Just had a quick question about breaking in the car since I'm nearing the 1000 mile mark. I read the owner's manual and it says do oil changes at every 5000 miles while reading online forums have people saying it's better for the engine to do an early oil change at around 1000~1500 miles and then proceed doing regular oil changes. For those who have already exceeded 1000+ miles, I was wondering what you did for your tC. Also, something interesting to note was that while looking at the owner's manual, it said that if you use 0W-20 oil, you can change the engine oil every 10000 miles? I thought the norm was around 3000~5000 miles between every oil change.

Thanks,
Donald

just do your changes every 5000 its not very good for your car to change the oil to soon do it either on 5000 or a little before but never as early as a 1000-1500 thats way to soon in my opinion. i do toyota synthetic every 5000 and it works great in my car and every other toyota i have ever owned.

do 3k oil changes...thats what i did when i had my stock motor.

3k oil changes work great. After I blew my motor and took it apart it looked in perfect shape; minus the cracked pistons. There was no deposit buildup or heat marks anywhere and the bearings were in perfect condition, like not even light scratching.

just do your changes every 5000 its not very good for your car to change the oil to soon do it either on 5000 or a little before but never as early as a 1000-1500 thats way to soon in my opinion. i do toyota synthetic every 5000 and it works great in my car and every other toyota i have ever owned.


Now to say its not very good for an early oil change is false! Yes it may not need it but it in no way does anything bad or harmful. I do it early do to a new engine breaking in and I want to get synthetic going in there. Now is it necessary, No! But i like that extra piece of mind. Plus its not expensive to do. I have done this on all my vehicles and no problems. I drive the crap outta them after a few hundred miles as well! Gotta seat those rings and let the engine see the full RPM range.

I run synthetic in my rides (Pennzoil Platinum) and either Bosch or Purolator filters. I do an oil change every 5-6k miles. Maybe it could go more but like i said i drive my vehicles hard and i deal with salty, sandy, and hot conditions down here. Plus again that Peace of mind! Oh and not the crappy Toyota peace of mind! LOL

You guys doing 3k oil changes have bought into the marketing from places like Jiffy Lube. Changing your oil sooner than what the maintenance minder or owner's manual tells you is akin to throwing money down the drain. A lot of people like to get the factory oil out sooner (which I don't know whether or not yields any benefit) but all subsequent oil changes should be done at the recommended interval.

We are in the old mindset of non synthetic oil actually. It is deffinently not some conspiracy bud, calm down. Synthetic oil can go well past 5k miles, but we would rather be on the safe side and get all of the deposits out of there asap.

We are in the old mindset of non synthetic oil actually. It is deffinently not some conspiracy bud, calm down. Synthetic oil can go well past 5k miles, but we would rather be on the safe side and get all of the deposits out of there asap.
I'm perfectly calm; I'm just trying to save you some money. If you want to waste your money then go for it but it's completely unnecessary.

Once I get 500 miles on this oil I'm gonna change it and put some AMSOil in for about 1000 or so and change it again.

My dealer told me that the oil change is necessary only every 10k miles.
I think the manual (or whatever paper) says to bring the car in for maintenance every 5k, but oil change will only get done every 10k.
5k and 15k and etc will only be tire rotation and minor checks.
That's what the dealer told me, but I don't know if that's true.

Just change oil every 5K, including wheel rotations and you'll be fine, everything else is just personal preference or superstition.

k, gotta have faith in the camry engine i suppose! I only plan on doing bolt-ons for upgrades anyways. shouldn't cause too much strain on the engine

So-far I have spoken to several dealers and each one has told me something different. In your warranty book there is a section that has it listed. I would follow that or change it sooner.

Joe

Ok, guys. the 2011+ tC and 2010+ xD uses full synthetic. Scion recomends changing the oil every 10,000 miles, with regular service done at every 5,000 miles (Tire rotations, checking brakes, etc.)

I am currently at ~5,600 miles and I decided to switch to Amsoil, so I had them change it during the regular service. I wont have them change my oil again till 15,000 miles.

