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MagnaFlow 02-03-2004, 09:53 PM Hey guys, just want to give you guys some more info on our new cat-back system for the xB. It will be offered in a full stainless finish, full 2.25" piping, resonator, and muffler. We had it on the dyno on a otherwise stock xB and had a gain of 5hp and 7 ft. lbs. of torque. I will have three different sound clips of a stand still rev, a launch and a fly by. Below I also included some images of how the kit looks once installed. Comments welcome !
*sorry for the size of the pics, but here you are... enjoy!
complete underbody shot
http://www.magnaflow.com/misc/scion01.jpg
view of the resonator and back
http://www.magnaflow.com/misc/scion02.jpg
view of canister
http://www.magnaflow.com/misc/scion03.jpg
view of the "slip joint" connecting the sections
http://www.magnaflow.com/misc/scion04.jpg
scionara 02-03-2004, 09:56 PM Wow :shock: That's a nice lookin' mandrel bent Cat-Back System.
The big question is..... How Much Doe$ it Co$t?
doctorcue 02-03-2004, 09:58 PM Wow :shock: That's a nice lookin' mandrel bent Cat-Back System.
The big question is..... How Much Doe$ it Co$t?
Yeah, I second that! Can't wait to here the sound clips!
HotBox 02-03-2004, 10:00 PM Wow :shock: That's a nice lookin' mandrel bent Cat-Back System.
The big question is..... How Much Doe$ it Co$t?
Yeah, I second that! Can't wait to here the sound clips!
i third that and where are the sound clips you said you had some i wanna hear i wanna hear
MagnaFlow 02-03-2004, 10:04 PM Since we don't sell direct, the pricing will really be up to the dealer, but average price should be right around $400. These parts are available now, and we will be out there on Saturday with some pieces on display. As for the sound clips, those will be up by days end.
XBBOY 02-03-2004, 10:18 PM NICE!!!....Thanks to my new Sponsor MAGNA FLOW. I recieved the system last week but have not yet gotten it installed, I will have it bu this Sat., so all of you that are going to the Scion corp Meet are more that welcome to check it out...Thanks again to Magna Flow.
DenZinz 02-03-2004, 10:56 PM It's an awesome system. I was going to post pics of it until I found this thread. I got mine Friday afternoon and installed it Friday night.
Here is a shot of the tip.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p338db276f4d6c121800ef3193c82cbba/f9b95641.jpg
allblackxb 02-03-2004, 11:02 PM See the thing is i went to magnaflow.com and the exhaust sounds like a rice rocket to me at least. But the plus is that it's a full cat back system. Just not that sound.
DenZinz 02-03-2004, 11:10 PM See the thing is i went to magnaflow.com and the exhaust sounds like a rice rocket to me at least. But the plus is that it's a full cat back system. Just not that sound.
Are you kidding? You must of mistaken it for a 2 chamber flowmaster. The exhaust has a continuous deep tone and attenutates on cruising RPMs (3000-4000), unlike some exhaust were idle is deep and as RPMS climb it gets raspy.
It has the same similarities as my Tanabe on my V6 Accord. Now that's saying a lot since 4 cyl. tend to be more raspy.
Hey " MagnaFlow " do you know Brent Bass? He is my sales rep for my area! :D He was telling me about the system, but said it wasn't gonna be ready till april. Nice to see it out early! He visted me back in November.
Since we don't sell direct, the pricing will really be up to the dealer
Might I remind everyone that Precision Muffler & Brake is a registared Magna Flow dealer!!!! :D So " Magna Flow " please PM me with a part number so I can look it up.
Yet another Plug for www.PrecisionMuffler.com The Magna Flow source!!!!!!
brarsandeep 02-03-2004, 11:33 PM Nice looking setup. Just listened to the sound clips on MagnaFlow.com and it seemed really loud! Not sure if it was the sound relfecting off the buildings, or what. I like the performance numbers, but it seemed a bit too loud for my taste. For those of you who have it installed on your xB's, does it really sound that loud, or are the sound clips not good quality???
allblackxb 02-03-2004, 11:34 PM It could also be my sound card on my computer but, from what i heard it sounded good at idle but up at 4k and up it sounded like a lawn mower. Oh well I have a magnaflow muffler on my other car and i love it so i can't diss on magnaflow, but the way it sounds doesn't appeal to me, from what i heard. Who knows in person it could sound sick! Computers are bad to tell what somethings supposed to sound like.
MagnaFlow 02-03-2004, 11:34 PM For those of you that have not gone to the site, here is a link to the soind clips... enjoy!
http://www.magnaflow.com/04sound/import.htm
*the reason that the system may sound a little off is due to the fact that we really don't have the greatest "open" space to do the clips and we are somewhat stuck between buildings, these are done to give you a general idea of how the system sounds.
Hey " MagnaFlow " do you know Brent Bass? He is my sales rep for my area! :D He was telling me about the system, but said it wasn't gonna be ready till april. Nice to see it out early! He visted me back in November.
