http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/NOS/NOSNS/PwrFoggr.html

I really dont know that much about NOS but if i get this system and only used the 35 shot would i need to get a new manifold and forged internals and would it cause great stress on my car if only used say 10 times a year?

I haven't heard anything about this system before. The tC should be able to handle the 75 shot completely stock. Just go with a colder plug. Nitrous works best when you have an unrestricted exhaust also.

I would recomend the NX #20923-10

I really dont know that much about NOS but if i get this system and only used the 35 shot would i need to get a new manifold and forged internals and would it cause great stress on my car if only used say 10 times a year?

Don't take this the wrong way, but you're only kidding yourself into thinking you'll only use n20 only 10 times A YEAR. Nitrous, when set up and used correctly, is safe (and addictive). I've had it on my last three cars, and forced induction is really the way to go. Nitrous is not cheap when you start adding bottle warmers, sensors, purge kits, etc. Just my .02 cents.

i should have my zex kit in running a 75 shot some time mid april and then its my tc is going to the track april 2nd im looking to stomp my friends 99gtp and maybe keep close to my other friends 98z28. from what i have heared the inake manifold will f-ck up with a 120 shot but there is a company going out with a new manifold that wont get ruined they also have a vid of there tc with the 120 shot keeping up with a srt-4 with some mods so thats not bad

also go with one of these kits http://zex.com/ they seem to be the safest and they are the only kit the monitors bottle presure and only lets enough fuel in to keep it from running to rich or to lean the only bad thing is the color but im getting min painted so i dont care about that

all i have to say is....Read my Sig...

get a universal import kit. i think LOTS of research is in your future before using nitrous.

^ he is right i have been looking into it for about 1 month now i think its the right thing for me becouse i only want the power at the track so i get limited ware and tear on the engine. but some peaple want constint power they can use on the street so they go with turob's or sc or crazy rebuilt n/a setups but i just want a bottle its easy to install and if you get a good kit like the zex or nx it will be alot less likely to f-ck up your engine

i sprayed a 75 shot on a D17 civic for 1.5 years, incident free. make sure you get a wet kit BTW.

^ yeah i know that it keeps the engine from running to lean what was the civic running in the 1/4 mile with a 75 shot

all i have to say is....Read my Sig...

I read your signature and I agree... I like my women with out a BUSH. I dont care to coment on your political views, although I also agree.

all i have to say is....Read my Sig...

Dig the nos quote.. just not too keen on the bush bashing :tap:

however im one to talk, i guess my avatar could be a bit harsh :lalala:

All in good fun!!

What about Bush? :P

all i have to say is....Read my Sig...

Dig the nos quote.. just not too keen on the bush bashing :tap:

however im one to talk, i guess my avatar could be a bit harsh :lalala:

All in good fun!!

Love your avatar!! :silly:

the way i see it is....we are all people with opinions...you dont see us argueing and bickering about the color of your car...like bush or kerry.

im not gonna sit here and _____ and tell you that your wrong.

thats why there is a VOTE. its all in good fun.

come on guys this isnt a political forum so lets just drop it

NAWZ!!!! Too soon junior!!

4 words i like to call "TimmyT's Unofficial Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment". "All throttle... NO bottle."

what does every one have against nitrous? as long as your not an idiot you should be fine using it

Nothing against Nos. But when you mod your car. Lots of things can go wrong. Too easy to mess up with nos, its like putting a can of gasoline near a fire. Safe enough as long as you pay attention to the can, but accidents happen. Better safe than sorry IMO.

i guess so but the main issue peaple have is running to rich or to lean or sprying when in a high gear at low speeds most good kits dont alow any of these to happen

its just alotta money for that much trouble.

dont let us affect your decision...but you did ask out opinions

all throttle, no bottle. just like saying

little boys use the bottle, real men get blown

Nitrous is BAD NEWS!!! All it is good for is blowing ____ up. My friend put it on his 2004 Corolla-S and it fried the rings in about 4 hours and it is now worthless.

