Okay,
We were talking 20's on the XB without major problems. We are talking minor adjustmentswith less that 2 hours from 15's to cruisin on Dubs. Right?... Right! Firstly, most people try to get cheap when rims are purchased. "How cheap can I get it done?" Right? Right, Secondly, I will be the first to admit that style weighs heavily when purchase decisions are being made. Most never concern themselves with fitment. They just say I heard someone put 20's on an XB or I saw some on an XB so that automatically means to most that all 20's will fit. Not true.
To important factors are the key elements to fitment.
1. Width of rim
2 Height of tire
Given the proper elements to above factors and the SCI is the limit.

Yesterday I posted that I have installed 20"S on my new XB (less than 7 miles on odometer) (less than 4 hours after putting the first key in the ignition) and that I would provide pictures of this tomorrow and I must say there were many non-believers.
Some posters suggesting B.S. and others saying these statements would dis other XB owners from the side of the big island. I must say however, that we here in Florida land have only had the opportunity to have XB for less than 24 hours and the Pacific Rim chaps have been tooling around on 19's for months with no idea. Don't get mad-I am just stating what you aready know to be the truth. How many have 20's and if there are so many why have you kept it such a secret?
My buddy installed his 20"s today and I had the opportunity to capture some pics of the install so that we all could understand minor adjustments as opposed to major mods.
I decided not to put all the pics on this post so that the readers don't become bottom feeders and go to the pics without value of this post.



http://bobhowley.net/pics/car%20pics/Scion%20pics/XB%20at%20the%20pier.jpg

i feel ya on this post. I dont see 20's being a problem as long as the setup is correct.

damn...that's nice.

Any problems with tire rub?

Also... Florida in the hizzouse...

That's a big ___ pic of some big ___ rims - niiiice!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p9e1b41c866f4da6931a687bd2cf9eb5a/f9c6913c.jpg

you sed you were gunna have a 2" drop. Is that stock height?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pf33e847234186b16c3b8c98ea26e06af/f9c69250.jpg

too bling bling for me but looks nice tho and i like the tail lights too

weren't you spose to drop it today? both of those are stock

When you copy and paste the address for the pics and put it in the [ img ] brackets, leave off the last ".org.jpg" and it'll work.

Thank you, dub box
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p858f114ced82d6b941527757c204d0b0/f9c69266.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pb96d4ee54a35f1c11f3ff2b35905aea1/f9c69328.jpg

weren't you spose to drop it today? both of those are stock
I didn't get a chance the headlamp conversion was a slow go. The plug end didn't match and the harnesses had to be modified. The headlamp install was actually harder than putting 20's on theXB.

How did you do that?

Looks good bro. But not my style. Damn you must have some deep pockets for some TWANKIES 7 miles later after the purchase. But MAD props.

I start to feel mini H2s from those pics

Throw a nice body kit on that (like Red Genie's :wink: ) and it wont need a drop... 8)

he is going to do a 2" drop

it looks weak at stock height

Throw a nice body kit on that (like Red Genie's :wink: ) and it wont need a drop... 8)
do u have pics?

I start to feel mini H2s from those pics
do you have body kit pics?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pf33e847234186b16c3b8c98ea26e06af/f9c69250.jpg

twins!

he is going to do a 2" drop

it looks weak at stock height

werd.

I start to feel mini H2s from those pics

click,click bang,bang...werd.

I start to feel mini H2s from those pics
do you have body kit pics?

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www.rgsnd.com

Or check it out here
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5961&highlight=

like to see it on 20's with better looking rims.... Those are not my particular style... Cool nonetheless..

I must say however, that we here in Florida land have only had the opportunity to have XB for less than 24 hours and the Pacific Rim chaps have been tooling around on 19's for months with no idea. Don't get mad-I am just stating what you aready know to be the truth.


Ah hem, it's by choice most peeps out here didn't go wih 20s. Most people feel that 20s on xB is not proportionate to the size of the car + many feel that Chrome Dubs are played out.

To state that we've been "tooling around on 19's for months with no idea is pretty low" blow. This type of negative comments is not needed in this forum and it only creates feud between scion owners.

We always gives props where props is due. Your xBs look sick with 20s but everybody has different style out there and we shouldn't promote negative comments just because of difference in style and preference.

The bottom line is, we all have in one thing in common here... "We enjoy our SCIONS".