Yes, I do, as a matter of fact he sits right by me. Anyways, we did receive the system in a little early and they're ready to move. I'm hoping to add some more images for you guys as soon as I get a chance.
DenZinz 02-03-2004, 11:41 PM you should click on the Ford Focus clips. You can play them both at the same time, it sounds cool...
BTW...Those are cool sound bites, it seems like it's echoing off the buildings.
tell brent thanks for the skyline pics, they look cool. Just tell him Gabriel from Milpitas , he saw my Magnaflow manifold back system and thought it looked great. I think it was because I used all magna flow products on it. :D Such as the magna flow muffler tip and carsound catalytic converter. Hope he goes out on saturday also, would good to see him again. :D
allblackxb 02-04-2004, 12:08 AM Just a quick question. How big's the tip?
DenZinz 02-04-2004, 12:09 AM rolled 4" tip with a bevel on the inside.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pd55f4492f4b78eecf7bccbd6413b7dff/f9b92a19.jpg
Munch 02-04-2004, 12:39 AM I have found my new exhaust system :D :D :D I'll be getting one of those. Just point me in the right direction to buy (money in hand) :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
HotBox 02-04-2004, 01:08 AM that system is awesome but i dont like the exhuast tip
scioninla 02-04-2004, 01:37 AM They called me on Wednesday and sent me one..got it the next day. Had it installed last Saturday and it sounds nice..deep and throaty sound.
I hate those loud "ricey" sounding exhaust but Magnaflow has a really nice sound to it....not really loud..I love it.
I am not the expert nor will I give out any specs etc..but I know that my xB feels faster..it's noticable...I have 19' wheels so every hp helps..
Thanks for the sponsorship ...actually thanks as well to V who got me this sponsorship.
If anyone wants to listen to it..I 'll have it at the El Toro meet this weekend.
Thanks again Magnaflow.
its_ikon 02-04-2004, 02:04 AM nice to see guys getting finished with it. who is the name behind magnaflow?
XBBOY 02-04-2004, 02:26 AM It's an awesome system. I was going to post pics of it until I found this thread. I got mine Friday afternoon and installed it Friday night.
Here is a shot of the tip.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p338db276f4d6c121800ef3193c82cbba/f9b95641.jpg
Damn Denny...you're the OG...man see you Sat. got mine on Friday too.
MagnaFlow 02-04-2004, 04:45 AM nice to see guys getting finished with it. who is the name behind magnaflow?
Hey guys, keep the comments coming, good or bad, we're here to listen and help you guys out. I will be out there on Saturday with a couple of systems for you guys to take a look at first hand. Anyways, for the person that asked, my name is Gene. Hope that I can help you guys out with whatever you need.
bBted 02-04-2004, 04:36 PM are they available on sale on saturday? 8)
i also agree with hotbox, exhaust tip doesnt look good..
actually i like the one on stylis' car....(also by manaflow)
bBted 02-04-2004, 04:36 PM oh yea...any dyno results?
HotBox 02-04-2004, 05:01 PM did my post get deleted or something cause i know i posted again on this topic but here it goes again
nice to see guys getting finished with it. who is the name behind magnaflow?
Hey guys, keep the comments coming, good or bad, we're here to listen and help you guys out. I will be out there on Saturday with a couple of systems for you guys to take a look at first hand. Anyways, for the person that asked, my name is Gene. Hope that I can help you guys out with whatever you need.
listen huh thats awesome *no sarcasism intended* i think thats good cause some companys (just as an example not sure which ones) but some are like they dont care what the people want they make it who they want it and if not then screw them its better to have a comapny listen to what we want and make us happy
well my comment is on the tip i really dont like the rolled look id rather have i dont know what its called but i guess ill call it unrolled to me it looks better that way cause in IMO the rolled tip looks like you went to autozone and brought one from there and slapped it on im not ragging on your exhuast system but im speaking in general
its_ikon 02-04-2004, 07:36 PM oh yea...any dyno results?
this is in the intial first post:
=We had it on the dyno on a otherwise stock xB and had a gain of 5hp and 7 ft. lbs. of torque.
squirrel 02-04-2004, 07:49 PM C'mon Nilo, get that exhaust on your ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dang Adrian got one too!?! It retails for $400!?! Man, looks like I may get another exhaust, this time a complete sytem.
I gotta hear them when I go down in a couple of days!
scionara 02-04-2004, 07:51 PM C'mon Nilo, get that exhaust on your ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dang Adrian got one too!?! It retails for $400!?! Man, looks like I may get another exhaust, this time a complete sytem.
I gotta hear them when I go down on a couple of days!
Yup, me too. I want to hear it in person live with living colors... I gots to be feelin' it.
bBted 02-04-2004, 07:53 PM oh yea...any dyno results?
this is in the intial first post:
=We had it on the dyno on a otherwise stock xB and had a gain of 5hp and 7 ft. lbs. of torque.
oops...any dyno charts?
