I was working on a guys xB2 today, & he mentioned, only one company makes a FULL exhaust for the 2nd gens.

I'm an exhaust fabricator, & i work for www.mandrelbend.com

I would like to produce kits for the xB2 using stainless steel components.

The kits...depending on whats fully involved would probably sell in the 600-800 range & will fit perfect.

I'm the XB2 guy whose car Greg worked on today. I just want to vouch for Greg's work. I was impressed by the work he did on my exhaust today and will be going back to Greg for all my future exhaust needs.

Greg, if I might make a suggestion, if at all possible you should consider offering individual replacement pipes that bolt up to the factory exhaust connections as well as a complete cat-back. There are numerous axle-backs available and already installed. Some people might want or need to keep the "scuba tank" for their state's emission compliance. JMO, FWIW.

Most people would be interested most in a "mid-section/scuba tank" replacement because that's the only part of the exhaust that seems to be left alone. Most likely because it's the part with the catalytic converter. If you were to make it though, you would need to put in the biggest muffler you have. Most likely of oval shape. Definitely has to be a good quality replacement, and not a crappy glasspack.

I have the Tsudo Dual cat back Exhaust and love it. But the one thing no company has done is a scuba tank replacement. The only exhaust to come complete is the Ebay system's.... I would love to have and see a direct replacement for the scuba , more power and some more sound would be great.

I'm the XB2 guy whose car Greg worked on today. I just want to vouch for Greg's work. I was impressed by the work he did on my exhaust today and will be going back to Greg for all my future exhaust needs.

Greg, if I might make a suggestion, if at all possible you should consider offering individual replacement pipes that bolt up to the factory exhaust connections as well as a complete cat-back. There are numerous axle-backs available and already installed. Some people might want or need to keep the "scuba tank" for their state's emission compliance. JMO, FWIW.

Yeah, exactly. Ive already got the nice Borla axle back and do not want to get rid of that.

Holy f*ck 600-800$ is a lot

Yeah, exactly. Ive already got the nice Borla axle back and do not want to get rid of that.

I think there are many here in the same boat. BTW, is your Borla a scuba-back or axle-back? FYI, the oem pipe from the scuba to the axle-back is only 1.80" ID. :eek:


Holy f*ck 600-800$ is a lot

Not really when you consider what you're getting. My understanding is that this would be a true full exhaust from the header or maybe s-pipe back to the tip (scuba-delete, mid-pipe, axle-back). I paid $350 just for the TRD axle-back and W-R charges $200 just for a 2.5" S-pipe.

The Borla is an Axle back system. The Tsudo and Strup are the Scuba back systems and the CRX and ebay exhaust are complete.

I would be most interested in a good scuba tank replacement. I want slight more sound but nothing that is gunna change it to drastic. Good resonator would be good. Anyone know if the scuba tank is removed will the check engine light come on?

Thx Drew.

I would be most interested in a good scuba tank replacement. I want slight more sound but nothing that is gunna change it to drastic. Good resonator would be good. Anyone know if the scuba tank is removed will the check engine light come on?

CEL: Header = yes, scuba delete = no

The CEL gets set for poor catalyst efficiency because the 2nd O2 sensor (before the scuba) reads richer with the primary cat removed.

Don't forget that you need to replace the 1.8" mid-pipe between the scuba tank and the axle-back to gain anything from a scuba delete.

ok, so theres a ton of intrest in a mid section...that will drop prices significally (i was quoting from the manifold-back originally.

ScionFred had me install a 7" round muffler in the middle...& i got it sitting up in there really good

so manifold to rear section exhaust...with huge muffler/resonator...probably a 6" diameter one just to have a little more clearence

maybe 400 range? its hard to say until i know what its all going to require

If i was looking for anything it would be a good stainless steel 2.5" s-pipe and mid pipe

Have you tried any oval mufflers for the mid section? Oval mufflers can provide some clearance (regarding vertical clearance) and might still fit in the "side to side" type clearance. This might be a better solution.

