro" at shifting like some people who thought the same..
That grinding? Oh that's just me shifting.. yeah, it's just a little tricky sometimes..

704...thats one way to kill a clutch.....

that smell was your clutch buring up and the flywheel glazing over due to too much heat....

you need to break in a clutch easy for the first 500 miles so this won't happen...i predict a new clutch in the future...

Good eye dg.. didn't notice the part about burning rubber/plastic.. :doh:
If it was that faint ozone-like air.. but no, burning smell bad.. I hope you're not "a pro" at shifting like some people who thought the same..
That grinding? Oh that's just me shifting.. yeah, it's just a little tricky sometimes..

Hmm well that sucks if you guys are right... :doh: I feel pretty bad if I messed up my car the first day I had it, but I live in a really hilly city and I had to learn how to move that thing. Would it be covered under waranty or is it considered "driver inflicted" abuse..? What happens when it fails? thanks...

i dont know how you can race an automatic xB against anything....i test drove one, it was a joke. at 20mph, i floored it, wow, all revs and a very slow takeoff. it didn't even slam my head back at all.
then i test drove a tC....nice

i dont know how you can race an automatic xB against anything....i test drove one, it was a joke. at 20mph, i floored it, wow, all revs and a very slow takeoff. it didn't even slam my head back at all.
then i test drove a tC....nice

i know its like racing and automatic celica gts or auto matrix xrs....
just enjoy your good gas mileage and make it look nice

if you blow it up, deny having abused it...
the dealer might still give you crap about it.

if you feel like you must learn the clutch some more, do one luanch, drive around for two or three mins and try again. this will give the heat some time to cool off.

Remember to keep it like a pendulum.. one foot up while the other down.
If you have burnt the clutch sometimes, just think of this.. you need to find the point where the clutch engages. Push it in and slowly lift til you can hear it ready to stall.
Living in a hilly place can be a pain.. but just try to fully stop and roll back a bit while traffic behind you slows down.
Sometimes they'll not inch up.. but sometimes they'll get on yer bumper.

The parking brake lever is handy to the right hand to hold a vehicle on a grade and relieve the requirement to use the foot brake. That frees both feet to operate the clutch and fuel pedals.

hmm maybe they add some more hp on the 2005 and forget to mention it..lol.. but my box move when i floor it thats when i had the stock wheels on never try it with these heavy hp wheels..

My xB's mannual transmission died after about 15-16k miles on it. The dealer said the bearings went bad, so rather than just replacing those, they replaced the whole thing. It took them like 2 1/2 weeks to do it because they told me the transmission was on back order. I've put about 10K miles on the new one and I haven't had any problems with it.

okay my $.02....
Driving your car fast does not void a warranty!.....based on that logic if floored his car to merge in traffic it voids his warranty....SLOW DOWN YOU'LL VOID YOUR WARRANTY :rofl: :rofl: :blah: .....that could leed to all kinds of legal issues if it were so....abusive thngs like nuetral drops well that should void it
To insure longer life of a tranny you go with a trans coolere and a true synthetic trans fluid like Amsoil, Redline, Royal Purple, Mobil !
I have a 5spd and it kills the auto I recomend it

I remeber a thread a few (5-8) months back where people with Man trannies were having concerns. More or less indicated in their opinion, that the xb shouldn't have a man tranny, and that in JPN xb's are generally only auto's. Guess a few of them had tranny failures within a few thousand miles. I haven't heard any negative feedback regarding the auto before...regardless, congrats on getting a new tranny for free.

oh, and street racing is stupid.

Street racing or not, driving within a cars limits shouldn't cause failure.

Anyhow, who lost a manual tranny? I've yet to hear about any? Frankly, I'm tired of hearing these posts of people that "heard" someone say something broke. Theres a ton of misinformation on these forums because of posts like this.

