Has any one seen this... creative compacts has just started caring it and its cheaper than the dc sports header and appears to preform better... at meganracing.com (http://www.meganracing.com/products/product_detail.asp?prodid=364)

It dynoed stock power at
http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/TC%20header%20stock%20dyno.jpg

After install it dynoed at
http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/TC%20header%20dyno.jpg[/url]

does it throw the CEL?

It says it doesn't on the website

looks pretty nice too
http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/TC%20header%20x500.jpg

"Header includes a High flow PreCat so the car does not throw a Check Engine Light (CEL)". This is right off of creativecompacts website. Hmm that looks like a pretty nice peice, the stanless would look nice with my intake.

Yeah I bet it looks good once it's gone through a few heat cycles too!!! I guess when it comes time to do emissions (3 years) I'll have to reinstall the stock manifold (or take it to a "special" emissions place!), but it would be nice to not have to, like with this design header

Oh yeah! It looks like it also has mounts for the factory manifold braces, which the DC doesn't have

someone get this quick and give us a review lol

i was going to put a megan muffler on my tc and every one told me not to that they were pos parts but i guess this header looks good maybe ill pick it up once i get my intake

I know someone who worked for Megan. And I talked to several people who thought the cat was a bad idea. I talked to another guy who is still at Megan, and basically, I have come to the conclusion that this header is at best questionable. At least until one of us actually tries it out with proof howing otherwise. I mught be able to pick it up the cheapest, so I am considering giving it a try to see if it is worth anything. Retail is $295.00. The DC might be better though, and to be honest, most people dont like DC Headers. Our only other choice right now is Alpha Werks, and from what I hear, they are in the same boat as Megan. Cheap stuff. I guess we will see soon enough. Hopefully I am wrong and all of these parts kick ___!

Yea I really really hope this is a good quality part b/c I am a little dissapointed with the dc header.

Why don't you like it?

I think I may swap my DC header for this as well at some point.

I wonder how much the High flow PreCat on this header will help with the sound of the exhaust. I've read nothing but bad things about the DC header and the sound of the exhaust, maybe this header would be better sound wise. What do you guys think.

i'm picking mine up this weekend and installing it. i'll let ya guys know how i like it. :D

I think I may swap my DC header for this as well at some point.

Two reasons that aren't really performance just small things that it throws the CEL and that its not chromed.

05 please do let us know how it sounds....

very anxious to hear a review from an actual SL member.

post your review as soon as its on.

the dyno is a little hard to read, did it gain 7whp and 8 torque?

i'm very interesting on how it sounds & fits.

I might actualy go with this if I hear good feed back. Now to just figure out which cat back I'm going to pick.

so, is it emissions illegal? if yes, are most headers?

I purchased a Megan Racing turbo manifold a month or so ago, and the quality looks really nice. I've heard of other brands cracking (SSAutochrome, etc..) but nothing about MR. They do offer a warranty against any defects so I figured it would be safe to buy it. I've met a few people who also run this manifold and haven't had any problems at all. Here is a pic of it.. I'd assume the header will be the same quality, but won't experience the high temps the turbo manifold will.

http://members.aol.com/ruskerxtc/sr_manifold.jpg

:bow:

i'm picking mine up this weekend and installing it. i'll let ya guys know how i like it. :D




well............ :nails:

A lot of the headers out are not CARB legal such as the DC-Sports one. But I believe this one may be emissions legal.

Just hang on to your OEM header incase you need to have the car tested.

it is 7hp and 8 tq of gain with this header? and how much is it?

We have the headers on our site....$246.05

Hey guys, I just got the headers installed today and I love it so far...except the CEL finally came on about after 20 miles!!! It is also the new Megan Racing header where the sensor is on the side of the header instead of in the front. Power gains are noticable and best of all, it didn't make my TRD exhaust sound like a bumble bee in a coffee can. In fact it didn't change the sound of my exhaust that much!!! I also have the weapon-r intake and so far I love it....Only if I can get this damn CEL to turn off. I'll disconnect the battery then let the car idle for 10 min. I'll let you guys know if the CEL goes away. The DC Sports header makes the exhaust really load because there is not Cat. I'm guessing.

Hey guys, I just got the headers installed today and I love it so far...except the CEL finally came on about after 20 miles!!! It is also the new Megan Racing header where the sensor is on the side of the header instead of in the front. Power gains are noticable and best of all, it didn't make my TRD exhaust sound like a bumble bee in a coffee can. In fact it didn't change the sound of my exhaust that much!!! I also have the weapon-r intake and so far I love it....Only if I can get this damn CEL to turn off. I'll disconnect the battery then let the car idle for 10 min. I'll let you guys know if the CEL goes away. The DC Sports header makes the exhaust really load because there is not Cat. I'm guessing.
Hey man I'm glad the header sounds good and gives gains, but that CEL sucks. Hopefully you have better luck after you reset the ECU. I'm also running the WR SW intake and TRD exhuast and I really want this header, but not a CEL. Please let us know if you get the CEL to go away. Good luck.. :pray:

So I reset the ecu, let the car idle for about 15 min, drove the car easy for about 5 miles then drove it harder for another 5 miles. So far no CEL :pray: I 'll let you all know tommorow if it comes back. The headers seem to make the car pull harder as they break in...might just be my imagination though. The headers changed colors though...

So I reset the ecu, let the car idle for about 15 min, drove the car easy for about 5 miles then drove it harder for another 5 miles. So far no CEL :pray: I 'll let you all know tommorow if it comes back. The headers seem to make the car pull harder as they break in...might just be my imagination though. The headers changed colors though...Good to hear the CEL didn't come back yet. Thanks for keeping us informed and hopefully the CEL doesn't come back. If you could get some pics of the header that would be awesome. Have a good one.

glad to hear CEL is off.
was hard to install the MR header? Does the TRD exhaust add Hp or it is just for sound and show?

hope it does not come back
thanks for all the feedback on the header so far

if the cell doesnt come back on.............looks like im buying the megan racing header.

I ordered mine today. One reason I didnt want the DC header other then the CEL was the fact that everyone who has it says it ruins their exhaust sounds. I am glad to hear you didnt experience this.

Question...is it simple to install? Looks like I will be doing this one alone.

anyone know the numbers for the dc sports header off the top of there head? i'm too lazy to look for it.

lol no

Yeah!! Looks like I'll order the Megan Racing instead of the Nexus. Thanks FlintMica :bow:
for the input and the pricing seems alot more decent than $600 dollars for a nexus header.

Guys just wait till more r&d is done by some of the members that got this header before you go out and buy it. IT is not supposed to throw a cel and its already doing it.

because he didnt reset the ecu...he should have disconnected the battery. any mod will do that.

