View Full Version : New Clutch & Flywheel Question. (Oem Clutch and Fidanza 9.5lb Flywheel) Guru's Needed
rosedaleny806 12-15-2009, 07:27 PM So just how the title says. I know my clutch is needed to be done soon (104k miles) and its good for the time being but i wanna have the new clutch and flywheel ready when im gonna take it in to a shop.
Now the question is my boy is selling me a BRAND SPANKIN NEW fidanza 9.5lb flywheel for a RIDICULOUS price literally $200+ off retail, But im planning to Mate this with a OEM clutch. now is this Overkill? and will it be horrible to put in a stock clutch? My car is a DD so i want it to drive decent without being annoying.
PLZ chime in all u guru's out there EVERY1
thank you so much!
rosedaleny806 12-15-2009, 07:28 PM BTW what else do i need for an install?? a new clutch with TOB and new flywheel? anything else needed???
crush02342002 12-15-2009, 09:05 PM some aftermarket flywheels require that they be resurfaced first others may not, just read what the mfg recomends. stock clutch should be fine with any flywheel as long as the surface of the flywheel is clean and in good shape.
if it were me i would go ahead and have the flywheel resurfaced just to make sure the clutch breaks in better. I get my flywheels resurfaced for 50bux so its not alot. also always give the new clutch atleast 500 miles of easy driveing or follow mfg suggestion.
most clutch kits come with clutch disk, pressure plate, TOB, and alignment tool. if taking this stuff to a shop you shouldnt need anything els except perhaps a axle nut if they require it. Some say they can do the install without having to take the axle nut off but i feel it is easier to take it off. the reason is to get the driverside shaft way out of the way. The nut is normally partly bent into a groove machined on the axle which requires one to cut part of the nut to get it off without messing up the threads.
more info can be found here http://www.fidanza.com/Aluminum-Flywheels.aspx
bentheswift 12-15-2009, 09:06 PM You don't need a new flywheel unless you want to upgrade to a lightweight one. You can reuse the stock one and the shop that's installing it will likely resurface the old one for you. They are 100% reusable unless they've been resurfaced too many times. For $200 off retail, I have to say I'd go for a Fidanza whether I needed it or not. Most Fidanzas are $330-$375 so $200 off is more than a 50% discount. Also if it's used, you can't resurface them (Fidanza is aluminum with a steel friction surface) -- you can buy a replacement friction plate for about $75 though.
But there's no reason to upgrade the clutch unless the stock one will not hold the power you're making. Exedy makes the stock clutch and they make good clutches. It has a lot of longevity and the feel and travel is reasonable. If you're not making much more power than stock (i.e. forced induction or cams) then there's usually no reason to upgrade the clutch for any car.
I haven't changed the clutch on our tC yet, but if it were me I'd replace the throwout bearing. I come from the MR2 world and all of our trannies have noisy TOBs, but maybe someone else will chime in if that is a common problem for tC trannies.
crush02342002 12-15-2009, 09:30 PM http://www.fidanza.com/Files/flywheelInstructions2.pdf
rosedaleny806 12-15-2009, 10:23 PM so I still need to get this resurfaced even if it is brand new never used??
rosedaleny806 12-16-2009, 06:24 AM ok so I figure im gonna go with this flywheel and an exedy oe clutch which is dirt cheap on ebay. $126-136 shipped. I also know someone who's selling a CC stage 2 for $130 shipped but with all the problems I've been hearing lately with CC I wouldn't even wanna bother with the hassle.
how would driving be with a 9.5lb flywheel? I was talking to someone and they said they'd prefer an 11lb over 9.5 for DD but why is that?
bentheswift 12-16-2009, 02:51 PM so I still need to get this resurfaced even if it is brand new never used??
No, you don't. It should come with an unused steel friction plate. If you don't have one, you need to buy a new one from Fidanza.
