This is post to keep all service bulletins easy to find. when you have one, feel free to post the tsb number. If you see any false information here, please pm me or post and I will edit this post with the correct information.

cd player skipping:
TSB # AU004-03
PANT Bulletin 03-23

Rattles:
http://home.earthlink.net/~frazsj/SQUEAKANDRATTLESERVICETIPS.pdf

Cold Air Intake:
There is a problem with the cold air intake rubbing and messing up the filter. Take it to any dealer to have this fixed, although I don't know about any TSB's for this.

Thanks to CorollasBest For TSB Info

http://www.corollatoys.com/parts/ScionTSBs.htm

SCION TSB's
TSB Number Issue Date Applicable Vehicles Title
AC002-04 FEB 04 xA/xB A/C Not Cold Enough
AU004-03 AUG 03 xA/xB Single CD Player Pause
AX001-03 MAY 03 xB Initialization of Radio
AX006-03 DEC 03 xA Security Passive Arming Mode
BO020-03 NOV 03 xB Back Door Trim Loose
BR001-04 FEB 04 xA Zero Point Calibration
NV007-03 JUL 03 xA Squeak and Rattle Service Tips
NV008-03 JUL 03 xB Squeak and Rattle Service Tips

UPDATE LINK
http://www.corollatoys.com/TSB/Scion.htm

EDIT: tC TSB List:
http://home.cfl.rr.com/icdedppl/faq.html#b7
-10/14/05 - ack154 -

Air conditioning blowing too warm:

TSB# AC002-04 posted feb11th 2004,

if you're having trouble just go to your dealer, they can look it up. basically you need to adjust the air-mix damper control cable assembly.

Air conditioning blowing too warm:

TSB# AC002-04 posted feb11th 2004,

if you're having trouble just go to your dealer, they can look it up. basically you need to adjust the air-mix damper control cable assembly.

anyone get this done yet?

Air conditioning blowing too warm:

TSB# AC002-04 posted feb11th 2004,

if you're having trouble just go to your dealer, they can look it up. basically you need to adjust the air-mix damper control cable assembly.

Is it something that can be done myself. Does anyone have a copy of the TSB that they can email to me?
I used my AC for the first time this week and it's not very cold.

Thanks.

ikonXone, do u think u can find the TSB pdf file for AC problem??
thanks so much!!!!

if ne one needs TSB's emailed...email me at banditsinc@yahoo.com
i got em all, and no there is none open now for the cold air intake...ill keep checking for updates

if ne one needs TSB's emailed...email me at banditsinc@yahoo.com
i got em all, and no there is none open now for the cold air intake...ill keep checking for updates

thanks for offering this.

im just tryin to make ur lives easier

cuz ive been in scions with these annoying rattles and wutnot, and i know how bad it is...

if ne one needs TSB's emailed...email me at banditsinc@yahoo.com
i got em all, and no there is none open now for the cold air intake...ill keep checking for updates

thanks for the offer...can u send to the admin or moderator so they can put it up for everybody??

if not, can u send all the scion xb TSBs to accordted@yahoo.com ?
thanks so much

Found some really great websites for locating service bulletins, recalls, etc. I'm sure as the cars get older, more items on Scions will show up. Here are the links:

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04_mk.html

http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=98&did=556

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm

http://www.mycarstats.com/auto_TSBs/TOYOTA_TSBs.asp

http://www.theautochannel.com/F/db/servicebulletins.html

Here is the TSB for the xA backseat:

TSB# NV007-03

New TSB:

SS002-03 DEC 03 xA/xB Special Service Tools O2S Test Results

New TSB:

EG012-04 MAY 04 xA/xB Intermittend Rough or Low Engine Idle at a Stop

I have an 05' xa do i need to be concern about any of the above mention services.

I have an 05' xa do i need to be concern about any of the above mention services.

Nope! You'll get your own TSB later on!

Found some really great websites for locating service bulletins, recalls, etc. I'm sure as the cars get older, more items on Scions will show up. Here are the links:

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04_mk.html

http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=98&did=556

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm

http://www.mycarstats.com/auto_TSBs/TOYOTA_TSBs.asp

http://www.theautochannel.com/F/db/servicebulletins.html

Thanks for the Great list SCI FIRE!! :D

Found some really great websites for locating service bulletins, recalls, etc. I'm sure as the cars get older, more items on Scions will show up. Here are the links:

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/04_mk.html

http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=98&did=556

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm

http://www.mycarstats.com/auto_TSBs/TOYOTA_TSBs.asp

http://www.theautochannel.com/F/db/servicebulletins.html

I just clicked through all those links. None of them have the xB TSB's.

