Sometimes I wish I worked at the DMV just so I could revoke old peoples licenses!
:flame:

Took the wife to the doctor this morning and what did we find when we came out of the office?


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Fcukin old people, they were about 3 feet past the parking line and touching my bumper! I took pictures and backed up, but there didnt seem to be any damage. Hopefully when I get a change to wash the car I wont notice anything.
I hope they slip on the ice and break their hip! :gun:

I hope they slip on the ice and break their hip!

Yeah, I'm not sure how to handle that situation. I'm thinking about
printing out some of those "thanks for parking so close to my car _______...
did you leave me a can opener so I could get out" cards to leave on cars that
park like that.

If I remember correctly, they had Mickey giving you the finger to get your attention.

that sux... u should of kicked the car or something..j.k.

Some of my friends and I are going to get a couple of boxes of business cards printed up with different sayings on them for just this occasion.

How do you know they were old?

it's a buick

This is what I have always said! It's the older folks that are the parking lot vandals! The old ones (you know who you are) have no respect for other peoples property. Probably because they are so close to death that they don't care! I hope I am not that way when I am old. I would venture to say 90% of door dings are the result of careless old people. They literally use your car as a door stop!

One time I was sitting in my car at the mall opening a CD and all of the sudden a hear and feel a "WHHOOMPP!!" I swore that someone had ran into my car the impact was so great (my whole car rocked!). I look out my window and some old lady was getting out of her husbands caddy and she still had her door resting against my car and was using it as a brace to lift herself out of her car. She was PUSHING her door into my car!!

I jumped out and said "what the hell are you doing!!" I looked at my door and saw a dent and a crack in the paint where her door was resting. "You just dented my car! Why would you do that??" I asked. She got all scared looking and slinked back into her car and shut the door. Her husband said "what's the problem?" I pointed to the dent and crack in my car and he looked at it and said "that could have already been there!" I got really mad and opened up the old lady's door and gently laid it against my car. "Wow, whats the chance that your door lines up perfectly with the dent and you have blue paint on your door edge from my car?" He mumbled something about "damn kids" or something and got in his car and started to leave!! She went to pull her door shut and I started screaming at them insanely!He took off. I called the police and gave his plate #, but nothing ever came of it. I was told it wouldn't be worth it to take them to court. My word against theirs.

$250 fix!!

it sux when its old people that do it. i think it was th second time i had driven my car into work and i find a green windstar on top of rear bumper. naturaly i flipped and told the guy i was working with that i was goin to wait as long as i had to to see who it was and kick some ___. and who does it turn out to be? a 90 year old man! now as much of an @$$hole i might be i just would've felt guilty if i even raised my voice at him. its as if you can never do anything about it with them

it's a buick

So? I drove a buick when I was 22. the type of car has nothing to do with the age of the driver

my buddy has the perfect lic. plate frame for this...

it has two dozen spikes pointing out of it...
really would have messed them up....

last time I went shopping some old folks ran their shopping into the side of my car after they unloaded it. I picked it upand threw in on their car.....ok so maybe I am tempramental :flame:

it's a buick

So? I drove a buick when I was 22. the type of car has nothing to do with the age of the driverVery true. My wife's only 35 and she's been driving a Buick LeSabre for 5 years (long story as to why). Her next car will be an xB.

poor wife.

It may not be an old persons car, but come on, lets be honest here... it's an "odds on" favorite that it is.

I'm not going to say that old people don't do these things because I'm sure some do. But from what I've seen, 95% of the time, door dings are from little kids who fling their doors open. From the time my son was a toddler, we've taught him to be very careful of ther cars when he opens his door. Some parents just don't care. Especially if their car is a piece of junk.

poor wife.LOL...yeah well, she doesn't really mind too much. Sure, it's an "old person's" car, but it is a nice car. Back before my dad past away, he had a leg amputated below the knee. He realized that it would be alot easier to slide in and out of a car with leather interior than one with cloth. So they offered their two-year-old LeSabre to us for a song. We didn't really want a Buick, but it was too good to pass up. And like I said, it is a nice car.

I think it's funny that younger people always blame old people for bad driving/parking/whatever. And the older people blame young people for bad driving/parking/whatever.

Interesting. ;)

I'm not going to say that old people don't do these things because I'm sure some do. But from what I've seen, 95% of the time, door dings are from little kids who fling their doors open. From the time my son was a toddler, we've taught him to be very careful of ther cars when he opens his door. Some parents just don't care. Especially if their car is a piece of junk.

100% agreed

With the interior decor of this car, it was definately an old persons car. And that was also all that I saw in the doctors office (small practice).

I really dont care if they were old or not, inconsiderate bastards that cant be in control of thir own vehicles.

Yesterday, I saw an old couple in a Buick go down the wrong side of the street... the bad part is that there is a big median, so they're going to have to keep going the wrong way for about 1/2 mile before they can switch back over...