Alright, I'll be the first to ask...
Any plans for the xA?
I have to rely on all you Cali guys for info and parts, because no one in Seattle knows what the hell i'm talking about when I ask if they have any Scion parts coming in.
I'm just waiting for anything other than an axle back to come out. And this one looks pretty nice.
MagnaFlow, I sent you a PM. :D
MagnaFlow 02-04-2004, 10:50 PM Alright guys, lets see if I can get all these questions answered in one shot, here goes:
are they available on sale on saturday? 8)
i also agree with hotbox, exhaust tip doesnt look good..
actually i like the one on stylis' car....(also by manaflow)
Yes, we will have five systems available on Saturday for oyu guys to purchase. I'm still trying to finish up some details, but they systems will most likely be $437.50. Unfortunately we will only be accepting cash, so no checks or credit cards.
did my post get deleted or something cause i know i posted again on this topic but here it goes again
nice to see guys getting finished with it. who is the name behind magnaflow?
Hey guys, keep the comments coming, good or bad, we're here to listen and help you guys out. I will be out there on Saturday with a couple of systems for you guys to take a look at first hand. Anyways, for the person that asked, my name is Gene. Hope that I can help you guys out with whatever you need.
listen huh thats awesome *no sarcasism intended* i think thats good cause some companys (just as an example not sure which ones) but some are like they dont care what the people want they make it who they want it and if not then screw them its better to have a comapny listen to what we want and make us happy
well my comment is on the tip i really dont like the rolled look id rather have i dont know what its called but i guess ill call it unrolled to me it looks better that way cause in IMO the rolled tip looks like you went to autozone and brought one from there and slapped it on im not ragging on your exhuast system but im speaking in general
I completely understand where you're coming from on this one. The tip we selected for our system is a double wall tip. Although the look isn't exactly what some of you wanted, we aimed for quality first. The advantage of a double wall tip versus single is the heat won't discolor the outer side of the dual. On a single, any tip will quickly become a golden color once used. I have brought up maybe using a different more "up-to-date" style tip and I will let you guys know about that.
oh yea...any dyno results?
this is in the intial first post:
=We had it on the dyno on a otherwise stock xB and had a gain of 5hp and 7 ft. lbs. of torque.
oops...any dyno charts?
I'm working on getting a copy of the dyno chart, it will most likely be up by end of the week.
Alright, I'll be the first to ask...
Any plans for the xA?
I have to rely on all you Cali guys for info and parts, because no one in Seattle knows what the hell i'm talking about when I ask if they have any Scion parts coming in.
I'm just waiting for anything other than an axle back to come out. And this one looks pretty nice.
MagnaFlow, I sent you a PM. :D
Alright, I spoke with our R&D guys as soon as i saw this, and I contacted an xA owner. We're working on setting something up hopefully next week to get that car in here and test fit the system we've got for the xB. You'll obviously have to wait until we get the car in here before I can give you any additional information.
OK, I think I got most of the questions covered. One last thing, since we've been getting some questions about the tip we offer on the system, how about this idea. I want you guys to go to http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/tips.htm and see what tip you guys would like to see us use. If we have a good response I will do my best to see what action will be taken to fit your needs.
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Here is a quick comparison of our system versus "theirs":
5Zigen Axle back - $395 List
Blitz Axle back - $380 List
Borla Dual - not available yet and requires body modification
DC Sports Axle back - $615 List
JIC Axle back - $380 List
TRD Axle back - $319 List
Tanabe Axle back - $460 List
MagnaFlow Cat-back - Retail is $566, so it will be $437, which is 15% off jobber.
Most competitors’ systems are stainless, some are polished like MagnaFlow, but we’re the first available cat back system, and although one cut is required, the system fits perfectly, our system made 5 whp and 7 lb/ft of torque. We also are the only ones offering a lifetime warranty.
GruntStyle 02-04-2004, 11:06 PM Part No. 35127
Round - Angle Cut
i like this one
Scionic 02-04-2004, 11:22 PM Heard it earlier on Denny's ride and it sounds sweet......not too obnoxious and just the right growl.
BTW I was sitting in the back so I think I would have heard the loudest end of it.
Besk_one 02-04-2004, 11:29 PM hey now!
SPFR's cat back was the first on the market! well maybe not on the market, but at least the first one introduced and installed on an xB and xA ;)
and it was even dyno tested months ago at the magnaflow dyno center, and got a ton of attention from the corporate people there.
Looks like he's got some competition going now!
Hopefully Jon will be back from Missouri today and get one cranked out for saturday so people can see possibly a complete system on the SPFR demo xB! :)
DenZinz 02-05-2004, 03:33 AM i also agree with hotbox, exhaust tip doesnt look good..
also by manaflow)
I think the tip looks awesome.. It looks finished rather than an open 4" tip. And for a Cat Back system at that price, who could beat it? Did I mention it was Stainless? Check my car at EXPOSED and u can listen to it..
its_ikon 02-05-2004, 04:01 AM nice to see guys getting finished with it. who is the name behind magnaflow?
