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jelder11
04-06-2011, 12:03 AM
Looking around at Air Susppension kits. And i see many different kits.. Who makes the better kit. Or the most complete kit. Or can you buy the stuff seperate and pieece one together cheaper than buying a kit.

So does it go higher than stock when fully aired up and how much lower does it go then say df springs.

xseveredveganx
04-06-2011, 12:26 AM
Randode seems to be the one that gets you down. The Air Lift kit seems to be pretty easy to install. Air Runner is a very nice kit, but expensive and the components are sub-par in my opinion.

emrules2001
04-06-2011, 01:05 AM
You can definitely piece one together, not extremely hard. About 1/2 the headache of piecing a turbo kit together. I have a friend local that is starting his own air ride company, check it out: http://www.facebook.com/fbcustoms

eight08customs
04-06-2011, 03:43 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5064/5566870237_f5b6ffdc1a_o.jpg

http://www.airsociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Scion-XB-Air-Suspenion-Bags-BBS-002-1024x650.jpg

Check our feature on Stance Nation and Air Society

http://www.airsociety.net/2011/02/marshall-lums-patron-xb/

http://www.stancenation.com/2011/03/28/the-island-trio-part-3/

we have a kit at forjworks.. its a bolt on kit..

www.forjworks.com

Comes with new struts.. Tokicos with our bracket system that fits so no rattles like the other kits on the market does... we use UAS Bags with our own brackets that fit the application if you havent used UAS before there brackets for the struts are uninversal and every strut is a differant size. So when using the UAS brackets it has slop that cuases rattles.. we sell our brackets seperate if you want to peice your kit together..

http://www.forjworks.com/Assets/ProductImages/LargeImages_AirStrutBagBrackets.jpg
http://www.forjworks.com/Air-Strut-Bag-Brackets-Front-Set-P124.aspx

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af50/ForjWorks/ForjWorks%20Air%20Rides/StrutBag_LG_4.jpg

A for how low our kit gets.. I will let the pics do the talking and you decide. we by far have the lowest gen 2 right now..

Includes dakota digital gauges

2170.00 plus shipping..

Kit without the gauges is is 1809.00 but we highly recomend getting the guages.

If you want to really do it yourself using the OEM struts.. we sell the kits without the struts. It come with our Forjworks Brackets .. so basicly not a bolt on but a DIY kit

1479.00 with out guages
1839.00 with dakota Digital guages

plus shipping

We also use only DOT Compression type fittings in which most of the other kits provide you with push to connect fittings that will leak in the comming years... becuase of an oring that seals it..

you can read more about our kits here
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199526

Stay away from air lift.. they make knocking noises and the front struts leak after awhile.. we have swaped a few out and customers were way more happy with our product.

The Forjworks kits are proven.. As we were the first ones to bag an Gen 2 XB and the kit that is in my car has been driven daily for the past 4 years and not one problem yet.

Our kits come with detailed instrcutions in which other kits dont provide.

Pasquale
04-06-2011, 03:59 AM
Looking around at Air Susppension kits. And i see many different kits.. Who makes the better kit. Or the most complete kit. Or can you buy the stuff seperate and pieece one together cheaper than buying a kit.

So does it go higher than stock when fully aired up and how much lower does it go then say df springs.

It all really depends on what you want. You will for sure go higher in the rear but if you want a lot of drop in the front you're going to have to sacrofice lift. Its all a game if your like me youre always chasing that next 1/2" of drop.

most kits are just pieced together components from different major companies. I use UAS components for my kits but I use some of my own components as well from my personal company.

These are some of the scions I've done including my own.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/pasquale123/46119_454258854318_624959318_6420297_2746650_n.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/pasquale123/JG255233copy-picsay.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/pasquale123/JG255229copy-picsay.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/pasquale123/JG253167copy-picsay-1.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/pasquale123/JG265665copy-picsay.jpg

Darrenb
04-07-2011, 04:31 AM
Randode Air Stunner extreme. Quality parts and well pieced together.

Im on 19s

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5102/5596680557_24f0e810dc_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5306/5596679167_e908e9e1c5_b.jpg

eight08customs
04-07-2011, 05:24 AM
Prefect we just listed our kits on our site! Just click and order!

Forjworks Air Ride Systems Gen 2 2008 and up Scion XB kits are now for sale one out site.. You can just click and order directly online!

Lowest gen 2 kit on the market!

http://www.forjworks.com/Product.aspx?ProductId=84&CategoryId=40#

xseveredveganx
04-07-2011, 05:41 AM
Randode Air Stunner extreme. Quality parts and well pieced together.

Im on 19s



So much WIN.

Pasquale
04-07-2011, 04:46 PM
Marshull is that a pneumatic kit? or digital?

eight08customs
04-08-2011, 05:02 AM
It uses air switches. to make the install simple for the DYI. Guages are digital..

We keep the systems basic! so it newbe friendly.

We also sell it with Manifold valves. for an extra cost.

Pasquale
04-08-2011, 09:54 PM
with only 2 pneumatic switches dose the car sway at all? because the air can bladder from one side the other? I've always used 4 switches because I assumed that it would do that.

Ricersux
04-08-2011, 10:07 PM
Its all about the amount of valves not switches...8 valves are the safest and control air from flowing between bags.

xseveredveganx
04-08-2011, 10:18 PM
Its all about the amount of valves not switches...8 valves are the safest and control air from flowing between bags.

Yes and no. I am assuming Pasquale asking Marshal if they use solenoid valves or manual valves. Manual valves are like what Air Runner uses, outdated by 10+ years IMO.
You're talking about electric valves. If you run 4 valves, you can run front and rear. 8 valves lets you control everything.

eight08customs
04-09-2011, 06:18 AM
with only 2 pneumatic switches dose the car sway at all? because the air can bladder from one side the other? I've always used 4 switches because I assumed that it would do that.


Nope it doesnt..

why? you have sway bars on the car. Mine rides the same as the ones we put all four corners.

We can also add the side to side for extra cost..

What we are selling has been proven to work. the same system is in my car and my car was the first gen 2 xb on bags .. 4 years of testing with no issues.. it speaks for itself.

Here is how we take it.. The more simple the system the failure.

AS for air swtiches being out dated. WE dont think so. It is the most basic thing out there.

Valves are more high tech and reliable but we put our kits togther in means of someone that wanted to do it for the first time they wouldnt have to figure out how to mount valves and all the pumbing invovled ..

But we do offer an altenative to air swtiches and valve.. its a manifold valve.
that uses way less fitting which mean less connections..

We also sell accuair for those that want to go really high tech.

Pasquale
04-09-2011, 06:46 PM
I couldn't agree with you more marshull. The only fuse I have on my suspension is the one coming off my compressor. If something were to ever go wrong I dont have to worry about fishing through a ratnest of wires and fuses to find a problem. The reason I put my manual kit together was because its affordable and I can easily say that its more reliable then any digital kit.