Does anybody have the actual text of the air con TSB? Can you kindly post it or point me to the location? thanks in advance

I just clicked through all those links. None of them have the xB TSB's.
Does anybody have the actual text of the air con TSB? Can you kindly post it or point me to the location? thanks in advanceikonXone created this topic and included this link http://www.corollatoys.com/parts/ScionTSBs.htm. Check out AC002-04 (the first one listed).

ikonXone created this topic and included this link http://www.corollatoys.com/parts/ScionTSBs.htm. Check out AC002-04 (the first one listed).

Thanks... That's great! Too bad I'm not in the affected range though. Maybe I'll have to try the hose insulating wrap thing.....

C T site is dead. don't click the links any more.

NV008-03 JUL 03 xB Squeak and Rattle Service Tips

What do these numbers mean? I have a rattle in my dash that is pretty damn annoying. Thanks! xB is 100% stock!

are there any tsb's for the tC? where do you get/find these things at?

NV008-03 JUL 03 xB Squeak and Rattle Service Tips

What do these numbers mean? I have a rattle in my dash that is pretty damn annoying. Thanks! xB is 100% stock!

print this out and take it to the dealer. they should have no problem fixing it.

http://home.earthlink.net/~frazsj/SQUEAKANDRATTLESERVICETIPS.pdf

posted in another thread

I'm unsure if this has been posted (no time to look), but here is the website for the 2004 xB TSBs, as up to date as they keep it.

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/86/04860201.html

How to I print out a detailed description of the xA TSB's to take to the dealer?

I also have some iritating rattles that I'd like to have looked at.

They have the TSB's there. They might plead dumb though, so take the numbers in there with you and say "I think this rattle MIGHT be TSB xxx-xxxx".

Thanks to CorollasBest For TSB Info

http://www.corollatoys.com/parts/ScionTSBs.htm



That link is not working for me. I'm looking for the alignment TSB, thanks!

Thanks to corollasbest for this one: save to your hard drive while you can

AC not cold enough, then this is the TSB for you

xA: http://www.corollatoys.com/images/temp/ac006t04.pdf

xB: http://www.corollatoys.com/images/temp/ac007t04.pdf

See last post for link!

I'm putting my TSB page back online since they never got hosted by somebody else.. new link for all TSB's is...

http://www.corollatoys.com/TSB/Scion.htm

Thanks! Saved to hard drive in case needed.

Dang, now _that_ is a hefty procedure! I wonder if the improvement in cooling is worth the potential harm of disassembling all that hardware?

Anyone had this one done yet?

George

Dang, now _that_ is a hefty procedure! I wonder if the improvement in cooling is worth the potential harm of disassembling all that hardware?

Anyone had this one done yet?

George

I'm still wondering how we tell if our cooling is working properly :?:

Dang, now _that_ is a hefty procedure! I wonder if the improvement in cooling is worth the potential harm of disassembling all that hardware?

Anyone had this one done yet?

George

I'm still wondering how we tell if our cooling is working properly :?:

Maybe find a way to set up a digital gauge & read what temp your car seems to like & what it should be at? Not sure if that would work.

Maybe find a way to set up a digital gauge & read what temp your car seems to like & what it should be at? Not sure if that would work.

Did that: http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26202&highlight=

No one ever did a reading on their a/c so I have nothing to compare mine to.

Maybe find a way to set up a digital gauge & read what temp your car seems to like & what it should be at? Not sure if that would work.

Did that: http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26202&highlight=

No one ever did a reading on their a/c so I have nothing to compare mine to.

I would think 42* is nice & cold. Maybe the way to test is at fan speed 1. The air I would think should be the same from speed 1 to speed 4 just that speed 4 is pushing the air out much faster, so it fells up the car faster.

Hey guys, I ordered the kit to do my AC last week but the kit was on backorder. When it comes in I will do my car and see what happens. The kit has a higher capacity compressor and condenser. Also a different thermistor and wire harness for the blend doors. The system will have different switches for max cool and max heat, and the system should have more cooling potential. I will post the results when I get done.

