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Dolemite98199
02-07-2005, 07:34 PM
Wax time.

I have a Black Sand xB. I am not to experienced in waxing cars. I went and bought a can of Turtle Wax, but somebody told me that was bad. Is there a certain kind of car wax I should use? I looked through my manuel, didn't see a certain typse I should use.


What do you use?

Soon2HaveAbox
02-07-2005, 07:40 PM
I use the meguiars 3 step process. Paint cleaner, polish , and wax. That is the best thing in my opinion. I have also tried the Shining Monkey stuff, but it didn't seem to last as long as the meguiars although while it did last, it was very good as well.

Dolemite98199
02-07-2005, 07:43 PM
Right on, I heard good things about Meguiars. I didn't realize how in detail wax is, but I understand, if it is not right, it could screw up your paint. I din't know if paint color had anything to do with it, or what type of metal the car was, etc. I will check out Meguiars.

Newtmaker
02-07-2005, 07:48 PM
I have tried Meguiars, Mothers, and Liquid Gold. Can't tell any difference between them. Will probably stick with the Meguiars from now on. That is what several of the local detail shops around here use.

Lonely_Raven
02-07-2005, 08:14 PM
If you can get past the photo of the goofy blond with the huge rack, there is lots of
good info on this page:

Autopia Car Detailing How To (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/how-to.html)

I've done some car shows with the Porsche club, and many of the guys there
prefer the Zymol. That's probably what I'm going with, though there are many
other decent brands out there.

Meguiars is OK, but they use too much petrolium based mixes when we really need
pure wax based mixes. So the Meguiars doesn't work as long or protect as well.

Here is another good article compairing a couple of brands. Not enough in
my opinion, but still a good start: http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html

With our newer cars using Japanese paint and clear coats, a good washing and
waxing with QUALITY carnuba was is really all we need. Hopefully you guys haven't
taken your cars through the cheap automatix washes or let someone hand wash
with dish detergent or something like that...otherwise you probably have some
nasty swirls and such.

Once the weather is nice I was planning on putting together a photo how to for these
forums, since I have a decent amount of experience from my Porsche days.

Here is some 32 year old paint on this old Porsche. I've not even polished it in this
photo, this was just a good washing and detailing.

http://www.jagdpanther.com/~lraven/Porsche2.JPG

Dolemite98199
02-07-2005, 08:33 PM
Thanks for the imput Lonely Raven, and the photos.

Lonely_Raven
02-07-2005, 09:11 PM
I hope it helped some. I know it's a LOT reading and a lot
of work and a goodly amount of money, but it's worth the
effort for dark colors like your BSP and my BOP.

I'll have more writeups as the weather permits.

Max2k
02-07-2005, 09:25 PM
Apparently Zaino brothers products are the bomb diggity. I'm planning on picking up a set of their products in a few months when it's warm enough to do the car.

02-07-2005, 09:50 PM
Apparently Zaino brothers products are the bomb diggity. I'm planning on picking up a set of their products in a few months when it's warm enough to do the car.

Zainos is the best, hands down. I've used Meguiars and Eagle1 products and they're okay, but for a great shine and smooth finish, IMHO nothing beats Zaino Bros. clay (z18) and their Z5 wax (removes swirl marks and light scratches) http://www.zainostore.com/. For a black paint job (or any color for that matter, just shows up moreso on dark vehicles), improper drying will leave swirl marks in the paint.

I have found that Zainos goes on easily and wipes right off without any hard buffing and rubbing to remove the product. When I get my xB, I'm going to ask that the dealership not dry the car after they wash it. I suspect that was the original source of all swirl marks on my previously owned cars. Check out the link above and pics from their photo gallery - they've got a top quality product.

Fujiz_xb
02-08-2005, 12:32 AM
shining monkey

its_ikon
02-08-2005, 03:58 AM
no recent post on this

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=383&highlight=

flowmini98
02-08-2005, 04:29 AM
meguirs gold class PASTE is very good for dark colors.

Cobraguy23
02-08-2005, 05:21 AM
Hmmmm-- Good WAX I like that Permaplate that is good WAX but you only get it from a Dealer ship an they wax 500$ to do your whole car inside an out-- I use to work at a deatilshop for 2 years an I like Carnuba Wax it is good an last 3 months-- I try to wax my car every 2 months-- I have some products my buddy owns a Detail shop an I get all my stuff from him-- I detail cars on the side at my house just for some poeple I know-- I keep my car nice all the time


sean

hotbox05
02-08-2005, 08:39 AM
meguirs gold class PASTE is very good for dark colors.
i use the regualr liquid gold class woul my blue onyx pearl benefit from using the paste? i usually dis paste cuz it's a pain and doesnt last as long but it's that much better?

its_ikon
02-08-2005, 07:29 PM
i have started using shining monkey products and they are great. the d-spec kit will have everything covered for what you need.

Lonely_Raven
02-08-2005, 07:30 PM
Liquid wax doesn't have as much carnuba as a true
paste wax. The higher the quality the wax, the more
carnuba is in it, and the less petrolium and other junk you
*don't* want in your paint! Honestly, most liquid wax
could hardly be called wax.

Zainos is good stuff, but I wouldn't put it as the *best*.

There are waxes out there that people pay $300+ for
an 8 Ounce jar. Stupid IMHO, but it's the most highly
refined, cleanest, well mixed wax there is.

Lots of good stuff out there, and if you are serious about waxing your car, you should
be spending $40 for a quality wax. There are some decent $20 wax, but I think
the breaking point for really nice wax is more like $40 and up.

After that, the proper cleaning materials, espeically microfiber cloth and wash
mits are a really big deal.

xnevergiveinx
02-09-2005, 04:47 AM
did you get turtle wax ultra gloss? that stuff is amazing! i love it, i'll use it till i get some zaino wax

pmpnxb
02-09-2005, 06:17 AM
I use ziano brothers for detailing, and nxt for maintience waxing.. nxt is by far the easiest to take off and leaves a great gloss... ziano works great for scratchs and polishing up the clear coat...