View Full Version : k&n Complete Cold Air...


NoShiO
03-16-2005, 09:46 PM
So yea i called k&n today and i asked a few questions
how much is the k&n CAI for the scion tC?
360
Does it come in a Complete Cold Air?
yes it does
Does it convert to Short Ram?
yes both cold air and Complete Cold Air convert (i think he answered wrong because when i cheked on the site it said only the CCA(complete cold air) work...


so 360 MSRP.... and about 250 ish for other dealers...
but the thing is, has anyone gotten the complete cold air (CCA) that converts
to a short ram?.... there was a post earlier... but it never showed any pictures...
anyone help alittle out...
its either the weapon R short ram forever... or the k&n CCA that converts to eitheer...

anyhelp..
ty

NoShiO
03-17-2005, 06:44 PM
.....bumpy bumpy bumpy NJ roads!1

........anyone...

ScionDad
03-18-2005, 12:58 AM
I'll have mine next week, so when it comes I will try to make it a short ram first....then cold air.

I know what you mean about the CCA system. It's on their web, yet everyone says the CI will do it. Yet, no one will try it and post it....So, if no one has by next week, I will see if it works. :lalala:

NoShiO
03-18-2005, 01:47 AM
I'll have mine next week, so when it comes I will try to make it a short ram first....then cold air.

I know what you mean about the CCA system. It's on their web, yet everyone says the CI will do it. Yet, no one will try it and post it....So, if no one has by next week, I will see if it works. :lalala:
sounds good...
good luck with the install...

tyhave a nice day

matt12v
04-02-2005, 09:07 AM
please does anybody have pics of a the k&n cai version configured as a short ram?
:pray:

vanberge
04-02-2005, 01:10 PM
I want to know who why everyone thinks it can be configured short ram... ?


Just because you happen to be able to get the filter on the end of the single pipe?

It's obviously not designed to be set up that way, it says nothing about it on K&N's website.

It also says that it is "For off road use only". ???? the K&N doesnt appear to be street legal. (yet). Anybody know if they are getting CARB tested ??

davo345
04-02-2005, 04:33 PM
is it possible to get a pic of the filter in the wheelwell?

DouBLeJ16
04-03-2005, 04:00 AM
i have the K&N CAI and you can convert it to a short ram intake if you want. you just take off the lower section of the pipe, it's very easy..

personally, I would never do this, if you want a short ram intake get the weapon R.

tc05
04-12-2005, 05:39 PM
Has your intake from K&N cause your CEL to turn on? Some guys keeps saying its not street legal and stuff just wondering

qbnlykwhoa
04-12-2005, 06:51 PM
On the K&N, where is the final location of the Filter in cold air setup. Like where does it sit? (the filter)

GerryWhite
04-13-2005, 01:22 PM
Has your intake from K&N cause your CEL to turn on? Some guys keeps saying its not street legal and stuff just wondering
What does "cause your CEL to turn on" mean? Thanks...

hahaitzskippy
04-13-2005, 01:27 PM
Has your intake from K&N cause your CEL to turn on? Some guys keeps saying its not street legal and stuff just wondering
What does "cause your CEL to turn on" mean? Thanks...

does you check engine light turn on


thats wat he means

GerryWhite
04-13-2005, 01:36 PM
Has your intake from K&N cause your CEL to turn on? Some guys keeps saying its not street legal and stuff just wondering
What does "cause your CEL to turn on" mean? Thanks...
does you check engine light turn on
thats wat he means
Thanks... DOH! I should know that since mine is due to come on tomorrow when I hit 35k on my tC. :doh:

mrbridge
04-13-2005, 02:05 PM
It also says that it is "For off road use only". ???? the K&N doesnt appear to be street legal. (yet). Anybody know if they are getting CARB tested ??


You seem to be confused, let me help you.

All of these intakes are in fact, street legal. They are 49 state legal. If you live in beautiful california (which you do not) then the dreaded CARB applies to you (California Air Resources Board). They are in the process of getting tested and awaiting approval. The only impact CARB will have on the other 49 states is the wait you will go through to get the item.

Hope this helps.

ScionDad
04-13-2005, 02:14 PM
On the K&N, where is the final location of the Filter in cold air setup. Like where does it sit? (the filter)

The filter sits in the wheelwell on the drivers side.

ScionDad
04-13-2005, 02:17 PM
I want to know who why everyone thinks it can be configured short ram... ?


Just because you happen to be able to get the filter on the end of the single pipe?

It's obviously not designed to be set up that way, it says nothing about it on K&N's website.

