View Full Version : iPhone 4 - Who's Buying?
ack154 06-09-2010, 04:27 PM (Surprisingly) I didn't see a thread for this already... so just curious what others are going to do.
I have a 3GS that I bought last June but will be preordering and upgrading to a 32 GB iPhone 4 ASAP (yay for early upgrading!). Anyone else jumping in? If you are, what is it that you like most about it?
If you are not getting one - is there any one thing you think that it is missing that is keeping you from buying (besides being on AT&T)? I'm taking about the phone itself...
CarbonXe 06-09-2010, 04:29 PM I was about to make a thread :lol:
I'm not supposed to be eligible according to Steve Jobs, but AT&T says I am with an $18 upgrade fee and contract renewal. I'm getting it. I don't want to have to wait until next March to get a new phone, plus I can sell my jailbroken 3G for $200-$225.
bdis3 06-09-2010, 04:29 PM (Surprisingly) I didn't see a thread for this already... so just curious what others are going to do.
I have a 3GS that I bought last June but will be preordering and upgrading to a 32 GB iPhone 4 ASAP (yay for early upgrading!). Anyone else jumping in? If you are, what is it that you like most about it?
If you are not getting one - is there any one thing you think that it is missing that is keeping you from buying (besides being on AT&T)? I'm taking about the phone itself...
I have a 3G, had it since it came out, and The only thing i'm waiting for is the price drop of it. I'll let it be out for a couple months, let them drop the price a little, and fix some bugs, then I'm in.
ack154 06-09-2010, 04:30 PM I was about to make a thread :lol:
I'm not supposed to be eligible according to Steve Jobs, but AT&T says I am with an $18 upgrade fee and contract renewal. I'm getting it. I don't want to have to wait until next March to get a new phone, plus I can sell my jailbroken 3G for $200-$225.
I have the same $18 upgrade fee for mine. Not a problem. Especially with the overtime I'm getting these couple weeks in CA.
FlintMica2005 06-09-2010, 04:53 PM preordering next week is gonan be great!
wtf was the deal with taking off the unlimited data plan? thats really gonna blow for all new customers
ack154 06-09-2010, 04:59 PM preordering next week is gonan be great!
wtf was the deal with taking off the unlimited data plan? thats really gonna blow for all new customers
Eh... the data plan thing sounds stupid, but if it helps me save a few $$, I'm OK with it. I've never gone over 600mb and my g/f has never gone over 800mb. I'll be getting on the 2 GB plan when I upgrade and will be switching her data plan over to that for her 3GS as well. If it saves us $10 combined, I'm all for it - though I can see how it would shaft heavy users. I'd like to see it at $20 for 2GB instead.
FlintMica2005 06-09-2010, 05:02 PM existing customers can keep there unlimited plan, and the 2gb plan is what? only 5$ cheaper? id much rather keep the unlimited
CarbonXe 06-09-2010, 05:11 PM Eh... the data plan thing sounds stupid, but if it helps me save a few $$, I'm OK with it. I've never gone over 600mb and my g/f has never gone over 800mb. I'll be getting on the 2 GB plan when I upgrade and will be switching her data plan over to that for her 3GS as well. If it saves us $10 combined, I'm all for it - though I can see how it would shaft heavy users. I'd like to see it at $20 for 2GB instead.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1291/4662681217_37c91d34d1_b.jpg
:lol:
FlintMica2005 06-09-2010, 05:12 PM jesus thats your chart jon? how do you find that??
CarbonXe 06-09-2010, 05:15 PM Go to ATTwireless.com, it's somewhere under data usage.
I stream XM radio about 40 hours a week lol.
December was actually only a few days, as I was in the Caribbean for a few days, the Marshall Islands for 18 days, Hawaii for 3 days, and Vermont for 2 days. :lol:
FlintMica2005 06-09-2010, 05:17 PM just checked mine, i go over every month by 1gb lol
april 3gb, may 3.2gb :lol:
tcday 06-09-2010, 05:17 PM sucks to be me i'm going to be a new customer to att since i don't see a way to hack the new iphones ughhh
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FlintMica2005 06-09-2010, 05:18 PM im on pandora listening to music literally the entire day so i guess thats where my usage comes from
tcday 06-09-2010, 05:31 PM pandora FTW
CarbonXe 06-09-2010, 05:32 PM XM > Pandora.
tcday 06-09-2010, 05:35 PM in a sense yes xm>pandora but pandora is free
FlintMica2005 06-09-2010, 05:35 PM being able to listen to certain genre of music and just that>XM
CarbonXe 06-09-2010, 05:46 PM being able to listen to certain genre of music and just that>XM
It's called change the channel. Every channel is basically 1 genre specific, Octane is hard rock, Alt Nation is alternative, Lithium is grunge, etc.
And Pandora ____ing sucks now, Last.fm is so much better.
ack154 06-09-2010, 05:49 PM Damn Jon, that's crazy. Ironically enough I'm sitting here streaming Pandora right now - but mostly b/c I'm too lazy to get my iPod out of the rental.
CarbonXe 06-09-2010, 05:51 PM What's the rental?
ack154 06-09-2010, 06:20 PM What's the rental?
2010 Ford Edge. There are 3 of us with luggage, so something "fun" was out of the question. The Edge is nice though, I'm pretty impressed.
CarbonXe 06-09-2010, 06:24 PM Fugly as sin, but the new Ford lineup is sreis biznis.
FlintMica2005 06-09-2010, 06:31 PM It's called change the channel. Every channel is basically 1 genre specific, Octane is hard rock, Alt Nation is alternative, Lithium is grunge, etc.
And Pandora ____ing sucks now, Last.fm is so much better.
I know FIRST HAND that XM won't have any of the type of music I like, they'll have all of that mainstream crap and then some that doesn't matter to me lol pandora does its job and does it good! I don't like a song boom bam next track :lol:
FlintMica2005 06-09-2010, 06:33 PM butt I am intrigued on last.fm what is it?