I have never used a Fidanza on my tC, but I have had them in several other cars and 9.5lbs is not too aggressive once you get used to it, and you will get used to it fast. But it's a PITA if you let other people drive your car frequently, because they'll usually kill it and then abuse the clutch if they don't know how to drive with it.
rosedaleny806 12-16-2009, 03:23 PM nah its just me driving so no worries about that. it should come with everything brand new ill post a pic when I pick it up today from my friend. but besides that nothing too much to worry bout. so do u suggest mating it with a exedy oe clutch?
thanx man!
DezodDon 12-16-2009, 04:05 PM The thing about light weight flywheels is that they do not store the same potential energy as a heavier flywheel. With that said I will answer your question first.
Yes this will be fine with your car......technically. It will engage, you will be able to drive the car etc.
However light weight flywheels are great and have their ups and downs. Benefits being that they reduce the mass of the rotating assembly allowing for faster engine acceleration. Cons being that because they do not store that same energy that during initial take off or shifting gears the engine slows down much faster making for harsher shifts and an on/off feeling.
WHen most people order light weight flywheels first thing I ask them is how the car is intended to be driven. If it is a street car and you want a lighter flywheel I always recommend the heavier of the two light weight options. If you are auto crossing or track driving I will recommend the lighter one because a lighter one is more suited for those conditions.
Again though, you will be able to use this flywheel and drive the car. You will probably need to give it a little more gas than you are used to on starts to avoid stalling is all.
bentheswift 12-16-2009, 04:52 PM nah its just me driving so no worries about that. it should come with everything brand new ill post a pic when I pick it up today from my friend. but besides that nothing too much to worry bout. so do u suggest mating it with a exedy oe clutch?
thanx man!
Put it with whatever clutch you want. The one you buy from Exedy will probably be the same one that comes in the package from the dealer, except for half the price.
rosedaleny806 12-16-2009, 05:38 PM The thing about light weight flywheels is that they do not store the same potential energy as a heavier flywheel. With that said I will answer your question first.
Yes this will be fine with your car......technically. It will engage, you will be able to drive the car etc.
However light weight flywheels are great and have their ups and downs. Benefits being that they reduce the mass of the rotating assembly allowing for faster engine acceleration. Cons being that because they do not store that same energy that during initial take off or shifting gears the engine slows down much faster making for harsher shifts and an on/off feeling.
WHen most people order light weight flywheels first thing I ask them is how the car is intended to be driven. If it is a street car and you want a lighter flywheel I always recommend the heavier of the two light weight options. If you are auto crossing or track driving I will recommend the lighter one because a lighter one is more suited for those conditions.
Again though, you will be able to use this flywheel and drive the car. You will probably need to give it a little more gas than you are used to on starts to avoid stalling is all.
thanx don for chimign in! i understand the ups and downs from afly wheel, quicker acceleration and the giving it more gas froma stop to avoid stalling, no biggie to me, the car is gonna be a DD never gonna hit atrack or anything like that but there will be times i get on it on the hwy etc. but for the price i had to jump on it cause it was an amazing price 100-120$ but going threw the gears are gonna be harder?? but nothing to worry bout tranny wise no?
Put it with whatever clutch you want. The one you buy from Exedy will probably be the same one that comes in the package from the dealer, except for half the price.
yeah they make a great clutch and its tons cheaper. should i use the exedy TOB or a brand new OEM TOB i have already?
thanx u guys for the help! i really appreciate it
rosedaleny806 12-17-2009, 01:23 PM Pics of the flywheel, i think it was a great buy for alil over 100$ what do u guys think??
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/flywheel8.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/flywheel7.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/flywheel6.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/flywheel5.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/flywheel4.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/Flywheel1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/flywheel2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/flywheel3.jpg
rosedaleny806 12-17-2009, 01:28 PM here are the darker pictures up top ligthneded up sorry
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/flywheel4-1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/KeNO1/flywheel5-1.jpg
DezodDon 12-17-2009, 02:30 PM Shifting will be fine. I was referring to how much RPM the engine will lose between shifts compared to stock. However something that takes about 5 minutes of driving to get used to.
rosedaleny806 12-17-2009, 03:15 PM yeah its basically like getting use to a new cars cluthc or watever. ill jus be learning again. thanx don for the input!
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