1) Can all the TSB's be done to the vehicle even if you don't notice all of them being a problem :?: ....warm a/c, all rattles, alignment issues

2) Will the dealer have to drive the car for any reason :?:

3) Does Toyota pay the dealer for each TSB performed on the vehicle :?: ....which is why each one has it's own time allowed for.

4) Being the anal freek I am about my Box should I let them know the car is new i.e. nothing's been taking apart, interior has no scrathes, all screws and bolts are in place and that I will inspect the work afterwards :?: I've let people in the past (Best Buy / Circuit City) work on my cars and always something f**ked up (scratches or missing hardware).

5) Anything else I should be aware of :?:

1) Can all the TSB's be done to the vehicle even if you don't notice all of them being a problem :?: ....warm a/c, all rattles, alignment issues

2) Will the dealer have to drive the car for any reason :?:

3) Does Toyota pay the dealer for each TSB performed on the vehicle :?: ....which is why each one has it's own time allowed for.

4) Being the anal freek I am about my Box should I let them know the car is new i.e. nothing's been taking apart, interior has no scrathes, all screws and bolts are in place and that I will inspect the work afterwards :?: I've let people in the past (Best Buy / Circuit City) work on my cars and always something f**ked up (scratches or missing hardware).

5) Anything else I should be aware of :?:

1. Yes, thats why its a TSB. Just let them know that you want it looked into.

2. Depending on what the TSB was for, maybe.

3. Yes Toyota pays the bill on this one.

4. Yes you could let them know this & tell them any part you find not like it was, you will have replaced under warranty because of there ____ poor skills.

5. Not that I know of, other then it might be in for a few days depending on how many problems you will have them fix.

5. Not that I know of, other then it might be in for a few days depending on how many problems you will have them fix.

Will the dealers give a loaner vehicle even if it's just for the day? Is an appoitment necessary?

I know I could call the dealer. I want to hear first hand experiences that way I have some leverage and know what to expect.

How about a TSB for the tC sunroof/hatch rattle? Is that ever gonna materialize?!

How about a TSB for the tC sunroof/hatch rattle? Is that ever gonna materialize?!

Here ya go, for the sunroof at least:
TSB NV010-04

Sorry, I don’t have the PDF, just the number. Maybe someone can acquire the PDF and post it, or send it to me, and I'll host it. CorollasBest, if you still need someone to host the TSBs for Scions, I'm willing to, just as long as you keep giving me the newest TSBs. ^^ PM if you want to. If you do PM me, please tell me how much space all of the Scion TSBs are currently taking up too.

TC007-04

tC's loose shifter.


Some 2005 model year Camry, Corolla, Scion tC and Solara vehicles
transmission may experience one or more of the following conditions:

A loose shift gate feel

A rattle from the shift lever assembly

These conditions may be caused by the shift lever assembly retaining ring lifting (see
illustration on next page) and allowing excessive movement of the shift lever. The shift
lever assembly has been improved to eliminate this condition.


2005 model year Camry (Japan Production), Corolla (5 & 6 speed), Scion tC,
and Solara vehicles equipped with manual transmission produced BEFORE the
Production Change Effective VINs shown below.

Scion tC: JTKDE1#7#50016119

i still through checking all the different post and sites haven't seen anything about the paint problems on the bumpers

updated link

were? they dont work!?!

all TSB's are now here:

http://www.club-swat.com/~scion/Scion.htm

That's a great link! Thanks

is there a tsb for the tc paint? water marks?

all TSB's are now here:

http://www.club-swat.com/~scion/Scion.htm

Thanx for the link!

I have saved both TSBs on the AC. I full plan on getting this done as soon as I can. My xA was HELL last summer, since I guess a Japanese AC just can't handle a Southern California summer. I will definitely keep posted on how much the fix improves things.

The a/c can handle the summer fine, its just the air mixture cable they adujst. kinda like adjusting the water from your sink, the mixture of cold and hot water

The a/c can handle the summer fine, its just the air mixture cable they adujst. kinda like adjusting the water from your sink, the mixture of cold and hot water

Well, there's two TSBs...the one where they fix that prob in less than one hour, and the other where they replace tons of junk during 6 hrs. work of work.