Also, is this going to be in 2.5 or 3 inch size? ScionFred is strictly turbo, so what works for him might not end up working for the majority of owners, since most are N/A.

My muffler shop installed an oval muffler. I will take pics this weekend when I change my gear oil.

i would recomend either 2.25" or 2.5" for the n/a guys

no need for an oval muffler, that 7" tucked up nicely & was not the lowest part of the car

i would recomend either 2.25" or 2.5" for the n/a guys

no need for an oval muffler, that 7" tucked up nicely & was not the lowest part of the car

Oh, then you should go for that. I said oval because oval would do good ground clearance and good muffling properties since there's more volume.

IF I do exhaust on my xB2, I want the whole kit and kaboodle. Whole shabang. If I have to pay a bit for it, I will.

Just like tattoos... Good work ain't cheap, cheap work ain't good.

IF I do exhaust on my xB2, I want the whole kit and kaboodle. Whole shabang. If I have to pay a bit for it, I will.

Just like tattoos... Good work ain't cheap, cheap work ain't good.


Well said!! :clap:

FYI, the oem "scuba tank" is round, 6.5" dia by 26" long including the tapered ends. 2" in and 1.8" out. The round straight-thru muffler I had installed is 7" dia by 18" long, 3" in/out. Having had a good look at things while the car was on the lift, I agree with MalibuGuy that a 6" round muffler would fit great.

BTW guys, don't forget that you really need to replace the tiny 1.8" ID Crush-bent mid-pipe between the scuba and axle-back. Guys with Tsudo or Strup only need the scuba replacement but everyone else will need at least that and the mid-pipe. FWIW, I've been measuring my oem pieces and the s-pipe is 2.25" ID at the header and reduces to 2" ID into the scuba.

double check that front pipe...it may be double wall (most toyotas are with the front pipes)

like my xB1 has like a 2 or 2.25" OD pipe going into the converter...but look inside...its around 1.75" then after the resonator...its 1.65"

of course its all sexy 2" now ;)

I double-checked and the front s-pipe is double-walled but still 2.25" ID in and 2" ID out. The scuba tank is 2.25" ID in and 1.8" ID out, the mid-pipe is 1.8" ID in/out and the axle-back is 2" ID in tapering immediately to 1.8" ID. The TRD axle-back is 2.5" ID.

wow...alot of ups & downs going on there

Yeah, I understand the progression from larger to smaller diameter to keep exhaust gas velocity up but the 1.8" to 2.0" to 1.8" transition at the axle-back confuses me. Even more when you add the 2.5" TRD axle-back to that 1.8" mid-pipe. I suppose that small dia exhaust piping acts similarly to a baffled muffler in terms of noise reduction and the TRD AB reduces back-pressure a little and adds a bit more sound.

Anyway, I hope there's enough interest to get this going. If you need a test mule, let me know. My exhaust is still a little loud for my taste and after you adjusted the front clearances, now it's hitting somewhere in back. Probably on the rear axle beam where CXR's fitment was also off.

bring it in one day, i'll take a look at it...then we'll do the quad tips ;)

bring it in one day, i'll take a look at it...then we'll do the quad tips ;)

Yeah, I'll be bringing it to you soon. I really should have stuck to my original plan for a custom 2.5" but just had to try the CXR 3" because I found what seemed to be a great deal on a used system. If it wasn't too big, too loud and fit so poorly, it would have been a great deal.

Just so you know, I'm definitely interested in buying a scubatank replacement section, so please try to do it if you can. Hopefully with the largest oval muffler you can find and with 2.5 inch diameter in/out :)

Hopefully with the largest oval muffler you can find and with 2.5 inch diameter in/out :)
Something like this, maybe?

http://www.aeroexhaust.com/index.php/mufflers/resonated-muffler/2525xl-resonated-car-and-truck-muffler.html

Thats not bad.