Guys just wait till more r&d is done by some of the members that got this header before you go out and buy it. IT is not supposed to throw a cel and its already doing it.

Well on the website it says it's a "Pre-Cat" not a real catalytic converter, and you can always just do the spark plug anti fouler trick to get rid of the CEL!!

About the lack of difference in exhaust tone: Doesn't that tell you it's not flowing that much better than stock????? :no: :no:

mine finally arrived today! :D took longer than i expected. anyways, i'll will be installing it tommorow. i hope all goes well.

i want i want!

do you sacrifice low end power for high end power after you install a header?

mine finally arrived today! :D took longer than i expected. anyways, i'll will be installing it tommorow. i hope all goes well.

let us know if you get a CEL

Alright guyz and galz...The damn CEL came back on after 15.2 miles!!! I think I'll do that "trick" to default the sensor. The power is noticable like I said and there are dyno sheets for you dyno freaks about hp and torque gains. Now that the headers are breaking in I do notice a change in the TRD Exahust tone. It's doesn't sound horrible and definatley not as BAD as the DC Sport headers. You can definatley tell there is more exhause flow. Everyone else who are getting these headers, please let the rest of us know how it sounds with your exhaust set-up.

Installation was a breeze....about 15 min.

We have the headers on our site....$246.05

that's a really nice deal. is it $246 shipped?

I realy think this is going to be my next mod, but I'll wait a bit to see how every thing goes with others.

Get the dc, more power gains!

the dc header only get's 2whp more and the same ammount of torque.

i'd rather have this header with no CEL.

lol have you read the whole thread? People ARE getting the CEL with this header! It's a Pre-Cat, not a fully fledged catalytic converter! I'll enjoy my DC Sports Header, thankyou very much!

do you have a CEL with the dc headers? and does it come with a test pipe?
like in the pic here?
http://www.ptuning.com/html/Item-Desc.cfm?PartNo=PTSHC4402&MakeCode=scion&ModelCode=tC&ModelYear=2005%20All&ModelDesc=tC[/img]

Nah it's nothing like that one, shorter, but anyways, I don't have the CEL because I applied the spark plug anti fouler technique... you can find lots about this method if you search. I believe they have a picture of the actual header on www.mcgeorgeparts.com ....that's where I bought my header from!

I'll enjoy my DC Sports Header, thankyou very much!

I hope you enjoy it so much when it starts rusting in a few months:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52130

this header is also cheaper then the DC header.

I'll enjoy my DC Sports Header, thankyou very much!

I hope you enjoy it so much when it starts rusting in a few months:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52130

this header is also cheaper then the DC header.

As you might have noticed, I was the second to post on that topic...and I doubt mine will start rusting unless the ceramic coating was rubbed off when I installed it

AWARE....don't buy anything from TC Tunerz. They never write back or call me!!! Especially about the CEL with the Megan Racing headers.

Hey English, I heard the dc sport headers make the exhaust system sound like crap though...Granted my Megan Racing Headers changed the sound of my exhaust a little, it doesn't sound as bad as the DC Sports.

Hey English, I heard the dc sport headers make the exhaust system sound like crap though...Granted my Megan Racing Headers changed the sound of my exhaust a little, it doesn't sound as bad as the DC Sports.

Since I have the stock exhaust, I wouldn't say it sounds like crap, just a little bit strange, like there's alot of air flowing out, but quiet....I guess you'd have to hear it in person, but I like the fact that there's alot more power, about the cel, you're going to get that with anything that doesn't clean the air as good as the stock cat does, so just do the spark plug anti fouler trick!!!!!

I was going to do the spark plug antifouler trick this weekend.

Hey flintmica, give us a pic of the header installed!!

because he didnt reset the ecu...he should have disconnected the battery. any mod will do that.

Keep up with whats going on he got the cel again.

because he didnt reset the ecu...he should have disconnected the battery. any mod will do that.

Keep up with whats going on he got the cel again.

ya i saw that

So anyone have a Megan header and a 2.5 inch headerback exhaust with a muffler? How does it sound? Any sound clips. I am considering this!

I'll take some pics. this weekend of the headers.

When i get them on i will have everything but the s-pipe which i cant get till it comes out...soo......

AWARE....don't buy anything from TC Tunerz. They never write back or call me!!! Especially about the CEL with the Megan Racing headers.

Have you read anythng on our site?

AWARE....don't buy anything from TC Tunerz. They never write back or call me!!! Especially about the CEL with the Megan Racing headers.

Have you read anythng on our site?

"Matches to the OE exhaust system without fabrication. Limited lifetime warranty"

Don't see any info on the CEL or how to fix it..... maybe you can post a link?

http://www.tctunerz.com/articles/performance/scion-tc-header-system-part-5.html
http://www.tctunerz.com/articles/performance/scion-tc-header-system-part-4.html
http://www.tctunerz.com/articles/performance/scion-tc-header-system-part-3.html
http://www.tctunerz.com/articles/performance/scion-tc-header-system-part-2.html
http://www.tctunerz.com/articles/performance/scion-tc-header-system-part-1.html

We've been working with Megan Racing on this Header system since October of 2004, all R&D was performed by tCtunerZ.com

AWARE....don't buy anything from TC Tunerz. They never write back or call me!!! Especially about the CEL with the Megan Racing headers.

We know who you are now, as a matter of fact a call was returned and a voicemail left last week.

When i get them on i will have everything but the s-pipe which i cant get till it comes out...soo......

We are 1-2 weeks away from having them out of production.

tcTunerz,
Yes I finally recieved your message and whenever I call your company, nobody ever picks up (yes I understand that you guyz are probably busy with a new company) but I never recieved a call back until now. I left many messages with you guyz before the issue about the CEL w/ the headers and I never got one freaken call back. I'll give you guyz a call again on Monday and hopefully I'll get to talk with somebody for the very first time. Thank you though for returning my call...[/quote]

tcTunerz,
Did you guyz notice a decrease in power at lower rpm's??? I do notice an increase at higher rpm's!!!

i installed the megan racing header yesterday, got it from http://www.racingsolution.com. i also have a k&n typhoon intake (which i installed a couple weeks ago). the power gain is obvious to me, both when i went from stock to k&n and now with the added header. drag-race starts are strong and acceleration in the midrange is exceptional. i can easily chirp the tires now going from second to third, and i've also noticed a significant drop in engine rpm while cruising on the freeway. my previous unscientific "test" of rpm was on the 91 around knott's berry farm (which is mostly flat). i wound run an exact 3,000 rpm at 60mph. now, i'm running closer to 2,500 rpm at the same steady 60. (yah, like i ever drive a steady 60! lol)

this is very cool. it means my fuel economy is possible to increase. it also means the exhaust tone will stay low (especially with an aftermarket exhaust, which is next on my project list). at the same time, put yor foot in it and the tC growls and sounds mean. i love it! i love it! i love it! i'm finally removing the "camry" from the tC!