Yes, 20's will fit with the correct rim width, offset, tire size and some pounding in the inner front fender. As for the rear, the only mod you have to do to make it fit is to cut the little piece of the plastic from the inner plastic splash guard.

BTW, you didn't post the wheel and tire specs.... Please share for those who opt to roll on dubs.

I must say however, that we here in Florida land have only had the opportunity to have XB for less than 24 hours and the Pacific Rim chaps have been tooling around on 19's for months with no idea. Don't get mad-I am just stating what you aready know to be the truth.


Ah hem, it's by choice most peeps out here didn't go wih 20s. Most people feel that 20s on xB is not proportionate to the size of the car + many feel that Chrome Dubs are played out.

To state that we've been "tooling around on 19's for months with no idea is pretty low" blow. This type of negative comments is not needed in this forum and it only creates feud between scion owners.

We always gives props where props is due. Your xBs look sick with 20s but everybody has different style out there and we shouldn't promote negative comments just because of difference in style and preference.

The bottom line is, we all have in one thing in common here... "We enjoy our SCIONS".

Wow, that was the first sensible comeback I have seen in weeks!!! Well said!


Doc

I must say however, that we here in Florida land have only had the opportunity to have XB for less than 24 hours and the Pacific Rim chaps have been tooling around on 19's for months with no idea. Don't get mad-I am just stating what you aready know to be the truth.


Ah hem, it's by choice most peeps out here didn't go wih 20s. Most people feel that 20s on xB is not proportionate to the size of the car + many feel that Chrome Dubs are played out.

To state that we've been "tooling around on 19's for months with no idea is pretty low" blow. This type of negative comments is not needed in this forum and it only creates feud between scion owners.

We always gives props where props is due. Your xBs look sick with 20s but everybody has different style out there and we shouldn't promote negative comments just because of difference in style and preference.

The bottom line is, we all have in one thing in common here... "We enjoy our SCIONS".

Yes, 20's will fit with the correct rim width, offset, tire size and some pounding in the inner front fender. As for the rear, the only mod you have to do to make it fit is to cut the little piece of the plastic from the inner plastic splash guard.

BTW, you didn't post the wheel and tire specs.... Please share for those who opt to roll on dubs.

Word man...this is the first cool car forum I have found on the net. No need to incite reactions from anyone. I'm not a dub fan for these cars, but it looks good. Especially on the ThunderCloud!

They look O.K., but not spectacular :roll: Chrome rims don't do it for me. They belong on big SUV's.

I must say however, that we here in Florida land have only had the opportunity to have XB for less than 24 hours and the Pacific Rim chaps have been tooling around on 19's for months with no idea. Don't get mad-I am just stating what you aready know to be the truth.


Ah hem, it's by choice most peeps out here didn't go wih 20s. Most people feel that 20s on xB is not proportionate to the size of the car + many feel that Chrome Dubs are played out.

To state that we've been "tooling around on 19's for months with no idea is pretty low" blow. This type of negative comments is not needed in this forum and it only creates feud between scion owners.

We always gives props where props is due. Your xBs look sick with 20s but everybody has different style out there and we shouldn't promote negative comments just because of difference in style and preference.

The bottom line is, we all have in one thing in common here... "We enjoy our SCIONS".

Wow, that was the first sensible comeback I have seen in weeks!!! Well said!


Doc

damn these dubs is off the heezie! You brothers are stepping it up for real. Can ya all drop us a line,a nd let us know what size exactly you are rollin' on? Tires too. You have got the dope stee low. Now tint it up, and thoes things will be off the hook!

well said scionara, we are here to share ideas and help each other out. SO what if I am rolling on 18s, I would still try to help you out on an exhaust question and not bag on you because you are going for the 4X4 look. Thing is keep things cool around here , because thats what the site is about. 8)

what wheels are thoughs on the xb in the very first pic?

I must say however, that we here in Florida land have only had the opportunity to have XB for less than 24 hours and the Pacific Rim chaps have been tooling around on 19's for months with no idea.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p17b19c5acea21d4f57173f0371054d39/f9c69143.jpg

Hey man. A statement like that assumes that all west coast scion owners running 19's are only running them either because they weren't aware they could run 20's, or were too affraid to try. Did it ever occur to you that some people made a conscious decision not to run 20's simply because they didn't want to? Come on dude.


Peace,
m@

You box looks good....

IMO 20's on a scion is just over kill... I'd even say 19s are overkill...but whatever brings owners smiles every morning its up to you.

What's with the west coast comment?? Totally uncalled for.

