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Chimmy3
03-01-2005, 12:29 AM
anyone know
what is the deal with exhaust grounding?

does it do anything? Why does it do anything? and why do kits use the weird flat braided wire?

http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-1-1-1-27590.cfm

xmetalx
03-01-2005, 12:42 AM
Sun Automobile now offers specialized earthing straps to properly ground your xB exhaust system to the chassis. Based on research and development of the Hyper Ground System, the new exhaust earth is designed to maximize exhaust efficiency. Hot Earth exhaust and muffler ground wire can be install to your xB stock exhaust system, or aftermarket performance cat back and universal muffler system.
Hot Earth Exhaust Ground System for Scion xB Features:
-- Increase torque response
-- Reduced static electricity in exhaust
-- Reduced vibration noise from exhaust
-- Easy installation with common hand tools.

snuppy
03-01-2005, 12:48 AM
hmmm... never seen that before...

i'm assuming since it's grounding muffler/exhaust to chassis, the braided wire handles vibrations/movement better than regular wire (?)...

dayam... 36 bucks... :eyebrow:

scooter123
03-01-2005, 12:49 AM
Two hints:
1: For the same reason that the hood has a ground strap
2: You'll get a better answer by posting in the ICE section

hotbox05
03-01-2005, 02:40 AM
Actually
the hood doesnt have a ground strap , at least not mine
ice? no it's power hungry
I will however call bs to all of these claims. any effect (at all) will be very minimal. . if it was 16 bucks I'd buy it.

Minsk99
03-01-2005, 02:45 AM
Interesting. I'm in the process of installing an armature radio in my ride and some of the reading I've been doing has suggested grounding the exhaust system to reduce "noise" over the radio. I'm assuming that since the exhaust is a "conductive" extension all the way from the engine (header) that its basically the same thing as grounding any other engine part that is usually included in a grounding kit. Just a guess.

Scott17
03-01-2005, 03:04 AM
Pure junk! The reason they sell this stuff is naieve people buy it! :rofl:

scooter123
03-01-2005, 03:31 AM
Sorry if I mislead. Every car I’ve ever owned has had a grounding strap for the hood. (And I’m not going outside now in a blizzard to scope the XB.) A car represents an electromagnetic field which affects radio reception. Any large metallic part which is in proximity to this field which either changes its alignment or has intermittent contact will alter radio wave access to the receiver. Everyone’s noticed how people walking around a radio or TV will affect reception. The hood and exhaust are imperfectly grounded through a hinge or hanger and will, through minor shifts and vibrations, create radio noise. I once got rid of a friend’s radio noise in a ’67 Mustang by ground strapping his doors. I’ve heard of improved radio reception by grounding trunk lids and hatches.

Grounding the exhaust shouldn’t affect horsepower unless the O2 sensor wants a better ground.

The next warm sunny day I’ll look at the XB’s hood and see where the ground is. That should be in June!

Derk-xB
03-01-2005, 03:39 AM
Pure junk! The reason they sell this stuff is naieve people buy it! :rofl:

Werd. That's gotta be the lamest scam I've ever heard of. Grounding out your exhaust system? Because your exhaust is carrying current? Damn, I hope not!

Lonely_Raven
03-01-2005, 03:52 AM
I think the exhaust it pretty well grounded to the motor.
But that's just me.

Added torque my ___...

B2FiNiTY
03-01-2005, 08:39 AM
Ha! What a scam.

Kong
03-01-2005, 04:46 PM
Interesting find, I think it may not effect engine performance. Even if it work, you shouldn't buy it. Makes one yourself for less than $5.

snuppy
03-01-2005, 05:51 PM
hmmm... yah, maybe we can convince mikochu to do another awesome DIY... :bow:

although, i believe in the benefits of the engine bay grounding (brighter lights/lower idle rpms)... i'm wondering how much longer it'll be until someone decides that the driver and passengers need to be grounded as well... perhaps we can beat them to the punch...

http://www.sunequipco.com/TOOLS/TOOLKIT/GWS/gws-06(2).jpg
complete with a drill bit to drill straight through the firewall/bulkhead and have direct contact with the battery negative...
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0001IWL6M.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

i'm thinking we can sell the driver/passenger grounding kit for about $149.99 each... who's with me?.. :money:

Scott17
03-01-2005, 06:01 PM
Group buy? I'll take 3!!!!! :rofl:

kacosta
03-01-2005, 06:32 PM
ive seen these on mazdas and some nissans but benefit if the guy who designed the car thought it was necc then let it be

Huskersnow
03-01-2005, 06:40 PM
Read page fourteen of your Scion manual it says right there,

"when changing your muffler bearings it is recomended that at this time you also install an exhaust grounding kit"

boilerman
03-01-2005, 07:35 PM
Snuppy has solved my static problem when I get out of the car. I will just use my computer ground strap to keep myself neutral.

unlmtdndeavor
03-02-2005, 10:38 PM
Read page fourteen of your Scion manual it says right there,

"when changing your muffler bearings it is recomended that at this time you also install an exhaust grounding kit"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: and dont forget to recalibrate the spring rate on those bolts