View Full Version : Blitz SC with AEM CAI


Derb
02-15-2005, 07:18 PM
I am going to move forward with the purchase of the Blitz SC. I have gone back and forth between the PE SC and the Blitz SC, and have opted to go with Blitz.

Does any one out there know if the Blitz unit will allow the use of my AEM CAI that I paid like $300 bucks for when I bought the car, or it is going to have to go on ebay?

TIA.

hotbox05
02-15-2005, 09:29 PM
It should fit with slight modification

unlmtdndeavor
02-16-2005, 09:45 AM
may i ask why u chose the blitz over the power enterprises. the reason i am asking is because there are a few people running the pe one and they are praising it. and i have yet to hear much good coming from the blitz one

firesquare
02-16-2005, 01:16 PM
i personally like the Blitz blower just because itas been around for a while. and the 3 dial boost controoler is a neat function. ig Jackson Racing stopd scratching themselves and made a blower already, id jump on that before the so called Gretty turbo

Minsk99
02-16-2005, 06:08 PM
may i ask why u chose the blitz over the power enterprises. the reason i am asking is because there are a few people running the pe one and they are praising it. and i have yet to hear much good coming from the blitz one
The pe is centrifugal and the blitz is screw type. They have different characteristics. From what people are saying who have the pe, it isn't really felt until around 3200 rpm. I believe that the blitz starts right from the bottom of the bower band.

Just out of curiosity, what bad things have you heard about the blitz? I know it has a low power / cost ratio, but aside from that? People are always saying "I've heard bad things about the blitz". I'm not doubting you, but what exactly are these bad things people keep alluding to but not being specific about?

KingLou
02-16-2005, 06:14 PM
LOW POWER TO COST RATIO!

The thing isn't worth it.

If it was 1000 bucks..........I MIGHT buy it.

KiL

dgHotLava
02-16-2005, 06:26 PM
the AEM CAI will not fit directly to the blitz or pe...

doesn't the blitz have its own intake?

if you want to still use the AEM you will need a pipe made...
my suggestion is to install the blitz, then see if you want to try adapting the AEM to it...

unlmtdndeavor
02-16-2005, 06:29 PM
may i ask why u chose the blitz over the power enterprises. the reason i am asking is because there are a few people running the pe one and they are praising it. and i have yet to hear much good coming from the blitz one
The pe is centrifugal and the blitz is screw type. They have different characteristics. From what people are saying who have the pe, it isn't really felt until around 3200 rpm. I believe that the blitz starts right from the bottom of the bower band.

Just out of curiosity, what bad things have you heard about the blitz? I know it has a low power / cost ratio, but aside from that? People are always saying "I've heard bad things about the blitz". I'm not doubting you, but what exactly are these bad things people keep alluding to but not being specific about?

well yes, one of the main reasons is the lack of power this product produces. secondly is the lack up "upgradability" of this system. to up the boost, you would need a custom pully, which blitz does not make. also, having an electric clutch draws more power from the engine compared to a standard pulley setup on the power enterprises

Tamago
02-16-2005, 07:22 PM
oh gimme abreak, do you know how much power the electric clutch pulls? next to nothing!

quadoptix
02-16-2005, 07:27 PM
blitz is currently reworking the s/c setup to put out more power...they know that its not running to its potential, so it can be a 100% reliable kit. so they reworking it for more power output...hks is also workin on a turbo setup as well =)

unlmtdndeavor
02-16-2005, 07:34 PM
blitz is currently reworking the s/c setup to put out more power...they know that its not running to its potential, so it can be a 100% reliable kit. so they reworking it for more power output...hks is also workin on a turbo setup as well =)

id reconsider the blitz depending on the new power output and cost.

DibujoB
02-16-2005, 07:47 PM
On our project xB we were running both the blitz s/c and the AEM CAI. Worked fine, there were no issues.

It was an absolute blast to drive, it was much more powerful than stock and the selector switch was a neat addition.