FlintMica2005 06-09-2010, 06:52 PM I get a commercial every so often not much. I love pandora!
im gonna try this last.fm out I highly doubt ill like it
CarbonXe 06-09-2010, 07:03 PM It's the same thing as Pandora, with less restrictions, more music, and less commercials.
I will when it goes on sale.
Sciond 06-10-2010, 12:51 AM Android FTW wait until you see the tablets coming out
Sciond 06-10-2010, 12:54 AM XM > Pandora.
Only because of Howard Stern
1GreeKtC 06-10-2010, 01:02 AM He's actually getting the short end of the stick as well.
The CEO of XM announced a while back that they won't be needing Stern or his outrageous demands, anymore to carry them with sales. He's getting a massive pay cut and he's not very thrilled about it.
burstaneurysm 06-10-2010, 01:44 AM I'm totally upgrading. My 3G's battery has seen better days (lasts like an hour of actual usage)
I don't have to pay the $18 upgrade either.
Preordering a black 32GB and probably using the 200MB plan (since I don't get a signal at work, my usage hasn't gone over 187MB in the past 7 months.
mrhat 06-10-2010, 01:56 AM I use anywhere from 6-11gb per month of usage, so upgrading and moving to a capped data plan is not in my future. If I buy one outright can't I just take the sim out of my 3gs and have a working iphone4? my 3gs can't hold a charge to save its life, but i dont sweat it that much.
FlintMica2005 06-10-2010, 02:01 AM if your an existing at&t customer you dont have to get the 200mb or 2gb plan, you get to keep your unlimited data plan, the capped plans are only for new customers
mrhat 06-10-2010, 02:05 AM oh rly? Im going to have to call and see what I can do, I am on my moms family plan, got my 3gs in August but want to upgrade but also break to a new plan with my own line, if I can keep unlimited ill be getting a iphone4 for sure.
FlintMica2005 06-10-2010, 02:08 AM yeah you can def keep it, you can wait a few months after you have the iphone4g and just call up to say you wanna seperate that line to your own name. i did that with my mother a few yrs ago
1GreeKtC 06-10-2010, 02:10 AM I wonder if I'm eligible for an early upgrade....I want this!
tcday 06-10-2010, 03:02 AM didn't u have an iphone and got rid of it for a bb
mrhat 06-10-2010, 03:03 AM called them and I can transfer my new line with a new 2 year contract to get the new contract pricing but keep my unlimited, plus military discount puts me at same price as if I stayed on a family plan, plus more credit building por yo. I volunteered to help at the oil spill so hopefully i can snag a preorder, will they sell out of preorders if i dont catch it that day? good thing I can keep unlimited. paying for 6-11gb per month would kill me lol.
Murphys_Law 06-10-2010, 05:58 AM ill wait till one hit the pawnshop in a few months, just like the iPad did
CarbonXe 06-10-2010, 12:47 PM Only because of Howard Stern
Stern blows and he's on Sirius, not XM.
CarbonXe 06-10-2010, 12:48 PM I wonder if I'm eligible for an early upgrade....I want this!
Call *639#. It will tell you what your eligibility is.
Sciond 06-10-2010, 04:38 PM Stern blows and he's on Sirius, not XM.
maybe you missed the merger..... maybe use the i phone to catch up on current events....
no accounting for taste
FlintMica2005 06-10-2010, 05:11 PM wait? i know xm and sirius merged BUT i thought stern was only available if you buy the "best of sirius" package??
mrhat 06-10-2010, 05:22 PM everybody chip in and we'll get a dev account to get it early lol.
Sciond 06-10-2010, 05:57 PM wait? i know xm and sirius merged BUT i thought stern was only available if you buy the "best of sirius" package??
correct so that means he is on XM also....kinda like HBO is on cable
FlintMica2005 06-10-2010, 06:03 PM hmmmmmmmmmm..
1GreeKtC 06-10-2010, 06:10 PM im not eligible for an upgrade of any sort. :(
full price FTL!
mrhat 06-10-2010, 06:32 PM ya me too, not eligible for upgrade til 2011/april
1GreeKtC 06-10-2010, 06:36 PM july '11 -______________-
tcday 06-10-2010, 07:09 PM FAILED.....lolz.....i have to call att friday to open up my account then next week preorder my ish
CDogbert 06-14-2010, 02:30 PM http://gizmodo.com/5557598/should-i-buy-an-iphone-4
My Android phone (Samsung Moment), even before the latest OS update, is still more functional than the new iPhone is looking to be... and so is my Sprint plan.
I never understood the whole "iPhone upgrade" craze, anyway; you essentially pay $200 every year to look forward to the next time you can pay $200? And for what? So you can have a phone that's on par with the rest of the industry? And on a service provider with laughably bad service? No thanks.
Oh, and last.fm is miles ahead of Pandora. I can listen to my entire music library through it at work, listen to it on my Android on the way home, and listen to it on my Xbox when I get there... and it's free. And even then, the full subscription is something like $3/month.
mrhat 06-14-2010, 02:38 PM I stopped an honestly thought about it, I am probably going to wait, my 3gs is probably a year old, jailbroken with all the junk I already want, if I want to go good I can upgrade to the os4 update without some features, but to pay every year for a new iphone seems kind of stupid. and I use the sdfsdf out of mine.
Yanki01 06-15-2010, 02:33 AM ordering mine tomorrow morning. i love my 3GS but i love the 4 even more.
tcday 06-15-2010, 02:43 AM i have the first gen iphone with edge network i think i'm due for iphone 4
Yanki01 06-15-2010, 02:48 AM wow, yes i would say its time for an update. at least you got your money's worth if you spent the $399/499 when it originally came out.
tcday 06-15-2010, 02:55 AM yea 399 i believe 8gb these phones are hardcore.......my phone been through everything and it's still in one piece i hope the new one holds up
diego_demarco1025 06-15-2010, 02:57 AM alrite so let me see, i used my upgrade 1 year ago to get the 3g iphone, i switched it for a blackberry 8900, how much would i have to pay to get the new iphone, when does it come out
Yanki01 06-15-2010, 02:57 AM from edge to 3G is a huge jump. im sure this one will hold up just fine.
