Just when I was about to buy the 2011 tC, this next gen SI comes out and I am impressed!! Yes it cost about 3K more… Now I am not sure which coupe to go with?!?! Input please…..

 

If you want the LSD, and more HP, then spend the extra $$ and get the SI... I don't see the pricing on the Honda site for the 2012, but if the 2011 is any guide, you're looking at around $25k or more with the 18" rims.

Out the door I was under 20k for my 2011 tC. *shrug*

 

I chose tC over Si because tC is 100% built in Japan while Si is in Canada.
If Si was built in Japan too, then I would've bought 4 door Si.

 

Release date : 5/11/11
Starting at $22,505

You gotta check out this custom cockpit (it's standard)...
http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-si-coupe/i-mid.aspx

 

My issue with the si is hondas mark up on them...around here they were going for 24-25k...I got my wrx for that much! :/ have you driven both of them to compare?

 

Both are great cars. The new Civic is definitely more upscale and nicer overall, but you're paying a premium for it. It also requires premium fuel and is probably also costlier to insure.

In summary:
tC: cheaper
Si: nicer

 

I have drove the 2011 tC, but I'm going to wait and test drive the SI to be sure. It's only 2 weeks away. And yeah... I don't need all the extras on the SI. I rather save $$$

 

I just made a quick xls to upload onto the thread, to give you a breakdown comparison... ofc I can't upload it (to large...lol)

Here's a few things:
Horsepower 180 @ 6000 RPM 201 @ 7000
Torque 173 @ 4100 RPM 170 @ 4400
Bore x Stroke 90.0 x 98.0 87 x 99
Compression 10.4:1 11.0 : 1

Curb Weight (mt/at) 3060 lbs / 3102 lbs 2877 / 2897 (with Navigation)

Avg MPG is about the same, 1 better on the tC, but factor in the premium gas prices.. yuk

As well, like I said, if you want rims... stock tC, 18" gunmetal hotness... Civic Si, add 18s and you're up another 2k or so!!

 

No contest, dude. If you can afford it, Civic SI all the way. SI is lighter, fast, has better handling, and responds a lot better to bolt ons. It's not bad, the new ones are coming out around $23K......which is better than a turbo tC2.
I'm not a fan of the tC2 either.....

Civic SI + bolt ons = FAST for $23K

Turbo tC + turbo = REALLY fast for $23K BUT much higher upkeep with tunes, frequent oil changes, plus all the extra stuff you'll need to get too.

 

i don't like the new SI. i prefer the 8th gen sedan SI

 

people forget the 2012 SI gets the k24 treatment......

 

Honda Civics are like buttholes... My theory anyways. 23k for a Civic? NO thanks, I will admit they do look and sound sweet. Keep in mind 23K will buy you a 300hp V-6 Camaro...Just a thought!! The 2011 Tc is probably the best car around the 20K mark hands down. Yes it could use more power for fun factor, but for everyday driving it is plenty strong enough.

 

If you are in to performance you can get right out from factory, go with the SI.. 23K im sure pays for what you get from it. I havent been on the tc2 but I like how the 8th gen SI rides and handles compared to a stock tc.. but the biggest factor is lighter and more hp. If you can afford 23K plus premium gas go for it, if you want somehting that cost less get the tc.. What you pay is what you get

 

WOW, you come here asking about the Si ... I'm actually surprised you got some unbiased answers. Yet, most of us went ahead and chose to drive a Scion. I totally agree the Si is better, then and now. But if it's all about numbers. As XIEmperorIX said, with the $$$ of the Si you have more choices to think of, that'll perform better. If that's your thing then be sure to shop around.

I heard a rumor of a Type-R coming, it may be worth YOUR wait.

 

So what's wrong with Canada?

I like the Si and yes it does have better features (ie: LSD), but the tC is unique and a lot of fun to drive. Plus, you have OE performance support. For a few grand you can make the tC a much better car than the Si.

Oh, and its torque that wins races, not HP.

 

If were to spend the extra money, I'd go with the Genesis 2.0T rather than the Civic Si. While I'll admit, I'm not sure what you mean by "LSD", but the extras the Civic has just aren't all that exciting. It's like auto headlights. What a waste.

 

At first when I was excited when i saw this, but personally the SI Coupe looks more girly than the old SI to me... The Sedan version looks pretty good though.

The new engine is pretty awesome though

 

I was thinking cars built in Japan are more reliable than the cars built in elsewhere.

I once had built in U.S. Toyota and had it for 6 years.
It felt like 6 year old car after 6 years.
All the other cars I had were built in Japan and they felt like were only a year or 2 old even after 6 - 8 years.
After that experience, I only look for cars built in Japan.
But I'd rather buy built in Canada Honda than built in Japan Nissan..., so I'm not really making sense here...

 

Sorry. By LSD I meant Limited Slip Differential. The Si uses a helical LSD, which is wicked.

See, the thing I hate about the Si is the engine. The heads have far too many moving parts and its just junk. Honda has been out of the roller/rocker game for a while and this return was anything but triumphant. My 2003 Civic SiR, the car I owned before the tC, cooked all the valvetrain from track use. A classic Honda would never have done that because of a solid or hydraulic lifter design.

...That and it was a torqueless wonder. Fun as hell to drive, but slow as molasses. The B-Series was much better built than the K-Series for consistent abuse. Unfortunately everyone has to change because of changing emissions standards...sad really.

Now before the bashing starts, again, I've owned 4 Honda's, my g/f currently has a 2002 SiR, and I have 2 family members that work for them...

 

Yea nothing wrong with being made in canada! The car was designed in Japan. Its being made to there specs.

But OE support for the tC is whack! Overpriced rebadged equipment that you can get much better quality from aftermarket with very comparable pricing. The SI is better out of the box. Responds better to bolt ones and will have way more aftermarket support! It looks way better too.

Now your torque comment is mute as the torque is almost the same and the SI has a decent amount more on HP which easily makes up for the 2 less torque.

Regardless both cars have pros and cons. I dont like the new tC but it offers alot. Cant knock the truth! It has potential just like the first gen! Its all about what ride meets your needs! Your also gonna get the same attention in either before i forget.

Your car has come along nicely though!