Ok, guys. the 2011+ tC and 2010+ xD uses full synthetic. Scion recomends changing the oil every 10,000 miles, with regular service done at every 5,000 miles (Tire rotations, checking brakes, etc.)

I am currently at ~5,600 miles and I decided to switch to Amsoil, so I had them change it during the regular service. I wont have them change my oil again till 15,000 miles.

How long before i submit the engine to some higher rpms. i've been pretty easy on it so far. What is the break in time on these motors?

Ok, guys. the 2011+ tC and 2010+ xD uses full synthetic. Scion recomends changing the oil every 10,000 miles, with regular service done at every 5,000 miles (Tire rotations, checking brakes, etc.)

I am currently at ~5,600 miles and I decided to switch to Amsoil, so I had them change it during the regular service. I wont have them change my oil again till 15,000 miles.

They put full synthetic in them from factory? Wow didnt know that. Also I think its unnecesary for the majority of people. But hey toyota does the oil changes for free for the first two years now with there care plan stuff. But they will be making money on those who dont do the change themselves I am sure as they will probably charge 60 bucks or more for full synthetic.

i do full sythentic every time and when i dont have time i drop it off and let them do it and its about $40 for a full synthetic oil change at the dealer.

How long before i submit the engine to some higher rpms. i've been pretty easy on it so far. What is the break in time on these motors?



Scion recommends 1000 miles. But over 500 and you'll be fine.

They put full synthetic in them from factory? Wow didnt know that. Also I think its unnecesary for the majority of people. But hey toyota does the oil changes for free for the first two years now with there care plan stuff. But they will be making money on those who dont do the change themselves I am sure as they will probably charge 60 bucks or more for full synthetic.

0w20 full synth, yup.

F*** what the dealer says. i do my oil changes every 3k miles....if i waited 5k miles to change my oil like the dealer told me i would most likely have anouther blown motor and im positive about that...i drive highway miles every day and people in SL will tell you that are motors consume oil or burn oil however you want to say it. sometimes my oil is even low before 3k miles. and my built motor runs perfectly fine ...and im using 10w30 castrol gtx btw. i rather spend a few dollarson oil and not thousands.

I have been using 5w30 Mobil full synthetic for as long as I can remember. Changed it every 5k, all of my cars engine's went over 100k with no oil burn off. The oil comes out very clean even at 5k miles. Never had any kind of engine problem.
My Tc is under the 2 year free scheduled maintenance deal, so I of course will take the free synthetic oil changes for two years....

Just go with what the owner's manual says. If your car is stock and you drive it like a sane person (many of us on here do not), 5K mile oil changes are very reasonable. If you floor it at every stoplight, you may want to change the oil a little more often. Remember, Toyota sells cars based on reliability, so they aren't going to tell you to do something that would potentially damage that reputation.

And for breaking in the engine, the only thing the manual says is to avoid setting the cruise for over an hour for the first 1K miles.

F*** what the dealer says. i do my oil changes every 3k miles....if i waited 5k miles to change my oil like the dealer told me i would most likely have anouther blown motor and im positive about that...i drive highway miles every day and people in SL will tell you that are motors consume oil or burn oil however you want to say it. sometimes my oil is even low before 3k miles. and my built motor runs perfectly fine ...and im using 10w30 castrol gtx btw. i rather spend a few dollarson oil and not thousands.


Just want to let you know my tC does not burn or consume oil! Sorry you had a blown engine but 5k for an oil change is not an extreme wait. Maybe if you go 5k miles every year I would change it every 6 months. I think these 10k changes are a lil much!

10K does sound a little extreme, but I have seen it done plenty of times before with no issues. With other cars that I used to have, I changed my oil every 3K. However, with my 07 tC, I went by the maintenance book and changed every 5K.

Engine oil has come a long way in the past few decades. The point is that with synthetic oils break down at slower rates and also have a reduced tendency to form deposits.