I've yet to break my tranny, and if anyone drives hard... it's me.
ask squirrel , his failed on him , i think the biggest problem with manual trans in these cars are the slipping clutches , i know mine slips like a mofo. and i've been driving stick my whole life and know how to shift . and drive easily/slowly more than 70% of the time.

I am glad that I got the MT..... I was cruising along about 80 in fifth when a civic decided to pass me..........as he went by he looked over and smiled.........as soon as he got just past me I dropped into 4th and left him sitting there........I guess my performance goodies helped some, but that was with heavy 18" wheels. Go buy an intake and an Optima yellow top and try again..

I remeber a thread a few (5-8) months back where people with Man trannies were having concerns. More or less indicated in their opinion, that the xb shouldn't have a man tranny, and that in JPN xb's are generally only auto's. Guess a few of them had tranny failures within a few thousand miles. I haven't heard any negative feedback regarding the auto before...regardless, congrats on getting a new tranny for free.

oh, and street racing is stupid.

Street racing or not, driving within a cars limits shouldn't cause failure.

Anyhow, who lost a manual tranny? I've yet to hear about any? Frankly, I'm tired of hearing these posts of people that "heard" someone say something broke. Theres a ton of misinformation on these forums because of posts like this.

I've yet to break my tranny, and if anyone drives hard... it's me.

Squirrel broke a manual tranny. Just cuz you didn't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

my xb is still in the shop i called the dealer on 2/7/05 and they told me that it will be ready the next day i even got a call from scion asking me if my car was ready,the only scary thing is that the loaner car the dealer gave me is a corolla s just what i needed to get a ticket and kick my friend butt with his super charge civic..... :come:

Hello, I'm looking into purchasing a used XB with a manual trans.
Clutch might be abused. Is a clutch covered on warranty ?

don't have the answer to that one but my friend who works at the dealer told me that they have a way of knowing if an xb has been overrev or misused in anyway that would void the warranty... :eyebrow:

Generally, a clutch is seen as a wear item. Unless it is faulty by design or manufacture, they probably won't cover it. That's just part of the cost of owning a manual...

And shouldn't the title of this thread be "MY xB may have a weak tranny" Just because a few out of a few thousand have a problem doesn't exactly raise a big red flag to me. Especially since I drive mine that way every day...

i dont know how you can race an automatic xB against anything....i test drove one, it was a joke. at 20mph, i floored it, wow, all revs and a very slow takeoff. it didn't even slam my head back at all.
then i test drove a tC....nice

When you test drive an economy box with 108 hp and and automatic transmission, what do you expect? :roll:

-THE DON

I expect exactly what I got and rarely get passed.

I remeber a thread a few (5-8) months back where people with Man trannies were having concerns. More or less indicated in their opinion, that the xb shouldn't have a man tranny, and that in JPN xb's are generally only auto's. Guess a few of them had tranny failures within a few thousand miles. I haven't heard any negative feedback regarding the auto before...regardless, congrats on getting a new tranny for free.

oh, and street racing is stupid.

Street racing or not, driving within a cars limits shouldn't cause failure.

Anyhow, who lost a manual tranny? I've yet to hear about any? Frankly, I'm tired of hearing these posts of people that "heard" someone say something broke. Theres a ton of misinformation on these forums because of posts like this.

I've yet to break my tranny, and if anyone drives hard... it's me.
ask squirrel , his failed on him , i think the biggest problem with manual trans in these cars are the slipping clutches , i know mine slips like a mofo. and i've been driving stick my whole life and know how to shift . and drive easily/slowly more than 70% of the time.
yep been driving and racing for 20yrs and I grind sometimes and I never do that

I had an AT XB for a year and 18K miles with no issues. Very smooth.

My mom had an AT drop out of her rental Echo though. I don't know the mileage, age, or how it was driven (rental gives me a clue though), but it did make me raise an eyebrow since the engine tranny was the same as my XB. I was hoping if it did happen, it would happen within the 3 yr warranty.