1) Wonder how loud the car would be?

2) Would a normal shop replace the scuba since its a car?

Im thinking about replacing the scuba with a 22" cherry bomb...........Direct replacement of corse.

Ouch. Holy loud batman!

Ouch. Holy loud batman!



Yea i'm torn on the idea, I have the tsudo exhaust and i just love it, but just want a little more noise........ Cherry bomb could workout perfect or make it too loud..

Something like this, maybe?

http://www.aeroexhaust.com/index.php/mufflers/resonated-muffler/2525xl-resonated-car-and-truck-muffler.html

Aero is expensive, and not so good at muffling (compared to other standard means anyway). I will always stand by saying that the best muffler is one that uses stainless steel packing (either fully, or partially with high temp fiberglass/ceramic packing) and has large volume, which is usually an oval. AFAIK, that aero exhaust is round anyways.

This part sounds like quality to me, and it seems to meet your standards as well, although I could be wrong:
"The 2525XL is completely stainless steel inside and out. A built in Resonator before our patented Air Foil is packed with high temperature ceramic packing. The hand-polished stainless steel 2525XL will give you the look and feel that you want and the performance you deserve. The Aero Exhaust Lifetime Warranty will guarantee that your investment is still performing as long as you own your vehicle."

And yes it's round (6" diameter), but at 26" long it would seem to have plenty of volume. Maybe combined with a quality axle-back it would give the desired tone. At $173 (best price I've found) it doesn't seem like a ridiculous price to replace the factory scuba tank. I'm sure a full custom exhaust could be had for cheaper than this, a new mid-pipe and axle-back, but I thought this might make an excellent starting point for a more mass produced scuba replacement piece. Just trying to think outside the box. :P

Will a muffler shop replace the scuba without resistance?

This part sounds like quality to me, and it seems to meet your standards as well, although I could be wrong:
"The 2525XL is completely stainless steel inside and out. A built in Resonator before our patented Air Foil is packed with high temperature ceramic packing. The hand-polished stainless steel 2525XL will give you the look and feel that you want and the performance you deserve. The Aero Exhaust Lifetime Warranty will guarantee that your investment is still performing as long as you own your vehicle."

And yes it's round (6" diameter), but at 26" long it would seem to have plenty of volume. Maybe combined with a quality axle-back it would give the desired tone. At $173 (best price I've found) it doesn't seem like a ridiculous price to replace the factory scuba tank. I'm sure a full custom exhaust could be had for cheaper than this, a new mid-pipe and axle-back, but I thought this might make an excellent starting point for a more mass produced scuba replacement piece. Just trying to think outside the box. :P

It's not a bad choice, but on the cars I've seen with it (various cars, not scions though) it wasn't really too great with actually making things quieter compared to typical stuff like borla/magnaflow ovals, and either option is cheaper (easily under 170 bucks even for a big oval one). The advantage to the aero muffler is the fact that it is lighter than most options because it doesn't really use packing as it's way of muffling. It mimics the design concept of gun suppressors (or "silencers")

IF I do exhaust on my xB2, I want the whole kit and kaboodle. Whole shabang. If I have to pay a bit for it, I will.

Just like tattoos... Good work ain't cheap, cheap work ain't good.


lol.....you seem to like this kit and kaboodle phrase.

I'm on board for something like a high flow cat, but not make it really loud. I've got the Tanabe on now, and since it's broken in a little it is a little louder, but it could use a slight increase.

