I need help.. I cannot understand the manual on how to put these window visors on.

Can anybody help?

you have a copy of the instructions?

First off, I would forget about the clips that come with it. The 3m tape seems to have worked fine for everyone that I have talked to. Mine have been on for around six months with no problems. One suggestion I have is to start by just removing the backing of the tape at the corners. That way if you don't center it right you can pop it off and try again. Once all four are aligned correctly, grab the corner of the tape that you have bent back and pull it off (while the visors are still tacked on). Then press firmly to stick them on well. Also, don't use the cleaning pad they give you to pre-clean the surface. Some have reported paint damage from using it. Just make sure its nice and clean before putting them on.

the 3m tape works perfect. the clips are a little tricky, but you can put them on for the hell of it. by doing so, just use the rubber plug and that plastic piece that fills in the hole. you don't necessarily need to use the metal clip that is comes with. the clips are somewhat pointless because they don't really help. other than that, Minsk99 gave a pretty good description about installing them. good luck!

Please dont be lazy and not install the clips,Why buy something and put it on your ride half assed,the clipsmake it complete.

i :love: e'sams visors...post up pics after they are installed. and how much did you pay for them and how long did it take to get them?

I am about to install the e'sam window visor. Has anybody notice before install that the window visor are not long enough as shown as in the pics.

What I mean the visor leaves a gap between the tip and the side mirror black housing. In the manual the window visor goes all the way down to the side view mirrow.

can anybody show there pics of there e'sam window visor install

I do have instuctions, but they are in japanese

Please dont be lazy and not install the clips,Why buy something and put it on your ride half assed,the clipsmake it complete.
Lazy has nothing to do with it. The more time I get to work on my car the better! They are not necessary and some have reported negative results from putting them on (scratches in paint). This was told to me by bbist who I bought them from and who has installed them the same way on his ride. The time difference of installing w/ clips and without is probably on the order of five minutes or less. I was giving a suggestion based on experience people have had w/ this install.

I have them on my scion,and the complete install WITH clips took 10 min.Its like buying rims and not installing the center caps,Please! :loser:

Thanks Scion4life.

Do you have pics that I can get to give me a good idea.

will take some tomorrow,havnt taken since installed,

thanks alot

where'd you get the e'sam visors and how much? i'd like to change up to those

~tesh

pm me if you get a chance neone

Got them at carson Toyota. for about 235 plus shipping. Talk to Gordon.

This is the only pic I can find tonite,will take some tomorrow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Scion4life/003.jpg

I have them on my scion,and the complete install WITH clips took 10 min.Its like buying rims and not installing the center caps,Please! :loser:
That's absurd. There is absolutely NO aesthetic difference AT ALL! If your clips make you feel good... well then great for you, but to say that its like "not installing center caps" on wheels is completely ridiculous. They serve little if any purpose and the possible downsides of installing them probably outweigh the reasons for putting them on. MANY SL members who expend loads of time and effort on their rides have opted not to put them on for this reason. I know that they came in funky, little Japanese packaging and all, but that's not reason enough to put them on if they might do more harm then good. Just out of curiosity what is it that you think is so important about these clips aside from some obsessive compulsive need to put them on?:loser: :loser:

It is the difference between the $50 in channel piece of crap ones,and having true,I just paid $300,quality.Cutting corners is a way of life,how are you living?Are you getting out of it what your putting in?SOOOOOOOO you would pay $2000 for a flat screen VS $200 for a wal mart special,and be happy if it had no remote,you can still get your lazy ___ up and push the buttons,for god sake,use and enjoy what you paid for.

It is the difference between the $50 in channel piece of crap ones,and having true,I just paid $300,quality.Cutting corners is a way of life,how are you living?Are you getting out of it what your putting in?SOOOOOOOO you would pay $2000 for a flat screen VS $200 for a wal mart special,and be happy if it had no remote,you can still get your lazy ___ up and push the buttons,for god sake,use and enjoy what you paid for.
That is silliness. If the reason you paid the extra $275 was in any way related to those little clips that you can not see and serve no purpose then... well... I just don't know what to say to that. I always thought that what made the E'sam cool was the water tight seal, the fact that they were designed to circulate the air in through the front and out through the rear and the fact that they look slick. There is nothing wrong with using your brain and making a smart installation decision despite what the directions say to do. These clips serve about as much purpose as the logo stickers that come with aftermarket parts. Additionally, if you believe that "cutting corners is a way of life" perhaps you ought to start with typing complete sentences and using punctuation that somewhat resembles the type of "lifestyle" you have been alluding to.

You are correct,I do have a problem with my typing,not my window clips. This is silly as you said,and will stop after this post. You can have the last comment and say whatever you think is witty and makes you feel good. The point still remains that 8 little clips make the difference between E's and the mofo that gets his from Pep Boys!So it has been fun, Real, but not real fun. :loser: :ttth: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:

Installation could be a bit of a pain, but it's all worth it in the end. I used painter's tape to mark a horizontal line from front to rear. This made it much easier!

Peace,
m@

I just picked up a set from Carson Toyota. Haven't really chcked them out yet though.