Yanki01 06-15-2010, 03:01 AM alrite so let me see, i used my upgrade 1 year ago to get the 3g iphone, i switched it for a blackberry 8900, how much would i have to pay to get the new iphone, when does it come out
check with att to see how much you have to pay. it sounds like it would be $399/$499. pre-order starts tomorrow. it will be released June 24th.
diego_demarco1025 06-15-2010, 03:02 AM oooo alrite thanks, also what does it have that the 3g or 3gs doesnt have
Yanki01 06-15-2010, 03:04 AM http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare-iphones/
Jasper Ash 06-15-2010, 03:01 PM Grrrr. I can't pre-order online. Both the AT&T site and Apple site are being stupid and giving error messages.
Holy massive pre-order overload, Batman!
I've read that they should have enough for everyone to pre-order past the first day. Maybe they learned their lesson from the iPad shortage?
mrhat 06-15-2010, 05:05 PM lol at the preorder. My iphone actually just took a dump on me this morning, It used 10% battery in about 15 minutes, I sent 2 text messages. might have to preorder:(
Jasper Ash 06-15-2010, 08:41 PM Word of advice. Don't try to go to the AT&T store or Apple store. They just try to set you up using the apple website and because off the mass volume you get nothing. I was in the Apple store for 20 minutes and everyone was on a Macbook trying the site. Everyone failed. Lol.
burstaneurysm 06-15-2010, 09:02 PM lol at the preorder. My iphone actually just took a dump on me this morning, It used 10% battery in about 15 minutes, I sent 2 text messages. might have to preorder:(
My phone goes from 100% battery to 20% in under an hour.
mrhat 06-15-2010, 10:38 PM I got told by the lady at the att store when i preordered that it was faster to have it mailed to me than the store, any truth in that, she said tomorrow I could call and we could change from mail to store, but she said something like she doesnt know how much the store has or some ya ya ya.
some ftw, a 25 year old guy was in there and the store was only taking credit card, no debit or check cards, and he only had a debit card. He started to cry at the desk and when he walked out he tried to break the front door off. lol.
Yanki01 06-16-2010, 03:51 AM lol at the credit card story.
i tried this morning and just like the rest of the world, the store was down so i didnt try until i got home. through out the day i saw tons of problems trying to order from other users. i tried again when i got home from the gym and it took no more than 5mins. i cant wait!
the only thing i dont get is why the white one isnt available. im sure it sucks and bad thing on apples part but i hope there's a good reason why. although i dont see what a good reason would be. they should of had enough in stock for the pre-order. good thing i wanted the black one.
:)
burstaneurysm 06-16-2010, 05:02 AM I went to AT&T after work today, waited in line for about 35-40 minutes. Would've been way faster if the douchebag sales guy wasn't trying SO HARD to nail the girl who just wanted a phone. It went on for half hour easy, he kept showing her his phone and talking about how cool it was and all that.
I wanted to yell out "she's not gonna ____ you, dude!"
Anyway, their servers were still down and they imprinted my card and gave me the carbon copy... smh.
I did just get an email from AT&T today asking about my recent purchase, so they must've been able to process it today.
Yanki01 06-16-2010, 05:28 AM still no confermation email from apple and i cant get into my apple account to verify. ill check tomorrow.
Jasper Ash 06-16-2010, 10:06 AM When you reserved your phone online, did you do it for in store pick up? I did and I didn't have to pay or give credit card info. I just got a "See you at the store." and it asked me to bring my photo ID. I feel like if I don't get to the store by 7am they'll sell the phone to someone else.
Yanki01 06-16-2010, 12:22 PM im getting mine shipped to me.
Jasper Ash 06-16-2010, 01:12 PM ^ That's what I'm thinking about doing. Just to avoid all of the bulls___. I'm sure it might take longer to get, but I'll lose my mind in a store full of people trying to bum rush eachother for the iPhone.
mrhat 06-16-2010, 01:54 PM who wants to hear some SDSDFDS, I went in and did the carbon copy thing, she called me today to let me know mine did not get ordered, but "feel free to camp out the night before if we have any extras".
I might just see about apple.com I need to break off my mom's family plan though and get my own and keep my unlimited data.
Jasper Ash 06-16-2010, 04:05 PM Lol. ____. Just order it online. Skip all the bull ____. Its going to be madness at the Apple store next Thursday.
burstaneurysm 06-16-2010, 05:25 PM Verified with AT&T that my preorder went through, he's still not 100% that I'll have it on Thursday, but they said they're expecting a second shipment on Friday. We'll see.
Yanki01 06-16-2010, 07:04 PM Apple said there were over 600,000 pre-order's for the iPhone 4. wow! On apple.com it has a ship date of July 14 now but still no white iPhones? I don't get it?
ecko04 06-16-2010, 07:07 PM I would get one, I don't want to port all the numbers from Verizon though
1GreeKtC 06-16-2010, 07:15 PM ^ hahaha is that really what is holding you back? Transferring your contacts? :rofl:
vettereddie 06-16-2010, 08:04 PM Good luck ordering one. Back to the original question, besides the obvious one answered in the Gizmondo article linked earlier,
"Without a doubt, the fact you must be on AT&T to use an iPhone is the single-most compelling reason to avoid buying an iPhone 4."
I have a standard 3G that still has good battery performance, so I see no compelling reason to upgrade. The 3G gets the new iOS w/ multitasking, the front camera is pointless unless you're talking to another person on the 4, and the price is pretty high when a new 3GS is $99. For the wow / showoff factor / attracting the ladies, onlookers aren't going to know / care if it's a 3G, 3GS or 4.