First good job on getting the wheels to fit well, but while you are all about your "dubs" many us are still trying to figure out what size and offset we can get in there... While your 20s are bling bling and probably cost you a pretty penny, i'm going for a more custom look, instead of a wheel that is readily available to the public. And if for those that think 20s required some major modification to get it to fit wait until you see the size i've decided on.

Let's just say this M@ is running 17x8.5 + 16mm in the front and 17x9 +17 in the rear. He has be rolling on those rims since early January and still hasn't gotten the fit perfect. Wait til the 18x8.5 +18mm for the front and 18x9.5 + 18 in the rear come in. Then we can talk about who's raising the bar. Unlike 20's which I could go out and buy somewhere that carries 4x100 20 inch rims, these rims will be custom built in japan then shipped overseas.

Now let's talk custom.

And here the pic of a BADD ___ WHEEL CHOICE.. M@ hope you dont mind..




http://www.thescionlab.com/images/My_xB/Euroline_Ns_02.jpg

Really I think every one is going a little bit crazy off who's wheels are the biggest and who's wheels are harder to get on. It really doesnt matter who's wheels fit easier or who's are bigger. All that matters is that you are happy with your set up and enjoy how your car looks. Why is everyone trying to be so much better then everyone else. Me myself I would like a set of 19"s that are easy to put on with no mods needed. Making it harder to get on doesnt make it better but if your happy then coo, its your money. Theres no need to talk mess about anyone else and there set up. Just let people be, every one is there own.

I hope this stops. :roll:

i hope it does too :wink:

And i apologize for the above remark.

I agree, whatever floats your boat. Just don't go downing us west coasters yeah?

first, we all enjoy the Scion. second, we all don't prefer the same style or look. third, we are individuals. sure we have a common bond, we like the Scion, but don't "stir the pot" because we aren't running on "dubs". I'm running 17s cuz its what I want, you're running "dubs" cuz its what YOU want.

some run lighting in their interiors cuz its what they want, I'm not running lights. some have the SPFR intake, some have the AEM intake, and some have the Injen intake. some have the Tanabe axleback, some have the JIC, some have 5zigen, and some are stock. some are running springs, and some are running coilovers.

its easy to voice your opinion on the internet when no one can hear your tone of voice or see your facial expression. some on this site may know you, and others don't. we're all just here to help each other out, and not to be putting each other down.

personally, you can call me whatever you want cuz I've heard just about all of it, and it doesn't phase me. maybe its cuz I'm too old, or maybe its just cuz its not my style to "clown".

i'll give props to the guy who can put 20's on with a 2" drop and only has rubbing problems with hard u turns.. the rims look nice, but in the bay area there are 6 scions that are rolling around since nov with 20's on them.... 4 of which were done at my shop another at a friends shop and im not sure of the last but i've seen the car.. as far as smaller wheels, it is everyones choice, i bought 19's cause in july when i bought the car that was the only thing available, but now im having some custom made by hre dif offsets and widths but like anything its a process thats taking some time.... so once again the car looks great but until its lowered alot you really havent done anything new..... and dont get on other people because they like the 15-17" look its there car and i dont always agree with what they have put on there car's, but they drive it i dont..............................

I must say everyones comments after my last were well put. We are all here because we like the car itself not because we only like the surtain way one person has it. Lets just relax and enjoy are time on this forum. Now can any one tell me what wheels thoughs are above LoL :D

IMO, the 20's look too big...definately the H2 look. :shock:

That's why I love this forum so much....they are mainly full of very sensible and considerate peeps. I'm afraid for the fact that when it goes nation wide we are going to get more "I'm better then you" comments on here then it'll turn into every other forum out there.

I must say everyones comments after my last were well put. We are all here because we like the car itself not because we only like the surtain way one person has it. Lets just relax and enjoy are time on this forum. Now can any one tell me what wheels thoughs are above LoL :D

X2o/ Trick
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p0cbbf3274049e067b2a6a3d725327836/f9c69324.jpg

And here the pic of a BADD ___ WHEEL CHOICE.. M@ hope you dont mind..




http://www.thescionlab.com/images/My_xB/Euroline_Ns_02.jpg

now there is some Lip! :mrgreen:

o.k. that is cool dub box, i give you props, BUT, in your first post you were talking about the width and dimensions and talking about people keeping secrets on this stuff and not telling you how to do it, THEN you went way off the mark of telling the secret by complaining about the posters that don't believe you,

please tell us , if it is so easy to do, what the wheel and tire dimensions are so that we(typically me) can put dubs on our(mine) xb , you will allways be known as the first on scionlife on dubs! but don't let the haters get to you so much you forget the important things(me and my dubs)

like i said before i give you props, good job man
BTW how is the ride of that box?