I was at lunch with a co-worker a few months back and these 2 old people got into their car and proceeded to back up making no use of their mirrors and would have backed into me if I didn't back up. Then they pulled forward and rear-ended this truck(probably did more damage to their car than his truck), they back up and then proceed to drive off. As slow as they were in the parking lot, once they turned onto the road, they hauled cheeks. A friend of mine has an old beater and anytime someone opens their door and hits his car, he waits until they're gone and repays them 10 fold. WHAM!!! Sometimes I've felt like doing this, but I don't want to hurt my baby.

I travel a lot for work and when I park at the airport, I write down color, make, model, license plate of the cars parked on both sides of me. You never know when the extra time is going to pay off.

-Z

You shouldn't hate old people...you'll only hate yourself later on.

You shouldn't hate old people...you'll only hate yourself later on.
haha good point

Makes me think of this vid: http://abfhm.free.fr/womendrivers.wmv

Last time I went shopping some old folks ran their shopping into the side of my car after they unloaded it. I picked it upand threw in on their car.....ok so maybe I am tempramental...

Sounds like something I would do....I get a lil tempramental sometimes too, especially about my car.
:flame:

Makes me think of this vid: http://abfhm.free.fr/womendrivers.wmv

Last time I went shopping some old folks ran their shopping into the side of my car after they unloaded it. I picked it upand threw in on their car.....ok so maybe I am tempramental...

Sounds like something I would do....I get a lil tempramental sometimes too, especially about my car.
:flame:

Sounds like something a 6 year old would do... :crazy:

Gotta love those ABS bumpers!

buicks are a poor mans caddy!!!

...I took pictures and backed up, but there didnt seem to be any damage.

I hope they slip on the ice and break their hip!
This is what I have always said! It's the older folks that are the parking lot vandals! The old ones (you know who you are) have no respect for other peoples property.

Umm, some of your colleagues here on ScionLife have even less respect:

I picked it [a shopping cart] upand threw in on their car....
A friend of mine has an old beater and anytime someone opens their door and hits his car, he waits until they're gone and repays them 10 fold. WHAM!!!
u should of kicked the car or something.

Seems like many people here feel that intentional vandalism is a justifiable response to unintentional thoughtlessness. Sad.

Sounds like we need to have classes on teaching people to respect each others' property.

I'm at the dealership, and I'm waiting on my 22 yo customer to come in and pick up his new BCP xB.

He pulls onto the lot so quickly he plows his Ranger into one of the stucco columns on the front of the store.

Leaves a massive dent in the building, of which my boss is not too thrilled with... I notice the guy is missing his rear sliding glass on the cab. Says he rammed his 4-wheeler into the glass trying to load it in the bed.

Bad drivers come in all ages and drive all sorts of cars... young drivers lack experience, middle-aged drivers have too many distractions, and older drivers lose their reaction skills.

It happens. (You could always wrap your ride in bubble wrap. :rofl: )

then there are women drivers.....















heheh just kidding!!!! don't crucify me!

I was on my Ducati motorcycle a few years ago when some blue-hair in a land yacht turned left right in front of me, like I wasn't even there. Years of defensive driving had me anticipate this exact thing, but I still laid into her with my dual 130db Fiamm horns and came to a stop in the middle of the intersection. I looked around, and the drivers in the cars were just shaking their heads in disbelief. Well, that was the last straw, so I flipped a u-turn and chased her down as she was turning into a mobile home park. I got right beside her, flipped up my visor, and proceeded to scream at her that 1) she almost hit me, 2) was she blind or something, 3) what's her problem, etc. All she did was sheepishly look up at me and mumble "I'm sorry, I'm sorry...". I told her sorry doesn't cut it, and proceeded to inform her that I have just as much of a right to be on the road as she does, and she violated my right of way, etc. My adrenaline was pumping too much to just let it go. If my ranting and raving at her will make her think twice before turning left in front of another motorcycle, then it was worth it.

Just this Saturday, I was riding my Harley Sportster back to the base when someone turned left right in front of me, heading into the Joint Forces Staff College. I braked in time and threw up my hands in disgust, and saw that the driver basically didn't even look before making his turn, and was yapping on his cellphone. I was tempted to turn right and catch up to him and read him the riot act at the very least, but causing a scene like that at the entrance to a military facility with armed Navy guards probably would not have been a good thing. Next time though, I don't care where I am, if someone does that again, I'm going to make it a point to "educate" that dumbass driver of their violation of my right of way, and take it from there...

I sure hate to see how you are going to react when something really serious happens. Life is too short to have such strong feelings over a vehicle..it just isn't worth it. Do you have grandparents? If so, I'm sure they are old people. All age groups have their poor drivers..lighten up and smell the roses.

This past weekend I saw an old woman back her Buick into a car behind her, which was stopped in the road. I agree all age groups have their fair share of bad drivers, but honestly, elderly people have nothing for reaction time, drive way to slow, and don't pay attention. Anyone who refutes this is either really old, or lying.

I feel you man. I think it was summer of 2000 my buddy had just gotten a brand new Prelude so we were driving around and stop at a liquor store to get some smokes and as we're walking out this 60 year old lady opens the door to her chrysler wide open as far as it would go until it hit my boys car then starts using it as a crutch to get herself out which resulted in 2 more dings. When we asked her wtf she was doing she just smiled and then when we asked if she was gonna pay for the damage she said something along the lines of "you young boys look like you could afford to fix it yourself" and walked off like nothing happened. Got her plate number and insurance actually took care of it with nothing out my my friends pocket I think they got hold of her insurance company and made them pay for it.