Let me know if you notice that the way the pics look in the manual, is not the same in real life.

For some reason and I might be doing it wrong, the front visor doesn't go all the way around like it is show in the manual and also online. For some reason it looks to short.

if anyone on here hasn't used their clips,I will buy them,drop me a PM.

This is how they look on. I like em. i even used the clips. they are bendable so they werent hard to put on at all. took like 20 min.

http://www.signalschematix.com/theworks/jline6SL.jpg

Thanks alot

Thanks, that helps me alot. Did you have to bend the front visor to get it closer to the mirror.

I just installed them today. I took awhile to figure out exactly where the clips went but after that, it was easy sailing.

I didn't really have to bend the clips that much if at all to get them lined up with the hose in the visor.

The visor lines up with the mirror perfectly as shown in the instructions.

I just got the JDM visors and I didnt get those clips, so if any of you guys don't want them, are you willing to part with them? PM/email me if you are.

maybe u shoulda gotten the jdm oem ones. instead of aftermarket.
it took me 15 mins to install my visors.. i did it in a parkinglot at night. it was like cake. everything was nicely laid out, instructions were clear(in japanese).

pictures for step>by>step...

It adds to it. I"m getting wade slim-in channel wind visors. That go into the window channel up inside the door rather then attaching it on the outside of the door. I'll post pics once I get'em.

E-SAM is the man! These visors are one high quality product. I had the slin in-channel ones and they did not block the sun and did not create any airflow. Why would anyone design a visor to go into a window channel? I guess if a car has no window frame. Trust me, a leap of faith, get the E-SAM's and you will be happy once the money is spent.

yeahh, i agree.. glad to hear that you like them..

Where can I buy these ... I want a set!

carson toyota carries both the e'sam and the "oem toyota" visors

I bought the toyota ones and they suck ... I hate thoes track things ... I bought them the day they came out and the same day broke them in half and threw then away!

Bump.

Website, sponsor I can find these from?
Thanks.

Here are some photos of ESAM's Visors. Also will be posted in a window rattling thread because they hold the window in place with the rubber flange/squigge/thingy.
http://img113.echo.cx/img113/2660/20050602visor00018jy.th.jpg (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=20050602visor00018jy.jpg)
http://img113.echo.cx/img113/7946/20050602visor00024rn.th.jpg (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=20050602visor00024rn.jpg)
http://img113.echo.cx/img113/7447/20050602visor00030ap.th.jpg (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=20050602visor00030ap.jpg)
http://img113.echo.cx/img113/4654/20050602visor00041ri.th.jpg (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=20050602visor00041ri.jpg)
http://img113.echo.cx/img113/3967/20050602visor00051yp.th.jpg (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=20050602visor00051yp.jpg)
If the space shuttle had window visors, they would be ESAM's!

This is how they look on. I like em. i even used the clips. they are bendable so they werent hard to put on at all. took like 20 min.

http://www.signalschematix.com/theworks/jline6SL.jpg

damn! that's one sick ride.

i hate you

looks like a pretty clean install , now how do you like em'??

What is the difference between the ESAM and the JDM OEM visors -- besides the $40 price difference?

What is the difference between the ESAM and the JDM OEM visors -- besides the $40 price difference?
http://www.hammertam.com/camber2/wing2.jpg
http://www.signalschematix.com/theworks/jline6SL.jpg

see the difference?

Not quite . . . just a slight difference in shape maybe? The ESAM's are maybe slightly darker too? I've also heard that the ESAM's curve back towards the glass on the bottom edge, whereas the JDM OEM do not. Did I get it all? Which fit better? Work better? It seems they look equally as good in my book.

Now what makes these wind visors so great? I am thinking about getting some but I don't want to use tape to attach them. I hope someone has some in-channel visors that they can recommend. In my opinion the taped on visors are not as clean looking as their in-channel counterparts. Isn't the tape (and the little gap between the visor and the body that the thickness of the tape creates) a huge collector of dust and debris. I have seen some where the tape has collected dust, car wax build up, etc., so that it looked really bad. Here is a link to a company I found online and the install video they have on the site seems pretty good.
http://www.deflectors4less.com/scinwefrwe.html
Also what is everyone's opinion on clear wind visors?

see the difference?

Actually I only see one difference. The upper picture's visors actually go all the way down to the mirror area and look like they are better made for the xB. Which visors are in the top picture?

Not quite . . . just a slight difference in shape maybe? The ESAM's are maybe slightly darker too? I've also heard that the ESAM's curve back towards the glass on the bottom edge, whereas the JDM OEM do not. Did I get it all? Which fit better? Work better? It seems they look equally as good in my book.
IMO, both of them are good. I've seen both of them in person, and you need to see it too! If I have to pick between the two, I'll take the E-Sam.
"I've also heard that the ESAM's curve back towards the glass on the bottom edge,"
it does leave a hole on the front and rear window for nice inside air flow, I think Squirrel and or Bbist can further explain this.