there are a couple of things you have to look in to what is the compretion ratio of that corolla -s your friend messed up how well does the car handel boost is it like the tc where it runs fine on around 8psi? also in what gear and and what speed was he spraying? how large of a shot was he using? did he retard his ignition 1 degree for every 20 hp over a 35 shot? and was it a good kit that monitored WOT and fule presure and bottle presure to keep the car from running to ritch or to lean? if he had checked in to all of this he probly wouldnt have had any of the problems he has now one of my friends that ownes his own shop has a focus svt running a 75hp shot he tracks it alot and also runs it on the street and it has been fine for 1 and a 1/2 years

there are alot of things to look in to before you decide to do this and saddly enough most companys dont tell you all of these things they just sell you a kit and tell you to slap it on

He was running a 75 shot. NX says that you do not have to retard the timing, they said that is all a bunch of horse crap that the shops try to sell you extra. He just used the wrong spark plugs, thats why it went boom.

Be careful how much "naws" you use because you might blow the wleds on your intake or worse yet... you'll lose your floorpans!! :rofl:

^ that was the biggest bs i have ever seen in a movie lol

^ that was the biggest bs i have ever seen in a movie lol

Remember what Vin Diesel said at the end of that race? "I live my life 8 seconds at a time" or something like that. I dunno about you, but that whole race scene had to be the loooooongest 8 seconds of my life :doh:

i also dont see any cars with full systems and playstations in them running any where near an 8 sec. 1/4 mile in fact i dont thing there are many cars with nice interiors running below 10's what a bs movie it was intresting but maid ever thing to dramatic and fake but thats what movies are for i guess

Be careful how much "naws" you use because you might blow the wleds on your intake or worse yet... you'll lose your floorpans!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That was great.... I almost forgot that stupid part of an even more stupid movie!!!! :-)

those guys couldn't run an 8 second 1/8th mile in those bling wagons :rofl:

They had some cool looking cars.... but the people involved in making that movie knew NOTHING about cars or racing. It fits right in there with Biker Boyz and Torque.

those guys couldn't run an 8 second 1/8th mile in those bling wagons :rofl:

They had some cool looking cars.... but the people involved in making that movie knew NOTHING about cars or racing. It fits right in there with Biker Boyz and Torque.

Why would you ever name a movie about sportbikes "Torque" when they have everything EXCEPT torque? It would be like calling a movie about Honda Civics "The Fast and the Furious".... oh... wait :lalala:

^ lol but the fast and the furious deserves a little more credit it did get more peaple in to car modding wait never mind it jacked up the price of the supra f-ck that movie i had plans on buying one till that movie came out and pushed it out of my price range and also it got peaple around here to make the supras look dumb as all hell i hate when the have aluminum wings and decals no car needs stickers if any things a list to let peaple know what there is to steal off the car

^ lol but the fast and the furious deserves a little more credit it did get more peaple in to car modding wait never mind it jacked up the price of the supra f-ck that movie i had plans on buying one till that movie came out and pushed it out of my price range and also it got peaple around here to make the supras look dumb as all hell i hate when the have aluminum wings and decals no car needs stickers if any things a list to let peaple know what there is to steal off the car

Tell me about the Supra. About 6 months before the movie I found a turbo MKIV for $17,000 with 45,000 miles on it. Saved up some money, but didn't have all of it till after the movie was released...all of a sudden that $17,000 car was now being sold for $25,000!!! :doh:

Torque was the worst waste of film possible. Half the time I was trying to figure out whether I am watching a cartoon or a movie.

those guys couldn't run an 8 second 1/8th mile in those bling wagons :rofl:

They had some cool looking cars.... but the people involved in making that movie knew NOTHING about cars or racing. It fits right in there with Biker Boyz and Torque.

Why would you ever name a movie about sportbikes "Torque" when they have everything EXCEPT torque? It would be like calling a movie about Honda Civics "The Fast and the Furious".... oh... wait :lalala:

lol...... nice one!