bad news: yes, the header threw a CEL. i am pretty sure i did everything right (i didn't have instructions, and this is the first header i ever installed). i disconnected the battery for the entire install process and after installation was done i did let the car idle for over 20 minutes without revving or driving. CEL came after about 40 miles of driving.

not including the 45 minutes i was blonde and tried to tighten the lower mounting bolts on the OEM header, the total install time for a newbie -- with a garage full of tools -- was about 3 hours. someone experienced will probably only need an hour, though. imo, the installation is straightforward and yet there really need to be tC-specific instructions. a couple of bolts were very akward to reach, and i had no torque specs for installing the header. so i winged it, using the max torque spec i knew from the 1.8L miata (33 ft-lbs). however, 2 of the 5 bolts needing proper torquing couldn't be reached with the torque wrench, so they are "about the same" based on my estimate.

aside from the CEL, which is bothersome since everywhere i'm seeing people say "yes, this header doesn't throw a CEL" -- and the risk of CARB failure -- this is an excellent header. is it better than DC or alpha? dunno, i have never experienced either of those. my guess is that all of these first-gen tC headers are about the same. someone posted the DC makes 2hp more... 2hp? puh-leaze, that can easily be attributed to variations in test cars, test conditions, etc. 2hp isn't even something you will notice in a back-to-back test drive!

ok, enough of a rant... time to investigate this aperk-plug anti-fouler trick for the CEL... and i'd be very interested to hear more about why this header is throwing a CEL when it's not supposed to. did i do something wrong, maybe???[/url]

tcTunerz,
Did you guyz notice a decrease in power at lower rpm's??? I do notice an increase at higher rpm's!!!

Yes we did, but a "fix" we have solved that problem.

tcTunerz,
Yes I finally recieved your message and whenever I call your company, nobody ever picks up (yes I understand that you guyz are probably busy with a new company) but I never recieved a call back until now. I left many messages with you guyz before the issue about the CEL w/ the headers and I never got one freaken call back. I'll give you guyz a call again on Monday and hopefully I'll get to talk with somebody for the very first time. Thank you though for returning my call...[/quote]

Cyril if youd like call today, we are open a few more hours.

i installed the megan racing header yesterday, got it from http://www.racingsolution.com. i also have a k&n typhoon intake (which i installed a couple weeks ago). the power gain is obvious to me, both when i went from stock to k&n and now with the added header. drag-race starts are strong and acceleration in the midrange is exceptional. i can easily chirp the tires now going from second to third, and i've also noticed a significant drop in engine rpm while cruising on the freeway. my previous unscientific "test" of rpm was on the 91 around knott's berry farm (which is mostly flat). i wound run an exact 3,000 rpm at 60mph. now, i'm running closer to 2,500 rpm at the same steady 60. (yah, like i ever drive a steady 60! lol)

this is very cool. it means my fuel economy is possible to increase. it also means the exhaust tone will stay low (especially with an aftermarket exhaust, which is next on my project list). at the same time, put yor foot in it and the tC growls and sounds mean. i love it! i love it! i love it! i'm finally removing the "camry" from the tC!

bad news: yes, the header threw a CEL. i am pretty sure i did everything right (i didn't have instructions, and this is the first header i ever installed). i disconnected the battery for the entire install process and after installation was done i did let the car idle for over 20 minutes without revving or driving. CEL came after about 40 miles of driving.

not including the 45 minutes i was blonde and tried to tighten the lower mounting bolts on the OEM header, the total install time for a newbie -- with a garage full of tools -- was about 3 hours. someone experienced will probably only need an hour, though. imo, the installation is straightforward and yet there really need to be tC-specific instructions. a couple of bolts were very akward to reach, and i had no torque specs for installing the header. so i winged it, using the max torque spec i knew from the 1.8L miata (33 ft-lbs). however, 2 of the 5 bolts needing proper torquing couldn't be reached with the torque wrench, so they are "about the same" based on my estimate.

aside from the CEL, which is bothersome since everywhere i'm seeing people say "yes, this header doesn't throw a CEL" -- and the risk of CARB failure -- this is an excellent header. is it better than DC or alpha? dunno, i have never experienced either of those. my guess is that all of these first-gen tC headers are about the same. someone posted the DC makes 2hp more... 2hp? puh-leaze, that can easily be attributed to variations in test cars, test conditions, etc. 2hp isn't even something you will notice in a back-to-back test drive!

ok, enough of a rant... time to investigate this aperk-plug anti-fouler trick for the CEL... and i'd be very interested to hear more about why this header is throwing a CEL when it's not supposed to. did i do something wrong, maybe???[/url]

That’s what we were worried about, the test headers we had didn’t throw a CEL, we were hoping the production pieces wouldn’t throw one. So far we’ve heard of two sets throwing CEL…

Any header purchased from us that throws a CEL we will send out a “fix”, every order will include this fix one we have it into production. We are currently testing it on the DC and Megan header and results look VERY good. Pricing for our version of the Megan racing header and DC header will be priced higher than all other retailers, but we will have a “real” solution to the CEL.

We will announce fix at the Daytona Scion Exposed event with dyno results!

i installed the megan racing header yesterday, got it from http://www.racingsolution.com. i also have a k&n typhoon intake (which i installed a couple weeks ago). the power gain is obvious to me, both when i went from stock to k&n and now with the added header. drag-race starts are strong and acceleration in the midrange is exceptional. i can easily chirp the tires now going from second to third, and i've also noticed a significant drop in engine rpm while cruising on the freeway. my previous unscientific "test" of rpm was on the 91 around knott's berry farm (which is mostly flat). i wound run an exact 3,000 rpm at 60mph. now, i'm running closer to 2,500 rpm at the same steady 60. (yah, like i ever drive a steady 60! lol)

this is very cool. it means my fuel economy is possible to increase. it also means the exhaust tone will stay low (especially with an aftermarket exhaust, which is next on my project list). at the same time, put yor foot in it and the tC growls and sounds mean. i love it! i love it! i love it! i'm finally removing the "camry" from the tC!

bad news: yes, the header threw a CEL. i am pretty sure i did everything right (i didn't have instructions, and this is the first header i ever installed). i disconnected the battery for the entire install process and after installation was done i did let the car idle for over 20 minutes without revving or driving. CEL came after about 40 miles of driving.