Would I pay the $ myself for my own car? No. It didn't make that much of a difference. Was it awesome to have on a car I didn't have to pay for it on? Oh yeah!

quadoptix
02-16-2005, 07:48 PM
same price...just tryign to make it better than what it already is..i dont know when its gonna be done though. my friends car is in there gettin all that stuff done.

hotbox05
02-16-2005, 08:33 PM
I dunno , it's hard for me to get behind a motor that can only take 7psi or so on a daily interval (safely anyway) Now if someone can make a decent 7psi kit for cheap , I'll be all over it.

quadoptix
02-16-2005, 10:01 PM
huh? well point is this motor cant take much abuse..it wasnt built and designed for it.. uwant speed get an evo =) those r fun for the going price =

squirrel
02-16-2005, 10:28 PM
Yeah, waiting to see if the pulley will still eat up the hp or not. Great gains in torque, but hp loss due to the pulley set-up.

firesquare
02-17-2005, 12:33 AM
you want a little you loose a little

nuff said.

whats the story on the Blitz S/C and where did you read the news?

links please :-)

quadoptix
02-17-2005, 02:16 AM
oh haha as far as that goes, my friend is full sponsored by them w/ his car..his car was in super street in their scion issue sometime back..that and i buy a lot of stuff from blitz wholesale etc etc etc and i been buggin them bout tthe s/c lol

firesquare
02-17-2005, 04:22 AM
cool

im gonna pick up the blitz blower anyways no matter what people say. i like the way it looks and i like the 3 stage boost setting

quadoptix
02-17-2005, 04:40 AM
thats good man. =)

DibujoB
02-17-2005, 01:43 PM
It is a lot of fun. Not going to blow the doors off anything, except maybe stock xB's. :)

I was glad Blitz helped hook us up with the kit, and I do miss that car. Unfortunately my boss didn't want to give it to me when I stopped working there. :rofl:

Derb
02-17-2005, 07:23 PM
Just getting back to this thread to see what everyone was writing.

To respond to why I'm going the Blitz route and not the PE. It's pretty simple. The PE might yeild a few more ponies, but I'm looking at the SC as more than strickly a power upgrade. The PE unit looks like a smog compressor to be honest with you. Just a different design... I want to be able to pop the hood and see a blower, not another pump on top of the motor.

The Blitz unit looks a lot better and my plan is to polish the the main intake tube off the top of the unit just as it looks on the review photo.

I've also read that I can expect a bit more of the typical SC "whissle" from the Blitz unit. Way too cool if you ask me. And before everyone writes, no, I'm not expecting the type of sounds you get from a big block chevy that might have an 851 whipple on it....

Yeah, it's a pricey upgrade, but aside from an engine swap or tearing into the motor (neither of which I'm willing to do), it's about the only way to get some respectable HP out of the box-considering I've already done the DC header and Magnaflow exhaust.

Minsk99
02-17-2005, 08:03 PM
Just getting back to this thread to see what everyone was writing.

To respond to why I'm going the Blitz route and not the PE. It's pretty simple. The PE might yeild a few more ponies, but I'm looking at the SC as more than strickly a power upgrade. The PE unit looks like a smog compressor to be honest with you. Just a different design... I want to be able to pop the hood and see a blower, not another pump on top of the motor.

The Blitz unit looks a lot better and my plan is to polish the the main intake tube off the top of the unit just as it looks on the review photo.

I've also read that I can expect a bit more of the typical SC "whissle" from the Blitz unit. Way too cool if you ask me. And before everyone writes, no, I'm not expecting the type of sounds you get from a big block chevy that might have an 851 whipple on it....

Yeah, it's a pricey upgrade, but aside from an engine swap or tearing into the motor (neither of which I'm willing to do), it's about the only way to get some respectable HP out of the box-considering I've already done the DC header and Magnaflow exhaust.
You might consider waiting a bit as it sounds like Blitz is in the works with a bit more power out of their blower. Who knows, you might get all you wanted and a bit more hp.
blitz is currently reworking the s/c setup to put out more power...they know that its not running to its potential, so it can be a 100% reliable kit. so they reworking it for more power output...hks is also workin on a turbo setup as well =)

Tamago
02-17-2005, 08:57 PM
i can guarantee that the current blitz can be tuned up easily, as the blower itself is capable of over 25PSI.. it's a LYSHOLM 1200AX if i'm not mistaken..

the blitz is only ELECTRONICALLY hampered from producing more power, it's mechanically FINE...

out of curiosity, what are the diameters of the drive and driven pulleys on the blitz?

Ashe_WCM
02-17-2005, 10:43 PM
Heh, I put one of these on, and I'll never keep up with my class :P
I would kill if they made it a factory option tho.. :)

hotbox05
02-18-2005, 11:07 AM
i can guarantee that the current blitz can be tuned up easily, as the blower itself is capable of over 25PSI.. it's a LYSHOLM 1200AX if i'm not mistaken..

the blitz is only ELECTRONICALLY hampered from producing more power, it's mechanically FINE...

out of curiosity, what are the diameters of the drive and driven pulleys on the blitz?Thats the thing the blitz uses a electric clutch as the pulley so..... to up the psi you need to find a way of getting around that clutch.