It's one thing if it's an accident and a small ding but when people know they did it and act like u have teh problem when u confront them o man do i wish i could walk around and arrest dumbasses for stuff like that

Bad drivers come in all ages and drive all sorts of cars... young drivers lack experience, middle-aged drivers have too many distractions, and older drivers lose their reaction skills

I think that truly sums it up!

lighten up and smell the roses

I wish it were that easy and I could be so blindly blissful. But it's difficult to be that
way when people are stupid and inconsiderate...it's even harder when you are DEAD
because someone is driving stupid.

Just a couple weeks ago I was hit head on by some moron who thought it was a
good idea to dive headlong across four lanes of traffic to get to his apartment
complex a few seconds earlier rather then wait for the flow of traffic to pass.
He misjudged the distance and his speed, and hit me head on doing at least 45
when I was doing 45 in the opposite direction. If it weren't for the fact that I was
in a SAAB, there is a good chance I'd not have my legs to walk on ever again!

I'd love to get a motorcycle, but if I can't feel safe driving in a car because people
are too wrapped up in their own self centered, blissful "smell the roses" lives, then
I can't imagine getting on a cycle of any kind!

People have to keep in mind, YOU ARE DRIVING A TWO TON BULLET AT
45+ MILES AN HOUR AND ARE AIMED TO KILL ANYONE.

Am I being too serious about this? NO, I think not. No more then if I saw someone
waving a loaded gun while wandering down a highway...it's just about the same
damn thing.

Someone parking stupidly or damaging property in a parking lot ____es me off
in a big way, it's selfish and careless. People driving stupid is a whole other world
of stupid.

I do wish that getting a license were much more difficult, and tests were taken
more often, PLUS in order to get that HUGE SUV that you don't need, or the
penis enlarger sports car that a test be taken to show that you can drive the
vehicle within it's (and your) abilities and skillset.

Sorry, I had to rant. I don't think people take any of this seriously enough.
I'll shut up now. :silly:

JeniQ is right, tempramental is one thing but there is an awful lot of hatred displayed here. I don't like my car dinged just as much as the next person. But lets give the old folks a little bit of respect...you'll all be old someday too. I hope the younger peolple then will treat you kind,or will you be hatefull old farts too?

I agree Lonely Raven. (Some) people don't take driving seriously..

Testing should be more frequent and harder.. remember when you were 16 and STUDYING to take your license exam, and you were all jittery when you were doing the road test, knowing any mistake would fail you?

A mistake in a 2-ton bullet going 45mph will likely get you or someone else hurt or worse..

vehicle specific safety classes would be a good idea too.. i can't see them making it mandatory but maybe an insurance incentive would work..

You know what's just as bad? When you park in a spot and there isn't a car parked next to you. But when you come out of wherever you were, some idiot parked so close to you that you can barely get the door open to get in your car! I hate that! :flame:

Deal with the situation instead of hating old people. Grow up.

I have problems with gang bangers and dope heads messing up our society, should I hate young people.

Do not generalize. There's a lot of good old people out there.

Forgive and forget.

Joel

Makes me think of this vid: http://abfhm.free.fr/womendrivers.wmv

Last time I went shopping some old folks ran their shopping into the side of my car after they unloaded it. I picked it upand threw in on their car.....ok so maybe I am tempramental...

Sounds like something I would do....I get a lil tempramental sometimes too, especially about my car.
:flame:

Sounds like something a 6 year old would do... :crazy:
whatever :blah:

i wonder how this guy would feel if his parents who i guess is also old did the same thing to someone else and that person came in this forum and said that they hate old people and wish bad things to them.............hmmm

Hay did anyone here see the eps. of south park were the old people were killing people becuase they couldnt drive so they took all there licences away soo the only people came back and started a war over it. :rofl:

Dings in your door are a part of life. If you want less of them, park away from the other cars and walk a few extra feet. If you've got 'em, wait until every door is dinged and you've got a few rock chips and scratches and have your car 2 toned.

Motorcycles are dangerous, a lot more so than cars. That doesn't mean that cars shouldn't watch out for motorcycles, but you have to accept the risks that go with cycle riding every time you swing your leg over that crotch rocket.

Bad drivers come in all ages and drive all sorts of cars... young drivers lack experience, middle-aged drivers have too many distractions, and older drivers lose their reaction skills

You said it. If anything, we should be requiring driving lessons for cheaper insurance, banning cell phone use while driving, and having older people tested annually for their reaction time.

lets leave everything to KARMA.

wrong forum stevo................ :rofl:

Oh where to start...

First, just because you're an older driver doesn't mean you automatically get respect, at least not in my book. Respect is something that's earned, not given just because of your age, intelligence, wealth, or whatever.

Second, agree 100% that every age group has it's share of bad, stereotypical drivers. I fully agree that driving requirements need to be much more strict for younger drivers, say 18-21, and for older drivers, say anyone over 60. I'm sure statistically these age groups represent the biggest threat out there.