Probably the biggest reason I won't upgrade yet though is no 4G support. I'm not getting locked into a previous-gen network tranceiver only to wind up like the original iPhone owners, stuck with a slow phone incompatible with new network standards. You know next June Apple will announce the 4G, and it will be just 7 months after I'm able to upgrade.
Do like the tethering option now without having to jailbreak though. Hopefully they let it legally on the 3G with the old unlimited data plan. Also, give me Google Navigation already, or another turn-by-turn GPS program that's actually cheaper than going out and buying a stand-alone Garmin. Right now pretty nice ones are $119. How is a GPS receiver and some software-only twice that for the Tom Tom iPhone app?
If it was compatible with Verizon, I would immediately buy one when my contract is up in November. I could deal with no 4G if it's on a faster overall network with better coverage.
burstaneurysm 06-16-2010, 08:16 PM The 3G will not support multitasking, just the 3GS.
Yanki01 06-16-2010, 08:56 PM if I read it correctly, AT&T will release the 4G network and the iPhone 4 will support it with a carrier update and iOS update. I'm fine with 3G for now.
ecko04 06-16-2010, 08:56 PM ^ hahaha is that really what is holding you back? Transferring your contacts? :rofl:
Seems like you don't know the difference between transferring and porting. :doh:
ecko04 06-16-2010, 08:57 PM if I read it correctly, AT&T will release the 4G network and the iPhone 4 will support it with a carrier update and iOS update. I'm fine with 3G for now.
Incorrect, the iPhone 4 does not have an LTE frequency radio.
1GreeKtC 06-16-2010, 09:00 PM Seems like you don't know the difference between transferring and porting. :doh:
Enlighten me because I truly don't know the difference.
I really thought you were talking about transferring some #s lol
ecko04 06-16-2010, 09:07 PM Enlighten me because I truly don't know the difference.
I really thought you were talking about transferring some #s lol
Well you know what transferring contacts is obviously lol. Porting is the process of retaining a number established with another carrier over to the new carrier. In my case it would involve porting 12 numbers from Verizon to AT&T. I wish I could port only 1.
1GreeKtC 06-16-2010, 09:14 PM So you're pretty much talking about keeping your number?
12 numbers wtf?
ecko04 06-16-2010, 09:36 PM So you're pretty much talking about keeping your number?
12 numbers wtf?
Yep, family business decision...not mine. It would be an easier decision if AT&T matches the 25% discount we have with VZW.
vettereddie 06-17-2010, 12:48 PM The 3G will not support multitasking, just the 3GS.
yeah, just caught that on the Apple site "not all features compatible with all devices, multitasking 3GS & 4 only, etc. etc". Really don't understand that one other than to push people to upgrade. The 3GS isn't a general leap forward in processing power, I would think the 3G would be up to the task.
When 4G compatibility hits, I'll switch, unless there's something better w/ Android then.
burstaneurysm 06-17-2010, 02:07 PM yeah, just caught that on the Apple site "not all features compatible with all devices, multitasking 3GS & 4 only, etc. etc". Really don't understand that one other than to push people to upgrade. The 3GS isn't a general leap forward in processing power, I would think the 3G would be up to the task.
When 4G compatibility hits, I'll switch, unless there's something better w/ Android then.
The biggest difference between the 3G and the 3GS is the RAM. The 3G simply doesn't have enough memory to multitask, hell, it barely has enough memory to run a few of the apps out there. I couldn't imagine trying to multitask with my 3G.
ecko04 06-17-2010, 02:30 PM The biggest difference between the 3G and the 3GS is the RAM. The 3G simply doesn't have enough memory to multitask, hell, it barely has enough memory to run a few of the apps out there. I couldn't imagine trying to multitask with my 3G.
Exactly, using backgrounder or whatever the app is called that can send apps to the background on a jailbroken iPhone causes the 3G to run sluggish as hell.
ecko04 06-17-2010, 02:32 PM When 4G compatibility hits, I'll switch, unless there's something better w/ Android then.
You'll be waiting for awhile, LTE won't happen on AT&T until late 2011 not to mention the iPhone 4 doesn't even support LTE nor will it. It will take an upgrade to a newer iPhone, probably Summer of 2011 or 2012, that will support the LTE frequencies.
It isn't just a software update and bam hello 4G.
vettereddie 06-17-2010, 02:45 PM Yeah, that is my assumption that Apple will release a 4G-compatible version in June 2011. And will most likely call it the iPhone 4G (goes from 3G, to 3GS, then 4 but not 4G?). My hope is that they'll open it to multi-carrier then too, since I believe Verizon's 4G will finally be in-line with the rest of the world's using the LTE-Advanced standard.
When is the AT&T exclusivity contract up? Thought it was sometime this year.
ecko04 06-17-2010, 03:48 PM Yeah, that is my assumption that Apple will release a 4G-compatible version in June 2011. And will most likely call it the iPhone 4G (goes from 3G, to 3GS, then 4 but not 4G?). My hope is that they'll open it to multi-carrier then too, since I believe Verizon's 4G will finally be in-line with the rest of the world's using the LTE-Advanced standard.
When is the AT&T exclusivity contract up? Thought it was sometime this year.
I assume that's the precise reason they didn't name it 4G, they didn't want people to assume it was 4G capable or 4G ready. Verizon will be LTE but on a different frequency so who knows if the next iPhone will have the radio for Verizon.
It was rumored that AT&T exclusivity contract expired early this year but later some documents emerged that shows AT&T inked a 5 yr exclusivity deal which would make the end date 2012, I would take that with a grain of salt.
For the first time, that I recall, AT&T is offering early upgrades to iPhone owners to renew those 2 yr contracts and lock them in. This leads me to believe that exclusivity is over and Apple is working with another carrier either T-Mobile or Verizon. I wouldn't be surprised if we see an iPhone 4 released on another carrier in the US before the year ends.
vettereddie 06-17-2010, 04:17 PM Scratch that, they won't call next years model the iPhone 4G. It will be called the iPad mini.