not including the 45 minutes i was blonde and tried to tighten the lower mounting bolts on the OEM header, the total install time for a newbie -- with a garage full of tools -- was about 3 hours. someone experienced will probably only need an hour, though. imo, the installation is straightforward and yet there really need to be tC-specific instructions. a couple of bolts were very akward to reach, and i had no torque specs for installing the header. so i winged it, using the max torque spec i knew from the 1.8L miata (33 ft-lbs). however, 2 of the 5 bolts needing proper torquing couldn't be reached with the torque wrench, so they are "about the same" based on my estimate.

aside from the CEL, which is bothersome since everywhere i'm seeing people say "yes, this header doesn't throw a CEL" -- and the risk of CARB failure -- this is an excellent header. is it better than DC or alpha? dunno, i have never experienced either of those. my guess is that all of these first-gen tC headers are about the same. someone posted the DC makes 2hp more... 2hp? puh-leaze, that can easily be attributed to variations in test cars, test conditions, etc. 2hp isn't even something you will notice in a back-to-back test drive!

ok, enough of a rant... time to investigate this aperk-plug anti-fouler trick for the CEL... and i'd be very interested to hear more about why this header is throwing a CEL when it's not supposed to. did i do something wrong, maybe???[/url]

Hey Zack.. glad you like the header! Thanks again for choosing Racing Solution.

Any header purchased from us that throws a CEL we will send out a “fix”, every order will include this fix one we have it into production. We are currently testing it on the DC and Megan header and results look VERY good. Pricing for our version of the Megan racing header and DC header will be priced higher than all other retailers, but we will have a “real” solution to the CEL.

wouldn't this be the responsibility of megan racing? it's THEIR name on the header, after all. if there is a flaw in the design and/or production, everyone should get the "fix" regardless of which retailer sold the header.

Any header purchased from us that throws a CEL we will send out a “fix”, every order will include this fix one we have it into production. We are currently testing it on the DC and Megan header and results look VERY good. Pricing for our version of the Megan racing header and DC header will be priced higher than all other retailers, but we will have a “real” solution to the CEL.

wouldn't this be the responsibility of megan racing? it's THEIR name on the header, after all. if there is a flaw in the design and/or production, everyone should get the "fix" regardless of which retailer sold the header.

No, Megan Racing has nothing to do with our fix as it’s a fix for the DC Header CEL as well. We are just offering an incentive for customers that purchase the header from the #1 Scion tC Aftermarket Tuning resource.

so when will this fix be finished. if i purchase the header from u guys would i receive the header with the fix on it or how will it work when purchasing the megan racing header?

ok, then Megan Racing needs to also figure out why their header throws a CEL and fix it. it isn't acceptable to sell a product like this and have it throw a CEL. that shows poor R&D (unless, of course, the header is sold saying it will cause the check engine light). later this week i'll do the hokey spark plug anti-fouler mod and see if that works....

does this header include any type of brackets? or can you use the stock brackets?

without brackets, this header will crack in a few years.

Any header purchased from us that throws a CEL we will send out a “fix”, every order will include this fix one we have it into production. We are currently testing it on the DC and Megan header and results look VERY good. Pricing for our version of the Megan racing header and DC header will be priced higher than all other retailers, but we will have a “real” solution to the CEL.

wouldn't this be the responsibility of megan racing? it's THEIR name on the header, after all. if there is a flaw in the design and/or production, everyone should get the "fix" regardless of which retailer sold the header.

No, Megan Racing has nothing to do with our fix as it’s a fix for the DC Header CEL as well. We are just offering an incentive for customers that purchase the header from the #1 Scion tC Aftermarket Tuning resource.



maybe its just me but an incentive to me would be getting the fix for free........unless it cost over $50 for you to produce..........maybe its just me.

the #1 Scion tC Aftermarket Tuning resource.

daaaamnn... someone is a little full of themselves. haha. yer not that great of a company ... trust me. :rofl:

the #1 Scion tC Aftermarket Tuning resource.

daaaamnn... someone is a little full of themselves. haha. yer not that great of a company ... trust me. :rofl:

Not full of anything, everyones has their opinon...

Any header purchased from us that throws a CEL we will send out a “fix”, every order will include this fix one we have it into production. We are currently testing it on the DC and Megan header and results look VERY good. Pricing for our version of the Megan racing header and DC header will be priced higher than all other retailers, but we will have a “real” solution to the CEL.

wouldn't this be the responsibility of megan racing? it's THEIR name on the header, after all. if there is a flaw in the design and/or production, everyone should get the "fix" regardless of which retailer sold the header.

No, Megan Racing has nothing to do with our fix as it’s a fix for the DC Header CEL as well. We are just offering an incentive for customers that purchase the header from the #1 Scion tC Aftermarket Tuning resource.



maybe its just me but an incentive to me would be getting the fix for free........unless it cost over $50 for you to produce..........maybe its just me.

We never said there was a fee for the fix....

ok, then Megan Racing needs to also figure out why their header throws a CEL and fix it. it isn't acceptable to sell a product like this and have it throw a CEL. that shows poor R&D (unless, of course, the header is sold saying it will cause the check engine light). later this week i'll do the hokey spark plug anti-fouler mod and see if that works....

You should say the same about DC Sports, Megan Racing isnt the only one.

tCtuerZ wrote:
You should say the same about DC Sports, Megan Racing isnt the only one.

Yes, you're right. In my case, I only care about Megan. Plus, the DC Sports header makes no claims of being street/smog legal. It has no precat and is clearly intended to be a race/off-road header. (and everyone who owns one is only using it off-road, of course! *wink* :P )

At this time till our company does our own testing, we have removed the information that the header isn't throwing a CEL. However our price will remain the same price until it is confirmed. $259 Shipped.

I'm sure the "fix" that they're providing is a spark plug anti-fouler for the O2 sensor to screw into.

Shouldn't the Megan Racing header work without any kind of fix? Has anybody from Megan Racing made a statement about this?

"Pricing for our version of the Megan racing header and DC header will be priced higher than all other retailers, but we will have a “real” solution to the CEL."



"We never said there was a fee for the fix.... "


:rofl:

could be an o2 sim

I know I did say in the past to not buy anything from TcTunerz. Well, the gentleman who spoke with me on the phone Sunday afternoon was very helpful. I'm starting to believe that they are a good company...

hell, i like it im buying it i dont care if it throws a little light ill just ripe the damn thing out thats all.

even though it throws a CEL, damn it is an awesome header. i love mine. the combo of the megan racing header and k&n intake has given my tC some serious go-power. here's my engine bay:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/808000-808999/808333_24_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/808000-808999/808333_23_full.jpg

does this header include any type of brackets? or can you use the stock brackets?

without brackets, this header will crack in a few years.