It also says that it is "For off road use only". ???? the K&N doesnt appear to be street legal. (yet). Anybody know if they are getting CARB tested ??

This is from their web site - "Typhoon intakes come in one of three designs; cold air intakes (CA), short ram intakes (SR), or complete cold air (CCA) intakes which can be configured as either a cold air intake or a short ram intake. "

tc05
04-13-2005, 08:55 PM
Why would your Check engine light come on at 35k? im just wondering

vanberge
04-13-2005, 11:18 PM
I want to know who why everyone thinks it can be configured short ram... ?


Just because you happen to be able to get the filter on the end of the single pipe?

It's obviously not designed to be set up that way, it says nothing about it on K&N's website.

It also says that it is "For off road use only". ???? the K&N doesnt appear to be street legal. (yet). Anybody know if they are getting CARB tested ??

This is from their web site - "Typhoon intakes come in one of three designs; cold air intakes (CA), short ram intakes (SR), or complete cold air (CCA) intakes which can be configured as either a cold air intake or a short ram intake. "

right... doesnt that mean that they come in ONE of three possible designs?? http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-8607TB

that page says "Cold air". not "Complete cold air". I took that to mean it could not be dual configured.

GerryWhite
04-14-2005, 12:19 AM
Why would your Check engine light come on at 35k? im just wondering
The Scion tC's default maintenance interval is every 5000 miles. I've seen threads where you can set the light to go on otherwise, but since I am driving 95% of my miles on the freeways, 5k is fine.

tc05
04-15-2005, 12:31 PM
What is this darn carbon filter i keep hearing about in the stock air box? Am i going to have to take this off or leave it in i have no idea on how it looks? If i take it off will it make my CEL come on? just wondering because i get my intake today and dont wnat to have to stop in the middle of teh install because i have no idea what in the word that is or if i need to take it off or leave it in thanks for your help

GerryWhite
04-15-2005, 12:59 PM
What is this darn carbon filter i keep hearing about in the stock air box? Am i going to have to take this off or leave it in i have no idea on how it looks? If i take it off will it make my CEL come on? just wondering because i get my intake today and dont wnat to have to stop in the middle of teh install because i have no idea what in the word that is or if i need to take it off or leave it in thanks for your help
Check out this page on the K&N website. There's a link to a great PDF file that shows complete installation instructions for the Scion tC. This is for the blue one I ordered - change the TB at the end to TS to see the silver one.

http://www.knfilterchargers.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-8607TB

tc05
04-15-2005, 01:20 PM
Thanks seems like alot but i have nothing better to do than install my intake today im off work and its going to be a nice 60 degree day her in chicago

GerryWhite
04-15-2005, 02:33 PM
Thanks seems like alot but i have nothing better to do than install my intake today im off work and its going to be a nice 60 degree day her in chicago
Good luck! Take photos, if you can, as you go so we can see how hard the work is. :lalala:

tc05
04-15-2005, 02:38 PM
Of course an ill probaly be video taping the whole thing also better than pictures i belive and of ocurse the road test :eyebrow:

GerryWhite
04-15-2005, 02:51 PM
Of course an ill probaly be video taping the whole thing also better than pictures i belive and of ocurse the road test :eyebrow:
Try getting some audio before and after, too. I'm curious as to the sound difference.
Enjoy! Make us proud!!!

tc05
04-15-2005, 02:57 PM
That was the plan, and i will also do a test on if it saves money on gas i know you were nterested in knowing about that, ill et you know the outcome see if i gained or lost MPG i will try see TRY and drive under normal conditions no lead footing :doh:

GerryWhite
04-15-2005, 03:05 PM
i will try see TRY and drive under normal conditions no lead footing :doh:
Yeah -- and pigs fly... just like I do... ROFLMAO!!! :pray:

tc05
04-17-2005, 03:26 PM
I can do it :P

TheBlade
04-17-2005, 03:35 PM
http://www.myfruityimage.com/uploads/11b6cf505a.jpg (http://www.myfruityimage.com/)

I dont think there's enough room for the filter if you converted it to a short ram...but when the rain starts pouring this July looks like I'll have to try

tc05
04-18-2005, 10:32 PM
ok people almost starting on the install of my intake i called around to many techs and they all told me the same thing That it is a bad idea to heat wrap the intake, i called around about this issue because i read some where about heat soaking, so i did call around and they gave me the technical mumbo jumbo about it but overall they alll told me taht the intake dispurses away the heat away from the pipe by itself. and that putting the heat wrap around it may cause even more heat in the pipe because the air coming into it does not have a chance to release the heat. thus the heat wrap will actually enclose the outcoming heat and make it even hotter. i called K&N of course and called vividracing, creativecompacts hopupracing and summit racing and they all told me the same thing, just want to know your opinion and if anybody else with the intake has heat wrap, or not. does the car run better with it. Or if you have no heat wrap do you feel any sluggishness Thanks