CarbonXe 06-17-2010, 04:48 PM The biggest difference between the 3G and the 3GS is the RAM. The 3G simply doesn't have enough memory to multitask, hell, it barely has enough memory to run a few of the apps out there. I couldn't imagine trying to multitask with my 3G.
I multitask with it all the time and it runs just fine.
CarbonXe 06-23-2010, 07:49 PM Got my iPhone this morning. :banana:
FlintMica2005 06-23-2010, 08:34 PM i multitask with my 3g all the time aswell
FlintMica2005 06-23-2010, 08:35 PM post pics jon!
CarbonXe 06-23-2010, 09:36 PM Okay, multi-tasking on the iphone 4 is completely superior to jailbroken backgrounding. It runs smoother, you have more options, you can run more programs...it's awesome. If you're using Pandora and you open another app, say iBook, you don't need to back out of iBook to change the song. Just double tap the home button, swipe the multi-task bar and there are all the Pandora controls.
http://i45.tinypic.com/nwdgue.png
CarbonXe 06-23-2010, 09:37 PM The camera is awesome.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1027/4727721559_cd8a2353be_b.jpg
vs iPhone 3G.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1263/4727721035_1a70dc01ae_b.jpg
CarbonXe 06-23-2010, 09:38 PM http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1177/4727201925_40ce86fbae_b.jpg
CarbonXe 06-23-2010, 09:38 PM Camera flash. It was very dark in my hallway.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1326/4727590413_81dd5d877a_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1026/4728234546_65178d423c_b.jpg
burstaneurysm 06-23-2010, 10:01 PM Wow, that's pretty impressive.
AT&T lied to me today. I was given a tracking number and when UPS said it was delivered to the AT&T store and signed for, I called them.
They proceeded to tell me that they haven't received any phones. I kept pushing it saying they gave me a tracking number and that they're just straight up lying.
Long story short, the store manager will be personally handing me my phone at 8AM tomorrow morning. LOL
CarbonXe 06-23-2010, 10:18 PM That's why I ordered mine from Apple directly, and got it shipped to my house. I didn't want to deal with the bull____ from AT&T or the lines tomorrow.
FlintMica2005 06-23-2010, 10:39 PM wow! im so ____ed i cant order one till the end of july!
Yanki01 06-23-2010, 11:03 PM got mine this morning at work, had to wait all day until now so i can activate. brb
Yanki01 06-23-2010, 11:48 PM this phone is wow, just wow!
coryjames 06-24-2010, 12:03 AM Was going to get this but I think the
Evo wins by a nose plus 8meg camera and 4g
Yanki01 06-24-2010, 12:06 AM Was going to get this but I think the
Evo wins by a nose plus 8meg camera and 4g
a friend has an evo at work, 4G isnt that great in our city so its a tie. the 8mp camera is nice but its still a phone. if you want better pics, get a real camera.
mrhat 06-24-2010, 01:24 AM wont be upgrading. I have my XSI attached to my hip and the 3gs will do now that I can multitask . AT&T ____ed me off by taking me off my family plan and onto my own plan and than she said they didnt actually preorder my phone but I can wait in line when they are in stock. Finally got my account canceled and added back to my family plan. They tried to tell me I had to pay 18$ transfer fee both times.
Yanki01 06-24-2010, 01:38 AM another reason why Carbon and myself ordered through apple. much more professional and easier to deal with. no problems on ordering mine.
mrhat 06-24-2010, 01:55 AM I had to go through AT&T to break off from my family plan so I could keep my number and unlimited data, otherwise Apple to my door ftw. I've been mad with AT&Ts service, they turned the service/data off to my phone and said I ran up a 400$ data bill in the british virgin islands, after filing a appeal to it they call back 3 weeks later and say the charge was never there or some BS. AT&T is the iphone deal breaker to me.
Yanki01 06-24-2010, 02:04 AM sorry to hear, ive had zero problems with them thus far. :knocking on wood:
CarbonXe 06-24-2010, 02:22 AM Was going to get this but I think the
Evo wins by a nose plus 8meg camera and 4g
Megapixels mean absolutely nothing. By saying it's better because it has more MP, means you're saying the EVO camera is better than a Nikon D40. And 4G is non-existent outside of major cities.
FlintMica2005 06-24-2010, 03:18 AM x2
burstaneurysm 06-24-2010, 04:17 AM Anyone having issues with the reception thing or the yellow screen?
Yanki01 06-24-2010, 04:40 AM Anyone having issues with the reception thing or the yellow screen?
reception a little but no yellow screen. they said att and apple are aware of the reception issue and a fix is comming.
1GreeKtC 06-24-2010, 04:42 AM such an upgrade........damm contracts!!
bdis3 06-24-2010, 04:59 AM so no multitasking for me and my 3g. Debating on upgrading to a 3Gs, or 4. 3gs is cheaper, is everything I need, and has been proven. 4 is brand new, and I kind of want the bugs worked out. I think i'll try to find a 3Gs
Yanki01 06-24-2010, 12:30 PM if you have the time, go to an apple store and mess with both the 3GS and 4. im sure you'll pick the 4.
mrhat 06-24-2010, 12:52 PM what about the bad reception and yellow dots? Not to be a debby downer or anything. I was still thinking of picking a 4 up even though AT&T blows.
vettereddie 06-24-2010, 01:02 PM Anyone having issues with the reception thing or the yellow screen?
Saw this on Gizmondo but thought it might just be them being ____ed off about the search and seizure and ban from WDC after they paid for an early stolen iPhone. After reading about them turning off all the displays at CES, including during presentations, I'll lost pretty much all respect for them.
If the reception issue is real, would love to know what the software fix is. Seems like this is a hardware issue, i.e. antenna in the metal band, hand over the band. Let's hope it's not a non-conductive wrapper like the Wii remote protector.