Tamago
02-18-2005, 02:44 PM
no, the pulley does not control the PSI.. the pulley is on/off, it does not slip. it's the air bypass valve that sets the PSI

Tamago
02-18-2005, 02:46 PM
Heh, I put one of these on, and I'll never keep up with my class :P
I would kill if they made it a factory option tho.. :)

paint it black, and if anyone asks, tell them it's a SUPER COMPRESSOR for your AC ;)

hotbox05
02-18-2005, 11:24 PM
no, the pulley does not control the PSI.. the pulley is on/off, it does not slip. it's the air bypass valve that sets the PSIIn any supercharger setup the size of the pulley dictates the psi (mechanically) , I was not referring to the air bypass.

Tamago
02-19-2005, 12:26 PM
no, the pulley does not control the PSI.. the pulley is on/off, it does not slip. it's the air bypass valve that sets the PSIIn any supercharger setup the size of the pulley dictates the psi (mechanically) , I was not referring to the air bypass.

yes, the pulley dictates the max PSI, but i'll bet you that the blitz isn't even using it's current pulley to it's full potential.

quadoptix
02-20-2005, 05:31 AM
no its not..they want it to be a fully reliable setup and they dont want the motor blowing up and for their product to be the cause..they built it on the underrated side..

KingLou
02-20-2005, 05:40 AM
And slapped an overpriced tag on it unfortunately.

KiL

quadoptix
02-20-2005, 06:10 AM
ur payin for the brand. if you want to get a cheaper setup, go build one urself. =)

hotbox05
02-20-2005, 06:29 AM
ur payin for the brand. if you want to get a cheaper setup, go build one urself. =)Yeah you could build a decent supercharger kit for say......1500 including a new clutch , engine management , and the supercharger plus the longer belt , and custom bracketry and piping.

quadoptix
02-20-2005, 06:40 AM
then why is he _____ing? jsut got out n build one =)

DibujoB
02-21-2005, 10:35 PM
I think some of you are missing the point. Sure the Blitz could put up to 25psi and it limited only electronically, but don't forget to think about this:

Try running more than 7 psi in the stock 1NZ-FE motor for your daily driver and see what happens. You can get plenty of boost out of the Blitz s/c, but the little motor just can't take it without some serious work.

Jon from SPFR did some estimates on how much it would cost to polish and port the engine, and beef up the internals to handle extra boost....he ball parked it at about $8k-$10k including the booster.

Not worth it IMO. I really had fun driving our s/c car at about 5.5psi. It was faster than stock, but the real joy was having something not too many others had. It's still a slow car.

As much as I would like to see someone with a 200hp xB, I say for the money (sorry king lou) go buy a fast car.

:silly:

hotbox05
02-21-2005, 10:42 PM
I think some of you are missing the point. Sure the Blitz could put up to 25psi and it limited only electronically, but don't forget to think about this:

Try running more than 7 psi in the stock 1NZ-FE motor for your daily driver and see what happens. You can get plenty of boost out of the Blitz s/c, but the little motor just can't take it without some serious work.

Jon from SPFR did some estimates on how much it would cost to polish and port the engine, and beef up the internals to handle extra boost....he ball parked it at about $8k-$10k including the booster.

Not worth it IMO. I really had fun driving our s/c car at about 5.5psi. It was faster than stock, but the real joy was having something not too many others had. It's still a slow car.

As much as I would like to see someone with a 200hp xB, I say for the money (sorry king lou) go buy a fast car.

:silly:Oh yeah most of us know this to be true but the blitz is only putting out 6psi.

dgHotLava
02-21-2005, 11:02 PM
i would love a 200hp box....if i can find the right parts i'm all for it...

hotbox05
02-21-2005, 11:45 PM
i would love a 200hp box....if i can find the right parts i'm all for it...MOTOR SWAP. lol with forced induction preferably .

dgHotLava
02-22-2005, 02:35 AM
well i got part of it going already.....lol

JDM_Junkyard
03-21-2005, 04:57 PM
heard from a friend that did the installs for these blitz kits, that the fuel in the US sucks, so that is why we can't boost more. Also the PE kit comes with injectors, and a fuel pump, which can help boost the power, by adding additional fuel..making it a little more reliable then the blitz (for US use)

As for me, the PE kit isn't even an option..since it doesn't fit in a Xa, so I'm looking into the Blitz as well. heard a new piggy back besides the blitz might help.

dgHotLava
03-21-2005, 09:02 PM
PE does not come with injectors...just pump...

JDM_Junkyard
03-21-2005, 10:53 PM
PE does not come with injectors...just pump...

sorry...thought it came with injectors when I saw the picture of the parts breakdown.