How's the progress on this?

i need a car to use for mock up...needs to be entirely stock

i need a car to use for mock up...needs to be entirely stock

Can you use my stock exhaust pieces?

i would want a fully stock car. Any exhaust modifications could possibly cause things to not fit other peoples cars

i love my 3 inch exhaust from my turbo back with a resonator where the scuba was and a magnaflow muffler on the rear with just a turn down here is a pic
not visible so not flashy
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/fastbug2276/cleancar/cleancarandshow001.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/fastbug2276/cleancar/cleancarandshow014.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/fastbug2276/cleancar/cleancarandshow015.jpg
downpipe
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/fastbug2276/turbohawtness/100_0413.jpg

Cory,

Do you think replacing the scuba with a resonator is a worthwhile mod for some HP in a NA xB? I like the sound of the Borla axle back, and dont want to get too loud, but if putting in a resonator will free up some ponies Ill do it. After the chip goes in, I was looking at replacing the scuba, then the header down the road.

Cheers :)! I presume you're aware the scuba includes the main cat, a high flow one according to what ScionFred mentioned earlier. If you replace the scuba with a resonator, your emissions are going to leap upwards -- don't know if that's an issue in your state, maybe not. Going to a header will eliminate the pre-cat, at which point combined, you would be catless.

Yeah, thinking about the two cats, it may be best to just replace the headers and leave the scuba alone.

Yeah, thinking about the two cats, it may be best to just replace the headers and leave the scuba alone.

IMO the best thing you can do is replace the tiny 1.8" mid-pipe from the scuba to your Borla with 2.25 or 2.5" pipe. Next would be the scuba. You could fit a hi-flow cat and a short resonator in place of the scuba. Alternatively, a header with the scuba tank and 2.25-2.5" back would sound great and flow pretty good for a NA engine. The biggest problem with the scuba (IMO) is the short 1.8" ID exit.

i can't imagine the scuba being the main cat, since there is no O2 sensor after it, suggests its just a secondary cat

IMO the best thing you can do is replace the tiny 1.8" mid-pipe from the scuba to your Borla with 2.25 or 2.5" pipe. Next would be the scuba. You could fit a hi-flow cat and a short resonator in place of the scuba. Alternatively, a header with the scuba tank and 2.25-2.5" back would sound great and flow pretty good for a NA engine. The biggest problem with the scuba (IMO) is the short 1.8" ID exit.

I have a custom shop nearby, he could easily remove that 1.8" pipe and put in a larger one. Is weird they used that smaller size out of the scuba.

most shops do not mandrel bent tubing, so be careful, crush bent bigger tubing is no better then mandrel-bent smaller tubing, its actually worse, the countless compression & expansion of the exhaust gases thru each bend reduces the strength of the exhaust gas pulse

Yepp, one shop Ive used here does mandrel bend. Be nice if someone just sold a midpipe.

well, i'm trying to work on that ;)

Hehe. And Ill gladly buy a midpipe if ya come up with one!

Hehe. And Ill gladly buy a midpipe if ya come up with one!


X2

my opinion is fred is saying the absolute truth
i sold him the used cxr pipe and i, like him, its just too loud and not the greatest fit
he also modified it with the 7" round muffler he got from me, still too loud
his measurements on the stock exhaust r right on
as for malibuguy the 7" will tuck but a 6" would be dead on ? is what muffler can u put in there that will keep the roar down because as U,I,&Fred all know when u take that scuba out its just too loud
myself i just dont think a straight thru muffler can do it,but i also found without the backpressure that the scuba provides right there i lost a lot of bottom end power on my n/a motor and i have the strup header,but it was great on the top end (i was running 119mph in 3rd (auto) and never hit the the rev limiter)
so that in mind id be interested in a header back but only if its not too loud and can still
produced some back pressure to the engine,or even just a scuba delete to the axel back

hope this helps people understand whats happening in our exhaust system

scionfred was in today getting some more changes

i found out that the inlet on the TRD axleback is 2" (or around 2") then it leads into 2.5" tubing

this means my midpipes will have to go down to 2" at the flange to avoid slamming against a wall going into w/e axle-back people have

so i'm waiting to get a stock car in to take apart, examine & make a decision on what tubing to run, I seriously think any more then 2.25" is only going to hurt low-end response...on n/a 2.4 motors

