For all those who hate me for speaking some fact. Please see the following post:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13079

Look at the bottom post... Dyno results with headers, intake, etc...
The beginning shows the dyno results for the pieces.. seems a bit optimistic to me... but also consider that the results of these individual mods are not cumulative.

"I just got back from a car show in Melbourne Florida (Cars For Charity) and had by XB dyno'd just to see if what the dealerships are telling us is true. My 2004 XB is a stock engine with AEM cold Air and DC Sport headers, Auto trans and Borla catback exhaust. The dyno was 83 hp. Very disappointing!! I know I have a set of big chrome wheels and auto trans, but I was expecting to be at least 100 hp. There were at least 10 other XB owners there watchin and we just didn't know what to say. I believe that the dyno operator did an agressive job of getting on it, but that was all the little engine could do.....

I did win low HP run of the event hands down, but that is not something to be proud of.

putt putt putt putt putt puttttttttttt

Here are picture of the dyno run.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v295/h...qr/Dyno%20Run/
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OK.. now let the excuses fly!

 

all I'm gonna say is them's some big wheels.

 

So so sad, but i believe it unfortunately. Thanks for posting your results though.

How was the charity show, i couoldn't make it because of the shop holding my box for so long.

 

No........people hate you for being a dick. People love facts........they don't like people who are dicks.

KiL

 

Big and heavy = less hp shown on the dyno.

 

Great reply. It says it all.. So you are how old , 12 or 13 ?

If you do a search and read my posts, you will see the facts. The truth is out there if you want to see for yourself.
I am just passing along some experiences and facts. Please look up my last few posts and have someone read them to you.

" A fool and his money are soon parted"

 

It appears YOU are the one with the problem reading and comprehending. You have this belief that people dislike you because you are doing such of wonderful public service by providing "facts." That's a nice way to dismiss your attitude. But the FACT is........people have responded negatively to you because every post I've read of yours wasn't just helpful provision of information............it came with a side of "hey look at what an _______ I am."

We already have people around here with FACTS.......who happen to be able to pass them on without being condescending *****. So.....you bring nothing to the table here.

And I'm 11........get your sh*t strait.

KiL

 

there's a difference between what car's HP output is @ the crank vs @ the wheels... you'll always have a loss if you measure it @ the wheels...

 

Haha.. thanks for proving a point. The only reason you're so upset over this is because you have a problem with facts. Don't like to hear or believe it. So You can resort to all the name calling you want, but you can't dispute the facts, little boy. So when you grow up enough to understand and handle the truth you might see things differently, but I wouldn't hold my breath...

 

them's some big heavy wheels, ain't they?

 

Please tell me what facts I have a problem with........I'm dying to know.

KiL

 

Oh.......and in case you were unaware............that is now THREE unsubstantiated claims you have made against me in three different topics.

I know you don't want to look like a complete idiot............so I'm sure you'll do your best to try and explain just exactly what I ever said that you are basing your claims off of.

Claims that are as follows:

1. Where did I state anything about performance gains on any mods? Please provide an example.


2. What items am I fond of? Please let us all know where in that topic I claimed anything about fondness for any item.


3. Again.....please tell me............what fact is it that I have a problem with?



I'd like to see how you came up with all that. But, like you, I won't be holding my breath...................cause you manufactured all that crap out of thin air.

KiL

 

Boylou, Nice of you to take my comments out of context. That's the way you settle an arguement. I won't lower myself to your standards. I presented facts, just do a search and read the posts. You resorted to name calling and did nothing but cry foul without providing any facts or info.
So go ahead and play your game. It fits you well. When you want real useful information, Have someone read my posts to you. I doubt you will understand them but who knows, almost anything is possible.

 

What facts are you stating here ... I can't seem to figure it out ... We all know the Scion has no power ... So what facts are you stating ...

 

Way to try and dodge the bullet.......but it was a pathetic attempt at best.

"It was taken out of context" is ONLY a defense when the context gives the statement a different meaning. Taken out of context..........your statements MEAN EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY.........left in context, you statements MEAN EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY. Anyone is welcome to go back and read the context and see for themselves. You fabricated those claims. Period.

So explain how you came up with them............I'm still waiting.


And as lavabox pointed out..............what exactly are the facts you think you are presenting. Most of your posts are merely your opinions......which you choose to share with a cocky attitude that makes people want to ____ in your cereal. The "facts" presented in this post are simply proving what mostly everyone here already knows..........that the simple bolt ons provide very little if anything. So just who the hell is it you think you've educated.................and what exactly was the lesson that we didn't already know?

Come on oh great teacher of teachers.

But before addressing that last question of mine............don't forget to try and explain how you came up will all that bull____ about me.

Thanks.

KiL

 

wow guys calm down... he was just sharing his dyno results for people who don't seem to know everything like you. His results could be comparable to others because every car might have different mods changing results but hes just showing what he got. CHILL OUT.

 

WHEELS, big WHEELS..

 

I will say two things , Huge and very heavy looking wheels , and a slushbox.
On a seperate think McBain i don't want you to start calling me immature also but in all honesty you come off as a know it all jerk , I have seen some facts but.....most people on here know that bolt ons cannot make a car , many internal pieces are needed to be used to extract extra power. Just lighten up with you attitude because you really do come off as an ___. I'm trying to tell you so people actually look for information in you posts versus just scoffing at how much of a hard ___ naysayer you seem to be.

 

I swear I saw some dyno tests that showed a stock xB with 93HP, which sounds
about right accounting for a 10-15% loss in the drivetrain.

Can big wheels really make that much of a difference?

 

I am begining to think that the wheels might have something to do with it.