Deja Vu? Seems like a lot of the comments coming from the tC community are familiar.

Official 2011 Scion tC Thread (2nd gen) (http://scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184134)

A sampling:

- What do you guys think of the new look?? I don't like the interior at all
- This is a total let down in my pov
- Hhahahahahaha the back is TERRIBLE
- i actually like our tc's better in the way that it looks interior and exterior.
- Nothing can save the rear.
- I much prefer the current interior to the new one
- its official: the Scion brand is dead
- the only thing I requested for the new tC was that it looks uglier, with only a minimal upgrade in power. Looks like they listened.

I'm torn between laughing at the irony or being empathetic to the now 1gen tC owners. What do you think?

hahahaha, we had to deal with 2nd gen xbs, now they get to experience the wrath of terrible next gen scions. love it. although, i absolutely love the new iQ. i really want one! especially that neon green color.

sad for the brand

I'm empathetic to the tC owners, and all scion owners really. I was really hoping for something better. The scion brand overall has really been disappointing lately, and I doubt I'll be buying another car from them. A shame really...

While yes, it's kinda funny... Scion as a whole needs help.

Amen.

Scion Reps need to be more active and listen to the current owners. Read scionlife!!

Scion Reps need to be more active and listen to the current owners. Read scionlife!!

Honestly I think Scionlife is far from Scion's average owner. As has been mentioned in other threads, contrary to popular belief, many Scion owners have nothing to do with Scionlife and are very likely polar opposites of many SL users.

Would it be nice if they'd get some input from SL people now and then? Ya, maybe...

Well according to the service manager at my local dealer, himself, as well as corporate does check in on Scion forums.

Who knows if he was just lying through his teeth, or if he was serious about it.

But like what ack said, the majority of Scion owners are not on Scion Life, or any Scion forum.

Well according to the service manager at my local dealer, himself, as well as corporate does check in on Scion forums.

Who knows if he was just lying through his teeth, or if he was serious about it.

But like what ack said, the majority of Scion owners are not on Scion Life, or any Scion forum.
I'm sure they do check in to this forum and a few others. They'd be stupid not to. Just like reading comments on sites like Autoblog.

But you can't believe that they'd run their business based on what their reading. Get input? Ya... All decisions? No way.

No, I know that corporate and dealers do read SL, but you need to consider the masses... most of the people who own first gen xBs aren't us, but old people.

Despite the fact that we're a large community and more enthusiastic than most, we're still a minority in the big picture of car sales.

yea but we are still humans...I dont think any of us enjoy the look of the rear and the offset of the lines. I really wanna know who designed the tC.

yea but we are still humans...I dont think any of us enjoy the look of the rear and the offset of the lines. I really wanna know who designed the tC.

It's a little bit too late for that, lol.
There's no going back and changing the design anymore.

Although what would be nice would be receiving a survey/input form in the mail that would be sent to all current owners.

Asking what they currently enjoy about the current models, and what they would like to see in new models.

If the median age of the average 1gen driver is 40+, then Scion isn't doing good on their marketing. I thought the whole point of the brand was to lower the age of Toyota owners. Shouldn't they be designing cars for the youger generation? I'm sure it boils down to # of total cars sold vs. buyer age, and total sales wins. Would it be so bad though if they sold less but to a predominately young crowd? Let the old people buy something with a Toyota badge.

I'm reminded of what everyone told me when the xB2 came out. Even though it has the same name, it's not made for people who already own Scions. Most would not buy another so soon anyway, and corporate would rather current owners move up to a more expensive Toyota or Lexus rather than another Scion anyway. The tC2 is probably made for people who don't own a tC, and the design changes probably centered around attracting the new market.

I'd love to see comments from the general auto community, outside of Scion owners to see what fresh eyes think.

Well, I saw the release at the university I go to. As the countdown finally came to a still, people gathered by the masses. When we all looked at the pictures, there was definitely a consensus on what was good vs bad. People were at an awe for the first couple of pictures but as we progressed to the pictures on the rear of the tC...lol this is when people's reaction quickly took a 180. Nobody liked the rear until we saw the five axis design.

People :wink: enjoyed the front of the standard tC and rear of the five axis tC.

People :icon_redface: disgusted by the rear of the standard tC and the front of the five axis tC.

screw scion and screw toyotas.... and their faulty gas pedals!