my opinion is fred is saying the absolute truth
i sold him the used cxr pipe and i, like him, its just too loud and not the greatest fit
he also modified it with the 7" round muffler he got from me, still too loud
his measurements on the stock exhaust r right on
as for malibuguy the 7" will tuck but a 6" would be dead on ? is what muffler can u put in there that will keep the roar down because as U,I,&Fred all know when u take that scuba out its just too loud
myself i just dont think a straight thru muffler can do it,but i also found without the backpressure that the scuba provides right there i lost a lot of bottom end power on my n/a motor and i have the strup header,but it was great on the top end (i was running 119mph in 3rd (auto) and never hit the the rev limiter)
so that in mind id be interested in a header back but only if its not too loud and can still
produced some back pressure to the engine,or even just a scuba delete to the axel back

hope this helps people understand whats happening in our exhaust system

That 7" resonator really works now! Apparently the CXR muffler really sucks because after replacing it with the TRD muffler, my exhaust sounds almost the same as it did with the scuba and tiny oem mid-pipe. It's a little louder and a lot deeper but without the drone, in-cabin body panel resonance or the crappy weezing noises made by the CXR tip silencer.

I'll post a sound clip soon but if my 3"/2.5" straight-thru exhaust is any indication, a good 6" resonator in place of the scuba would sound great with any decent axle-back. As before, Malibuguy did great work and I trust his judgement on exhaust sizing. 2.25" ID for the NA win!

i love my 3 inch exhaust from my turbo back with a resonator where the scuba was and a magnaflow muffler on the rear with just a turn down here is a pic
not visible so not flashy
downpipe


Nice stealth exhaust Cory. Your exhaust guy did a nice job of tucking 3" through there. The CXR mid-pipe hangs a lot lower in front of the rear axle. I couldn't help but notice that you have very little gap between the axle and your pipe. Does it hit often?

Prettiest downpipe I've ever seen.

a good 6" resonator in place of the scuba would sound great with any decent axle-back.
You mean something like post #27 on page 2 of this thread?!?

Surprise, surprise, maybe CIONIDE had a good thought... whatcha think FromTheOld? :ponder:

You mean something like post #27 on page 2 of this thread?!?

Surprise, surprise, maybe CIONIDE had a good thought... whatcha think FromTheOld? :ponder:

Yeah, that would work. But so would a $75 SS Magnaflow resonator.

malibuguy im here in va

my exhaust is all stock accept the header

and it bolts right up to the stock s-pipe

its 2.5" at the donut im pretty sure

im game for letting u use mine as a

test mule if ya need

Fred glad that muffler did the job i had truly thought it would bummer with all the trial and errors tho

You mean something like post #27 on page 2 of this thread?!?

Surprise, surprise, maybe CIONIDE had a good thought... whatcha think FromTheOld? :ponder:

I don't understand the reasoning for this post at all. I can't really tell if you're joking or if you were offended or something, but whatever, lol.

Whether you were joking or not, since his opinion is the most valuable to you:
Yeah, that would work. But so would a $75 SS Magnaflow resonator.

It would be cheaper and possibly achieve the same/better muffling abilities.

BTW, just because a certain muffler works to quiet his car down/remove rasp doesn't mean it will for the majority of the people. His car is turbocharged, and the turbo is essentially the best way to quiet a car down, and no, I am not joking. A turbo is a great "muffler"...

I don't understand the reasoning for this post at all. I can't really tell if you're joking or if you were offended or something, but whatever, lol.
Not offended at all, just busting your balls about the 6" diameter resonator vs. larger. I guess my feeble attempts at humor lose something when I start banging on the keyboard at 1am. Sorry for the confusion.

malibuguy im here in va

my exhaust is all stock accept the header

and it bolts right up to the stock s-pipe

its 2.5" at the donut im pretty sure

im game for letting u use mine as a

test mule if ya need

Fred glad that muffler did the job i had truly thought it would bummer with all the trial and errors tho

i'm waiting on word from someone else...if decides not to, then yes i would like to use yours...i'm a little worried about the header tho...