FlintMica2005 06-24-2010, 01:04 PM so no multitasking for me and my 3g. Debating on upgrading to a 3Gs, or 4. 3gs is cheaper, is everything I need, and has been proven. 4 is brand new, and I kind of want the bugs worked out. I think i'll try to find a 3Gs
jailbreak it for multitasking/backgrounding. atleast for now. mines jailbroken and im waiting till the end of july to get my 4 since there not selling them anymore till then
mrhat 06-24-2010, 01:39 PM I got told by my AT&T store that I can go in on tuesday and they'll save a 4 for me since they screwed me over.
FlintMica2005 06-24-2010, 01:50 PM no clue, i called to get one yesterday theyre not selling them till the end of july, maybe some will be different in person
ack154 06-24-2010, 02:24 PM Got mine yesterday as well... AWESOME.
No yellowness issues for me - but have a read here: http://www.tipb.com/2010/06/24/explanation-fix-iphone-4-yellow-splotch-problem/ (it might just go away on its own)
The antenna thing does happen if you do it just like they show in the videos - but is that a "real world usage" example? Not to mention I have a bumper on order so it won't matter anyway.
NurSpec 06-24-2010, 09:51 PM you like it so far? Are you on the 4g network?
tcday 06-24-2010, 10:01 PM new iphones are not on 4g network......but they are 4g ready
ecko04 06-24-2010, 11:45 PM new iphones are not on 4g network......but they are 4g ready
Incorrect, the iPhone 4 does not have an LTE frequency radio (hardware).
It will take an upgrade to a newer iPhone, probably Summer of 2011 or 2012, that will support the LTE frequencies.
It isn't just a software update and bam hello 4G.
ecko04 06-24-2010, 11:46 PM Megapixels mean absolutely nothing. By saying it's better because it has more MP, means you're saying the EVO camera is better than a Nikon D40. And 4G is non-existent outside of major cities.
4G is non-existent within major cities
coryjames 06-25-2010, 01:44 AM im on 3g and with the wifi from 3g i was getting 3mbs i played xbox off it was a little laggy but if you had to i would tolerate it
burstaneurysm 06-25-2010, 05:35 AM I love this thing. The jump from 3G to this is awesome.
CarbonXe 06-25-2010, 12:16 PM Time to restore my 3G and unlock it =D
CDogbert 07-07-2010, 01:29 AM 4G is non-existent within major cities
A little birdie told me that Sprint is rolling out its 4G network this month in St. Louis.
CarbonXe 07-07-2010, 02:13 PM A little birdie told me that Sprint is rolling out its 4G network this month in St. Louis.
They've had 4G in most major cities for a while now. It's still non-existent.
CarbonXe 07-07-2010, 06:23 PM The camera on this thing is awesome.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4771507309_e546559070_z.jpg
FlintMica2005 07-07-2010, 11:50 PM woahh the camera on that thing is awesome
purpled_out_tC 07-23-2010, 01:57 PM i'm looking at getting an iP4 upon my return from overseas. just concerned about the monthly price tag if i get out of the military in a few months.
ack154 07-23-2010, 02:09 PM i'm looking at getting an iP4 upon my return from overseas. just concerned about the monthly price tag if i get out of the military in a few months.
Ya, you're looking at nearly $100 for one device with data plan and unlimited text... with the lowest minute plan. My g/f and I are on one shared plan, each with an iPhone, with unlimited family text, and two 2GB data plans... and the bill is around $150 - even after my corporate discount for work.
CarbonXe 07-23-2010, 02:28 PM $86/mo after taxes and fees, 450 mins, unlimited text, unlimited data. 8)
20% national discount FTW!
mrhat 07-23-2010, 03:41 PM the white one needs to hurry up, I've tried to find a used blackberry in savannah or charleston but no one has one.
ack154 07-23-2010, 04:08 PM the white one needs to hurry up, I've tried to find a used blackberry in savannah or charleston but no one has one.
Not even on craigslist? There are a ton of crappy phones on CL near me.
FlintMica2005 07-24-2010, 05:07 AM everyones getting a national discount? or just people with iphone 4's??
FlintMica2005 07-24-2010, 05:10 AM Ya, you're looking at nearly $100 for one device with data plan and unlimited text... with the lowest minute plan. My g/f and I are on one shared plan, each with an iPhone, with unlimited family text, and two 2GB data plans... and the bill is around $150 - even after my corporate discount for work.
i have the lowest plan 450 min/5000 weekend mins, unlimited text & Data and i pay $107. Mind you i have the unlimited data and not the 2gb crap
purpled_out_tC 07-24-2010, 10:58 AM thanks for the numbers guys. what is the "national plan" discount? i'll still qualify for military when i make it back.
flint, how much is your unlimited data plan? i know they don't have it anymore for new data plan customers, just wondering.
FlintMica2005 07-24-2010, 03:09 PM the unlimited is 30$ it really sux that they changed the plan to the 2gb crap
CarbonXe 07-24-2010, 03:12 PM the unlimited is 30$ it really sux that they changed the plan to the 2gb crap
It's only the 2GB plan for new customers, I'm still on unlimited.
FlintMica2005 07-24-2010, 03:14 PM yeah thats what i mean. i still have the unlimited, but for purpled out tc it would be 2gb
mrhat 07-26-2010, 02:24 PM picked up a Blackberry 9700 for 250. I know ill regret it but the BB is a solid phone. Web browsing is way better on iphone . maybe ill have to reevaluate later..
ack154 07-26-2010, 02:33 PM The 2GB data plan anyone would get if signing up now is $25/mo. Unlimited text is $20 (unless you have multiple lines, unlimited family text is $30).
ack154 07-26-2010, 02:35 PM thanks for the numbers guys. what is the "national plan" discount? i'll still qualify for military when i make it back.
There are various discounts out there for different amounts. I would imagine you should get a decent military discount though. My work one is only like 10 or 12%. If even that. But every little bit helps...
