Has anyone did a Clifford RSX 3.5 alarm on a tC? I want that alarm, and plan to get it.

They are selling it for 189 + 18 shipping/handling on eBay... does that included everything or do I still need to buy that 555X or 555U thing.

I've never delt with alarms, but seen a few installs that look messy and all that wire and crap gets bundled up and shoved up behind the dash.

That is why I am nervous about getting it and having hell installing it. Any one who got this installed and have tutorial I would greatly appreciate it.

i think you do need the bypass unit, 555U i think.
below is what i got from a post, hope you can use the info. i wanted to do my own install but end up paying.

12volts
red (30A), white (25A)
+
ignition harness


Starter black + ignition harness
Second Starter green + ignition harness
Ignition blue + ignition harness
Second Ignition yellow + ignition harness
Third Ignition N/A
Accessory gray + ignition harness
Second Accessory N/A
Keysense black - ignition harness
Power Lock green to blue - driver kick, 20 pin plug, pin 15
Power Unlock purple to pink (double pulse) - driver kick, 20 pin plug, pin 14
Lock Motor blue to brown 5wi driver kick, gray 7 pin plug, pin 6
Unlock Motor pink to blue 5wi driver kick, gray 7 pin plug, pin 5
Parking Lights+ brown + top of fuse box, 30 pin plug, pin 29
Parking Lights- brown - headlight switch
Hazards orange - hazard switch
Turn Signal(L) yellow + top of fuse box, 30 pin plug, pin 27
Turn Signal(R) green + top of fuse box, 30 pin plug, pin 28
Reverse Light pink + top of fuse box, 14 pin plug, pin 2
Door Trigger orange (D), blue (P) - top of fuse box
Dome Supervision blue - L side of fusebox, 6 pin plug, pin 2
Trunk/Hatch Pin purple - top of fuse box, 30 pin plug, pin 7
Hood Pin N/A
Trunk/Hatch Release orange - driver kick, gry 12 pin plug, pin 12
Power Sliding Door N/A
Factory Alarm Arm arms with lock
Factory Alarm Disarm disarms with unlock
Disarm No Unlock use key sense wire
Tachometer black ac data link conn. under dash, pin 9
Wait to start N/A
Brake Wire blue + brake pedal switch
Parking Brake black - parking brake switch
Horn Trigger white - steering column
Memory Seat 1 N/A
Memory Seat 2 N/A
Memory Seat 3 N/A


Immobilizer Bypass Module

I owned a viper alarm back a few years ago and it totally crapped out on me. First, the alarm went off and stayed going off....then because it was going off, it cut my starter power. Mind you, the alarm worked great for a few years but this was the result of years of aging. My real question, via this reply, is if I get a new alarm system, what is going to happen to my brand new car a few years down the road??? There is no way in hell I can go through that again but on the other end, I want to keep it protected. can someone post a reply just so I have a reference. Has anybody heard of this happening? Are alarms now that much better then 3 years ago? Any reply would be helpful. thanks

i installed a Clifford Matrix 3.2 in a TC and it was pretty straightfoward. it was my first alarm so it took a while. i dont' have a tutorial but i can give you hints. i hope you are familiar with a multimeter.

- driver's door trigger was found in the underdash fuse panel. the passenger door trigger was also supposed to be here but i could not find it. instead, i found it in the passenger kick panel. it will show a voltage 5-12volts when the door is closed and 0V when the door is open. you must diode isolate the wires.

- i installed the hood pin on the driver's side of the engine bay along the fender. i just put it in the empty hole near the front.

- there are two starter wires and they both need to be cut and tied together if you are wiring up a starter kill /antigrind relay.

- don't bother wiring up the trunk release because the trunk will not unlock unless the car is disarmed. this makes it worthless because you can unlock the rear hatch with two presses of the unlock.

- tie the 2nd unlock wire AND the diarm/unlock wire to the car's unlock wire.

- do not need dome supervision wire because the car has the feature from the factory.

- keysense wire not required unless you have the factory alarm.