It would be cheaper and possibly achieve the same/better muffling abilities.

BTW, just because a certain muffler works to quiet his car down/remove rasp doesn't mean it will for the majority of the people. His car is turbocharged, and the turbo is essentially the best way to quiet a car down, and no, I am not joking. A turbo is a great "muffler"...

Good point. I'm probably making too many assumptions about how a certain setup might sound, based on my limited personal experience. For one thing I'm assuming that the scuba consists of a "hi-flow" cat and a quality 6.5" resonator but it's possible that there might be baffles in there too. A turbo does make a great "muffler".

Sorry haven't been paying attention to this thread. Any word on the scubatank replacement? Looking for a little more power and tad more sound

Sorry haven't been paying attention to this thread. Any word on the scubatank replacement? Looking for a little more power and tad more sound

working on getting a car here

Not offended at all, just busting your balls about the 6" diameter resonator vs. larger. I guess my feeble attempts at humor lose something when I start banging on the keyboard at 1am. Sorry for the confusion.

No problem. It's very hard to tell on the internet these days cause everyone is so angry, lol

Also, my S-Pipe order was cancelled so I'm in the market for an S-Pipe + Scuba Replacement section. Bring it on! :)

Also, my S-Pipe order was cancelled so I'm in the market for an S-Pipe + Scuba Replacement section. Bring it on! :)

Did you order a WR S-pipe? I did that about a month ago and soon afterwards learned that it was backordered for months so I cancelled.

Are you still considering that other project we discussed?

Did you order a WR S-pipe? I did that about a month ago and soon afterwards learned that it was backordered for months so I cancelled.

Are you still considering that other project we discussed?

Yes, I ordered the WR S-Pipe but I was refunded cause it was on backorder :(

And yes, i'm also considering the other one. I don't want a 3 inch exhaust though so I can have a mix of good ground clearance, flow, and a sound that isn't too loud :)

malibuguy

i still have the stock header and cat if we need it also

just let me know if the other falls thru

malibuguy

i still have the stock header and cat if we need it also

just let me know if the other falls thru

its looking like hes not going for it...give him one more day...

Yes, I ordered the WR S-Pipe but I was refunded cause it was on backorder :(

And yes, i'm also considering the other one. I don't want a 3 inch exhaust though so I can have a mix of good ground clearance, flow, and a sound that isn't too loud :)

Too bad about the W-R S-pipe. It looks like a nice piece and the size is perfect for NA or boost. With NA I would just taper down to 2.25" after the S-pipe much like Toyota did on the oem, just not as small. Good way to keep the velocity up.

Mustb3ds: I hope the other guy drops out. I think you'll like Greg's work. I'm luvin' my new exhaust. I was really surprised at how much the TRD muffler quieted things down vs the CXR muffler. Let me know when you're coming up, if this pans out. Maybe we can hook up for lunch.

Too bad about the W-R S-pipe. It looks like a nice piece and the size is perfect for NA or boost. With NA I would just taper down to 2.25" after the S-pipe much like Toyota did on the oem, just not as small. Good way to keep the velocity up.

Mustb3ds: I hope the other guy drops out. I think you'll like Greg's work. I'm luvin' my new exhaust. I was really surprised at how much the TRD muffler quieted things down vs the CXR muffler. Let me know when you're coming up, if this pans out. Maybe we can hook up for lunch.

cool

we'll see how things work out

lunch would be great

maybe we can finally get a decent exhaust for all of us that have been wanting one

watching and waiting:ponder:

working on getting a car here

Ok awesome. Can't wait to see what you do with the scuba :) Your gunna make a good bit of money on this forum I bet haha

cool

we'll see how things work out

lunch would be great

maybe we can finally get a decent exhaust for all of us that have been wanting one

watching and waiting:ponder:

Yeah, hopefully this works out, we can celebrate with some killer crab cakes at G&M.