MeatRocket 07-26-2010, 02:48 PM i just upgraded my original iphone to the iphone 4. i love the new iphone but i keep getting a sim card error that gets annoying after a while:flame:. i m going to the att store later to see if i can get a fix.
mrhat 07-26-2010, 03:16 PM Guy on my cutter has AT&T and he gets 19% discount for military.
ack154 07-26-2010, 03:44 PM i just upgraded my original iphone to the iphone 4. i love the new iphone but i keep getting a sim card error that gets annoying after a while:flame:. i m going to the att store later to see if i can get a fix.
I've heard of that from someone else... likely a bad device. Doubt they'll have a problem swapping it.
Easiest fix though may just be to pop the SIM out and insert it again.
purpled_out_tC 07-26-2010, 05:53 PM yeah thats what i mean. i still have the unlimited, but for purpled out tc it would be 2gb
yeah i was tracking on what you meant. but i was just curious as to how much more money the unlimited was; and $5 more for unlimited is nothing compared to being limited to 2gb/month.
FlintMica2005 07-26-2010, 06:06 PM exactly. it really blows that they removed the unlimited plan
ack154 07-26-2010, 06:10 PM I actually switched my plan (and the g/f's) from the unlimited to 2gb. Neither of us are ever even near 1GB... so I'd rather save the $10+ per month on the two plans. Actually it worked out to be around $15 savings (taxes?). My bill for 2 iPhone was $161 but now is $145 after switching both data plans.
Then again if you really do use a LOT of data, I can see how it would totally blow to not have unlimited anymore. You'd think they'd still offer it but just charge a little more. $35? $40? I don't know.
FlintMica2005 07-26-2010, 06:20 PM i use like 4gb of data a month.
purpled_out_tC 07-27-2010, 06:50 PM in any case i'm just ready to get back and get an iPhone. whether it be 3gS or the 4.
Yanki01 07-28-2010, 12:46 PM dont waste your money on a 3GS. spend the extra $100 for the iPhone 4. the display is worth the $200 itself. the cam/video is great, its so fast, just better all around.
have you had the chance to mess with an iPhone 4?
CarbonXe 07-28-2010, 01:19 PM I'm with Yanki, if you're not going to get the 4, you might as well just buy the 2G. The difference between the 3GS and 4 is massive. Once you get used to the screen, all other mobile devices look like garbage, the camera is great as I've shown before, it has twice the memory so it can handle multitasking better, the battery life is significantly better, the speakers are better...etc etc.
Yanki01 07-28-2010, 06:43 PM and free cases. I'm getting a refund for my bumper, I ordered a free one via the case app, a friend is giving me his free bumper and I ordered a free case 2 days after the iPhone 4 came out.
as much as I want this iPhone naked, I can't. I care too much for it.
MeatRocket 07-29-2010, 01:46 AM and free cases. I'm getting a refund for my bumper, I ordered a free one via the case app, a friend is giving me his free bumper and I ordered a free case 2 days after the iPhone 4 came out.
as much as I want this iPhone naked, I can't. I care too much for it.
i know what you mean its feels so cool in your hand but then again i dont want to damage it.
CarbonXe 07-29-2010, 02:24 AM I actually dislike the way it feels without a case. Compared to my 3G, I just couldn't get a comfortable feeling while playing games with it, the edges are too sharp. With a bumper however, it feels great.
Yanki01 07-29-2010, 04:09 AM i wish i got white, couldnt find it anywhere and didnt want to go any longer without a case. they only had blue so i got it. my friend is giving me his black one. the blue is growing on me, i wish it was darker.
CarbonXe 07-29-2010, 12:19 PM You don't want white. I've seen the white bumpers and after 1 week of use, they're no longer white.
Yanki01 07-29-2010, 12:48 PM tru, my blue is getting dirty also. idk who was behind the color decision, they should be fired.
CarbonXe 07-29-2010, 12:50 PM :lol:
I wouldn't mind a red bumper.
ack154 07-29-2010, 12:53 PM I had bought an orange bumper when I ordered the phone. It arrived a couple weeks ago just before they announced the free bumper/case crap. Hated it. Feels like ____. Fits loose and is half rubber and half hard plastic. Fail.
So I got my refund for it but still didn't use it. I figured eBay market was dead for them since Apple was giving everyone cases... not so much. Sold it for $40 on eBay a couple days later (ya, it was $30 new).
So I basically got $40 for free since I had been refunded for the bumper from Apple. Win.
CarbonXe 07-29-2010, 09:38 PM http://vimeo.com/13612648
Awesome comparison of the 4 iPhones.
MeatRocket 07-29-2010, 11:47 PM wow i didnt realize how slow my 2g was lol.
purpled_out_tC 07-30-2010, 11:36 AM dont waste your money on a 3GS. spend the extra $100 for the iPhone 4. the display is worth the $200 itself. the cam/video is great, its so fast, just better all around.
have you had the chance to mess with an iPhone 4?
No I haven't. I'm planning for the iP4, but have read that AT&T can't fully support the 4. So I was going to look into getting a 3gS at a cheap cost so I wouldn't be locked in a contract with AT&T until they could fully support the 4G network. Figured by that time another iPhone will have came out or be coming out soon enough.
Yanki01 07-30-2010, 12:38 PM what can they not support? its not running on 4G and whether you buy the 4 or 3GS, your still locked in a 2yr contract.
ack154 07-30-2010, 12:43 PM ^ That.
The iPhone 4 is not 4G as in 4th generation of wireless network (like the EVO). It is just the 4th generation of iPhone. So AT&T supports it just fine... well, just fine for AT&T anyway. :)
And the 3GS is cheaper, but still is on contract unless you nab one off of eBay or something. I sold my 3GS for $275 on eBay when I got my iP4. That was for the 16GB... so expect prices in that neighborhood if you buy outright - only then would you not have a contract.