- solder all your electrical connections and properly apply electrical tape to them. use the good kind or else you will find it will come off with heat.

those are just all the things i thought off the top of my head. let me know if you have any other questions.

I got the clifford responder, also known as the rsx 3.5. Since i am not too familiar with the electrical system in cars, and didn't want to f up my brand new car, i left it to the professionals. The install took them all day (dropped of my car at 9am, picked it up at 4pm) and they charged me 650 total. Since your messing with the starter with this kit, i just didnt feel that i was experienced enough to handle this. My advice owuld be to get it done professionally if your not experienced at this, atleast this way if something goes wrong its the company's fault and they have to fix it for you for free.

i agree with jrv2000, if you do not have any idea about what i mentioned in the previous post, you probably shouldn't attempt this.

however, if you are DIY-er then this is a fun project and i'd be willing to walk you through it.

if you get a professional to do it, try shopping for a better price. 650 seems a bit high.

556u works, i got it in mine..........i would recommend grinding down the key you give up so if they find it they can't use it

since the chip is in the head of the key, can't you just cut off the entire tooth part of the key?

you could but the tooth part of the key helps hold the key in place inside the 555u/556u immobilizer bypass unit.

with my viper I had free repair if something broke but the place that installed it shut down and you had to have a certified viper dealer to fix it....so I took it out. There is no way in hell I would do this myself. Can someone help me pick one of the best ones out? ( I want it to have everything and very very good quality)

alarms are much better quality and have more features than they have in the past. DEI, makers of viper, clifford, and other brands are well known for their quality.

Thanks for all the inputs, yeah... I know what those are saying about having a pro do it. They charge $599.99 + Tax with install at the local store.

My plan was to get the alarm from eBay and have an installer do a side job and pay them that way.

that's what i do. my side job is an installer and we charge way less. way to support us.

Exactly

Its not like they don't want the money... Thats why they work right? But most of the money goes to the company to pay for all the overhead cost (building, utilities, etc.).

what I need to know is what models are the best and the best prices for them. ...that way i dont get ripped off

you can get the viper 791xv or clifford rsx 3.5 on ebay for less than 200. you'll have to install it yourself or get someone to do it on the side. i don't think an authorized DEI dealer will install a DEI alarm that wasn't purchased at their store.

if you plan on purchasing the alarm at the store and getting it installed there, prices vary by location and store so you'll have to shop around. ask them what features are included in the installation because often times , they will charge extra for adding different features while other shops include that in the installation price. good luck.

I got mine installed for $285 (that's with taxes in Los Angeles, Remote Start option, and the Install) I think that's the best price i've seen around. Good ol' San Gabriel Valley :bow:

ucsdpinoy where did u get it in the san gabriel valley???? please let me know

I got mine installed for $285 (that's with taxes in Los Angeles, Remote Start option, and the Install) I think that's the best price i've seen around. Good ol' San Gabriel Valley :bow:

wow nice price. thats not including the purchase price of the alarm itself right? and was the work guaranteed at all?

thanks!

I got mine installed for $285 (that's with taxes in Los Angeles, Remote Start option, and the Install) I think that's the best price i've seen around. Good ol' San Gabriel Valley :bow:

Where's this place? That's a hell of a good deal. Is this their standard rate or did you get hooked up?

I think has to be some hookup, thats just way too low.

I think other business would have one heck of a time competing at that rate.

Since the alarm itself is $200.00 at least. Plus 25-50 bucks for that immoblizer.

I doubt any installer would be happy with just $40-$60 profit.

Thats the thing I hate about people who post how cheap they can get stuff. Its not like everyone can get it at that cost.... BRAGING is what it sounds like.

^^^^I agree, it was a hookup because they charge 200 for the alarm alone, its the labor on the install thats costs the most

I got the clifford responder, also known as the rsx 3.5. Since i am not too familiar with the electrical system in cars, and didn't want to f up my brand new car, i left it to the professionals. The install took them all day (dropped of my car at 9am, picked it up at 4pm) and they charged me 650 total. Since your messing with the starter with this kit, i just didnt feel that i was experienced enough to handle this. My advice owuld be to get it done professionally if your not experienced at this, atleast this way if something goes wrong its the company's fault and they have to fix it for you for free.