Anyways, for the person that asked, my name is Gene.
i heard you like cookies, you want to get a groupbuy on some girl scout cookies? :D
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/tips/gifs/35127.jpg
This is the tip I have available on my car. I also have them available for sale! PM me if you want me to bring them to the El Toro meet! It looks great and easy to clean.
squirrel 02-05-2004, 04:17 PM Yes, we will have five systems available on Saturday for oyu guys to purchase. I'm still trying to finish up some details, but they systems will most likely be $437.50. Unfortunately we will only be accepting cash, so no checks or credit cards.
Man, I'd be all over that exhaust. But I ain't taking no chance of carrying $500.00 cash w/ me. I guess I'll just have to order it and pay full pop!
Man, I'd be all over that exhaust. But I ain't taking no chance of carrying $500.00 cash w/ me. I guess I'll just have to order it and pay full pop!
don't worry squirrel, I am an authurized magna flow dealer and I think I can help you out! :D Thank goodness your in my area.
MagnaFlow 02-05-2004, 05:04 PM Yes, we will have five systems available on Saturday for oyu guys to purchase. I'm still trying to finish up some details, but they systems will most likely be $437.50. Unfortunately we will only be accepting cash, so no checks or credit cards.
Man, I'd be all over that exhaust. But I ain't taking no chance of carrying $500.00 cash w/ me. I guess I'll just have to order it and pay full pop!
We've lowered it to an even $400 cash for those interested on picking it up that day. If you don't carry that much cash on you, we've got something setup where you can place your order either Saturday or on Monday and have it shipped to you free of charge. So, $400 shipped is what we're looking at if you can't pick it up on Saturday.
Munch 02-05-2004, 05:08 PM We've lowered it to an even $400 cash for those interested on picking it up that day. If you don't carry that much cash on you, we've got something setup where you can place your order either Saturday or on Monday and have it shipped to you free of charge. So, $400 shipped is what we're looking at if you can't pick it up on Saturday.
What about us East Coast guys. I want one right now :D .
scionaraxb 02-05-2004, 05:14 PM We've lowered it to an even $400 cash for those interested on picking it up that day. If you don't carry that much cash on you, we've got something setup where you can place your order either Saturday or on Monday and have it shipped to you free of charge. So, $400 shipped is what we're looking at if you can't pick it up on Saturday.
What about us East Coast guys. I want one right now :D .
Fly out to El Toro and pick one up! :lol:
thats a dam good deal! I think you guys should get on that. Magna flow is a company that has a good rep, I should know!
scionaraxb 02-05-2004, 05:33 PM so do we need to weld it on near the cat? Or is it all bolt on?
Seems like a great deal!
MagnaFlow 02-05-2004, 06:12 PM We've lowered it to an even $400 cash for those interested on picking it up that day. If you don't carry that much cash on you, we've got something setup where you can place your order either Saturday or on Monday and have it shipped to you free of charge. So, $400 shipped is what we're looking at if you can't pick it up on Saturday.
What about us East Coast guys. I want one right now :D .
Fly out to El Toro and pick one up! :lol:
He answered your question for you. Just kidding, unfortunately the free freight will be for the California owners only. For the rest of the batch we're trying to get a way for you guys to get your systems ASAP. I will keep you posted and as soon as I get more info.
so do we need to weld it on near the cat? Or is it all bolt on?
Seems like a great deal!
For the installation, you will need to cut the OEM system off right after the "cat." We include a detailed installation guide that is included with every single kit. The instructions will walk you through every step from beginning to end. I took some pictures yesterday of the install and I will try and get them up here as soon as possible... stay tuned.
keeyu 02-05-2004, 07:56 PM next exhaust they need to make one for the xa
MagnaFlow 02-05-2004, 08:34 PM next exhaust they need to make one for the xa
We've got you covered. Here is a response to a previous question about the xA system.
Alright, I'll be the first to ask...
Any plans for the xA?
I have to rely on all you Cali guys for info and parts, because no one in Seattle knows what the hell i'm talking about when I ask if they have any Scion parts coming in.
I'm just waiting for anything other than an axle back to come out. And this one looks pretty nice.
MagnaFlow, I sent you a PM. :D
Alright, I spoke with our R&D guys as soon as i saw this, and I contacted an xA owner. We're working on setting something up hopefully next week to get that car in here and test fit the system we've got for the xB. You'll obviously have to wait until we get the car in here before I can give you any additional information.
its_ikon 02-06-2004, 02:33 AM what about cookies, can we get a group buy on girl scout cookies? i heard you like them :lol:
squirrel 02-06-2004, 04:19 AM Man, I'd be all over that exhaust. But I ain't taking no chance of carrying $500.00 cash w/ me. I guess I'll just have to order it and pay full pop!
don't worry squirrel, I am an authurized magna flow dealer and I think I can help you out! :D Thank goodness your in my area.
can you beat the $400 offer from the manufacturer?