o.k. that is cool dub box, i give you props, BUT, in your first post you were talking about the width and dimensions and talking about people keeping secrets on this stuff and not telling you how to do it, THEN you went way off the mark of telling the secret by complaining about the posters that don't believe you,

please tell us , if it is so easy to do, what the wheel and tire dimensions are so that we(typically me) can put dubs on our(mine) xb , you will allways be known as the first on scionlife on dubs! but don't let the haters get to you so much you forget the important things(me and my dubs)

like i said before i give you props, good job man
BTW how is the ride of that box?

<grin> There is no secret. In my first post I merely said that I put 20's on without major mods and only requiring minor adjustments. And that I had no pictures until the next day. Then came the nay sayers-and that's OK, the nay-sayers were that way before they ever purchased an XB. There are negative people everywhere.

And there will be negatives to this post too, I'm sure.

If one were to read all the posts from the very beginning to the end one would laugh. The story kept growing away from what I had said. With that said, let's continue here with what you asked about.

I/m sure that XB owners have figured out that from the outer edge of the (rear control arm for a lack of a better term) to the inside of the rear quarter panel is approx 8.75" to 9" wide. That's it, that's all you have to work with in order to keep the tire inside of the sheet metal and from rubbing either side of the tire. So I would say that anything wider that 7.5" to maybe 8" of rim would cause fitment problems. It;s like trying to get 10lbs of crap in an 8lb box. (Excuse the pun)
99.9 percent of all 20" wheels made are of the 8.5" category resulting in fitment problems. So, in order to install 20's on an XB common sense tells us that it must be 8" wide or less. That is no secret. The same logic is used when selecting tire sizes. I am of the understanding that the first number of the size on a tire's siidewall represents the width in milimeters of the tires casing measured sidewall to sidewall when properly inflated. I know from school that the conversion from milimeters to inches is 25.4 mm equals one inch.
Staying within the theory of the 8 lb box we won't be able to install a tire that is much wider than 9". Nine inches times 25.4 mm equals 228.6 mm. So, that means 235/35 tire won't work unless it sticks out. If the tire is short enough that can happen. However, height is also a factor here and it hampers the width considerably. In order to figure the height of a particular tire one needs to multiple the first series of number to the second series of numbers times 2 for the upper part of the sidewall and lower part of the sidewall and then divide it by 25.4 because the sizing is figured in milimeters as said earlier and then add the rim size of 20 or 19 or whatever size rim you are using.
Now that we are on the same page we know that we must use a 225 or narrower tire and around 8" rim or less and I would say probably not much more of 40 series aspect ratio tire or it will be too tall and hit the bottom of the cars front end spring mount.
So there it is common sense 101. no secrets no tricks
Hope that helps.

P.S. Oh how's the ride? For the most part the tires and rims don't qualify the ride factor. That comes from the suspension. I will let you know after I drop it 2 inches tomorrow. I had planned that earlier but the headlamp conversion took me longer than I thought..

thank you, i am not a rim guru(more of a engine, and interior experimental specialist, that means i have no idea what i am doing but i do it just the same) so that actually helped out a lot for me, so thanks for the detail.

i asked about the ride because i thought you DID lower it, sorry for that. please post the quality of the ride after you lower it. thanks

How about an offset? we know the size. I think the offset is very important on any rim purchase.

How about an offset? we know the size. I think the offset is very important on any rim purchase.



the rim offset is +42mm on my 20's

http://www.deadplastic.us/auctions/Randy's%20misc/randys%20xb.jpg

How about an offset? we know the size. I think the offset is very important on any rim purchase.