Whew $650 is A LOT! I got mine installed for $285 lifetime warranty from the installer

I think has to be some hookup, thats just way too low.

I think other business would have one heck of a time competing at that rate.

Since the alarm itself is $200.00 at least. Plus 25-50 bucks for that immoblizer.

I doubt any installer would be happy with just $40-$60 profit.

Thats the thing I hate about people who post how cheap they can get stuff. Its not like everyone can get it at that cost.... BRAGING is what it sounds like.

This was NOT a hook up. It's on San Gabriel Valley Blvd. at an Audio Store called "Kembo Audio"

I was just lucky to find this place in one of those Asian Magazines you get at Ranch 99 haha

It was $285 for EVERYTHING!

Alarm AND Install AND Remote Start.

It's the San Gabriel/Alahambra area, the home of a lot of car crap haha :bow:

I got the clifford responder, also known as the rsx 3.5. Since i am not too familiar with the electrical system in cars, and didn't want to f up my brand new car, i left it to the professionals. The install took them all day (dropped of my car at 9am, picked it up at 4pm) and they charged me 650 total. Since your messing with the starter with this kit, i just didnt feel that i was experienced enough to handle this. My advice owuld be to get it done professionally if your not experienced at this, atleast this way if something goes wrong its the company's fault and they have to fix it for you for free.


Whew $650 is A LOT! I got mine installed for $285 lifetime warranty from the installer

For the area that I live in, that was actually one of the cheapest places, I wish I lived near the San Gabriel/Alahambra area

hey ucsdpinoy i went to clifford.com and put in the zipcode of kembo audio and they dont show up. are they even clifford certified? maybe that was why it was so cheap. no disrespect.

Probably not a "certified" clifford place, but they do a lot of installs on luxury Cars and imports.
Still

$650 for "certified" vs $285 at a great local shop.

People around San Gabriel/Alahambra Area understand.

But hey, as long as you get Clifford, i'm not hating :clap:

Probably not a "certified" clifford place, but they do a lot of installs on luxury Cars and imports.
Still

$650 for "certified" vs $285 at a great local shop.

People around San Gabriel/Alahambra Area understand.

But hey, as long as you get Clifford, i'm not hating :clap:


was the work guaranteed? and have you had any electrical problems ever since? thanks!

Probably not a "certified" clifford place, but they do a lot of installs on luxury Cars and imports.
Still

$650 for "certified" vs $285 at a great local shop.

People around San Gabriel/Alahambra Area understand.

But hey, as long as you get Clifford, i'm not hating :clap:


was the work guaranteed? and have you had any electrical problems ever since? thanks!

Guaranteed for life! and had NO problems what so ever.
Like i said, they are pretty known around the area. Lots of people go there, its just not known, just to us Locals know of it :P
I wouldn't take my car to some ghetto a$s place :nope:

damn i'm heading to the SGV! yo u got a number to the store or address?? One last question did u get the manuals and stuff, u sure it wasn't refurbished or opened?

damn i'm heading to the SGV! yo u got a number to the store or address?? One last question did u get the manuals and stuff, u sure it wasn't refurbished or opened?

Their address is 207 S. SAN GABRIEL BLVD its next to this Nice Rims place, they have a kick a$s SL500 with spinners in there.

Anyways, it's new, as i said before, i'm not gonna go to some crappy place. Yes i did get the manuals, warranty card, receipt and the box too! :rofl:

ok G'luck.

This was NOT a hook up. It's on San Gabriel Valley Blvd. at an Audio Store called "Kembo Audio"

I was just lucky to find this place in one of those Asian Magazines you get at Ranch 99 haha

It was $285 for EVERYTHING!

Alarm AND Install AND Remote Start.