The first is a prob, because I've run the vents at night when it's cold, and turn the temp all the way down and still get warm air. I still want to get the second done, because even when the AC does "cool down" and I use recirculate, it's still a bit too warm.

Our other car, an '03 Ford Focus, is freezing even in 100+ temps. You can't leave it on too cold a setting for too long even during a heat wave. I like that.

So my car's going into Redlands Scion tomorrow to get its diagnosis. My partner is going instead of me, so I'm making sure to print out the TSBs just in case. I'm hoping they'll do the simple fix tomorrow and then order parts for the complex fix.

I'm odd. There's been nothing but rain in SoCal, and I'm getting my AC fixed. Well, I wanted to do it before the heat comes back and before time runs out on it.

oo good thing to know about the VSC initialization... didn't know we had to do that

no TSB on installed cruise controls causing electrical problems....imagine that.

Anyone have a location for the xB fuel filler TSB? It isn't on the club-swat site.

Sticky this!!!

Here is my latest list of TSBs applicable to the '04 Scion xB.

AC002-04 Air conditioning simple adjustment
AC007-04 Air conditioning major replacement
AC009-04 Sensor Inspection for Air Conditioning System
AU004-03 CD player pause/skip
AX001-03 Initialization of Radio for xB
AX008-04 Bazooka Bass Tube Hardware Contact Condition
AX011-04 Fog Light Vibration
BO008-03 Seat Belt Extender
BO017-03 Trim Garnish Loose (Rev. 3-3-2004)
BO018-04 Rear Seat Interference (Rev. 11-1-2004)
BO020-03 Back Door Trim Loose
BO022-04 Seat Belt Extender
BO024-03 Seat Belt Extender
BO030-01 Windshield Wiper Blade Maintenance and Cleaning
BR001-04 Zero Point Calibration (VSC) (Rev. 2-16-2004)
BR007-04 Front brake squeak while reversing
BR005-04 VSC and ABS lights on with DTC C1231
EG003-03 Exhaust System - Sulfur Smell
EG012-04 Intermittent Rough or Low Engine Idle at Stop (5 Speed)
EG014-05 Radiator Cap Inspection
EG030-04 MIL ON DTC P0741
EG039-04 MIL ON DTC P0325
EG045-04 Entering VIN during ECM repl. and/or DTC PO630 (Rev. 1-24-2005)
EG049-04 Fuel nozzle clicks off before tank is full
NV008-03 Squeak and Rattle Service Tips
PA005-03 2004 Paint Colors
PD002-03 Pre-Delivery Service (Rev. 5-20-2003)
PD004-03 Pre-Delivery Service
PD005-04 Pre-Delivery Service
PG003-05 Exhaust tailpipe joint clamp installation
SS002-03 Special Service Tools O2S Test Results
ST005-04 VSC Steering Angle Sensor Initialization after Repair
TC002-03 ECM reset memory function (Rev. 12-20-2004)
TC002-05 Loose Feeling in manual transmission shift lever

NV008-03 Squeak and Rattle Service Tips <--- DOES THIS APPLY TO THE XA, MY DOOR PANELS RATTLE LIKE A MOTHER WHEN I HAVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF BASS. I HAVE THE SSP SETTING ON NEUTRAL AND ZERO ON THE BASS....

NV008-03 Squeak and Rattle Service Tips <--- DOES THIS APPLY TO THE XA, MY DOOR PANELS RATTLE LIKE A MOTHER WHEN I HAVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF BASS. I HAVE THE SSP SETTING ON NEUTRAL AND ZERO ON THE BASS....

Nope, xB only.

Please check your caps lock key. It's not polite to SHOUT! :)

NV008-03 Squeak and Rattle Service Tips <--- DOES THIS APPLY TO THE XA, MY DOOR PANELS RATTLE LIKE A MOTHER WHEN I HAVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF BASS. I HAVE THE SSP SETTING ON NEUTRAL AND ZERO ON THE BASS....

Nope, xB only.