Yes we did, but a "fix" we have solved that problem.

if I order this header is it going to come with the fix? also, what actually is the fix? what will need to be done?

even though it throws a CEL, damn it is an awesome header. i love mine. the combo of the megan racing header and k&n intake has given my tC some serious go-power. here's my engine bay:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/808000-808999/808333_24_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/808000-808999/808333_23_full.jpg

Your engine bay looks hot I love the carbon fiber engine cover, also good choice bcp same as my tc , I think you should change your hoses it would be a nice touch. Does your header throw a cel?

Any header purchased from us that throws a CEL we will send out a “fix”, every order will include this fix one we have it into production. We are currently testing it on the DC and Megan header and results look VERY good. Pricing for our version of the Megan racing header and DC header will be priced higher than all other retailers, but we will have a “real” solution to the CEL.

We will announce fix at the Daytona Scion Exposed event with dyno results!


that is what lead me to believe that you are adding the cost of the "fix" to the price of the header.

Any header purchased from us that throws a CEL we will send out a “fix”, every order will include this fix one we have it into production. We are currently testing it on the DC and Megan header and results look VERY good. Pricing for our version of the Megan racing header and DC header will be priced higher than all other retailers, but we will have a “real” solution to the CEL.

We will announce fix at the Daytona Scion Exposed event with dyno results!


that is what lead me to believe that you are adding the cost of the "fix" to the price of the header.

The price is $259 and we are offering the fix for free for our customers... Lets just say it starts with an "s" and ends with a "pipe"

so instead of u guys using the spark plug anti fouler method u will be using a new s-pipe? is dat what ur sayin to fix the cell?

so instead of u guys using the spark plug anti fouler method u will be using a new s-pipe? is dat what ur sayin to fix the cell?


Hahaha, if we gave up all of our r&d information we wouldn’t have the jump on everyone else. We will have test information posted shortly; we want to have concrete stats before releasing anything. For “our” customers we will take care of the CEL problem and we are working with Megan Racing to fix the problem with the header system. The tC motor runs really hot which is one of the major issues with adding aftermarket parts w/o remapping the ecu.

even though it throws a CEL, damn it is an awesome header. i love mine. the combo of the megan racing header and k&n intake has given my tC some serious go-power. here's my engine bay:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/808000-808999/808333_24_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/808000-808999/808333_23_full.jpg


Very nice Zack!!

so $259 shipped you receive the megan header and a new s pipe? In that case I want in let me know how I can order.

A lot of the headers out are not CARB legal such as the DC-Sports one. But I believe this one may be emissions legal.

Can anyone verify this.

no its legal cause of the pre cat...no one said it came with an s pipe

no its legal cause of the pre cat...no one said it came with an s pipe

the header itself does it have a carb # or E.O. #

Also is there a way to get rid of the cel

even though it throws a CEL, damn it is an awesome header. i love mine. the combo of the megan racing header and k&n intake has given my tC some serious go-power. here's my engine bay:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/808000-808999/808333_24_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/808000-808999/808333_23_full.jpg

Your engine bay looks hot I love the carbon fiber engine cover, also good choice bcp same as my tc , I think you should change your hoses it would be a nice touch. Does your header throw a cel?
have you even been reading this thread? he earlier stated that it throws the CEL.

well, megan racing responded to me. an obviously-non-native english speaker (i could hear an accent in the email! haha) replied telling me that i needed to reset the ecu (i did that from the very beginning) or else i needed to "get new computer." that seems completely ridiculous to me, so i responded back asking just what was meant by that.

i am local to megan racing and i offered my car should they need one for testing. interestingly, the e-mail i got from megan sounded like they pretty much are going to keep making the header as is and they don't care about the CEL.

i also asked (politely) just what the purpose of the pre-cat would be if the header still causes the CEL. i mean, if all headers throw a CEL, then the obvious header to buy would be the one making the most power. the precat is a restriction in the air flow, so megan's header will naturally be a little less powerful than an unobstructed one like dc. i wanted megan's because it's pretty, a good price, and is (likely) CARB legal. my car won't pass smog when it's throwing a CEL, even if the header is CARB certified and has the pre-cat.

anyway, i plan to try the anti-fouler fix on friday. and if tctunerz finds a solution which isn't so hokey, i might even buy it (since i didn't buy the header from them, i guess i don't qualify for the free solution... heck, if the s-pipe solution is also a tasty upgrade for exhausts which don't include the s-pipe, it'd be a worthy addition regardless of the header/CEL issue -- hint, hint, quick!).

zack... remember we had this discussion about about tctunerz at the last meet.... (*cough*..dont waste*cough*..your time*cough:cough*)

no its legal cause of the pre cat...no one said it came with an s pipe


The price is $259 and we are offering the fix for free for our customers... Lets just say it starts with an "s" and ends with a "pipe"

what exactly will a header do for my car?

that would be new info considering its not even been made yet....

i didnt see that sorry lol

zack... remember we had this discussion about about tctunerz at the last meet.... (*cough*..dont waste*cough*..your time*cough:cough*)

So what was the discussion about? Dont leave the rest of us out of the loop. Glad to see we are topic of discussion!

:rofl:

i dont care this is a nice header and im getting it for 240 shipped

ok..can't wait to see the results!

The price is $259 and we are offering the fix for free for our customers... Lets just say it starts with an "s" and ends with a "pipe"

I haven't had a problem with tctunerz at all, but I ask what the fix actually consists of and you give this very childish/non-professional.

Are you selling a header & new s-pipe for $259? if you are, I will purchase one.

If you are unable to answer this question in a professional manner... Lets just say it starts with "no" and ends with "business"

Guys just because a header makes you throw a Cel it doesn't mean it's bad or a flawed design...yes it's annoying but it happens.

You have removed a Cat and now your EGT probe (exhaust temp gauge) is reading weird results that it does not expect.