YupYup 02-06-2004, 04:56 AM Will you be making a titanium version? I have one on my other car & I absolutely love how titanium sounds.
Man, I'd be all over that exhaust. But I ain't taking no chance of carrying $500.00 cash w/ me. I guess I'll just have to order it and pay full pop!
don't worry squirrel, I am an authurized magna flow dealer and I think I can help you out! :D Thank goodness your in my area.
can you beat the $400 offer from the manufacturer?
I might have to do a group buy later if there are enough people for it. Then we might be able to get it under 400.00 :D
MagnaFlow 02-06-2004, 04:21 PM Will you be making a titanium version? I have one on my other car & I absolutely love how titanium sounds.
As of right now, we are not planning on doing a Ti system for it. IF we see a large demand for it, which is a challenge since our systems will be in the $1000+ range, I'm sure we would try and get it out.
Munch 02-06-2004, 04:32 PM Fly out to El Toro and pick one up! :lol:
I don't wnat it that bad :D
DenZinz 02-07-2004, 04:43 AM Vroom.....
robin 02-08-2004, 03:21 PM Just a note to express my gratitude to Tanya and Gene and all the good folks at MagnaFlow.
Thanks to them, I am now running their Cat-back in my Xb.
It is a truly high quality product from a company with a well-earned, stellar reputation.
I am really feeling the performance and sound.
You'll recognize me on the road.
I'm the one who's so happy. I'm laughing. :lol:
brarsandeep 02-08-2004, 04:22 PM How does it sound inside the cabin at full throutle and at highway speeds?
its_ikon 02-08-2004, 11:29 PM was magnaflow at el toro? i didn't see the van there.
MagnaFlow 02-09-2004, 02:12 AM was magnaflow at el toro? i didn't see the van there.
Unfortunately we couldn't bring the van out, but I was there with my white xB. If you guys are interested in that $400 deal let me know by tomorrow so that we can have it set up for you guys.
MagnaFlow 02-11-2004, 06:59 PM Boys and girls, here's the article I've been telling you guys about. Chris Neprasch from oVerboost.com was at our facility here last Wednesday and we did an install and several dyno runs on their project xB. If you've picked up or plan to pick up our system, pay close attention to how the installation is done to get this thing on your vehicle without any problems. Take a look at their article and feel free to leave some comments on here for us... enjoy!
http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=1209#endAd
SoCalbBox 02-11-2004, 08:52 PM Can you show a pic of the b-pipe connection at the cat. The stock b-pipe and cat are one pipe. I assume you are adding a new cat, but where is the picture?
edit: You have to CUT!!! ah man. :?
sithscripter 02-11-2004, 10:08 PM I agree the Magnaflow looks like a very nice and well-designed exhaust. Still from looking at the dyno charts that seems like a big chunk of change for a 3 whp gain @ 6000 rpm, with a small but measurable effect on low-end torque (look between 2000 and 2500 rpm).
I wonder how it'll perform after a few hundred miles after the ECU has a chance to re-learn all of its settings.
bBted 02-11-2004, 10:12 PM I agree the Magnaflow looks like a very nice and well-designed exhaust. Still from looking at the dyno charts that seems like a big chunk of change for a 3 whp gain @ 6000 rpm, with a small but measurable effect on low-end torque (look between 2000 and 2500 rpm).
I wonder how it'll perform after a few hundred miles after the ECU has a chance to re-learn all of its settings.
i dont get it...(sorry im a dumb)...
are u saying the system lose low end torque?
DenZinz 02-11-2004, 10:22 PM Can you show a pic of the b-pipe connection at the cat. The stock b-pipe and cat are one pipe. I assume you are adding a new cat, but where is the picture?
edit: You have to CUT!!! ah man. :?
Yep....The b-pipe and the cat is all one piece..You have to cut it and clamp it. No biggy though.
SoCalbBox 02-11-2004, 10:54 PM Can you show a pic of the b-pipe connection at the cat. The stock b-pipe and cat are one pipe. I assume you are adding a new cat, but where is the picture?
edit: You have to CUT!!! ah man. :?
Yep....The b-pipe and the cat is all one piece..You have to cut it and clamp it. No biggy though.
No biggie on the cutting. I figure, you sell converters, why not just put one in the kit.
I just got an explanation on why. I guess you can't sell a system with the cat. You cannot replace emissions equipment, only if it fails.
Those pics just reminded me of volkswagons and the slip fit.
DenZinz 02-11-2004, 11:15 PM Can you show a pic of the b-pipe connection at the cat. The stock b-pipe and cat are one pipe. I assume you are adding a new cat, but where is the picture?
edit: You have to CUT!!! ah man. :?