Please check your caps lock key. It's not polite to SHOUT! :)
sorry :P

linky no more worky

linky no more worky

looky further down the thready for the linky that worky!

i tried that link and still doesn't come up :shock: what a bummer

It's not just about having them adjust what's mixing to fix the AC issue. I took mine in after asking about the service bulletin and what was thought to be a half hour job *adjustment* is actually now a parts on order that will take a day to do when they get here. i'm assuming it's the one about not holding solid temperatures that requires some sort of assembly installation.
I'm sure it will be fine next week when it's all over but thank you for having the links up so that I can see what they see at the dealer.
My dealer and service dept were honest and straight up when I told them my problem and asked if there were any bulletins out.

yeah, my 05 XA also has rattles in the dash and driver door panel and I cannot find any TSBs...ANYONE KNOWS?

anyone have a 05TSB update?

Looks to have all of them...
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/Scion/

So can you grab the '04 TSB on rattles and use it on an '05 xB? Nasty passenger door rattle with or without the radio on. So far the only '05 TSB's I've seen are:

Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 2005 Scion xB L4-1.5L (1NZ-FE).
Service Bulletins
TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title
TC002R-03 DEC 04 Engine/Transmission Controls - ECM Memory Reset
AC009-04 DEC 04 A/C - Sensor Inspection Procedures
BO022-04 DEC 04 Restraint Systems - Seat Belt Extension Availability
EG049-04 NOV 04 Fuel System - Hard to Fuel/Nozzle Clicks OFF Early
BO018R-04 NOV 04 Interior - Rear Seat Back Hard to Fold Down
AX008-04 SEP 04 Audio System - 'Bazooka' Bass Tube Rattles/Squeaks
EG039-04 SEP 04 Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC P0325 Stored in PCM

funny there are no dates past Dec 04... grrr when are they going to update this with any new issues....

Do TSB's have to be fixed or brought back to Toyota before your 3 year 36,000 mile warranty expires?

vehicles must be taken back to Toyota/Scion dealer to be covered under warranty before 3/36 is expired

FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, DO NOT---I REPEAT DO NOT EMAIL me for any TSB info.....contact or take your vehicle to your local dealer who can take your VIN # and perform any that apply....not all TSB's apply to every vehicle......

how would i know if my car s affected with the TSB just by looking at the VIN? are the numbers in the VIN the one that indicated whethere or not my car is covered by it?

Edited first post to include link to tC TSBs.

not trying to bring back the dead

but again

DO NOT EMAIL/PM ME for ANY TSB info!!!

Hehe... you know how n00bs read that?

"EMAIL/PM ME for ANY TSB info!!!"

:rofl:

(seriously though, no one should be doing that)

i kno, i put it in bold for them to read
not sure if they actually do though, they only see what they want

i get like 10emails a day for those. i offered it at first to be nice and helpful, then i ran into some issues with some ppl who i gave them to, so i stopped.

anything on the tC supercharger making noise?

it does say: "Review with the customer that the supercharger will have a slight rattling and/or chirping sound, especially at idle, and that these are normal noises for this type of supercharger." (page 38 of s/c manual)

that might be the answer to my question - just seems odd that it wouldnt have done that right after the install.

does anyone have the list anywhere?

i remember seeing the "not-so-cold" a/c for the tC ..... it just doesnt seem like my a/c is getting that cold. Anybody else having this problem?

i remember seeing the "not-so-cold" a/c for the tC ..... it just doesnt seem like my a/c is getting that cold. Anybody else having this problem?+1

are you feeling the a/c not being "cold enough" all the time?? or in extremely hot weather??
have you tested the temp yet yourself, so you dont waste the dealers time and yours?

your saying test the temp comming out of the vent? ...if so ...what should it be?

yes, test the temp out of the vent
on a normal day (70ish) should be between 44-55 F
say its 95 out, your a/c is only going to be blowing 60-70 F, not freezing cold
it only compensates for about 30degree difference from the outside temp

yes, test the temp out of the vent
on a normal day (70ish) should be between 44-55 F
say its 95 out, your a/c is only going to be blowing 60-70 F, not freezing cold
it only compensates for about 30degree difference from the outside tempi'll try this. thanks.

try closing the pass. vent? I did that about a week ago and its been pretty good for me? I need to take a temp of it tho to make sure everything is working fine! But it blows more air to me so...?

Thankyou for the TSB, i was always wondering why my AC was never cold even though I recharged it once with those AC recharge kits. It was just not cold enough

anything on the tC supercharger making noise?