Just want to let you know my tC does not burn or consume oil! Sorry you had a blown engine but 5k for an oil change is not an extreme wait. Maybe if you go 5k miles every year I would change it every 6 months. I think these 10k changes are a lil much!


well lucky you...but my motor does consume oil, burns oil, or just dissapears somehow...or maybe cuz i drive 60 miles at 80 mph every day? idk! but i know im not the only with that issue...all i know is it runs perfect regardless. but i learned my lesson the hard way by following the stupid scion manual... and all of the sudden my motor was knocking cuz it had no oil and i had to spends thousands cuz they wouldnt warranty my car even tho i only had like 15k miles on the car ....so ill stick to my 3k oil changes.

well lucky you...but my motor does consume oil, burns oil, or just dissapears somehow...or maybe cuz i drive 60 miles at 80 mph every day? idk! but i know im not the only with that issue...all i know is it runs perfect regardless. but i learned my lesson the hard way by following the stupid scion manual... and all of the sudden my motor was knocking cuz it had no oil and i had to spends thousands cuz they wouldnt warranty my car even tho i only had like 15k miles on the car ....so ill stick to my 3k oil changes.
You've got serious engine issues if you're consuming/leaking that much oil. For everyone with a stock tC the Scion maintenance guidelines are what should be used.

well lucky you...but my motor does consume oil, burns oil, or just dissapears somehow...or maybe cuz i drive 60 miles at 80 mph every day? idk! but i know im not the only with that issue...all i know is it runs perfect regardless. but i learned my lesson the hard way by following the stupid scion manual... and all of the sudden my motor was knocking cuz it had no oil and i had to spends thousands cuz they wouldnt warranty my car even tho i only had like 15k miles on the car ....so ill stick to my 3k oil changes.

As long as you check your oil regularly and keep it topped up you are fine, my Camry that had 281,000km on it didn't burn any oil. Car is different but I would look for leaks. Also when you cold start is there blue smoke?

You've got serious engine issues if you're consuming/leaking that much oil. For everyone with a stock tC the Scion maintenance guidelines are what should be used.


i dont have serious issues or any issues at all with the motor....i drive my car hard and its not leaking or anything or no smoke..the motor runs perfect..tcpete also has the same issue and his motor runs like a beast!

p.s its not a stock tc...check the build thread lol

Is their a link on HOW to change the earl in the tc2? Please wisk me to the site. Not to familiar with this style of filter.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199103
You not using the free 20k service? I have been very happy with Scion on this. They have changed the filter and oil with Mobil 0W-20 syn. No problems yet. At 14800 miles right now and the oil on the dipstick looks fresh and full btw.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199103
You not using the free 20k service? I have been very happy with Scion on this. They have changed the filter and oil with Mobil 0W-20 syn. No problems yet. At 4800 miles right now and the oil on the dipstick looks fresh and full btw.

Been their twice and tired of them telling me to bring it back when it gets dirty. 7500 alteady. Dont trust the dealerships and their lof t-ten students. I bought the cheesy sst today offered by the parts department. Going to let them do it once bc was rumured the collar is initally on kinda tight, and their students have access to the snap on version of the sst.

Gotcha', guess I am lucky. They changed mine every 5k no question.

For the 1st oil change...I would definitely do it early. It won't harm the engine and in fact will help remove any wear particle forming in the break in process and entering the oil. Now I can imagine that those particles, as minimal as they can be aren't good to have in your oil for this important period of your engines life. Best to do the oil change early, maybe at 1 or 2k. OK lets say I am wrong....so you just wasted $29.99 having your oil changed and that's all as opposed to possibly helping your engine break in better on cleaner oil. Any help with my theory?

BTW from what I've hear, the 3k oil change does not apply anymore since engine oil temperatures run lower in modern engines. In fact Ford is switching to 10k intervals now and I think Honda is @ 7500. So yeah your fine with 5k, its whats Toyota's engineers recommend anyway.

