So my tenzo from NLMotoring (HIYA!) just got here (along with the broadway mirror) and im freakin excited. I won't be installing it tonight due to work and school. so by tomorrow or thursday I should have videos and pictures throughout the whole install.
SO in the meantime, please post any questions or things your would like to see in the videos and pics. whether its questions about my other mods i have done or anything at all. I will video tape the majority of the install and pics along the way. Im also fixing my rear door which i forogot to install correctly after i added new speakers. and the my side vent mod should be happening then as well.
Before watching the vids, i was having a really bad day. and i think that hampered my progress with this install. and maybe made things a lil more complicated than it had to be. So thats is why they are so short. However, it was pretty good.
Vid 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq5rN6c73uc
Vid 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP9DYgcQQGg
Vid 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXP4btyUh7g
Vid 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqy7RoSgfFU
Vid 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uYmZbo96pk
So fitment wasn't an issue except for trying to fit the upper pipe part into that small ___ space. i don't think much could be changed to do that...
btw i have my side vents open right now. no plastic cover cause im modding the leds on them. u think having those covered will really affect the performance of the filter?
AAG
10-20-2009, 08:28 PM
I'd like to see how bad the fitment is. I hear tenzo isn't that great in that department...
alaskanpeas
10-20-2009, 10:11 PM
i know how you feel, when i installed my fujita cold air i fell in love with my car all over again. love to hear that whistle at 3K rpm.
elwaylite
10-20-2009, 10:43 PM
I ordered my TRD vent for the bumper today. Gonna order the AEM in a few weeks, because the 13hp gain in the magazine test is good enough for me.
DJ_FroZone
10-21-2009, 02:03 AM
I ordered my TRD vent for the bumper today. Gonna order the AEM in a few weeks, because the 13hp gain in the magazine test is good enough for me.
untill i see that, im gonna call bull. 13 is quite a lot for a 2-300 part. more like 4-5 is more likely same as a injen, tenzo, trd, orr the fujita. unless you have something else like a super or u use it SR for turbo....unless im horrible wrong which i may be
thanks Fred, thats the one. Ive purchased a budget intake before and the filtration sucked and it did not fit right.
aem is a pricey but nice unit with a non oiled filter.
DJ_FroZone
10-21-2009, 09:19 AM
i wont be able to dyno mine. i try to post MPG numbers here. I aksed a few members here who have tenzo on there xb said fitment was ok. we shall see!
elwaylite
10-21-2009, 10:51 AM
Im not knocking it, im sure it is ok, because plenty of people have one. I prefer the AEM filter, and have seen the magazine numbers, so I'm feeling its worth the price.
If I did get the Tenzo, I would add the AEM filter to it, like some on here have done.
DJ_FroZone
10-21-2009, 11:27 AM
^^^yea thats next maybe in two paychecks or so. actuall i might wait till my next oil change when im supposed to clean it and just do it then.
PDX_xB
10-21-2009, 10:57 PM
My TRD CAI was delivered about an hour ago. I hope to complete the install in the next couple days.
BTW, the filter that comes with the TRD CAI is made by AEM.
PDX_xB
DJ_FroZone
10-22-2009, 01:33 AM
So just finished uploading vids and pics now. interesting install.
AAG
10-25-2009, 04:28 PM
The only thing that worries me about these cheap CAIs are what it does to the A/F ratio. The fujita one is known to throw it off really bad (on several makes and models). I doubt Tenzo has the same R&D as the AEM/Trd/Injen and I personally wouldnt run it without dynoing to make sure the A/F is right.
renegade4x4
10-25-2009, 05:14 PM
The only thing that worries me about these cheap CAIs are what it does to the A/F ratio. The fujita one is known to throw it off really bad (on several makes and models). I doubt Tenzo has the same R&D as the AEM/Trd/Injen and I personally wouldnt run it without dynoing to make sure the A/F is right.
The Mazda 3's had this problem with the first gen fujita because where the MAF connected the diameter was too big making the velocity seem slower causing it to think less air and leaning out the fuel mixture and throwing a cel. All of the intakes for our xb that I've seen have that area recessed so the MAF reads correctly. But as said before a CAI is a tube that connects to a filter in an area where fresh air is. The tenzo is very similar in design to the other true CAIs. I have had it installed for over a year with no problems. Fitment was great as well. However I elected to add a performance filter.
Chris
PDX_xB
10-25-2009, 05:56 PM
Just an added tip to anyone installing a CAI (any brand). If you are also considering fog lights, do them at the same time.
I installed the TRD CAI last Wednesday night. I then did the TRD fog lights on Thursday night. It wasn't until I read the fog light installation instructions that I realized you need to remove the entire front fascia to install the fog lights.
Well, once I got my front fascia off (pretty easy, actually), there sat my newly installed TRD CAI filter box right out in the open. It would have been faster and easier to install with the fascia off than jacking up the car, removing the driver's side wheel, and reaching up through the fender well to install the filter box.
Oh well, neither install was very difficult, but combining them would have been faster and easier than doing them separately.
PDX_xB
DJ_FroZone
10-25-2009, 05:58 PM
yea so far no issues at all! im going to be gettin the AEM dry flow filter after my next oil change. and im ordering the hyrdosheild from NL next week. along with the air freshners. dope stuff!
yirichie
10-25-2009, 06:28 PM
LMAO your fourth video cracked me up. sounds good!
ScionFred
10-25-2009, 06:28 PM
The only thing that worries me about these cheap CAIs are what it does to the A/F ratio. The fujita one is known to throw it off really bad (on several makes and models). I doubt Tenzo has the same R&D as the AEM/Trd/Injen and I personally wouldnt run it without dynoing to make sure the A/F is right.