Third, riding a motorcycle is not inherently dangerous. Like a car, it's an inanimate object that takes a human operator. Throw in some inexperience, inattentiveness, lack of training, attitude, poor mechanical condition, on the part of either the motorcycle or vehicle operator, and you could have some potential problems. If the cage drivers would obey the traffic laws like everyone else, riding a motorcycle wouldn't be any more dangerous. But what makes it dangerous is they'll come out on the losing end of even just a "minor" fender-bender.

Fourth, relax and smell the roses? You've got to be kidding me. What color is the sky in your world? As long as people roll over and just blow it off, idiotic drivers will continue in their ways. What they need every now and then is a reality check. Driving a car is a privilege, not a right. If they abuse that privilege, then it should be pointed out to them in a not so subtle way. "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to sit back and do nothing."

You know, I'm old, (not 65 but old), and I think when I get to 65, I will insist that my driving skillz be checked every year. I don't want to be the monkey that can't drive when he's over 65, and yet, still does, then kills someone.

And old people, can be nuts. Two nights ago, this old man, and I do mean old, started to pick a fight with me, because his wife told him that I had cussed her out (never even saw the old bird before)...well, this okd fart is pointing his finger in my face, and I told him to back off, or he would get a heart attack or something.
He wanted to 'take me outside' and teach me a lesson. I laughed in his face, started to walk away, when he grabs my arm, and pulls me towards him.

He tries to hit me, and falls down. On his face. I had to call the ambulance, and give a report. I had folks that had seen the whole thing, and so no problem with me. But still. Old people can be weird.

You know, I'm old, (not 65 but old), and I think when I get to 65, I will insist that my driving skillz be checked every year. I don't want to be the monkey that can't drive when he's over 65, and yet, still does, then kills someone.

And old people, can be nuts. Two nights ago, this old man, and I do mean old, started to pick a fight with me, because his wife told him that I had cussed her out (never even saw the old bird before)...well, this okd fart is pointing his finger in my face, and I told him to back off, or he would get a heart attack or something.
He wanted to 'take me outside' and teach me a lesson. I laughed in his face, started to walk away, when he grabs my arm, and pulls me towards him.

He tries to hit me, and falls down. On his face. I had to call the ambulance, and give a report. I had folks that had seen the whole thing, and so no problem with me. But still. Old people can be weird. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: too damn good right there .ha ha

^^^ :rofl: insta-karma. nothing like letting events play themselves out. its always easier to keep a cool head in these types of situations :D

^^^ :rofl: insta-karma. nothing like letting events play themselves out. its always easier to keep a cool head in these types of situations :D

That would make for a nice saying on someone's grave marker...or "here lies John Doe, who had the right of way..."

I jumped out and said "what the hell are you doing!!" I looked at my door and saw a dent and a crack in the paint where her door was resting. "You just dented my car! Why would you do that??" I asked. She got all scared looking and slinked back into her car and shut the door.

$250 fix!!

sorry about you door. Nice to see you handled it with respect for the folks. jumping out of your car and yelling at an old lady. Shame on you. I assume you are perfect and have never had an accident or traffic ticket, never made a mistake in your life? Remember these seniors are the same people who overlooked your mistakes when you were younger. such as. riding your big wheel through their flower gardens, nicks in their car from your tricycle and other stuff.

show some respect, you will be old some day. unless the next time you jump out of the car and yell at some old lady her husband kicks your butt.

^^^ :rofl: insta-karma. nothing like letting events play themselves out. its always easier to keep a cool head in these types of situations :D

My friends keep asking me how I kept from hitting their car or something like that. And it's simple, I was ____ed because they had a lack of respect for my property, I wasn't going to turn around and be just like them. I took pictures of the contact and their license plate incase I needed to make a claim to get something fixed. Nothing looked wrong, so I just drove off and left them to their unknown reality of not knowing that they did something wrong.

Sometimes I wish I worked at the DMV just so I could revoke old peoples licenses!
:flame:

Took the wife to the doctor this morning and what did we find when we came out of the office?


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http://ifmracing.com/pictures/Feb/bump1.JPG

Fcukin old people, they were about 3 feet past the parking line and touching my bumper! I took pictures and backed up, but there didnt seem to be any damage. Hopefully when I get a change to wash the car I wont notice anything.
I hope they slip on the ice and break their hip! :gun:


That would ____ me off so bad! I hope you took a picture of thier licence plate, just incase you find any problems.....

This is EXACTLY why I always keep my digital camera in my hatch!

RacerxB,

Never said I yelled at her until they started to drive off. And contrary to what you may think, I think I displayed great restraint given the situation. I am sorry, I have heard this sob story before, that old folks should somehow get a pass on doing and saying nasty things. I don't care what your age, you get no free pass to damage my property.

Seriously, if you were sitting in you car and some little old lady SLAMMED her door into your car, you look at her and she is still pushing her door into your paint with all her might showing no concern fro damage she is causing, how would you react?
I suppose you would have just smiled and thanked her?

Honestly, I would have reacted a lot differently if she wouldn't have kept grinding her door into my car after crushing it. That showed that she knew exactly what she was doing and had no care for the damage she was causing.