Also, about the supras.... ever since that movie I have seen people selling worn out supras on ebay claiming all kinds of horsepower... my favorite was one I saw a few weeks ago. "650 HP" for $4900. Yeeeeeaaahhhhhh what he had was a supra with a nearly trashed engine he was trying to pawn off on some fast and the furious addict kiddy with no clue..... I would have loved to buy a supra to build... but like you guys said, the movie jacked up the price on the ones worth buying... but we can just all wait till those idiots tear theirs up due to cheap builds and poor driving and buy them cheap :silly:

And on the subject of these idiotic movies... who do they think acts like these people??? Like the "i get the money.. and the respect" lines in fast and crapious and the stupid assed people in the other two movies mentioned. I am pretty sure you would get your ___ beat for even acting that stupid!! But the movies are fun to laugh at anyway! :rofl:

WTF people, even tho its fun rippin on rich actors in movies this is a NITROUS fourum

those guys couldn't run an 8 second 1/8th mile in those bling wagons :rofl:

They had some cool looking cars.... but the people involved in making that movie knew NOTHING about cars or racing. It fits right in there with Biker Boyz and Torque.

FYI, RJ DeVera was the "kid" playing GT on the Playstation. I guarantee you he has more knowledge in his pinky finger about cars then 1/2 of this board combined. :D Not that I'm defending the movie, there were defenitely some incredibly stupid parts in there, just pointing that out (he was also used as a consultant for the movie).

NAWZ!!!! Too soon junior!!

Be careful how much "naws" you use because you might blow the wleds on your intake or worse yet... you'll lose your floorpans!! :rofl:


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For the record, I enjoyed FF and Torque, but I've been known to enjoy mindless entertainment like Space Ghost Coast to Coast, and Teen Hunger Aqua Force. I guess its because I don’t read into much, I try to enjoy it for it is, or isn’t, lol.


Oh, and lets not forget "...and a Motec System exhaust." LOL!

dont even compair ff and torque to aqua teen hunger force or space ghost coast to coast

lol! Well, they're all mindless entertainment, and I enjoy every minute of it. :P

I always like the dont use nitrous comments....

Then dont buy a kit. The simple fact of the matter is, most people making those comments have never used nitrous in there lives let alone run quicker than 15 seconds in the 1/4 mile. So that usually means they no NOTHING about going fast and NOTHING about nitrous oxide either.

Here's the plain simple truth -

Any modification can damage your engine if its not used or installed correctly.

You have to pay to play, if your not interesting in paying leave your car stock and be happy with going slowly or by a motorcycle and go play in traffic.

Nitrous is an excellent for those with LIMITED aftermarket options for increasing power. You can go spend $200-300 for that CAI, $200-300 for that DC header and $500-600 for any aftermarket exhaust system you want. But I'll eat you alive with a simple 50hp nitrous kit.

Period end of story.

Even an Automatic TC would whoop arse with nitrous.

You can research all you want but the basics still apply. READ THE DIRECTIONS and ALWAYS GET HELP FROM SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING IF YOU DONT KNOW YOURSELF. If all else fails, call CUSTOMER SERVICE.

Dont ask your buddy who THINKS he knows about nitrous. He'll do nothing but provide you with information that will either blow your car up or make you go slower than expected.

After installing and selling nitrous for the last 10 years or so, I know a thing or two about the stuff and I have NEVER, EVER blown up my engine or anybody else's on it. I plenty of PROOF just ask..

For all those that have NEVER USED or INSTALLED NITROUS, I recommend getting a ZEX Wet Kit. Its the EASIEST wet kit to install on the market.

Anybody that has used nitrous before or has installation skills above "shadetree" and owns a proper set of tools, can go with NX's or NOS's wet kits.

Unless you like overpaying for stuff, stay far away from Venom kits. Their kits are NO better or safer than anybody else's kit. The VCN-2000 has closed loop nitrous control, but for that much money, you can get a better nitrous controller and use more nitrous per use than with Venon products.

Just in case you think I'm kidding buy a Venom kit and I'll bet you $100 cash it won't be faster than the same car equipped with a kit that cost several hundred less.

I highly recommend a bottle heater because nitrous loves to operate between 1000-1200psi, not the 900psi NOS recommends. 900psi is still on the richer side of tuning and with a variable presssure controlled bottle heater you'll always be in the sweet spot for nitrous operation. Then again a heater is better than none at all, so if you can't afford a good heater like Arc Heat's, Nitrous Express' or NOS's variable bottle heaters, then get ANY bottle heater! Dynotune sells a reasonably priced unit. You should find it on Ebay for around $120. You can get NOS's old style bottle heater set at 900psi for about $120 also.

