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sway bar for sure. You will definity notice the difference with the swaybar
the strut bar does didily jack because of how the struts are set up in the tC. It already uses the firewall for support.

Ditto....

sway bar, wouldn't even get the strut brace.

thanks

hotchkis sway bars, uou wont notice the strut bar at all, it just makes the engine bay look nicer

the rear strut makes a difference though... but the TC doesnt have a rear one out yet...

The stut tower bar DOES NOT do what people think it does... It is there to keep the towers 'aligned' and less likely to 'twist and bend' over time and knock your struts/spings/shocks out of camber and stifness due to sporty driving.

People are mistaking the strut tower to respond like a sway bar. These are two different things... again, the strut bar is to keep the towers from 'moving' overtime. It makes the towers 'rigid and strong.' You do not want a stut tower hooked up to your firewall. It would help make it more rigid yes, but the 'flex' of a car would make it more likely to bend the towers inward/outward/etc. then if just left as it is now... risking the chance of breaking something i.e. the strut bar or tearing off the bolts hooked up to the firewall or strut tower. It is there for a reason. Toyota just didn't invest millions in development for something that just looks good. It helps but not in the way you peeps think it does.

Sways are there for tight ___ cornering at higher speeds that you feel in your stomach and your grip of the steering wheel... No body roll of the car. Sways makes your car feel like it is on rails in turns or evasive driving.... no body roll. period.

much harder on tire wear and you definitely need stiffer shocks/springs for the full effect... the major catch is that once you stiffen all these components you shouldn't drive on wet or snowy roads. You want a 'softer sway' to take the corners and driving in these conditions... otherwise you are at a high risk of drifting your car with the stiffer add ons. For bad weather you really want a softer set up.
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The stut tower bar DOES NOT do what people think it does... It is there to keep the towers 'aligned' and less likely to 'twist and bend' over time and knock your struts/spings/shocks out of camber and stifness due to sporty driving.

People are mistaking the strut tower to respond like a sway bar. These are two different things... again, the strut bar is to keep the towers from 'moving' overtime. It makes the towers 'rigid and strong.' You do not want a stut tower hooked up to your firewall. It would help make it more rigid yes, but the 'flex' of a car would make it more likely to bend the towers inward/outward/etc. then if just left as it is now... risking the chance of breaking something i.e. the strut bar or tearing off the bolts hooked up to the firewall or strut tower. It is there for a reason. Toyota just didn't invest millions in development for something that just looks good. It helps but not in the way you peeps think it does.

Sways are there for tight ___ cornering at higher speeds that you feel in your stomach and your grip of the steering wheel... not in body roll of the car. Sways makes your car feel like it is on rails in turns or evasive driving.... no body roll. period.

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You beat me to it... :clap:

ok ok chill dude, i know the fundamentals of sways and struts.

lol my "bling-bling" sense is tingling. or else why would u even ask this question. if you're interested in true performance handleing, this question is just ludacris. but i have a feeling you're more interested in impressing the guys down at jiffy lube. bling it up bro, go ahead get a diamond studded strut brace with an integrated lcd screen and spinning strut towers.

ouch...i smell...burn?

just get both and leave this question be

ok ok chill dude, i know the fundamentals of sways and struts.

But I didn't chiefy...so the information was welcome.


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thanks for the info motozen

The stut tower bar DOES NOT do what people think it does... It is there to keep the towers 'aligned' and less likely to 'twist and bend' over time and knock your struts/spings/shocks out of camber and stifness due to sporty driving.

People are mistaking the strut tower to respond like a sway bar. These are two different things... again, the strut bar is to keep the towers from 'moving' overtime. It makes the towers 'rigid and strong.' You do not want a stut tower hooked up to your firewall. It would help make it more rigid yes, but the 'flex' of a car would make it more likely to bend the towers inward/outward/etc. then if just left as it is now... risking the chance of breaking something i.e. the strut bar or tearing off the bolts hooked up to the firewall or strut tower. It is there for a reason. Toyota just didn't invest millions in development for something that just looks good. It helps but not in the way you peeps think it does.

Sways are there for tight butt cornering at higher speeds that you feel in your stomach and your grip of the steering wheel... No body roll of the car. Sways makes your car feel like it is on rails in turns or evasive driving.... no body roll. period.

much harder on tire wear and you definitely need stiffer shocks/springs for the full effect... the major catch is that once you stiffen all these components you shouldn't drive on wet or snowy roads. You want a 'softer sway' to take the corners and driving in these conditions... otherwise you are at a high risk of drifting your car with the stiffer add ons. For bad weather you really want a softer set up.
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Front tower strut bars, on a tC, are not very effective because of the way the towers are constructed. The way they are enginered and integrated into the firewall area make them extremely strong and rigid already. What I don't understand is your comment about "not wanting the strut towers connected to the firewall" as it already is. I like the strut bar look and if it helps a half percent then all is good.

yay very informative. =] more knowledge for me. ^__^

I think everyone understands that a strut bar does not help handling. The tC is manufactured to a price point that is a little south of ridgid. I just installed the TRD strut bar and while it did not make a night and day difference, it does make the front end feel just a tiny bit tighter and it looks great. I sure wish they would offer one for the rear. That is where the car needs a lot of help.

Here it is. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8033799487&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1