And to answer your question, yes I have made mistakes driving and made some bad decisions as we all have. BUT THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT. An accident would be her bumping her door into mine and then pulling it back quickly. She continued putting all her weight into it and grinding her door into my car long after smashing it. I WOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, DO THIS TO SOMEONE ELSES PROPERTY AND I NEVER WILL!!! (And neither would you I suspect!)

my gf recently had her car hit by an old man. he backed all the way across the street into the side of her car.. $1000 in damage..

he begged her not to go to the insurance, just get a few quotes, and he'd give her cash.. well, this ____ has been going on for over a month now, and he keeps avoiding paying her the rest of the $$.

poor old man? hell no. it doesn't matter your age, you need to respect other people's property, and OWN UP TO Your MISTAKES>

florida is full of old people who give no respect to anyone but themselves..

i've seen an old lady push her cart from the back of the line at the grocery store, and shove someone out of the way to get in front of them.. when that person yelled, she said "you ought to be ashamed, treating an old lady like that" i'm sorry, but that's messed up.

That showed that she knew exactly what she was doing and had no care for the damage she was causing.

Not necessarily... The older people get, the less aware they are of their surroundings. You don't know for sure that she knew exactly what she was doing.

Thats why I park way in the back or it a corner spot.

That showed that she knew exactly what she was doing and had no care for the damage she was causing.

Not necessarily... The older people get, the less aware they are of their surroundings. You don't know for sure that she knew exactly what she was doing.

Less aware they are of their surroundings? Then why should they be driving?

you gonna volunteer your days to drive them around? :)

That showed that she knew exactly what she was doing and had no care for the damage she was causing.

Not necessarily... The older people get, the less aware they are of their surroundings. You don't know for sure that she knew exactly what she was doing.

Less aware they are of their surroundings? Then why should they be driving?

*looks around*
When did I say that they should be??? I think EVERYONE should have to retake the driving test at set intervals. Young and old alike.

DOOR DINGS!DOOR DINGS!
I would like to agree with the people that say a majority of door dings come from old people, not so many of them come from kids. how do i know this?
I deal with cars in parking lots as a job. Honestly its what i do. I work security for Grand Rapids (MI) Parking Services. i deal i deal with door dings daily, especially on the nice cars. and i must admit the older the people the more disregard they have for others cars. a majority of the time when i have to take a report for door dings it is caused by a elderly person usually 65 or older.
we leave notes on the silver hair cars and almost 80% of the time they deny it when the call you or stop into my office.
it does ____ me off. they say respect your elders i say To hell with them ( only careless ones) wow i was hoping that this forum would come up at some time. i needed to vent. any other questions on door dings i would love to vent more...

Of course, there are the opposites as well. The jerks that park in the Handicapped stalls because they are closer to the store ... or the jerks that park their cars across three parking stalls to ensure that nobody dings thier paint job.

I've had several cracked windshields from vehicles flicking rocks up into the air as they drive past me. Should I chase them down and threaten them? Chips, dings, scratches and cracks are part of the hazards of owning a vehicle.

I agree that people need to pay more attention and have respect for other peoples property but showing restraint and realizing that it isn't the end of the world goes a long way toward making life a whole lot easier on everyone.

Funny, most of the "D" Boys in Oakland drive Buicks w/ DuBs.

you gonna volunteer your days to drive them around? :)

Haha...I don't think anyone is. But there are people who get paid to drive people around. These people are called Bus Drivers, Taxi Driver's. In my home town there's a bus like a shuttle at the airports and it's specifically aimed at old people who can't drive themselves. I don't know if other areas have these services, but there are buses and taxis. And no one better say "Old people don't have money for buses/taxis" b/c that's BS. They have money to cruise around in a new(ish) Cadillac and pay for the gas that those boats guzzle. My Grandma still drives OK on the highway and in the smaller towns, but when she has to drive in the bigger areas or long drives, my Mom or my Aunt drives her. It's the never ending cycle. Parents take care of their kids and later on in life the tables turn.

-Z

Oh yeah...just to chime in on what George said on "Intentional vandalism is a justifiable response..." didn't you say in the Smoking Thread that you used to throw lit cigarette butts back into people's cars that threw them out? Is burning a person's interior not intentional vandalism?

Oh yeah...just to chime in on what George said on "Intentional vandalism is a justifiable response..." didn't you say in the Smoking Thread that you used to throw lit cigarette butts back into people's cars that threw them out? Is burning a person's interior not intentional vandalism?

In CA, where George lives, that is Arson, a Felony. And now peeps know why I feel George shouldn't be a mod on this site.

Oh yeah...just to chime in on what George said on "Intentional vandalism is a justifiable response..." didn't you say in the Smoking Thread that you used to throw lit cigarette butts back into people's cars that threw them out? Is burning a person's interior not intentional vandalism?

In CA, where George lives, that is Arson, a Felony. And now peeps know why I feel George shouldn't be a mod on this site.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

-Z

He intended to throw a lit cigarette back into a passenger compartment of a vehicle. Not only could it catch the vehicle on fire, Arson, but if someone gets killed during the course of the incident, that could also be Murder.

smokers had it coming.. die in a fire now? or die of cancer in 30 years?

smokers had it coming.. die in a fire now? or die of cancer in 30 years?