I suspect that the Cel could be solved very easily and cheaply. i have not replaced my headers (yet) and I have not unplugged my EGT probe, but I am guessing that they are similar to many other cars. When I had my WRX, there were two Cel's that most folks worried about. One was when we gutted the uppipe's cat or simply replaced it. That dealt with the EGT sensor. the other was when we replaced the downpipe or the 3rd cat (yes, they have 3 we have two thank God) That one dealt with the O2 sensor. There are many fixes for these, most of which require a simple resistor to fool the sensors. There's a company that sells them called Pony Express. http://www.ponyexpressperformance.com/products.html

They make fixes for lots of cars...I bet one of those would work and if not they could easily make one. Note that these are for O2 sensors and so are more for when replacing the second cat (doing a full catless exhaust)

There are also cheap and homemade fixes that folks have done. here's one for the EGT sensor on a WRX...maybe one of you could go out and try it once you've replaced your headers? It's cheap!
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4806

I agree suby2scion, it's not a huge deal, but I'd like to know what I'm purchasing. if I receive a header & a new s-pipe for this much it's a great deal.

If they don't replace the s-pipe, I can try the spark plug anti-fouler trick.

RacerZack those are some nice picks you got there. I'm still thinking about makeing this my next engin mod. Though I'm going to wait a bit and see if it's a s-pipe fix or some one comes out with a header that doesn't throw the CEL or there are more test with this one. My main concern that every thing stays legal (atleast past emisions) while adding to the performance.

i dont care this is a nice header and im getting it for 240 shipped

link me por favor! gracias!

Seems to be a popular header since we have been selling it at $246.05 shipped

hopefully mine gets here by saturday????

Mine too...Creativecompacts is the bomb :bow:

yay yay yay

headers arrived!!!!!


my billet grille came today too so they will both be on this weekend i hope!!

What's up with the header/s-pipe combo for $250? Can someone confirm this and where's the link?

yay yay yay

headers arrived!!!!!


my billet grille came today too so they will both be on this weekend i hope!!

Mine didn't come yet :nope: I think you got mine :rofl:

:lalala:


now now now :no:

What's up with the header/s-pipe combo for $250? Can someone confirm this and where's the link?


yes im very interested!

What's up with the header/s-pipe combo for $250? Can someone confirm this and where's the link?


yes im very interested!

so am i. i sent tctunerz a message but they havent replyed yet but they did give me a coupon code for $50 of any $200 or more purchas so even without the s-pipe it is a hell of a deal for the header but i want to wait and see if the s-pipe is included or if it is going to be included

:lalala:


now now now :no:

:rofl:

Enjoy the install and post some pics :bow:

zack... remember we had this discussion about about tctunerz at the last meet.... (*cough*..dont waste*cough*..your time*cough:cough*)

lol. i was intrigued by the idea of an s-pipe fix.

i've been in touch with megan racing and they say that mine is the first CEL they have heard about. they are apparently still looking at r&d to improve their design, so anyone that gets a CEL should contact megan racing and let them know. http://www.meganracing.com

Guys just because a header makes you throw a Cel it doesn't mean it's bad or a flawed design...yes it's annoying but it happens.

well, i agree and disagree. in the case of the megan header, the pretenses of being smog legal and not causing a CEL are there since they included the first cat. this suggests that the goal was to produce a header which would bolt right on with no "hacks" needed to keep the vehicle working properly. while i know the CEL is false and nothing is technically wrong, having the light on the dash is a red flag to both the service department at any scion dealer as well as (someday) the smog check station.

i'm fine with a fix and i understand that sometimes that is just how things go... i'd just prefer to not need one.

all of that said, let me be totally clear:
i love this header so much that i want to go out to my car right now and lick it!

What's up with the header/s-pipe combo for $250? Can someone confirm this and where's the link?


yes im very interested!

so am i. i sent tctunerz a message but they havent replyed yet but they did give me a coupon code for $50 of any $200 or more purchas so even without the s-pipe it is a hell of a deal for the header but i want to wait and see if the s-pipe is included or if it is going to be included

Spread the love bro-ski!! What's the coupon code? pm it dude!!

Someone please post the link to or describe the 'spark plug anti-fouler trick' so I can look into it and figure out how to apply to a future install. I like to get all the facts and do as much research as possible before dropping any cash. Thanks!

Someone please post the link to or describe the 'spark plug anti-fouler trick' so I can look into it and figure out how to apply to a future install. I like to get all the facts and do as much research as possible before dropping any cash. Thanks!

Here is the link so you can do that research and get all the facts, you can also get it by pressing the red "search" button...
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/search.php

Someone please post the link to or describe the 'spark plug anti-fouler trick' so I can look into it and figure out how to apply to a future install. I like to get all the facts and do as much research as possible before dropping any cash. Thanks!

Here is the link so you can do that research and get all the facts, you can also get it by pressing the red "search" button...
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/search.php

That's cute English,

But like any respectful SL member I have already taken those steps and found nothing, neither has SupaWhitetC who is trying to help me through it in a DC header thread. Why do people waste their time posting smartass crap like this? It's pretty counterproductive, and only makes you look like an ___. Thanks anyways though.

Well looks like in a matter of minutes I already owe English an apology :eyebrow: . I narrowed the search down the the tC Power Hungry forum and found the guide. Guess I should pay attention a little better next time! Sorry about that English, but wouldn't it have been easier to just direct me to that thread instead of posting the little blurb? Probably, but whatever. I have what I need now :)

For those of you that don't already know, here's the how-to on the O2 sensor fix (spark plug anti-fouler trick) that will eliminate your CEL problems. This particular application was written up for a Lancer Evolution, but will still work for our cars. It's a cheap and fairly easy fix for about 5 dollars in parts. Good luck!

http://forums.evolutionm.net/printthread.php?t=99137

and the thread for the tC application here at SL:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=49748&highlight=antifouler

Cheers!

-Adam

i want teh $50 off any purchase over $200 coupon please! And then i amr eady to buy header! 259-50 off!!! 209!!! SWEET DEAL! With s PIPE!? I want to make this happen

That's cute English,
But like any respectful SL member I have already taken those steps and found nothing, neither has SupaWhitetC who is trying to help me through it in a DC header thread. Why do people waste their time posting smartass crap like this? It's pretty counterproductive, and only makes you look like an ___. Thanks anyways though.

I agree, the search feature on this forum sucks REALLY bad.

I will be purchasing the header from creativecompacts if tctunerz doesn't respond soon.

By the way...looks like tCTunerz is also selling headers on eBay..but shipping is $38 I think they're the DC headers..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7963708037&category=33632&sspagename=WDVW

And another seller is seeling what looks to be the DC Headers. But check out the shipping...$80!! Some deal.. :eyebrow:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7963561735&category=33631&sspagename=WDVW

Difference of $7.05.... Ebay has advertising tied into it... If you wanna use the ebay auction, $239 and wait 7 days... but right now we have to keep our online price at $246.05

Thanks
James

My bad...thought they were still at $259

Well as it has been made known, we will be offering the header for $239 on ebay till end of march to increase our feedback rating on there... We also offer the header at $246.05 thru our website till the end of the month.

i ordered the megan header from creativecompacts today. also, I had a little time on my hands so I did the spark plug anti-fouler trick in advance.

that metal was really hard to drill through, it took forever.

can't wait until I get the header. :)

same here i jus ordere the headers too should be arriving soon..

