View Full Version : 2005 SCION TC, 1200 miles, BEAD of tires breaks from Rim


DilatedDesigns
02-15-2005, 05:12 PM
Anyone else had this happen.

1200 miles into this car, only mods are TEIN coilovers, took a corner I had always taken faster (this time around 35) and the bead breaks off the rim, damages TONS Of parts. Any input on what to do>

PunkInDrublic
02-15-2005, 05:17 PM
Don't want to discourage you but if you take it to the dealer, they may blame the coilovers for allowing you to take corners faster than what the stock car could handle, creating more stress on the tire, leading to tire failure.

DilatedDesigns
02-15-2005, 05:24 PM
Yeah dealer is being ___, lots of damage to the car. itself. Suspension, fender, steering stuff, brakes.

VIP_tC
02-15-2005, 06:32 PM
What was the tire pressure? That is not something that just happens. Usually related to improper tire pressure. Your insurance should cover it though if the dealer doesnt.

LavaBox_v1
02-15-2005, 06:52 PM
Sciongirl81 had the same problem ... she was driving normal and the tread totaly seperated from the rest of the tire

PICS

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/roxygirl1281/firstpicsevo119.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/roxygirl1281/firstpicsevo121.jpg

DilatedDesigns
02-16-2005, 03:58 AM
Tire pressure was checked Saturday AT THE DEALER. I didnt notice any problems, it just happened.

Rim is broken, tie rod bent, and A arm bent, made it out ok so far, they THINK the subframe shifted but arent sure

LavaBox_v1
02-16-2005, 12:49 PM
Any pics ... What did the dealship say about what happen?

Speedpunk
02-16-2005, 03:11 PM
Whoa, those pictures just made me real nervous!

DilatedDesigns
02-16-2005, 11:22 PM
Well heres the pics
Serverly bent tie rod
http://www.hewittsmotorsports.com/scion/P1010005.JPG

Bent lower control arm (front left)
http://www.hewittsmotorsports.com/scion/P1010006.JPG

Broke wheel picture 1 (note there is no point of impact ANYWHERE on the rim or tire)
http://www.hewittsmotorsports.com/scion/P1010007.JPG

Broke wheel picture 2, took a hard hit o the inside of the tire (once again front left) I was taking a RIGHT hand turn
http://www.hewittsmotorsports.com/scion/P1010008.JPG

Sucked the tire RIGHT off the bead, this is what caused the initial problem
http://www.hewittsmotorsports.com/scion/P1010009.JPG

English
02-17-2005, 12:38 AM
DAAAMN! What made all the stuff bend? Did you hit something after your tire seperated?

DilatedDesigns
02-17-2005, 01:32 AM
Yes the tire got sucked to the outside of the wheel, and that yanked me straight into the curb

Carlanga
02-17-2005, 01:54 AM
I don't know man but it looks like a tire wheel fittment or something because you're not the first one that this happens to. I would recommend you TC owners with the stock tires and rims to start _____ing about it(Scion Corp.). Just my 2 cents, but It's your life guys.

DilatedDesigns
02-17-2005, 01:59 AM
Actually it seems the local dealer has now taken a strong interest in this subject and are going to contact Corp. We'll see

SilyOtter
02-17-2005, 02:01 AM
hmmm.. i see literlly dozens of cars a day with any number of tire problems. and that looks like a typical curb hit with a failiure.. but if the dealer wants to get involved.. roll with it!

DilatedDesigns
02-17-2005, 02:29 AM
The tire blew LONG before the curb was hit

DilatedDesigns
02-17-2005, 08:15 PM
So nobody else has any input on this at all?

Has it happened to others?

Lonely_Raven
02-17-2005, 08:24 PM
Yeah, my input is make sure you get this all covered under
warranty!!

And thank you for sharing. Isn't this the second time we've
seen this? Or maybe I'm just looking at your post twice.
I don't recall.

I'm glad you made it out OK though....looks like cheap
tires to me.

HIN_tC
02-17-2005, 09:45 PM
Actually it seems the local dealer has now taken a strong interest in this subject and are going to contact Corp. We'll see

I saw in another forum by another member posted that he had seen newer tCs with Yokohama tires instead of Bridgestone's. Makes you wonder if there is a problems with Bridgestone tires that Scion is aware about. It would be nice if the dealers would put in a word for the customers on this issue.

DilatedDesigns
02-19-2005, 05:18 AM
Just so you know SCION has taken a BIG interest in this problem. They have given a rental car and are paying for ALL repairs, as well as paying for tow bills associated. There is major concern it seems. I will keep you all updated.

Xer0
02-21-2005, 04:02 AM
Just so you know SCION has taken a BIG interest in this problem. They have given a rental car and are paying for ALL repairs, as well as paying for tow bills associated. There is major concern it seems. I will keep you all updated.

Hope everything works out for you. Just curious did you have the bridgestones or the yokohamas?

mfbenson
02-21-2005, 04:16 AM
Just curious, what was the weather like on the day it failed? I've heard of extreme cold or extreme heat causing bead failure before. In fact the one time I've have a bead fail it was about 20 below zero and I hit a pothole... wasn't catastrophic failure like yours but it was bad enough that the air gradually leaked out. This was years ago, not with a Scion...

DilatedDesigns
02-21-2005, 04:23 AM
probably 45 or so nothing crazy, pretty miled here

mfbenson
02-21-2005, 05:00 AM
Hmm. Well, beats me. I bet the dealer will want to query the black box in your car to see when/if the low pressure warning light was on. If it wasn't I can see why they are concerned...

PunkInDrublic
02-21-2005, 05:01 AM
bridgestones or the yokohamas?

Kremtok
02-21-2005, 05:21 AM
From the pictures that he posted, those are Bridgestones. You can read "Potenza" on the second to last photo.

TurboMe
02-21-2005, 05:26 AM
uhh do u realize what tires come stock?

DilatedDesigns
02-21-2005, 02:29 PM
YEah they are Bridgestones

PunkInDrublic
02-21-2005, 02:32 PM
^ Oh

:doh:

PunkInDrublic
02-21-2005, 02:34 PM
uhh do u realize what tires come stock?


Uhh do you realize that after car 35,000 or so, some tCs started coming out with Yokohamas stock? :blah:

DilatedDesigns
02-24-2005, 11:47 PM
Well Scion decided to screw us, they just delayed things and said it was excessive Tire wear, funny they say that about a 1200 mile car. They said they contacted the other person with this similar problem, and said hers was caused by impact as well. Any ideas?

Radiodude
02-25-2005, 12:01 AM
lawyer :tap:

engifineer
02-25-2005, 12:22 AM
uhh do u realize what tires come stock?

uhhh some are coming with the Yoko's.... read the other posts

CBSIMONSEZ
02-25-2005, 12:36 AM
They may be coming with the Yokos cause there are no more Bridgestones to install from the Bridgestone tire maker.

Some things ill never own .... a Ford .... Goodyear tires, and Bridgestone/Firestone brand tires.