That's stupid. You could die anytime for any reason unknown. Everyone dies...so let's re-word that to include everyone.

'Die in a fire now? or die of natural causes in 30 years?'

Stupid...just stupid.

-Z

I would've either kicked it or keyed it....done it b-4 i'll do it again..you have no respect for my car then i won't for yours..!!!

Wow, I used to think i lived in the civilized world... rethinking that...

Screaming and scaring an old lady didn't "help"her pay attention, it just made her more nervous and now she'll probably brake in front of you too.

Pushing on the door doesn't mean it was intentional, lack of awareness is far-reaching. they could've easily thought it was just extended, maybe?

Yeah, George the felon, why isn't the ATF investigating... How'd that slip through the supermod background check? :roll:

Oh yeah...just to chime in on what George said on "Intentional vandalism is a justifiable response..." didn't you say in the Smoking Thread that you used to throw lit cigarette butts back into people's cars that threw them out? Is burning a person's interior not intentional vandalism?

The key words there are "used to".

To put that back in context, I did qualify my statement in that thread:

In my wilder days ...

No, it wasn't very bright to do that...

Yep, I was young and dumb 20 years ago. I've grown up a bit since then. I hope that others do too.

I kinda feel sorry for some of those old folks. I don't want to just give them a 'pass' per say because they dinged my car. Accountability for ones actions should be the norm. But, how easy do you think it is to move around wearing a fully loaded Depends?

I hope they slip on the ice and break their hip! :gun:

thats the worst thing to wish on anyone :no:

It's just a car. yes it sucks when folks ding them but it is still just a car.

It's just a car. yes it sucks when folks ding them but it is still just a car.
I know I'm dumb but...... Car's are the only possesions that I care about. I know I shouldn't but It's all I have and man , a brand new one , I practically guard it with my life.

Yaaa my Tc has got its first Hit. A day after I read this post about old people hitting cars and My Tc get a hit. Dont know if it was an "old person" but who ever it was basiclly pulled back along my car and poped the corner of the rear bumper off and did a nice little scrape on the paint, easy fix its plastic so I just pop it back in call up the insurance company and say one word... Wal-Mart "EEEEWWW" she says. Ya our little wal-mart here in canton Ga is known for its car dings you have the perfect bunch here large hispanc group,lots of north Ga mountain Rednecks, and "OLD PEOPLE" LOL oh well Sh** happens you cant even see the paint scratch unless your up on it looking at it but due to the way it poped out it bent the screws so I need a new rear bumper insurance will pay most of the bill I just Pay $250 deductable and I get a new bupper yaaa me.

This is what I have always said! It's the older folks that are the parking lot vandals! The old ones (you know who you are) have no respect for other peoples property. Probably because they are so close to death that they don't care! I hope I am not that way when I am old. I would venture to say 90% of door dings are the result of careless old people. They literally use your car as a door stop!

One time I was sitting in my car at the mall opening a CD and all of the sudden a hear and feel a "WHHOOMPP!!" I swore that someone had ran into my car the impact was so great (my whole car rocked!). I look out my window and some old lady was getting out of her husbands caddy and she still had her door resting against my car and was using it as a brace to lift herself out of her car. She was PUSHING her door into my car!!

I jumped out and said "what the hell are you doing!!" I looked at my door and saw a dent and a crack in the paint where her door was resting. "You just dented my car! Why would you do that??" I asked. She got all scared looking and slinked back into her car and shut the door. Her husband said "what's the problem?" I pointed to the dent and crack in my car and he looked at it and said "that could have already been there!" I got really mad and opened up the old lady's door and gently laid it against my car. "Wow, whats the chance that your door lines up perfectly with the dent and you have blue paint on your door edge from my car?" He mumbled something about "damn kids" or something and got in his car and started to leave!! She went to pull her door shut and I started screaming at them insanely!He took off. I called the police and gave his plate #, but nothing ever came of it. I was told it wouldn't be worth it to take them to court. My word against theirs.

$250 fix!!

According to my wife who is a cop, says that the cops should have done a report and either wrote them for malicious destruction of property,vandalism or leaving the scene of an accident. With that much evidence the "your word against theirs doesn't float" the cop at the scene would have analized the evidence and put all the info in the report. Chances are after the report was filed the couples insurance would have fixed your car without even going to court. I would follow up on it if you are not happy with having to fix someone elses problem :lalala: I say at least give their plate number to your insurance company and let them contact the old peoples insurance and collect the damages. Can't hurt to try

Just to clear matters up, this old lady wasn't decrepid. She was in her mid-late 60's, looked like a Joan Rivers type. She wasn't THAT old. She was the kind of type that looks down her nose at you in her big Caddy and all. By the way, I am 38 years old, so I am no spring chicken either.