All orders shipped out same day placed so please allow 3-4 days for delivery

Thanks CreativeCOmpacts - Got mine today and it looks SWEET :bow:

I ordered my headers yesterday from www.creativecompacts.com and spoke to James about the CEL concerns. He was very helpful. Thanks James/CreativeCompacts! I'm practically chewing through my pencil waiting for these badboys to arrive...

I ordered my headers yesterday from www.creativecompacts.com and spoke to James about the CEL concerns. He was very helpful. Thanks James/CreativeCompacts! I'm practically chewing through my pencil waiting for these badboys to arrive...

why don't you just go buy and install the spark plug anti-fouler's to kill some time? you don't have to wait for the header to do that... and when the header does come in you'll just be 1 step closer to being finished...

btw, the metal on the anti-fouler is VERY strong, it took a long time to drill through.. if you have a drill with varible speeds that can hold 1/2" drill bits I'd recommend using that. I had a really powerful drill with no varible speed. when you're going through metal that strong you want to be able to have the drill bit going slower. spinning super fast doesn't do much, just makes it hot and throws up sparks.

the only drill with varible speeds that I had wouldn't hold a 1/2" drill bit. :(

I ordered my headers yesterday from www.creativecompacts.com and spoke to James about the CEL concerns. He was very helpful. Thanks James/CreativeCompacts! I'm practically chewing through my pencil waiting for these badboys to arrive...

why don't you just go buy and install the spark plug anti-fouler's to kill some time? you don't have to wait for the header to do that... and when the header does come in you'll just be 1 step closer to being finished...

btw, the metal on the anti-fouler is VERY strong, it took a long time to drill through.. if you have a drill with varible speeds that can hold 1/2" drill bits I'd recommend using that. I had a really powerful drill with no varible speed. when you're going through metal that strong you want to be able to have the drill bit going slower. spinning super fast doesn't do much, just makes it hot and throws up sparks.

the only drill with varible speeds that I had wouldn't hold a 1/2" drill bit. :(

Yeah I'll probably take care of that this weekend. My roommate's dad owns a machine shop with a very rugged and sturdy drill press. Should be a quick drill-out and then I'll just slap it on the s-pipe until my headers show up. Hopefully I won't have to wait too long!

im unemployed right now so i wont be able to use this here it is let me know how the service is with them i think this is the perfect time for tc tunerz to show if they are a good company or not and end all the rumors as long as they dont f-ck ppl over with the coupon or the shipping of the header

We wanted to say thanks for supporting us and offer you a $50 coupon for any purchase over $200.

Code: 01-thanks

Thanks
Quick

Sub-Total: $259.00
Individual Shipping (Flat Shipping Rate): $35.00
Discount Coupons:01-thanks: $50.00
Total: $244.00

$35 shipping, are they serious, kills the deal right off the bat.

I hate when companies rip customers off on shipping and handeling, tis so dishonest and not loyal!

well if they dot the s-pipe with it its still a hell of a deal but lets see if they do i sent them a messages 3 days ago and still no reply

PLEASE GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD THAT TCTUNERZ IS TRASH!!

Thank you, and for god's sake shop more wisely.

i didnt buy any thing yet they gave me a coupon and i shared it if they can prove them selfs with the deal then we can all buy from them if not i learned a lesson and didnt loose any money

I would place the order with the coupon and free shipping......till then nothing. Why dont they post back ro reply to their customers? WTF is wrong with these guys.

And something that has been bothering me since the start:

What kind of business has a picture of paris hilton geting railed on their avatar???

^ yeah i woundered about that also lol paris hilton what a whore

tctunerz waited too long so i just ordered it somewhere else.

With all due respect your guys cry so much, damn, i understand you have a right to your opinion but sheesh

Just installed my new Megan Racing headers and wow I can notice a difference in pull from the engine. I did a 1/4 mile against a SER with CAI and headers and I was able to keep up with him. I would have had him from the start had I launched properly. But yea noticeable chage in power and no CEL. Fun times!

lyracon u haven't gotten a CEL? how far have u driven already with the header installed

With all due respect your guys cry so much, damn, i understand you have a right to your opinion but sheesh


At a point it ceases being opinion and then it becomes fact and for tct, it has become a fact, they are bad business, with poor customer service and questionable business practices.

should be getting my header tomorrow. :)

yea i should be getting my header tom as well.

some of the bolts look difficult to reach (the bolts the hold on the brackets), other then that it looks pretty easy.

i'll post tomorrow about how the install went and how it sounds. and also if the anti-fouler trick worked.

creativecompacts, do the shipments usually go through UPS, Fed-ex or DHL?

I just finished the Megan header install this past weekend....whew some of those bolts are hard to get to. I did it with the following tools:

#14 speed wrench
#14 open end wrench
#14 socket and ratchet with short and long extension
#12 socket
#12 speed wrench
One large Crescent wrench for the O2 sensor

Jack the car up and place stands underneath. Lots of muscle to break the bolts loose.

I just ordered my intake and tein springs from creative compacts. I'm just not sure what header to get. So I'm going to be waiting for some reviews from everyone with this header......

im leaning towards this one since the dc rusts, i dont want a rusted header lol

Ok just got my CEL hehe I drove almost 800 miles before it came om and I installed it on approx 290 miles. hehe thought it was clear sailing hehe. Sorry for the misinformation.

ScionDad is right -- some of the bolts are hard to reach and require a lot of muscle to undo.

As for the CEL/antifouler trick.... damnit. My s-pipe O2 sensor is impossible to remove. The threads are gunked up or something, since I got about 2 turns and then it just froze up on me. I was working with my (much stronger) friend and between the two of us we couldn't do anything to get the sensor off the s-pipe. We even BROKE a crescent wrench trying to remove it! We tried under the car and then we removed the s-pipe and worked on it outside of the car.

So, I still have a CEL and was unable to install the antifoulers. I did drill one of the out quite nicely. Used a dremel to grind it smooth. 1/2" drill bit with oil worked great. Now the 2 antifoulers are sitting in my glove box.

Any suggestions? I'm pretty much SOL until Megan Racing (or SOMEONE) finds a solution... OR I could buy a new s-pipe and O2 sensor. But that would suck.

ScionDad is right -- some of the bolts are hard to reach and require a lot of muscle to undo.