Offset? Hmmm... THat depends on what one is trying to achieve. Let me tell you the ground rules and then you can determine what result you may want. Measure a rim and determine the width. Divide that in half and that is zero offset.
Moving the mounting pad of the rim towards the front results in a positive offset and visa versa. Depending on how much it is moved results in a greater plus or minus offset. So one could go under the car and measure the opening of the wheel well and all of the obstructions to get the overall with of the rim and then mesaure to the front of the brake drum or rotor and figure the proper offset. Keep in mind that rim offsets are also measured in milimeters. 25.4mm equals 1 inch.
Got it? Good!

hey dubbx I think 1 inch will be enough to lower our rides. I think 2 inches might create a problem for 4 people to sit inside.

http://www.deadplastic.us/auctions/Randy's%20misc/fezscion2.jpg




what do you think!!!

http://www.deadplastic.us/auctions/Randy's%20misc/x2otricklow1.jpg

And here the pic of a BADD ___ WHEEL CHOICE.. M@ hope you dont mind..




http://www.thescionlab.com/images/My_xB/Euroline_Ns_02.jpg

damn i love these rims

now after putting 20s ur gas mileage is really gunna go down :?

now after putting 20s ur gas mileage is really gunna go down :?

Why? shouldn't the revolutions per mile increase with a bigger OD tire and more than offset any rolling resistance caused by added mass? Europe!

hey dubbx I think 1 inch will be enough to lower our rides. I think 2 inches might create a problem for 4 people to sit inside.

http://www.deadplastic.us/auctions/Randy's%20misc/fezscion2.jpg


what do you think!!!

Rubbing problem with four people inside? Naaa, how could it rub if you couldn't move. It think four people inside creates bigger problem than rubbing. LOL Think supercharger!! That's the trick!

http://www.ideninsider.com/forums/images/smilies/drooling.gif props on the rims!!!

the more the tire has to travel the more gas its gunna waste
the heavier the rim is the more it has to struggle which its gunna need more power to move and its gunna waste gas

im still not exactly sure what the specs are on the tires your using but it seems like your speedometer is gonna be about 8% off :roll:

im still not exactly sure what the specs are on the tires your using but it seems like your speedometer is gonna be about 8% off :roll:i think more closer to 10%-12% off

im still not exactly sure what the specs are on the tires your using but it seems like your speedometer is gonna be about 8% off :roll:i think more closer to 10%-12% off

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html


Doc

Personlay im for the 19" tuner look with a lip but Ill give props to some one for dumpin 2" and tuckin 20s on a xB I love the tucked look.. :twisted:

THE DIFF BETWEEN STOCK TIRES AND THE NEW TIRE IS NOT THAT MUCH.
STOCK IS 185/65R15 AND THE SIZE THAT WE ARE RUNNING IS 225/35R20 WHICH WILL ROLL 7.1% SLOWER. SO WHEN YOUR SPEEDO READS 60 MPH YOUR REALLY GOING 64.2 MPH. NO BIG DEAL. I HAVE 150 MILES ON MY RIDE AND IT ROLLS LIKE A DREAM!!

THE DIFF BETWEEN STOCK TIRES AND THE NEW TIRE IS NOT THAT MUCH.
STOCK IS 185/65R15 AND THE SIZE THAT WE ARE RUNNING IS 225/35R20 WHICH WILL ROLL 7.1% SLOWER. SO WHEN YOUR SPEEDO READS 60 MPH YOUR REALLY GOING 64.2 MPH. NO BIG DEAL. I HAVE 150 MILES ON MY RIDE AND IT ROLLS LIKE A DREAM!!

hmm i dunno where u got your info from but the stock tire size is actually 185/60R15 and according to the tire size calcualtor at saturnperformance.com it would actually be a 10.4% difference which seems like quite a bit of difference. :roll:

That's like a 6mph difference from stock :shock: .

Nice wheels, but please tell me you're going to do it the right way and upgrade the brakes soon.

For those who have been keeping up my posts you know that I installed 20's on my new XB without any complications. Next study: lowering the XB 2" w/dubs. Installed 4 Eibach springs appprox 1.5 hrs-no big deal, not fast/nor slow. Next step--road test. Road test was much quicker (perhaps 2 to 3 seconds)
I'm glad that I installed the dubs before any lowering attempt, 'cause I would have thought that it wasn't feasible.
Major rub problems on the rear mud flap that attaches to the front edge of the rear bumper cover and to the under body. The mounting bracket needed to be trimmed (shortened) and the plastic mud flap trimmed and reinstalled. No more rub problems when moving forward or in reverse. Second road test more successful than the first. Still some minor rubs somewhere under the vehicle when going onto uneven and slanted surfaces. The ride quality on smooth surfaces isn't much different but highway speeds around 60 to 70 mph, a little more bouncy than I like.
It looks great though and I will probably leave it like that for now but ultimately change to springs to the TRD 1" drop as the springs will eventually settle a little anyway.
It's been raining for two days so I really couldn't identify where it rubs nor could I get any new pictures. But later today before the Super Bowl starts I will have a shot some clicks.