Jethro B,

Thanks for the advice. I did, in fact, file a police report (this was 8 or 9 years ago) and was in touch with my insurance company and the police for a few weeks. They said they visited the addess of the suspec and inspected their vehicle but could find no evidence. The officer said I could persue it if I wanted, but he said the burden of proof would be on me, and it may not be worth it considering the amount damage done and the fact I would miss work, etc. to persue a trail.

why would you guard a car with your life haven't you heard about auto insurance......... :doh:

old people story...

i was working at a gas station, and i finish pumping gas for these old people (around 70 or 80 i'm guessing, and as soon as i'm done, the guy starts the car, floors it, and smashes right into the side of the building, destroying a service bay.

never figured out what possessed him to do that
and yes, he was in a buick lesabre.

the best thing i ever saw was a guy that kicked off the persons side veiw mirror because tehy dented the door of his 3000gt. i was walking by and i heard him cussing then he just kicked it sright up into the air :clap:

I'm not going to say that old people don't do these things because I'm sure some do. But from what I've seen, 95% of the time, door dings are from little kids who fling their doors open. From the time my son was a toddler, we've taught him to be very careful of ther cars when he opens his door. Some parents just don't care. Especially if their car is a piece of junk.

Yeah, my boy did that to a Camaro at In-N-Out Burger last year. Luckily the owner thought it was such a small ding that he wouldn't even take my phone number.
But my son got a swat anyway, just to make it stick in his memory. :no:

why would you guard a car with your life haven't you heard about auto insurance......... :doh:
Insurance is never going to make the car exactly the same as it was before it was damaged. It's only ORIGINAL once :doh:

back to old driver/s
anyone remembers this?
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/2337407/detail.html

Wow, that's terrible.

Yeah, I'm not sure how to handle that situation. I'm thinking about
printing out some of those "thanks for parking so close to my car _______...
did you leave me a can opener so I could get out" cards to leave on cars that
park like that.

If I remember correctly, they had Mickey giving you the finger to get your attention. I keep a bunch of those for the :tap: jerks in my box.

It's just a car. yes it sucks when folks ding them but it is still just a car.
I know I'm dumb but...... Car's are the only possesions that I care about. I know I shouldn't but It's all I have and man , a brand new one , I practically guard it with my life. Can you still shoot people over property in Texas? :gun:

A car is the second biggest investment most people make. It only makes sense to try and protect it so it will have more value when you need to sell it for a new one. Plus I just like to keep things I own as perfect as possible. When at Wal-Mart I always park away from the masses to try and prevent incidental dents and dings. Most of the people who aren't cautious about swinging their doors into yours are also the same people that will drive around the parking lot for 15 minutes looking for a spot that will save them 30 ft more of walking. Park away from them and you'll be almost safe.

A word of warning about windy days and store parking lots. I had two dents in my last truck because the wind blew a buggy into the side of it. Put as much distance between your car and the buggys and as many islands as possible too. I watched a buggy go from one side of a Wal-Mart parking lot to the other one day during high winds. It would have left a nasty dent if it had found a car.

It's just a car. yes it sucks when folks ding them but it is still just a car.
I know I'm dumb but...... Car's are the only possesions that I care about. I know I shouldn't but It's all I have and man , a brand new one , I practically guard it with my life. Can you still shoot people over property in Texas? :gun:
You can shoot them but only at night I believe lol, I'm in cali so none of that for me.

why would you guard a car with your life haven't you heard about auto insurance......... :doh:
Well I'm 20 and any claim is going to make my ins skyrocket .

i guess material things do mean a lot to some folks.............i wonder when they die if they gonna take it with them....... :silly:

if your buddist, whatever you die with on your body, is what you take with you...it could happen. :bow: lol

i guess material things do mean a lot to some folks.............i wonder when they die if they gonna take it with them....... :silly: Well I was planning on being buried in my box sitting in the driver's seat with the radio playing "The party's over". I 'll have my headstone covered in solar panels to keep it going. :P

i guess material things do mean a lot to some folks.............i wonder when they die if they gonna take it with them....... :silly: Well I was planning on being buried in my box sitting in the driver's seat with the radio playing "The party's over". I 'll have my headstone covered in solar panels to keep it going. :P

Then you find out that you really do remain cognizant after death and you're stuck listening to the same thing over and over and over and.....

if by any chance you do get buried in your box and go to heaven you will have a cheap slow car, i hear in heaven they only have luxury cars.......and if you go to hell your box will burn for eternity......... :rofl:

How old is "old"? Just wanted to know where I fit in!

cars are NOT and never will be an investment ...especially cheap little ones anyway this whole topic is getting OLD! Speaking of OLD ! BTW I'm tiring of seeing the really young drivers playing "chase" me on the freeway with each other so quit ragging on about old folks when so many young ones are just as bad if not worse!

Go watch a Barrett-Jackson auto auction and tell everyone there that what they're spending their hard earned money on is not an investment.

Badly parked cars should be impounded. Permanently.

It will do wonders for the numbers of bad drivers out there... after all, if they can't park right, how the hell could they drive safely?

hey Kev, we're not talking about those types of cars... but I think you actually know what I meant.

I agree that most cars are not investments per se (in that they produce little if any monetary return). But, you said they "are NOT and never will be." There are exceptions, as noted.

Just a test.