As for the CEL/antifouler trick.... damnit. My s-pipe O2 sensor is impossible to remove. The threads are gunked up or something, since I got about 2 turns and then it just froze up on me. I was working with my (much stronger) friend and between the two of us we couldn't do anything to get the sensor off the s-pipe. We even BROKE a crescent wrench trying to remove it! We tried under the car and then we removed the s-pipe and worked on it outside of the car.

So, I still have a CEL and was unable to install the antifoulers. I did drill one of the out quite nicely. Used a dremel to grind it smooth. 1/2" drill bit with oil worked great. Now the 2 antifoulers are sitting in my glove box.

Any suggestions? I'm pretty much SOL until Megan Racing (or SOMEONE) finds a solution... OR I could buy a new s-pipe and O2 sensor. But that would suck.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune with the O2 sensor bolt. I ran into similar problems myself, and decided to give it a couple stout whacks with a rubber mallet and give it a try again. After shocking it with the hammer blows it kinda creaked and crunched and eventually came off. There looked to be some kind of dried up sealant on the threads, which might be what you're encountering. Just a suggestion, but it seemed to work for me! Good luck!

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Sorry to hear about your misfortune with the O2 sensor bolt. I ran into similar problems myself, and decided to give it a couple stout whacks with a rubber mallet and give it a try again. After shocking it with the hammer blows it kinda creaked and crunched and eventually came off. There looked to be some kind of dried up sealant on the threads, which might be what you're encountering. Just a suggestion, but it seemed to work for me! Good luck![/quote]

:rofl: Oh, there were a few bolts that I thought for sure I was going to snap off trying to loosen. Then you have to really be creative trying to figure out best angle for leverage...... :rofl:

Sorry guys I have been out of town for the holidays and some family events....

All header orders placed with our company are shipped within 24 hours.....

Remember our discount ends on March 31st which is this thursday

Thanks
James

Duuude!!! I definately had the same problems! I couldn't get either of the O2 sensors out for the life of me! I then had the idea to WD40 them, and then they came out SOOOO easily! Just be careful not to use too much or get any on the sensors when you pull them out. Word of warning, it will smoke for a minute or so when you start the car back up because of the excess WD, but seriously, use WD40!

WORKS LIKE A CHARM!!!

so u put wd40 on the outside of the s-pipe and bolt and it was able to penetrate down the threads and loosen the bolt? damn, i figured it was too tight for that to work. i'll have to give that a try! thanx!

so u put wd40 on the outside of the s-pipe and bolt and it was able to penetrate down the threads and loosen the bolt? damn, i figured it was too tight for that to work. i'll have to give that a try! thanx!

Yep, that's exactly how I did it, the bolt came out SO easy after that!

Good luck!

So any of you guys that did the anti fouler trick gotten the cell.

No CEL here. :clap:

I went ahead and did it at the same time I put the header on since it was already on jacks and the antifoulers were $6.00 at the parts store.

None for me either, 1000 miles later!

the header didn't show up yesterday, most likely it'll come in today.

the O2 sensor on the s-pipe came right off for me. :)

Awesome thanks for the quick reply guys

did any one use the coupon yet?

I wonder if these headers will work with the supercharged engine :D?

Really the megan headers sound a lot better in quality than the DC. The bad reviews about the DC headers and the exhaust note it creates makes me uneasy, which is why I am gravitating toward megan since it doesn't alter the exhaust tone in such a negative manner.

I wonder if these headers will work with the supercharged engine :D?

Really the megan headers sound a lot better in quality than the DC. The bad reviews about the DC headers and the exhaust note it creates makes me uneasy, which is why I am gravitating toward megan since it doesn't alter the exhaust tone in such a negative manner.

Actually, they do. They sound almost identical to the DC's, even with the highflow precat built into it. *sighs*

I'll probably swap them out and put the stock ones back on. I can't stand the noise.

from what I understand, if you let the megan headers break in, the DC sport header annoyingness goes away. Meanwhile, the DC sport headers just keep the same raspyness even after being broken in.

from what I understand, if you let the megan headers break in, the DC sport header annoyingness goes away. Meanwhile, the DC sport headers just keep the same raspyness even after being broken in.

According to ScionDad the raspiness is still there, just at a lower tone. I dunno, I could use the extra cash so I'll just sell the headers and put the stock ones back on for now.

from what I understand, if you let the megan headers break in, the DC sport header annoyingness goes away. Meanwhile, the DC sport headers just keep the same raspyness even after being broken in.

According to ScionDad the raspiness is still there, just at a lower tone. I dunno, I could use the extra cash so I'll just sell the headers and put the stock ones back on for now.

CAN SOMEONE WHO HAS THESE INSTALLED AND BROKEN IN PLEASE CLARIFY THESE ISSUES! :love:

from what I understand, if you let the megan headers break in, the DC sport header annoyingness goes away. Meanwhile, the DC sport headers just keep the same raspyness even after being broken in.

According to ScionDad the raspiness is still there, just at a lower tone. I dunno, I could use the extra cash so I'll just sell the headers and put the stock ones back on for now.

CAN SOMEONE WHO HAS THESE INSTALLED AND BROKEN IN PLEASE CLARIFY THESE ISSUES! :love:

Just PM ScionDad. He's already broken them in and can give you a better description.

I put this header on my car yesterday, I was kind of shocked how they didn't include any bolts at all. The bolts on the brackets are connected to the stock header so you have to find & purchase your own bolts.

Also, when I bolted the megan header to the S-Pipe I noticed that it didn't seem completely air tight. Everything did line up, and the bolts did turn until they were very tight.

I had my friend go inside the car and rev it up a few times and I noticed that I felt a small ammount of air come out where the header connected to the s-pipe. I was wondering if this is normal or not?

I really don't see any other possible way to connect the header to the s-pipe because the holes & bolts line up perfectly.

Any advise would be great.

new gasket and tighten the bolts you should be good 2 go!

You have to be careful when you tighten down the header flange to S pipe that the bolts with the springs actually go in right. If the springs don't compress, then the tapered bolt is not seated right. Also the obvious exhaust gasket everyone is talking about (doughnut looking thing to S pipe).

The header will change sound after a month or so (a few 1000 miles).

I changed out the TRD exhaust for the original stock last night and the sound lowered alot. I'll drive it around for a while and see how it sounds.

I got the problems fixed with the exhaust leaking. I forgot the gasket by mistake.

I have the spark plug anti-fouler's installed correcltly and still got the CEL. :(

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I got the problems fixed with the exhaust leaking. I forgot the gasket by mistake.

I have the spark plug anti-fouler's installed correcltly and still got the CEL. :(

oh crap......... :nails:

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