Yep....The b-pipe and the cat is all one piece..You have to cut it and clamp it. No biggy though.
No biggie on the cutting. I figure, you sell converters, why not just put one in the kit.
I just got an explanation on why. I guess you can't sell a system with the cat. You cannot replace emissions equipment, only if it fails.
Those pics just reminded me of volkswagons and the slip fit.
If they sold the kit with a cat, it wouldnt be $500 for a stainless cat back kit. Then they would have to do a downpipe also. They might as well do a full head back exhaust including header...hehehe
Oooo...I think im on to something. :idea:
Hottexhaust 02-11-2004, 11:26 PM Hello everyone....we are looking for photographs of a Magnaflow equipped xB that could be displayed on our website....If anyone would like to submit a photo, please pm or e-mail me....
John
kwicslvr 02-11-2004, 11:30 PM I agree the Magnaflow looks like a very nice and well-designed exhaust. Still from looking at the dyno charts that seems like a big chunk of change for a 3 whp gain @ 6000 rpm, with a small but measurable effect on low-end torque (look between 2000 and 2500 rpm).
I wonder how it'll perform after a few hundred miles after the ECU has a chance to re-learn all of its settings.
i dont get it...(sorry im a dumb)...
are u saying the system lose low end torque?
Yes. Typically when you free up your exhuast you reduce the backpressure. It is backpressure on the engine that creates torque. If you open that up more and reduce the backpressure you will reduce your torque a little but make more HP. Granted you really don't lose torque it just flattens the torque curve out some and widens it from end to end. That is why you create more hp because there is more space under the torque curve than before even though torque does not peak as high.
the catback system is looking good. I am still waiting for my wharehouse to give me some prices , hopefully I will get an answer tomorrow.
westsiderider 02-12-2004, 06:48 PM Everyone fails to see the obvious. Everyone talks about how they want to put forced induction on the cars and supercharger this and turbo that. Well kiddies, if you're going to force feed the motor, the stock exhaust tubing with an aftermarket muffler just ain't going to cut it. The MAGNAFLOW adds a quarter-inch of piping through the whole system so it is going to be able to handle more total horsepower.
koreysbox 02-12-2004, 10:31 PM Just installed my Magna Flow that I received today. Had to weld the pipe connection around the gas tank instead of using the clamps due to limited clearance recommended by the guys who put it in. Doesn't not sound like RICE. It is quite a bit louder inside the car though, maybe a little too loud for my taste on acceleration but ok when cruising. Real nice set up though, and real clean. I agree with the tip, but really it depends on personal taste. I don't really like the rolled tip, but the quality is apparent as expected from a top company. I live in SD, so if anyone want's to check it out your welcome to contact me to take a look/drive.
Al-Truistic 02-12-2004, 10:44 PM Is this better in the long run for our engines :? ?
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I agree the Magnaflow looks like a very nice andYes. Typically when you free up your exhuast you reduce the backpressure. It is backpressure on the engine that creates torque. If you open that up more and reduce the backpressure you will reduce your torque a little but make more HP. Granted you really don't lose torque it just flattens the torque curve out some and widens it from end to end. That is why you create more hp because there is more space under the torque curve than before even though torque does not peak as high.
BigOrangeXb 02-15-2004, 06:13 AM I probably overlooked this, but:
Where can I buy this exhaust? I'm in VA, so a closer place might be easier on shipping, but if there are none it's ok. Thanks.
I probably overlooked this, but:
Where can I buy this exhaust? I'm in VA, so a closer place might be easier on shipping, but if there are none it's ok. Thanks.
If you go to the magnaflow website, you can type in your zip code and find a dealer in your area. If no one is available in your area, I can offer my sevices as a magnaflow dealer for ya! :D Hope this helps.
www.magnaflow.com
dub178 02-20-2004, 12:35 AM does this system stay under the 95dB limit?
Munch 02-20-2004, 12:42 AM If you go to the magnaflow website, you can type in your zip code and find a dealer in your area. If no one is available in your area, I can offer my sevices as a magnaflow dealer for ya! :D Hope this helps.
www.magnaflow.com
How much Stylis :?: I want 0ne right now and I'm in NY.
Hottexhaust 02-20-2004, 05:44 PM If you can't find it anywhere else.........go here
http://www.hottexhaust.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=15822
mgmlot93 03-01-2004, 11:07 PM Anyone else out there have a source for these? Stylis doesn't seem to be posting a price and I was hoping to find it cheaper than the 438.00 at Hottexhaust. Anyone??
ShadowMage 03-02-2004, 02:33 AM 275 from Precision Muffler. :) http://www.precisionmuffler.com/id22.htm
You're welcome! :D
bBted 03-02-2004, 02:47 AM 275 from Precision Muffler. :) http://www.precisionmuffler.com/id22.htm
You're welcome! :D
thats for axle-back...i think stylis still waiting for his warehouse
ShadowMage 03-02-2004, 02:53 AM 275 from Precision Muffler. :) http://www.precisionmuffler.com/id22.htm
You're welcome! :D
thats for axle-back...i think stylis still waiting for his warehouse
oops...I'm an idiot! :lol: Note to self...read the topic!