AFR shouldn't change at all in closed loop because the AFR/O2 sensor will override the MAF to stay at 14.7:1 AFR. It could have some effect on open loop AFR but unless there was a significant change in air volume/velocity seen by the MAF, the AFR change should be very minimal. IMO, most of the AFR changes seen in testing is due to not giving the ECU time to adjust to slightly altered MAF signal voltage. Simply clearing the short term ECU data by disconnecting the battery is not enough.
As long as the MAF tube diameter is close to stock (2.75" ID) and you don't get a MAF related CEL (P0101,0102,0103), any CAI should work fine. Some will be better than others but not by much. I ran a modified $80 TC CAI for 20,000 miles and it worked great. The Tenzo CAI looks a lot better than what I had.
DJ_FroZone
10-26-2009, 03:16 PM
Thanks scion fred!
So far no issues. workingly wonderfully. Gotta love it!
ScionFred
10-26-2009, 03:47 PM
Thank you for the great vids.
FWIW, I used the cheap oiled cotton gauze filter that came with my $80 TC CAI for all of those 20k miles and never had any dirty MAF or water issues. However, it is a cheap filter and after 20k miles I wouldn't reinstall it. It has metal end caps that are quite rusted after 2 years and like all cotton gauze filters, it doesn't filter as well as AEM or paper.
Enjoy the Tenzo!
Pasquale
10-27-2009, 02:02 AM
if you completely remove the battery its not hard at all to get the filter and second half of the intake down into the front of the bumper.
DJ_FroZone
10-27-2009, 02:41 AM
^^^^ SO TRUE
elwaylite
10-27-2009, 11:23 AM
Looks good. My TRD CAI is supposed to arrive today. I've read the instructions a few times, and it looks like pulling the fender well out a bit and removing the battery are really gonna help.
PDX_xB
10-27-2009, 04:08 PM
Looks good. My TRD CAI is supposed to arrive today. I've read the instructions a few times, and it looks like pulling the fender well out a bit and removing the battery are really gonna help.
Removing the battery will make it much easier and just takes a few seconds.
After that, you kind of have your choice. The instructions recommend jacking up the front end, removing the driver side wheel, and pulling pack the splash guards in the wheel well. That works. It's what I did and honestly, it's not too bad.
However, had I realized I needed to remove the front bumper to install the fog lights (which I did the next night), I would have done the CAI install at the same time I had the front bumper off to install the fog lights. With the battery removed and the front bumper off, you could assemble the CAI on the bench and just drop it in place.
Unless you're removing the front bumper anyway for something else (like installing fog lights), it's probably not really worth it. It really comes down to:
put front end up on jack stands, remove driver side wheel, pull back splash guards, install CAI from below
or
remove front grill and front bumper, install CAI from above
Either way will get you there, and it's actually a pretty easy install no matter which route you choose.
PDX_xB
elwaylite
10-27-2009, 04:13 PM
How involved is the bumper removal? I guess I'll go read the fog light install sheet now.
ScionFred
10-27-2009, 05:17 PM
How involved is the bumper removal? I guess I'll go read the fog light install sheet now.
It's not too bad, I've had mine off 3 times now. A few tips from my experience:
1) If you have a cordless drill and a 1/4" socket drive bit, it helps a lot when removing all those 10mm fasteners along the bottom. You'll need to jack up the front for clearance.
2) Wear gloves when pulling the sides out of their locking clips. I cut myself the first 2 times.
3) Leave the top 2 bolts until last. This will prevent the cover from falling off and getting scratched.
4) Plan ahead and do everything at once so you don't have to remove it again. Fogs, CAI, blackout, new grill, etc.
5) The TRD fog light instructions are very useful the first time you do this.
elwaylite
10-27-2009, 05:29 PM
Thanks Fred.
PDX_xB
10-27-2009, 06:54 PM
1) If you have a cordless drill and a 1/4" socket drive bit, it helps a lot when removing all those 10mm fasteners along the bottom. You'll need to jack up the front for clearance.
I didn't jack mine up. I removed the eight 10mm bolts around the bottom by hand. There is plenty of clearance for a standard socket wrench. I have a ratcheting screwdriver that uses interchangable bits. So, I used it with a 10mm scoket and spun those guys right out. Probably not quite as fast as a cordless drill, but it saved me the time of putting the car up on jack stands.
3) Leave the top 2 bolts until last. This will prevent the cover from falling off and getting scratched.
Definitely. These are also the first two I put back in. Also, spread something soft (blanket, rugs, etc.) on the floor under the bumper to sit it down on when you get it off.
4) Plan ahead and do everything at once so you don't have to remove it again. Fogs, CAI, blackout, new grill, etc.
This is the best advice. If I would have read ahead, I would have done the fog lights and CAI at the same time. But I didn't read the fog light installation instructions until after I had the CAI and strut brace in. The instructions for the CAI specifically mention that you should install it before the strut brace, but don't make any mention of the fog lights. Poor planning on my part, but all-in-all both installations were pretty easy.
5) The TRD fog light instructions are very useful the first time you do this.
Definitely. All the TRD installation instructions are well written and illustrated. The fog light instructions give detailed steps for removing the bumper.
As I said earlier, removing the bumper isn't necessary to install the CAI. However, if you need to remove the bumper for something else anway, it makes installing the CAI even easier.
BTW, for those installing the fog lights, this little right angle racheting screwdriver (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92630) combined with a Torx #30 bit will make your life easier. The Torx bits that come with it (#15, #20) aren't big enough, but I had one on hand already. I picked one of these up at my local Harbor Freight store on sale for $2.49 a couple weeks ago. It's a handy item to have for those hard to reach places.