... whinings normal :rofl:

I found the TSB list and the PDF's of the bulletins. Some are not updated but is not too bad. Hard to find, click models, your models and then bulletins.

http://scionbeat.com/

I found this one.
http://www.scionbeat.com/Ownership/AC/AC007-04.pdf

does anyone have a link to ac002-04?

This is post to keep all service bulletins easy to find. when you have one, feel free to post the tsb number. If you see any false information here, please pm me or post and I will edit this post with the correct information.

cd player skipping:
TSB # AU004-03
PANT Bulletin 03-23

Rattles:
http://home.earthlink.net/~frazsj/SQUEAKANDRATTLESERVICETIPS.pdf

Cold Air Intake:
There is a problem with the cold air intake rubbing and messing up the filter. Take it to any dealer to have this fixed, although I don't know about any TSB's for this.

Thanks to CorollasBest For TSB Info

http://www.corollatoys.com/parts/ScionTSBs.htm

SCION TSB's
TSB Number Issue Date Applicable Vehicles Title
AC002-04 FEB 04 xA/xB A/C Not Cold Enough
AU004-03 AUG 03 xA/xB Single CD Player Pause
AX001-03 MAY 03 xB Initialization of Radio
AX006-03 DEC 03 xA Security Passive Arming Mode
BO020-03 NOV 03 xB Back Door Trim Loose
BR001-04 FEB 04 xA Zero Point Calibration
NV007-03 JUL 03 xA Squeak and Rattle Service Tips
NV008-03 JUL 03 xB Squeak and Rattle Service Tips

UPDATE LINK
http://www.corollatoys.com/TSB/Scion.htm

EDIT: tC TSB List:
http://home.cfl.rr.com/icdedppl/faq.html#b7
-10/14/05 - ack154 -

http://www.corollatoys.com/parts/ScionTSBs.htm appears to be a bad link...

link should have been removed years ago.. domain has changed.

Hey -
Thought someone would know what the hell this sound is. Starting today when I press in the clutch it makes a squealing noise and also when I depress it. With the window down, it sounds like its right under the tire. The clutch grabs pretty well and doesn't look like to be any slippage when engaging/disengaging. What could this be? Thanks.

squeaky clutch pedal. I have to grease mine like every 2 months because it never stops whining.

Oddly enough mine did do that for a few days and it went away - maybe someone at the dealer fixed it (when i brought it in for whatever else i was doing)

http://corollatoys.org/service/xA.html
http://corollatoys.org/service/xB.html
http://corollatoys.org/service/tC.html

Links will be changing in the next month.
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Hi, I am looking for the TSB on changing the camshaft gear for 05 xB which have the VSC, Trac Off and Check engine lights on. Apologize if this has been answered before, but could not find the TSB using the search option and hence the posting.

hi guys i need NV009-07 so badly im about to run my car off a cliff if i cant fix the stupid roof tick...

no its not the fins, no its not the velcro clips, i'm pretty sure it's in this TSB !!

Roof tick can be actually in the frame bending. If thats the case they have to get to a point where they are fed up with you and they send some "special" person from toyota in to look at it. What they really should do it tac weld some spots and I think that should help .......but im not positive of that answer.

ok guys i got the bulletin!!

but my question is, does the dealer have to do the service if my car is under waranty?

they're trying to get out of it because i removed the headliner myself ...

^jeze man - you shouldn't tell them anything about how you were trying to fix it. A lot of the people on here know the same amount or more then the dealer .... the last thing you want is the dealer trying to say you broke something when you clearly didn't. This is a known issue that has been on SOOOO many tC's. You should email them the post telling them this is a known problem.

ok guys i got the bulletin!!

but my question is, does the dealer have to do the service if my car is under waranty?

they're trying to get out of it because i removed the headliner myself ...

If you've removed the headliner and it still has the tick then you've eliminated one cause of the problem!

Dealers don't like to do warranty work because Toyota doesn't reimburse at the same rate that they would charge you for the same work.

Stick to your guns and tell the service manager (not the service writer) that your next step is to call Toyota to complain about their refusal to honor the warranty.

My dealer tried to get out of doing the CD, AC, and fuel tank TSBs until I told them what the consequence would be.