275 from Precision Muffler. :) http://www.precisionmuffler.com/id22.htm
You're welcome! :D
thats for axle-back...i think stylis still waiting for his warehouse
Sorry guys my warehouse is laggin on me but I will know for sure tomorrow. :D
scionxb04 03-02-2004, 05:53 AM unless this kit is around 250bucks....your getting ripped.....get the magna flow muffler and pay your local muffler shop to put some 2.5inch tubing from the cat back....no mickey mouse clamping either......welding has its place....
on my civic....magnaflow axel back with 2.5inch pipe from modesto muffler 89bucks
obx 2.5inch mid pipe 110bucks......for 199bucks even i did my full cat back on the civic with full 2.5 inch pipe....
but hey u wanna spend $400+ go right ahead...im not into wasting money
westsiderider 03-02-2004, 07:01 AM unless this kit is around 250bucks....your getting ripped.....get the magna flow muffler and pay your local muffler shop to put some 2.5inch tubing from the cat back....no mickey mouse clamping either......welding has its place....
on my civic....magnaflow axel back with 2.5inch pipe from modesto muffler 89bucks
obx 2.5inch mid pipe 110bucks......for 199bucks even i did my full cat back on the civic with full 2.5 inch pipe....
but hey u wanna spend $400+ go right ahead...im not into wasting money
Ahh, without people with this type of mindset, companies like APC and Tenzo R would have nobody to sell their fine product to. Especially considering local muffler shops will madrel bend the pipe and make a few passes on the dyno before and after the install to make sure there was a definite power gain. And then when they're done with that they will try other combinations to make sure power is maximized and fitment is proper. In my opinion it makes a lot less sense to pay $250 for a one off exhaust than it does to pay a bit more and get something that has spent weeks in a well renowned company's R&D department.
scionxb04 03-02-2004, 07:12 AM metal pipe is metal pipe.......any good shop can mandrel bend.....and any good import shop should be able to build u an exhaust system rather quickly that would do better then your cookie cutter magnaflow.....that system's pipe is run in the exact same place as the old pipe...hung on the same hangers...and with 2.25 pipe to boot...lol....i would bet money a good shop could make me a system for my scion with 2.5inch that would get way better gains then the magnaflow system
just for kicks....ill have it done....then dynoed at www.midnightperformance.com for ya....the civic now has a custom exhuast 2.5inch with thinner gauge pipe with the same magnaflow muffler done by www.karmotorsports.com (soon to be featured in superstreet) and it outperformed the almighty greddy evo on dyno....greddy research and development bull____ outdone by a professional shop....one cookie cutter exhuast from magnaflow can not and will not ever be a 1 is best for all application....as far as i knew all proffessional race exhaust systems were and always will be custom built.
unless this kit is around 250bucks....your getting ripped.....get the magna flow muffler and pay your local muffler shop to put some 2.5inch tubing from the cat back....no mickey mouse clamping either......welding has its place....
on my civic....magnaflow axel back with 2.5inch pipe from modesto muffler 89bucks
obx 2.5inch mid pipe 110bucks......for 199bucks even i did my full cat back on the civic with full 2.5 inch pipe....
but hey u wanna spend $400+ go right ahead...im not into wasting money
See, I am all for that.(since I am the guy that provides that service) But sometimes, people want the satisfaction of doing it themnselves and not having to worry about taking in their cars to someone. Also not all shops have mandral bending machines and the fact that the magna flow has the system already made to the exact specifications for the right amount of horse power sounds pretty good to me.
As far as welding the system, sometimes you have to remove it for other repairs that may happen along the way. And I know that our cars are not going to run properly with 2.5 inch pipe. So, you might want to rethink your stance on a system already made for your vehicle. espcially since the system does come with a resinator (good for the cops to stay away) for a deep sound and your civic system done in modesto has a straight pipe.(Not good for the cops to hear :roll: )
Just sharing the knowledge :D Are you?
Hottexhaust 03-02-2004, 12:49 PM As a shop owner, Stylis has first hand knowledge as to the differences in a custom made hydraulic bent exhaust system vs. a factory made mandrel bent cat-back system tuned to the particular nuances of the specific vehicle it's made for. Nothing wrong with going either way, but your not getting the same product....each has its own benefits which may or may not be important to you....
As a shop owner, Stylis has first hand knowledge as to the differences in a custom made hydraulic bent exhaust system vs. a factory made mandrel bent cat-back system tuned to the particular nuances of the specific vehicle it's made for. Nothing wrong with going either way, but your not getting the same product....each has its own benefits which may or may not be important to you....
Exactly! Two different kinds of styles and values to look at when deciding on an exhaust.