Yeah, the E'Sams create an airflow where the air comes in thrru the front windows and exit thru the rears. I was in bBist's xB, and he cracked open allfour windows, turned on the heater and the interior was warmed up in no time. Also, Steve smokes, and when he cracked just the driver's side windows open, I couldn't smell any of the smoke on the passenger side.

(What's up Sid!?!)

Rich has that awesome BCP xB on those J-lines, man I'm jealous!

:) nothing much, I just finished washing my xB. yeah, I was at the Big Glendora meet last year and saw Bbist xB with the E-sam. I really like it so much, but still can't afford it :) , I did remember you posting something about Bbist E-sam(firsthand experience) thats why I mention you can explain it further.
btw, Bbist.com still sells this?

:) nothing much, I just finished washing my xB. yeah, I was at the Big Glendora meet last year and saw Bbist xB with the E-sam. I really like it so much, but still can afford it :) , I did remember you posting something about Bbist E-sam(firsthand experience) thats why I mention you can explain it further.
btw, Bbist.com still sells this?

I'm not sure what Steve has in stock. Do you want me to check?

if i had the cash i would get any of those two.....
i have those skinny ones and well ....... you know.

I'm not sure what Steve has in stock. Do you want me to check?
I don't have any money right now. Once in a while a topic like this rise up, people ask where to get it. Steve and Bbist.com come to my mind right away.

Yup.

Hi Guys,

We currently have these in stock. I personally have them on my car and love them. Great fit and finish.

and whats the price for these bad boys....??

and whats the price for these bad boys....??

$200-$250

and whats the price for these bad boys....??

$200-$250

worth every penny though.....atleast thats what I think.... :lalala:

yeahh, definitely worth the cheese

can i put on E'SAMs if i have CF B-pillars??

w00t, i'd definitely get these, rains so much here and i love to have the windows down (these do work in the rain right? i hope thats what these visors are for)

Crap! Why didn't i look this site up before i installed the visors! The rear visor ended up getting scratched because of the stupid clips. I couldn't really understand the part where you put the clips first, then, peel out the tape. I used the cleaner too. Hope my paint doesn't get screwed up.

This is how they look on. I like em. i even used the clips. they are bendable so they werent hard to put on at all. took like 20 min.

http://www.signalschematix.com/theworks/jline6SL.jpg

where can i get these visors?

Look here for both JDM window vent visors:
http://newscionparts.com/product/?id=1772
E-SAM's=$235 Toyota=$270
See my photos above in this thread.

Damn!!! $235 for just the visors?

those wheels are sick Signal

xB Hawk thanks for the link to Carson Toyota's site.

By the way... what rims do you have on your box?

Links on me.... They will get it for you.....

Sorry, I run with hubcaps and/or trim rings. I even 'streaked' to work with nothing on my wheels.
Vote in my poll:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=96324&highlight=

MY E-SAM's are tough and sleek. One year and no problems, just clean fresh air flow.

I read on another fourm that the e-sams turn purple. I think I'll buy the toyota visors.

I just took off my Wade in-channel's. Windows clunk when putting them up, tape came loose in a couple places and the visors sagged so you could see the tape. Now when I drive with the windows down it sounds like bass drums banging in the back. Will the E'Sams get rid of this wind noise? I thought the Wade's did a pretty good job and want t omake sure these will too before pputtign out another couple hundred $$.

BTW - Anybody want a set of wades, shipped for $25 let me know!

just got mines in today.. going to install them prob 2morrow

so is it easy to installed these or?

clean area, take off tape, stick on.

any other places other then Carson Toyota to get the Esam Visors?

clean area, take off tape, stick on.
dont these have to be installed with some type of clips?

Yes, there is a clip that will hold the visor in the center of the doorframe. Some people want the visors as high on the door frame as possible. This gives you less of a visor and the clips can not be used. Other people want the visor as low on the door frame as possible, clips can not be used for the lowest install.
This is O.K. because the 3M tape will hold fast for a lifetime.

Hold up the visor on the door frame. Use masking tape to try out the visor in the lowest and highest positions on door frame.
Check for visability. Chech head clearance when sticking your head out the window, if you do that. Raise and lower the window and decide where on the door frame you want to install them.

Fold back 1 inch of red tape cover. Install visor with clips, then pull out the red tape cover and push in for 1 minute. Done for life.

No, no other place sells them for less. There are now knock-offs for about $150 or so, but these lack the rubber seal that makes E-SAM's great for winter travel. Open window (2-3 inches) and the rubber seal blocks out most road noise. You know how silent it gets when you roll up the window? E-SAM's will give you about 60% of that silence with the window open 2-3 inches.
Without even looking, I can tell when my window goes up to the seal by the great reduction of road noise.

NO DIS-COLORATION issues. Even in purple rain. Where ever that comes from.

now where to get them?.. how many places sells them?

Look up 9 posts. ^^^
Look here for both JDM window vent visors:
http://newscionparts.com/product/?id=1772
E-SAM's=$235 Toyota=$270
See my photos above in this thread.
Few other places sell these and the price is the same or more.

thanx...i saw that site...time to call my friend over at scion :P