It's the San Gabriel/Alahambra area, the home of a lot of car crap haha :bow:

UCSDPinoy, I live in the area. I tried looking up the place on yahoo, but I can't find anything. Do you have a business card or a phone number or something? Have you had any problems to this day with the installation? Thanks!

hey, i work at circuit city, and i am not trying to make a plug, but if you bring all the materials the remote start alarm, keyless entry install price is around 160 for labor, just so all you guys know. And what is the immoblizer everyone is talking about, i am very interested in getting a DEI alarm in my tC but i am just not sure about the keyless entry on the vehical right now. Is this immoblizer bypass something that will work with the existing keyless entry system.

I just think having a key like we do and not function for it is a little silly ya know, and what about the factory scion security system??? how good is that.

This was NOT a hook up. It's on San Gabriel Valley Blvd. at an Audio Store called "Kembo Audio"

I was just lucky to find this place in one of those Asian Magazines you get at Ranch 99 haha

It was $285 for EVERYTHING!

Alarm AND Install AND Remote Start.

It's the San Gabriel/Alahambra area, the home of a lot of car crap haha :bow:

UCSDPinoy, I live in the area. I tried looking up the place on yahoo, but I can't find anything. Do you have a business card or a phone number or something? Have you had any problems to this day with the installation? Thanks!

I believe their number is 626-292-7660. the address is above. k g'luck.

What do these mean?

Power Lock green to blue - driver kick, 20 pin plug, pin 15
Power Unlock purple to pink (double pulse) - driver kick, 20 pin plug, pin 14

I don't get the "color" to "color" ?

it means that it will be one of those 2 colors. it varies from car to car.

Moved.

If you are going to put an alarm on this car use the VIPER 791 XV -- much better parts inside the brain... no matter what anyone tells u, the viper line from DEI is way better than the clifford stuff.. you cant get any better than the 791. this alarm gives you the most "add on" features available.. for example back up batteries, Mini Piezo sirens (Highly recommend) - emits a sound at such a frequency that will cause a ruptured eardrum and is used as a pain generator for the inside of your car! i have 4 2 under my dash in my tc and 2 in the back left and right sides of my hatch hidden in the panels.. if u have a 5 speed DO NOT CONNECT THE REMOTE START... yes it is possible... but if u see your car driving by itself its because u left it in gear... True story! happened at my install bay... guy went out to his car... forgot his lunch in the store, forgot he put car in gear before he got out, while he was inside started talking to someone and said to himself, hey its rather cold... maybe ill warm my car up... forgetting he put it in gear... his car reversed by itself out of the spot and went 50 feet across the lot and slammed into a services van. see these alarm brains cause enough RPM's for the car to go into gear without physically pushing the clutch in... i wouldnt recommend hooking it up...

Also with the 791.. u have a range (personally tested) of about a mile and a quarter on a clear day. so you will know what is going on with your car if you are within that range... i have heard the clifford is about a half mile.

Tips about installing :
Set up a direct techs account..
or get in touch with me and ill get you all of the install steps.. i do these alarms almost 5 days a week this time of year

-- place the antenna at the top center of your windshield above ur mirror and push the wires above the headliner and come down the drivers a pillar! this will give you the best signal!


anything else just ask me... i get paid to do this everyday for the past 3 years

and by the way color to color does not mean it will be one of those two.. it means that it starts as a "green" and changes to "purple" -- do not confuse that... also remember to hook up your double pulse....

Why do I have to hook up double pulse? I tagged a wire for lock and wire for unlock in the drivers panel. All doors unlock and all doors lock without double pulsing.

(Not arguing...just trying to see)

Can the alarm be set up to act like the factory alarm? unlock once drivers door, unlock twice for hatch and passenger door?

mine needed a double pulse urs may not have.. in order to do a single button drivers side twice for the rest of the doors u need to use a relay and a diode... i dont know how to do this only for the mere fact that i have never been asked to. i frankly think it would be a waste of time and money in the aspect of the car locks all the doors by itself once u pull away anyway... what would be the point? what alarm have u gone with

I got the code alarm av670. Working like a champ at the moment. Only thing I had to change since the install was I had originally tagged the dome light wire for door triggers for simplicity, but that prevented me from arming the alarm fully since the dome light signal is there for a good time after the doors are closed.

So, I just tagged the doors and hatch seperately as I should have done in the first place.