........

yea screw them all lulz

Lol my wife says its still a chick car and will all ways be a chick car

in my honest opinion, i love it. its all a matter of getting use to it and letting it grow on us. i was the same way about the nissan cube, and the new civics but just wait and see what the scion people do with this beast! i may not be the first to say that, but i'm excited for this to come out. i'll consider it.

to be honest. i really don't have too many issue's with the new tC. while the pictures from the exterior haven't impressed me. it isn't terrible. the angle of rooflines look kind of questionable, but i initially thought all the first gen scions looked strange in pictures, they look better in person, so i'll wait until i actually see a new tC to decide on appearance.

the rest is give and take. tC owner's have constantly whined for more performance and a 6 speed manual and more MPG, so here is the second gen tC with...bigger enginemore power, sport tuned suspension, bigger brakes, and a 6 speed manual OR AUTOMATIC, and better MPG. on the con side, the interior looks considerably lower rent than the current tC, but i think it was give and take to try and meet a certain price point and give you more in some areas and less in the others. besides, interiors are easy to upgrade and customize to your hearts desire. so if the interior isn't to you liking...DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOURSELF!

i'm not being a scion nut hugger or a brand loyalist, just saying people need to shut up and realize scion did listen to what current owners were asking for and gave you what they could.

lol...we didnt ask for that hideous rear.

Slam it to the ground , some wheels , killer tunes and my wife wants one.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO TC!

Slam it to the ground , some wheels , killer tunes and my wife wants one.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO TC!

that's all cars.

drop + wheels = instant improvement.

that's all cars.

drop + wheels = instant improvement.

LOL not all

yeah lets drop+wheels on a lambo that = instant improvement right ........lol

Looks nice but interior got to go...performance 6 sppeed better handling hell yah:come:

If the price is right. I'll be rocking one this fall

lol...we didnt ask for that hideous rear.

if you said the FUSE concept looked cool, then you said you wanted a rear that looks like that.

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs491.snc3/26838_109809372374600_107485019273702_164790_4503527_n.jpg

its cool

Will have to see it in person to make judgement... currently, I like it...

i want the rims

you xB owners like it because it the rear resembles a box.

We like it because it looks like much less of a chick car!
180 hp is good for the money. 6 speed, naiceeee. :biggrin:
The tC is so common at my college it almost outnumbers Cavaliers! And mostly girls are driving them for certain.

The xB was a much much worse first redesign. This tC one is good.

Whoever said sticky gas pedals, how many people have really had this happen? The person probably hit the wrong pedal, people aren't too intelligent these days.


Go Toyota and Scion!

Wow, somehow I knew this was going to turn into a thread about the tC2 itself, and not the initial topic. There's already a thread to comment on the new design, two actually.

I made this mainly as a lighthearted post about current tC owners reactions to the new design, not a direct critique on the design itself. I just thought it a bit funny a lot of what I read was the same thing we said about the xB2 when it came out, without much sympathy from the tC crowd.

wow, somehow i knew this was going to turn into a thread about the tc2 itself, and not the initial topic. There's already a thread to comment on the new design, two actually.

I made this mainly as a lighthearted post about current tc owners reactions to the new design, not a direct critique on the design itself. I just thought it a bit funny a lot of what i read was the same thing we said about the xb2 when it came out, without much sympathy from the tc crowd.



i went and read some of the 30 or so pages on the new tc
lol better than the sunday funnies

ps , i lost my caps lock key again

i thought it was a 2 door Charger at first glance but that was scanning from back to front.

i thought it was a 2 door Charger at first glance but that was scanning from back to front.

Couldn't be a charger... chargers are hella boxy... almost more boxy than the box. :rofl:

first time ive seen or heard of this.dam looks pretty sweet..

It is barely a redesign, more like an "update" hahaha.

Our xB got overhauled (made into a fat Camry) so we had room to complain.

Definitely not fealing the fat camery... I do like the Dhiatsu Materia though, just needs a full brand change though to make it look good.

i wonder what chassis updates have been made. probably based on the latest generation toyota avensis chassis like the pervious tc was based off the last gen avensis.

It is barely a redesign, more like an "update" hahaha.

Our xB got overhauled (made into a fat Camry) so we had room to complain.
Exactly right! tC owners got nothing to complain about like we did. Their replacement is a modern updated version. Our xB replacement was a complete abomination.

Exactly right! tC owners got nothing to complain about like we did. Their replacement is a modern updated version. Our xB replacement was a complete abomination.
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