I would also install a nitrous pressure gauge, as that's really the only gauge you need for nitrous. Fuel Pressure is another good gauge if you like to monitor your system.

The pressure gauge will tell you several things about your nitrous system's state of operation. Including if your bottle is JUST ABOUT EMPTY. The most important it tells you if you need to turn on your bottle heater or NOT. I set NX and Archeat bottle heaters to come on with the included switch because it cycles between 1000-1050psi (Arc's are adjustable) and doesnt need to be on at all times. Basically if its less than 90 degrees outside your bottle heater should be ON, unless its exposed to direct sunlight which is SHOULDNT in a TC, in which case you need to MONITOR bottle pressure. A bottle mounted gauge is OKAY, but a Pod or hidden and more accurate gauge is better.

For all you scaredy cats out there, 50-75hp is plenty.

With progressive control, you can use 100-125hp with ease if your full pump is up too it. Progressively controlled nitrous is like traction control for forced induction.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the purchase of some BFG or Dunlop DRAG RADIALS.

Why?

You you expect hit-arse ET's out of your stock tires or even non drag radial tires your in for a shock. Your 17" tires won't hold over 200lbs of torque when you snap that bottle open out of the hole (using nitrous in 1st gear out of the hole nets best ET's), so you need some grippier tires with some leyway.

There's no reason a BONE stock TC can't run 14's with a 50hp shot and 13's with a 75hp shot.

I got dead stock Neon automatics running low 15's spinning in 1st gear. Doesn't sound impressive? It does when that same car runs high 17's off the bottle.

If a stock TC runs mid 15's, then 50hp will knock your ET's down to the 14's provided you know how to DRIVE and you have decent traction. BFG's on 50hp shot will net 1.9 60ft times with some practice. Don't cheap out and get Azenis those are AUTOCROSS tires, not drag racing tires.

Install it properly and you'll be like many others out there than use nitrous, run quicky and have so on the same ENGINE the car came with and with well over 300 nitrous quarter mile passes in some cases.

Just be smart about it and will give you no problems.

I recommend -

The Nitrous Works - kits run about $500 complete add a Max Pack bottle heater kit for $200 more - http://www.barrygrant.com/nitrous/default.aspx

Nitrous Express - Can be found around the net for under $600 and around $800 with GenX Upgrade - http://www.nitrousexpress.com

ZEX - Simple to install nitrous kits (Wet systems for TC's as they dont have a RETURN STYLE fuel system) - www.zex.com

Now let's see some TC's on the bottle. If bottles are for babbies than I rather be on the bottle than fork out who knows how much for a supercharger kit or turbo kit that don't even exist yet. Plus what's better than TURBO + NITROUS or Supercharger + Nitrous...

Happy Hunting

^^^ AMazing write up!

Any thoughts on the Holley NOS wet - power fogger?

http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/NOS/NOSNS/PwrFoggr.html

^ if your going with nitrous get a zex kit they seem to be the safest one of the best priced and the easiest to install

FYI, RJ DeVera was the "kid" playing GT on the Playstation. I guarantee you he has more knowledge in his pinky finger about cars then 1/2 of this board combined. :D Not that I'm defending the movie, there were defenitely some incredibly stupid parts in there, just pointing that out (he was also used as a consultant for the movie).

I don't care if he "consulted them". It was evident in nearly every peice of that movie that it was created by someone with NO knowledge of auto tech or racing. Just because someone who has knowledge of it played a little cameo in the movie does not make it any less realistic. I would bet the knowledge of just about anyone on this post against the idiocracy that was displayed in that movie.

djrmonie, _____in write-up. some good info, too bad no one will get it.

as far as the movie goes. you have to remember it was a movie not a documentary. it was made for the sole purpose of making money (which it did quite well) and was not made for those that are seriously into "the scene". most of the audience would be isolated from the plot so they wouldn't really get what was going on, that or they'd be bored because real life is boring. the simplest way to put it is that it is dumbed down to the lowest common denominator (american youth)