Calling around tomorrow. Gonna try and find a local shop that mandrel bends, and take a stab at a custom midpipe. 2.25" or 2.5" for the custom??

Yeah, hopefully this works out, we can celebrate with some killer crab cakes at G&M.

i was there thursday for my moms birthday...the crab cakes weren't as good as they used to be...or it was an "off night" for the cooks/chefs

Calling around tomorrow. Gonna try and find a local shop that mandrel bends, and take a stab at a custom midpipe. 2.25" or 2.5" for the custom??

if your just a mild n/a 2.25"

Well, no one in my area mandrel bends. So, I guess I wait.

cool

we'll see how things work out

lunch would be great

maybe we can finally get a decent exhaust for all of us that have been wanting one

watching and waiting:ponder:


your on :shock:

i was there thursday for my moms birthday...the crab cakes weren't as good as they used to be...or it was an "off night" for the cooks/chefs

I hope it was just an "off night". I see the seafood place across the street from you closed. That's a shame, nice people and good shrimp salad.

Take good care of Mustb3ds, he's good people.

You guys quit eating and make the exhaust parts!


:rofl::icon_dj:

You guys quit eating and make the exhaust parts!


:rofl::icon_dj:

Patience grasshopper... besides, you were gonna totally screw up the Unichip dyno results if you added a mid-pipe in between dyno tests!

Haha. I was not gonna put in the midpipe until after this weeks dyno!

:icon_smile:

Haha. I was not gonna put in the midpipe until after this weeks dyno!

:icon_smile:

Good man! Don't be too disappointed if the results aren't what you hoped for. I'm pretty sure that the Unichip will help more as you add more IHE mods and will be invaluable when you add the turbo you're working towards. :biggrin:

Yeah, I know some are expecting leaps and bounds for the price, but I paid $600 for a CAI and Exhaust and that only yielded about 9 at the wheels, so 5+ would be fine me. To be honest, the car is fun to drive now, I think once I get the UDP, and maybe header, I may not worry with anything else and start working on the exterior some more.

well the ball is starting to roll now...i have a car to use...i just got to find the time...

well the ball is starting to roll now...i have a car to use...i just got to find the time...

sent you a pm with my phone # hit me up

ill be home in the mornings next week till 9:15 am then at work till 8:40 pm

i know, i got you in my phone...i just gotta figure out when is a good time to make this happen...i'm thinking the week after memorial day

BTW whats your real name??

My real name is: Wanna buy a mid pipe! Haha, sorry couldnt resist. Im pullin for you guys to make this happen!

its going to happen ;)

That's good, but have you decided on 2.25 or 2.5 inch? Or will you have both options? 2.5 is a good mix of performance and sound for both turbo and N/As, but if you offer two options it'll be fine too.

its going to happen ;)

:nails:

oooh not good 4 me ill be at (pinks all out) here in richmond on the 5th
tickets already purchased and the following weekend i gotta work
im off on the 10th and the 15th or the following 4 weekends
sure we can figure out something

Even 800$ is a steal for a stainless mandrill bent exhaust. I paid 1200$ for mine. the exhuast is a really important mod IMO because it really sets the tone when you drive up... if you sound like a swarm of bees people are gonna laugh and snicker but if you pull up and your exhaust sound on point people are gonna notice.

Yeah, especially if no one mandrel bends in your area.

oooh not good 4 me ill be at (pinks all out) here in richmond on the 5th
tickets already purchased and the following weekend i gotta work
im off on the 10th and the 15th or the following 4 weekends
sure we can figure out something

ok, yeah we will figure something out

How's this thing going? :)

Pretty much dying to buy an S-Pipe since Weapon-R is out of stock everywhere.

its the matter of timing things

be patient young grasshopper

cant wait for mid pipe =)

Bump for progress ? :)

maybe next week development will start

Sweet.

watching!!!

an unfortunate hiccup...the flange i need to make this happen...won't be in stock until mid JULY...we are trying to find other sources tho

Doh!

well the manifold on these things don't exactly have common dimensions

R&D, always fun! Kinda like beta testing!