Side note: Gas mileage is greater effected by the OD of the tire more than rolling resistance. So taller tires promote fuel efficiency not a reduce it.

Here is the pic I promised. Crusin on Dubs(tucked) lowered 2"
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p9eebcf299572f55a26ebbd4c0100fd71/f9bf79d2.jpg

thats not a 4lug rim is it???? and the scion looks super nice on the 20 with the drop mad props

thats not a 4lug rim is it???? and the scion looks super nice on the 20 with the drop mad props

Yes they are 4 lug direct bolt. We sell them where I work wholesale for $265. each. If they weren't direct bolt and required an adapter they won't tuck underneath. These fit with plenty on side clearance. In fact I can put my hand between the sidewall and the quarter panel. We have some that aren't chrome in another design. Some people like the painted finish as that was the original tuner look. However, I have noticed that many of the IMPORT magazines are now featuring chrome and taking a different direction. For example catch a current copy of Import Tuner Magazine as the last 3 copies have featured Chrome DUBS on the cover car. Who knows it's all about preference. After all that's why Hondas are made. LOL

P.S. I personally think that 20" are proportionately correct for the side view of the XB. Now this will probably start a stir but 18's look tiny on an XB. Place the 2 cars side by side and compare. I don't think that the biggest is best or I would have put 22's on someway, believe me.

Hey dub box...
your wheels are probably rubing where mine are. U might need spacers. I took pics of where mine rubs...check it out and see if yours does too.
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5824&highlight=

thats not a 4lug rim is it???? and the scion looks super nice on the 20 with the drop mad props

Yes they are 4 lug direct bolt. We sell them where I work wholesale for $265. each. If they weren't direct bolt and required an adapter they won't tuck underneath. These fit with plenty on side clearance. In fact I can put my hand between the sidewall and the quarter panel. We have some that aren't chrome in another design. Some people like the painted finish as that was the original tuner look. However, I have noticed that many of the IMPORT magazines are now featuring chrome and taking a different direction. For example catch a current copy of Import Tuner Magazine as the last 3 copies have featured Chrome DUBS on the cover car. Who knows it's all about preference. After all that's why Hondas are made. LOL

P.S. I personally think that 20" are proportionately correct for the side view of the XB. Now this will probably start a stir but 18's look tiny on an XB. Place the 2 cars side by side and compare. I don't think that the biggest is best or I would have put 22's on someway, believe me.


do u have a website where u work or do u have some pic of the 4lug 20 that will fit???
have u try 20s on a xa??

Looks bangin'!!! 8)

thats not a 4lug rim is it???? and the scion looks super nice on the 20 with the drop mad props

Yes they are 4 lug direct bolt. We sell them where I work wholesale for $265. each. If they weren't direct bolt and required an adapter they won't tuck underneath. These fit with plenty on side clearance. In fact I can put my hand between the sidewall and the quarter panel. We have some that aren't chrome in another design. Some people like the painted finish as that was the original tuner look. However, I have noticed that many of the IMPORT magazines are now featuring chrome and taking a different direction. For example catch a current copy of Import Tuner Magazine as the last 3 copies have featured Chrome DUBS on the cover car. Who knows it's all about preference. After all that's why Hondas are made. LOL

P.S. I personally think that 20" are proportionately correct for the side view of the XB. Now this will probably start a stir but 18's look tiny on an XB. Place the 2 cars side by side and compare. I don't think that the biggest is best or I would have put 22's on someway, believe me.


do u have a website where u work or do u have some pic of the 4lug 20 that will fit???
have u try 20s on a xa??

nevermind i found the website

Where do you work at dub box?

Where do you work at dub box?

Extreme Wheels
New port Richey, Fl
727 849 8677

Can you get any Japanese wheels? Work, Volk etc..

Throw a nice body kit on that (like Red Genie's :wink: ) and it wont need a drop... 8)

update
http://bobhowley.net/pics/car%20pics/Scion%20pics/Zack%20Polishing%20pops%20car.jpg

damn, need to resize that bad boy.

well ,said.

this might already said...

but it was too long tread to read

what are the spec of the rim and tire?

and what exactly is minor work ???

dub box: didn't you post a while back asking about kits? if that was you, it looks good. what else do you have planned?

Pretty schnazzy in person. :D

nice wheels :D

Nice! I like!

Here's a box on 20's

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