TheBlade
04-18-2005, 10:36 PM
No Heatwrap, no sluggishness, not even in Phoenix AZ

cla9614
04-19-2005, 03:36 AM
Fair warning this site is OUT of the K&N Intakes

:no: http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/ :no:

I ordered my intake from them on 15 Apr. Then I got a series of 3 emails over the weekend. The first thanked me for my order. The second told me that they wouldn't support 2 day delivery on performance parts. Then lastly they told me that the intake was back ordered, and I would have to check back in a couple of weeks. From good - to bad - to downright ugly!! I was so ____ed because I was looking forward to tomorrow. Well, if any of you guys want to tell me where to get the cold air intake, let me know. But stay away from those shiesty fools!!! I'm lucky I didn't get charged on my credit card. But I will inform them tomorrow NOT to fulfill my order!! I want to get my intake from a reputible dealer, without hassles or horror stories.

EDIT:

These guys have the part in stock, and I should receive the part tomorrow!!! WooT !!

:bow: http://www.4filters.com/merchant/merchant.mvc? :bow:

tc05
04-20-2005, 02:07 AM
ok got the darn intake on what a pin to get the bottom pipe aligned talk about needing more in depth instructions, plus i have one question did u have a whistle sound when you put yours on when you hit 3k or when at shifting points? is this normal or do i have an intake leak? And why are people so worried about hydrolock the damn filter gets covered up by the wheel weel plastic, or did i forget to keep it off :doh:

MikeJ
04-21-2005, 01:37 PM
Well I should get mine on tuesday and when I do I will try the Short-Ram first to see if it can be done. I will take pictures of it to show if it works or if it does not and let everyone know why.

cla9614
04-21-2005, 02:54 PM
I got mines yesterday and installed it!!!!

Ohhhh Goodie-Gumdrops Turkish !!!

tc05
04-28-2005, 02:44 AM
okay one question how much play do you guys get in your inatke? i seemed to have tighten up the bolts pretty tightly but i can still wiggle the intake around not to the extreme where i hear bolts clinging or anything like that just some play im guessing thats good because if it was stiff you would end up breaking the brackets due to the motor movements and high throttles just give me your feedback thanx in advance

WaterDragon
04-28-2005, 05:05 AM
okay.... didn't even know about this thread! :lalala:

let me try to answer some questions... I'm nowhere near an expert, but I know a little

the whistle sound is normal for CAI's... it only took the K&N tech about half an hour to install mine... VERY little play with moving the pipe around... the guys from K&N personally told me (while installing my Typhoon) that the Typhoon for the tC is ONLY a CAI, not a CCA or a SR... the intake is street legal in states other that CA... the filter sits right behind the driver's side air dam in the lower bumper (I keep forgetting to take a pic while my bumper is off)... I'ce heard of the CEL coming on in tC's because of the Typhoon, but has never happened to me... you don't need to worry about the carbon filter in the airbox because you completely take out the stock airbox... sounds great... I drive harder now than before the CAI, but I'm still averaging 5mpg better that w/o the intake... I've heard of a couple of people's Typhoons breaking the mounting bracket

I think that's all of them... did I miss any questions????

WaterDragon
04-28-2005, 05:08 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/TranquilWater/DSC07952-vi.jpg

Bluechualappa
04-29-2005, 08:24 PM
Thats very pretty! 1 question though and don't flame me... Is it still on backorder? I heard up there ^^^^^ that it wasnt?

BTW does anyone have a picture of the aluminum intake?

WaterDragon
04-30-2005, 11:44 PM
I honestly don't know personally if it's on back order or not... search the web, you'll probably find somewhere selling it

what do you mean by "the aluminum intake"?

Bluechualappa
04-30-2005, 11:49 PM
The different finishes it comes in... I have yet to see a picture of the polished aluminim intake for the tC!

WaterDragon
05-01-2005, 05:10 AM
Oh, okay.... um, let me see if anyone in SoCal tC has a pic of one

bubblemyster
05-01-2005, 05:38 AM
can you use this intake with an sc or turbo?

hahaitzskippy
05-01-2005, 05:45 AM
no