I don't think many people would want a full exhaust... too loud for a car lilke the xb

I don't think many people would want a full exhaust... too loud for a car lilke the xb

It won't be too loud with the proper mufflers. I wonder why so many people don't understand this concept. They say "removing this and that" will make the xB2 too loud...and those are the same people who use glasspacks, crap/small can mufflers, or just run it straight through with no muffler.

Bump from a midpipe buyer!

Mid july coming soon....:)

Sweet!

I have not been following this thread, but anyone know if there will be scuba replacements?

just bumped back in to say i tried to get with malibuguy and he didnt have the parts needed

havent heard back since

not sure if its gonna happen

just bumped back in to say i tried to get with malibuguy and he didnt have the parts needed

havent heard back since

not sure if its gonna happen

He posted earlier that the flanges weren't coming in until mid july.....but I haven't seen any activity from him so who knows.

I would really like to see the quietest dual exhaust that is compatible with the 5 axis rear kit as well. I know they make the Borla, but I've read mixed reviews how quiet it is. Since some people have automatics, the last thing I want for my dual exhaust is droning or loud noise when I'm doing my 1 hour commute on a daily basis.

Again, if you can do a really nice looking, proper fitment, affordable dual exhaust, you would get my vote!

Ive got the single Borla, and it really is not loud. I had a 40 mile one way hwy commute in Va, and there was no droning.

Ive got the single Borla, and it really is not loud. I had a 40 mile one way hwy commute in Va, and there was no droning.

Does the single Borla make the same sound as the dual Borla? And when you say "not loud" can you compare what it sounds like versus the stock one?

Not heard the duals. The single has a low rumble at lower rpm's, when accelerating without much effort, say around 2000 rpm's slowly down the road. At higher rpm's, it has less of a drone to me, and just a bit a louder than stock. When accelerating hard, the intake seems to over rule the exhaust. On the hwy, about 70, its just a nice hum. Ive had glasspacks and crap on trucks, and its nothing like that, and not even close to the hondas with the big fart can mufflers.

I would really like to see the quietest dual exhaust that is compatible with the 5 axis rear kit as well. I know they make the Borla, but I've read mixed reviews how quiet it is. Since some people have automatics, the last thing I want for my dual exhaust is droning or loud noise when I'm doing my 1 hour commute on a daily basis.

Again, if you can do a really nice looking, proper fitment, affordable dual exhaust, you would get my vote!
Sound is subjective. Just get it and stop being a weenis. :P

You've been on VSC a bit...

I know old thread, been trying to find any info on scuba replacements? Anything happen yet?

nothing happened, this kinda fell thru when our supplier failed to get me proper flanges

How about just using traditional flanges that most people can find?

How about just using traditional flanges that most people can find?
I think he meant a particular flange that will mate to the stock header/cat.
The CX Racing exhaust has been out for a while.

Why not just get them water jetted yourself instead of dealing with a supplier?
Hell, even a CNC plasma cutter would suffice. Just needs more clean up.

nothing happened, this kinda fell thru when our supplier failed to get me proper flanges

What about offering the "scuba tank" replacement and mid-pipe as a combo? That would eliminate the problematic spring-bolt connection between them. You could install a short section of flex pipe instead (if it's even necessary). IIRC the remaining connections would be standard 2-bolt flanges with gaskets.

IMO replacing the "scuba tank" section without replacing the little 1.8" ID mid-pipe would be somewhat pointless anyway.

look at magnaflows, cat back doesnt look like theres a scuba on there.