That probably was a old person they should revoke there license or get tested more hahah

I had a prerunner S10 with almost $20k in suspension and around 1:00 pm this old guy ran into my parked truck on the side of the road. He said he was tired :tap:

A friend of mine was telling me last weekend directly across the street from his work is where old people have to take there dmv driving test in this parking lot. So my buddy and others watch sometimes to laugh and last weekend this guy just started up backed up without looking and someone was driving by needless to say he totalled his car and failed the test. His wife was watching and rushed over to yell at him my friend could hear her yelling at him from where he was standing :rofl:

the buick is as much as old persons car as Scion is a younger persons car. Probablity makes one believe the buick has mainly old people, not ONLY old people.

So your buddy and others watch just to laugh at the elderly... boy, you guys are really A holes!!!

last time I went shopping some old folks ran their shopping into the side of my car after they unloaded it. I picked it upand threw in on their car.....ok so maybe I am tempramental :flame:

Awesome. I would have done the same.

:clap:

You should have thrown the cart AT the people themselves.

Inconsiderate a$$holes.

Being old is not an excuse and it doesn't exempt you from the consequences of your actions as far as I'm concerned.

I jumped out and said "what the hell are you doing!!" I looked at my door and saw a dent and a crack in the paint where her door was resting. "You just dented my car! Why would you do that??" I asked. She got all scared looking and slinked back into her car and shut the door.

$250 fix!!

sorry about you door. Nice to see you handled it with respect for the folks. jumping out of your car and yelling at an old lady. Shame on you. I assume you are perfect and have never had an accident or traffic ticket, never made a mistake in your life? Remember these seniors are the same people who overlooked your mistakes when you were younger. such as. riding your big wheel through their flower gardens, nicks in their car from your tricycle and other stuff.

show some respect, you will be old some day. unless the next time you jump out of the car and yell at some old lady her husband kicks your butt.

F-that. Being elderly doesn't entitle to be an inconsiderate a$$hole. If you can't park without f*cking up other peoples cars, you should have your license revoked. The old man should have taken responsibility for what his stupid old prune of a wife did, just like ANY other responsible adult. Period.

Life is too short to have such strong feelings over a vehicle..it just isn't worth it.

Perhaps the actions, thoughts of action, etc. of some folks in this thread have been intense, but the mere fact that you're a member of scionlife would tell me that you view a Scion as something more than an appliance that gets you from point A to point B.

Door dings, bumper damage, crappy drivers, etc. are all threatening and different people perceive the level of threat and therefore implement their reaction differently. I certainly understand why they'd want to seek revenge, but I surely don't condone it

Revenge is stupid, but just shrugging it off makes you a milquetoast and a pantywaist. Someone deliberately or carelessly damaging your property deserves a response. Maybe even an angry response. Otherwise people never learn to respect others.

I had an elderly lady open her door into my car while I was getting my child out and she didn't even stop walking when I said something to her. I had another rear end me in my 2 day old mustang. I was stopped at a light coming out of a parking lot (Mars grocery store for the elderly) and he bumped me. Wouldn't have done any damage except his license plate was so mangled from run ins with other objects that it damaged my bumper. Of course it is always your word against theirs and they know it. So even the insurance company refused saying I backed into him (his and his wifes claim) I know I will be that old someday but I think after seeing all the people running into stores (I live in florida) and cars running amuck in parking lots that something should be done. Testing yearly at a certain age to make sure they can drive safely (and park too)!!!

Get yourself a tire-thumper (the mini baseball bats that truckers use to check their tires) And, concentrate on the old saying An Eye For An Eye, A Tooth for A Tooth.
then when you get a dent politely GIVE one back! old or young, a dnets a dent!

my dad parks as close to the person as he can. he gets proud of himself at how close he can get w/o hittin the car in front of us

I hate to admit it, but I've been keeping track of my driving "experiences" last week. Since I drive for a living right now as a Parts Runner there are plenty of mishaps for me to be aware of.

And unfortunately, out of the 4 "problems" I had last week, three of them were with older people who were simply not paying attention.

Most ironically, another incident last week was my first glimpse of a tC on the road. I only saw the rear because she cut me off, and then cut two other people off to make a hard right. Not a very good first impression of the car I'm going to buy and she was just as bad if not worse than some of the old people, cuz' she did it intentionally. Stupid _____, giving a bad name to young people and Scion owners.

i don't think that all old drivers are bad. my grandmother for example is a great driver, while i would never ride with my grandfather. I think the main thing that ticks me off about 'some old people' not all is that they don't respect other peoples property. About a week ago i was at the post office and i park next to a old caddilac. You guys prob know the car i am talking about .

well he starts to back out and has his wheel turned and he hits the side of my 1 week old xB and i tell him to pull back in. this guy doesnt even say sorry but just tries to make excuses for himself. luckily for me he hit the rubber strip on the wheel well and i just bent it back into place. It's all about respect though, no matter how old you are everyone should treat others property with respect.

Are you sure that was not some young pimple-snot parking like that? Oh the smug snichery of some pung dudes. BTW please do not challenge to a :blah: it would be so boring. Meanwhile back to my wist and walker