DenZinz 03-02-2004, 09:43 PM metal pipe is metal pipe.......any good shop can mandrel bend.....and any good import shop should be able to build u an exhaust system rather quickly that would do better then your cookie cutter magnaflow.
I believe that the magnaflow is a full stainless system..It will outlast any taiwanese made b-pipe that is mass produced also, or your terms "cookie cutter."
.....that system's pipe is run in the exact same place as the old pipe...hung on the same hangers...and with 2.25 pipe to boot...lol....i would bet money a good shop could make me a system for my scion with 2.5inch that would get way better gains then the magnaflow system.
2.5 is a bit much for a 108 hp motor. You will lose low end torque.
[qoute]as far as i knew all proffessional race exhaust systems were and always will be custom built[/quote]
Im sure even they spent hours R&Ding there custom exhaust.
mgmlot93 03-12-2004, 04:40 PM Stylis..... any word yet on price??? I need to order now!!!
Munch 03-12-2004, 05:02 PM I just ordered mine today. I'm getting it for 399.95 shipped to my door :D . I should have it by tuesday. I can't wait :twisted: :twisted: . CBSIMONSEZ if you want one hit me up, and any east coast guys that want it. Feel free to PM me and I'll give you details.
CBSIMONSEZ 03-12-2004, 11:35 PM $400 for an exhaust, man thats kinda steep. I also have to watch cabin noise, cause the wife is usually on the phone with clients while im driving. I have the Iceman and the Vibrant Exhaust on the NEON, which we are using till the xB comes in, and if i punch it, she cant hear the other person on the phone ... kinda funny, but i get yelled at. :lol:
I just ordered mine today. I'm getting it for 399.95 shipped to my door :D . I should have it by tuesday. I can't wait :twisted: :twisted: . CBSIMONSEZ if you want one hit me up, and any east coast guys that want it. Feel free to PM me and I'll give you details.
I am sorry to say, I cannot beat that. My price came in at 475.00 for the cat back , NOT including shipping. See I can't compete with the other online places, but I can compete with customer service! :D And you have a name\face\location to me. So let me know guys.
Munch 03-13-2004, 12:29 AM I just ordered mine today. I'm getting it for 399.95 shipped to my door :D . I should have it by tuesday. I can't wait :twisted: :twisted: . CBSIMONSEZ if you want one hit me up, and any east coast guys that want it. Feel free to PM me and I'll give you details.
I am sorry to say, I cannot beat that. My price came in at 475.00 for the cat back , NOT including shipping. See I can't compete with the other online places, but I can compete with customer service! :D And you have a name\face\location to me. So let me know guys.
Wow even Hotexhaust.com has it for $437.
http://www.hottexhaust.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=15822
mgmlot93 03-13-2004, 03:56 AM I just wish I knew where to order it for the 399.95, is it a secret or something? I pm'd him this afternoon and have not heard back. Anyone know where to order this for 399.95??
Munch 03-13-2004, 04:21 AM I just wish I knew where to order it for the 399.95, is it a secret or something? I pm'd him this afternoon and have not heard back. Anyone know where to order this for 399.95??
I gotta make sure it's ok with my friend first. That's why I didn't pm you back yet. patience is the ultimate key bro.
Munch 03-13-2004, 01:58 PM Those of you who Pm'ed me I sent you a PM on where to get the exhaust for that killer price.
brarsandeep 03-13-2004, 02:05 PM Ok, I know everyone is raving about how good this system and I do not doubt it one minute, since it is Magnaflow, but I would still like to here how it sounds inside and outside of the car. The sound clips on the Magnaflow website have to much echo in the background to really tell if it is to my liking.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
mgmlot93 03-17-2004, 05:34 PM Well, it just got drooped off by UPS - it looks great!! Lava Xb is "supposed" to be here early next week. I can't wait to get all this stuff put on!!
Well, it just got drooped off by UPS - it looks great!! Lava Xb is "supposed" to be here early next week. I can't wait to get all this stuff put on!!
don't forget to post some pics! :D A magna flow setup on a lava would look sick!
XBBOY 03-17-2004, 09:01 PM Magna Flow on a Lava has already been done, it was done on Nish's vin 002 SE/HL at the Magna Flow meet last weekend. Looks Great. I think there are some pics on the SE site gallery. Check them out.
as far as the noise factor, I am sponsored by Magna Flow and one of the first to run the system. It really sounds great on the outside w/ minimun noise on the inside. Not mention the performance it adds to your car.
[quote="XBBOY"]Magna Flow on a Lava has already been done, it was done on Nish's vin 002 SE/HL at the Magna Flow meet last weekend. Looks Great. I think there are some pics on the SE site gallery. Check them out.[quote]
Sorry, didn't make the meet man. And no one posted up that they had a Lava with a magna flow set-up. So, it is still new to me. :shock:
Digger 09-03-2005, 03:40 AM I like the entire system... but I can't swing the price. Guess I'll try something on the low-end of the price spectrum. :(
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