For the 1st oil change...I would definitely do it early. It won't harm the engine and in fact will help remove any wear particle forming in the break in process and entering the oil. Now I can imagine that those particles, as minimal as they can be aren't good to have in your oil for this important period of your engines life. Best to do the oil change early, maybe at 1 or 2k. OK lets say I am wrong....so you just wasted $29.99 having your oil changed and that's all as opposed to possibly helping your engine break in better on cleaner oil. Any help with my theory?

BTW from what I've hear, the 3k oil change does not apply anymore since engine oil temperatures run lower in modern engines. In fact Ford is switching to 10k intervals now and I think Honda is @ 7500. So yeah your fine with 5k, its whats Toyota's engineers recommend anyway. 29.95? I wish. 0-20 oil gets expensive!

For the 1st oil change...I would definitely do it early. It won't harm the engine and in fact will help remove any wear particle forming in the break in process and entering the oil. Now I can imagine that those particles, as minimal as they can be aren't good to have in your oil for this important period of your engines life. Best to do the oil change early, maybe at 1 or 2k. OK lets say I am wrong....so you just wasted $29.99 having your oil changed and that's all as opposed to possibly helping your engine break in better on cleaner oil. Any help with my theory?

BTW from what I've hear, the 3k oil change does not apply anymore since engine oil temperatures run lower in modern engines. In fact Ford is switching to 10k intervals now and I think Honda is @ 7500. So yeah your fine with 5k, its whats Toyota's engineers recommend anyway. 29.99? I wish. 0-20 oil gets expensive!

This is all about money. Engine temps have nothing to do with it. Change ur oil every 5000 miles. If you read about oil it doesn't even break down and become 100% useful till around 3-4k. If anything change ur oil filter ever 2000 miles.
And when breaking in the motor. Beat the ____ out of it. For instance take the motor up to top of third and let off. Long story short this will ensure a proper ring seal and the vaccum will suck the particles down into your oil.. babying ur motor is ridiculous. You lose; power among other things.

And everyone and their synthetic . Its only partially synthetic. Real synthetic oil is $$$$$$$$$$. And royal purple is garbage.

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Is the break-in additive still effective at 5,000 miles even? I think by 5,000 your motor is ready for whatever oil you put in it.
I was under the impression that the first oil change is the most important due to build up and deposits and shavings from the break-in period. I don't wish to wait for 10,000 miles for an oil change. Call it piece of mind or whatever, but If I were to change my oil now (5,000miles) would I need to add some special Break-In Additive?

This is all about money. Engine temps have nothing to do with it. Change ur oil every 5000 miles. If you read about oil it doesn't even break down and become 100% useful till around 3-4k. If anything change ur oil filter ever 2000 miles.
And when breaking in the motor. Beat the ____ out of it. For instance take the motor up to top of third and let off. Long story short this will ensure a proper ring seal and the vaccum will suck the particles down into your oil.. babying ur motor is ridiculous. You lose; power among other things.

And everyone and their synthetic . Its only partially synthetic. Real synthetic oil is $$$$$$$$$$. And royal purple is garbage.


I hope this is one of those sarcasm posts, its hard to tell because there are some real _______s on this forum...

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read. I been getting alot of great information from ScionLife since 2005 and posts like this just confuse rookies and make us look bad on other forums.

Is the break-in additive still effective at 5,000 miles even? I think by 5,000 your motor is ready for whatever oil you put in it.
If I were to change my oil now (5,000miles) would I need to add some special Break-In Additive?

I answered my own question. No way am I going to drive the way I do on 10,000 miles with the same oil. I am planning my oil change this weekend with Mobile One Full Synth at around 5,100 miles with no additional additive. I just got my 5,000 Mile checkup.
I guess I will use 0W20 like the manual says.
I was used to using 5W30 on my Old Scion, but I guess technology and engineering changed to allow a light oil.
With the Texas temperatures in the summer should I still use 0W20? I dont care about fuel economy.

I change my oil every 3-4k whats a few bucks to keep my investment in top shape, i don't know about what others feel about this but after 3-4k my oil is black I rather change it for peace of mind. Pennzoil platinum 0w20