Hi all... first post; sorry to bring a quiet thread back to life. I took my '07 Scion tC (35k miles) to the dealership yesterday and showed them the NV009-07 TSB and the rattle I have in the back hatch. The service advisor test drove it, acknowledged the rattle, then told me that it would probably be worse after they 'fixed' it. He kept trying to convince me that I should not have them repair it and said that they had done several hundred of these TSB fixes and that more issues would probably arise when they fixed it. I was really shocked, but I kept insisting that I would like it fixed and he finally ordered the 4 pads and said they would try to fix it. Has anyone here had this issue fixed? I am now really considering not fixing it if more issues will come out of their fix. Should I still have the repair done? Thanks in advance...

Hi all... first post; sorry to bring a quiet thread back to life. I took my '07 Scion tC (35k miles) to the dealership yesterday and showed them the NV009-07 TSB and the rattle I have in the back hatch. The service advisor test drove it, acknowledged the rattle, then told me that it would probably be worse after they 'fixed' it. He kept trying to convince me that I should not have them repair it and said that they had done several hundred of these TSB fixes and that more issues would probably arise when they fixed it. I was really shocked, but I kept insisting that I would like it fixed and he finally ordered the 4 pads and said they would try to fix it. Has anyone here had this issue fixed? I am now really considering not fixing it if more issues will come out of their fix. Should I still have the repair done? Thanks in advance...

Read my post directly above your post!

Hey George... definitely did read your post and everyone else's (that's how I found the TSBs for my tC). Thanks for all of the great info. I am now paranoid they are going to mess things up more than they are now since the fix for the rear hatch tick is really invasive. I would like some feedback from people who have had this TSB addressed; were things better or do you have horror stories? Is the dealership responsible for fixing any issues that arise from this 'fix'? The guy really put the fear of God into me... it must have been like you said: they don't want to do it because they aren't getting paid the $$$ they would if I brought it in 1,000 miles later.

The dealership is responsible for making the vehicle as it should be without damaging anything else. That's why they have all those highly trained mechanics! If they are saying that they can't do as the factory recommends in the TSB perhaps you need to bring Toyota corporate into the situation.

Thanks, George. I dropped it off tonight so hopefully they will pull through. On a side note, my service rep said I could get a cabin air filter for $40 instead of addressing that TSB for free. I didn't push my luck, but I will be making a homemade cabin filter instead. He was not happy that I knew of all the TSBs for whatever reason and said this was the only one he would address.

Thanks, George. I dropped it off tonight so hopefully they will pull through. On a side note, my service rep said I could get a cabin air filter for $40 instead of addressing that TSB for free. I didn't push my luck, but I will be making a homemade cabin filter instead. He was not happy that I knew of all the TSBs for whatever reason and said this was the only one he would address.

What, he offered you a cabin air filter if you didn't get the problem described in the TSB fixed? I'm sure that Toyota USA would like to know about that!

The TSBs are only valuable if your car is showing those symptoms. They show that a common problem exists and the way to fix it. The dealer doesn't want you to know about them because they acknowledge that a problem may exist which forces them to do warranty work for which they get paid a lower rate. They'd rather you wait until after the warranty runs out and then have to have the work done at full rates.

For example, there was a "squeaking brake" TSB on the xB1, but I didn't have it taken care of because my brakes didn't squeak all that much. Later on (after the warranty expired) I found out that I had to buy extra parts to replace my brake pads. If I had had the TSB addressed they would have had to buy the parts. Live and learn.

I got my car back from the dealer. They did not address the TSB but instead put the 4 felt pads they ordered in the trim pieces of the hatch. The rattle is even worse now. I am going to give it a day or so, but I fear I will need to take it back. The dealer said they didn't address the TSB because they had only had 1 other tC have the issue and that couldn't be what my problem was. They said the Scion they repaired for the TSB has been a nightmare and has been worked on for over a year. On top of that, they blew my front tire out when test driving their 'fix' today. I wish I had a better option for service.

It sounds like they are incompetent. Toyota doesn't issue service bulletins for the fun of it. You might want to have a direct conversation with Toyota Corporate concerning this dealer's reluctance (or inability) to work to the TSB.

You might also want to post the name of the dealer so others won't make the same mistake.

Hello!
I had my 2006 xB into my mechanic for a check engine light, VSC light and traction off light. They found that the fuel filler tube joint is allowing water into the evaporative canister which triggered the codes and lights.
I found TSB EG0 47-06 which applies to the 2006 xA with the same issue.
Anyone out there know any more about this bulletin?