Yanki01 07-30-2010, 01:15 PM as much as i loved my 3GS for the year i had it over my original iPhone before and my moms 3G (painfully slow), there's no doubt knowing now how much better the 4 is over all of the iPhones that its the obvious choice. being its the newest of the pack, the 4 is the best choice. if money is an object, save the extra $100 or whatever more you need for the 4. its on a whole different level than the 3GS now. i sold my 16GB 3GS for $290 a couple of weeks ago.
ive convinced 3 people from work who for whatever dumb reason, they just bought the 3GS from att all during this past week. idk if att's pushing the 3GS more than the 4 because they have non in stock but i told them to return it. after playing with mine, they've done so and have been put on a waiting list and should get their iPhone 4 sometime next week.
purpled_out_tC 07-30-2010, 08:58 PM oh no i wasn't going to go threw AT&T for a new 3gS, at that rate you may as well get the 4. I saw that the 3gS still had a 2-year contract on it an that cancelled out that option. I also looked at eBay to see what they were going for and at that price point I'd go with the 4 as well. Now if I somehow come across a 3gS for $100 w/o contract I'll give it serious thought into to picking it up; doubt that will arise though. I won't be able to get it until late this year/early next so I have time.
CarbonXe 08-02-2010, 07:34 PM Jailbreak for the 4 is out.
Once I get home from work, I'm backing up my phone and jailbreaking it. 3G facetime, facetime with other phones, no subscription tethering, etc. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
coryjames 08-02-2010, 07:57 PM Poor iPhone users wish the iPhone had more then a look at me I'm hip cool status. video chat is a joke cams are a joke. with the rate Droid is breaking ground iPhone will be just like a toy Chihuahua cute and worthless
CarbonXe 08-02-2010, 09:34 PM Poor iPhone users wish the iPhone had more then a look at me I'm hip cool status. video chat is a joke cams are a joke. with the rate Droid is breaking ground iPhone will be just like a toy Chihuahua cute and worthless
Next time, understand the differences between the phones before you try to try to join the conversation. It would also help if you knew how to speak English, that way everyone could understand what you're trying to say.
Yanki01 08-02-2010, 11:00 PM Poor iPhone users wish the iPhone had more then a look at me I'm hip cool status. video chat is a joke cams are a joke. with the rate Droid is breaking ground iPhone will be just like a toy Chihuahua cute and worthless
que?
CarbonXe 08-02-2010, 11:49 PM Cydia, Installulous and Rock installed. :biggrin:
Can't get My3G or MyWi 4.0 right now, servers are slammed, so 3G facetime and tethering will have to wait. :(
http://i25.tinypic.com/2a828pk.png
mrhat 08-03-2010, 02:38 PM I'm waiting for my 3gs that hadn't been previously jailbroken to be able to jailbreak on ios4:( Than Ill install android on it and mess around now that i have the bb9700
mrhat 08-03-2010, 02:44 PM I fail... visited jailbreakme.com does it through the phone, no recovery mode and what not:)
ack154 08-03-2010, 02:48 PM Poor iPhone users wish the iPhone had more then a look at me I'm hip cool status. video chat is a joke cams are a joke. with the rate Droid is breaking ground iPhone will be just like a toy Chihuahua cute and worthless
Android is cool and all, but they still have ZERO hardware I'm interested in. I have quite a few friends with Android phones and not a single one is appealing to me.
And as worthless as you may think it is (have you ever had an iPhone or really used one?), it does everything I need it to and more. I would typically refer to that as the complete opposite of worthless.
:blah:
CarbonXe 08-03-2010, 03:05 PM Tested tethering, at work, inside my warehouse...
http://www.speedtest.net/result/901746990.png
diego_demarco1025 08-03-2010, 03:09 PM has anybody had problems with the home button, sometimes when im using an app and click on the home button it wont work, it takes a couple of clicks to go back to the home screen
mrhat 08-03-2010, 03:13 PM carbon, I read with people tethering on the BB9700 that something with proxy and ips makes mobile tethering web test inaccurate. Don't know if it's same for iphone4, either way isn't tethering nice? I had it back when I was in virgin islands and the whole island has wifi, but it was like 15 bucks for 1 night, while everyone was mad about paying I just whipped out the iphone.
CarbonXe 08-03-2010, 03:29 PM I get 4.1-4.3Mb/s when doing a speedtest over 3G on my phone, and I was consistently getting 3.2-3.7Mb/s when doing the speedtest on my laptop, while tethered to my 3G. So it seems like it's relatively close.
mrhat 08-03-2010, 03:45 PM any apps you recommend? I had my 3gs jailbroken about a year ago but didn't really go past a custom theme? Pretty happy with the 9700, but I miss touchscreen so I might pick up a iphone 4 without contract
CarbonXe 08-03-2010, 03:47 PM MyWi 4.0, My3G, Installulous, Rock, Winterboard, SBsettings, LockInfo...and that's about it off the top of my head. I mostly use the jailbreak to get free apps. :lol:
purpled_out_tC 08-03-2010, 04:44 PM ^^don't know what half of those programs are.^^
feeling a bit old. lol
Yanki01 08-06-2010, 03:52 PM anyone who has a bumper and it feels a bit loose, boil it. I did for a minute, dried it off and let it sit for a minute and you now have a snug and tight bumper on your iPhone 4. No joke, boil it. only a little amount of water is needed, enough for it to sit under water.
purpled_out_tC 08-06-2010, 04:41 PM i'll remeber that if i get a bumper for my iP4 one day. :)
ack154 08-06-2010, 05:08 PM anyone who has a bumper and it feels a bit loose, boil it. I did for a minute, dried it off and let it sit for a minute and you now have a snug and tight bumper on your iPhone 4. No joke, boil it. only a little amount of water is needed, enough for it to sit under water.
Mine felt a bit loose... but I still didn't care for the overall feel of it.
Yanki01 08-06-2010, 05:11 PM now it feels part of the phone.
Yanki01 08-06-2010, 10:13 PM the buttons are also alot tighter. mine were loose before.
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