ANyone might know what kind/type of oil Jiffy Lube uses? ..I have thought about using them after my 3 oil changes for my XB...Or should not?

You have your choice of a few different types. Of course it costs wayy more for synthetic. Just ask. you can watch...they do use brand name stuff.

I think he meant what bulk oil they use with the standard service. I believe it's Mobil but don't quote me on that. Suby's right, they will use bottled oil but at a premium price. When I used to go to them (before I had my tC), I always had them use Quaker State and it cost me like $5 extra.

90% of Jiffy Lubes have contracts with Penzoil ... Just ask them what is in their bulk tank. If anything buy the oil off the shelf it might be a little more but you know what you are getting.

I used to go to a place here in town called Lube Express for years, at a cost of about $32.00 Then one day as I was paying with my check card (as I always did) they mentioned tha there was a $1.00 processing fee added to my bill. Thinking it was something new I didn't say anything. I looked at my previous bills and for the past year they have been charging me $1.00 extra.

Long story short - Wal-Mart uses Pennzoil and they charge $13.87 :)

****ATTENTION AND PLEASE READ MY TESTIMONIAL***

I have a "97" ford Taurus..when i got my car about a 1 1/2 ago i didnt know any thing about cars. So when it came to oil changes i went with a name i knew.. Jiffy Lube. Everything was fine for 2 or 3 changes and then i got my car serviced before a long trip. I packed my car and headed out 3 days after my oil change. Needless to say 10 miles into my trip on the highway my car starts smoking out the back...praying that it is just going to go away i keep driving but slower! Then smoke starts to fill my car and now i thinking i'm going to explode or something!!!

I pull over and check everything not thinking it was the oil change since well my car is old and its a Ford!! :rofl: I see no leaks or anything hanging broken nothing :doh: . Finally i check the oil for kicks and notice it is RED...yes people i said RED :tap: . Now i know oil is black and i know that is not good and call me step father who could believe that they put tranny fluid in my oil tank!!!

Once it cooled down some and stopped smoking i drove it over to Jiffy Lube steaming as much as my car was :flame: . Told them my story and had it flushed and reinserted with new OIL morons. It gets better :crazy:

2 weeks rolled by and now my check engine light comes on and i had the car for about 6 months with about 100k and no engine light previous this sh*t. Turns out my CAT converters (2) are shot, my O2 sensors are shot and my engine still smells like its burning left over oil ....come to find out the my oil pan gasket was blowen too.

:cry: :cry: Jiffy Lube :gun:

called corporate offices to get mess fixed which was a battle since they wanted to make sure that this caused my problems :flame: :gun:
That took 2 to 3 weeks and then finally sent me a check and had to pay about $2500 to fix everything!!!!!! :shock: :crazy:

Now i do my own oil changes as you can understand and i have heard dozens other horror stories and will NEVER go back

Surprisingly the car 1 year since has run very well now with 125k on it but i figured i deserve a good and sporty car. Otherwise the Ford has run extremely well after that hell. Kind of sad to see it go!! But TC here i come....Jiffy Lube don't even look at my car :loser:

Consider this my warning all.....do it yourself or have the dealer do it

:lol: :lol: :lol:

So let me get this straight.

Jiffy Lube put tranny fluid in your engine!

:lol: Gotta stop, my ribs hurt.

Are you sure it wasn't the coloring in that Pennzoil crap? I don't like their stuff.

When i worked at a Jeep dealer, we had a lady come in for some work. The tech noticed that the dipstick was missing. We asked the lady about it, she said she had literally just come from Jippy Lube. We call them up and tell them they better bring her dipstick down ASAP. A little bit later, here comes the lube shop lackey with, I kid you not, a handful of 8-10 dipsticks. They had obviously done this more than once and they couldn't tell which one was hers. The tech picked it out of the handful and we just stood there flabbergasted.

I was badly in need of getting the oil changed in my old toyota P/U, so I ignored my better judgement and went to WalMart since they were the only once open that late. Got the truck back, drove home and as I slowed to enter my driveway, I see a bunch of smoke rise up around the front of the car. I get out and theres a puddle of oil in the gutter and smoke coming off the exhaust pipe up near the engine. Took it to the local guys the next day. The high-paid geniuses at WalMart used a oil filter wrench to put the filter ON!!! It had punched a hole in the side and the oil was leaking out and pooling up in the frame rail and when I slowed, it all ran forward and flowed onto the exhaust. I had even looked under the car (standard practice) and saw no leaks, but that's cuz it was pooling up above. The local lube place replaced the filter, topped off the oil and cleaned off the spilled oil, AT NO CHARGE TO ME, and it wasn't even their mistake. Needless to say, I take all my cars there now. Even tho i trust them, I still listen to them do their checklist and make sure everything is back in place.

There's a reason these places can charge less - cheaper, less skilled labor... BEWARE!!!

Places like Jiffy Lube generally tighten the drain bolt to about 150 ft-lbs. Do your own oil changes or take it to the dealer.

The Jiffy Lube store that i took it took actually admitted that they made the mistake and that i was not the only car.....Apparently a MANAGER put the wrong top on a tranny barrel....since high mileage oil and tranny oil come in a yellow barrel no one read the damn barrel just the top and it said high mile oil.....needless to say 10-20 cars got crapped on the day too.. Their addmittance was key to my getting money from them too!!!

The Jiffy Lube store that i took it took actually admitted that they made the mistake and that i was not the only car.....Apparently a MANAGER put the wrong top on a tranny barrel....since high mileage oil and tranny oil come in a yellow barrel no one read the damn barrel just the top and it said high mile oil.....needless to say 10-20 cars got crapped on the day too.. Their addmittance was key to my getting money from them too!!!Okay, here's the part I don't get. When you go to a Jiffy Lube, they put you in their database. They have your name, address, phone number and car info. As soon as they realized what they did with that barrel mixup, they should have called you and everyone who got that "oil" that day.

I don't think they wanted to deal with it until it was a problem or they didnt know and i was the first person that told them after 3 days of potential victims!!! Remember i had it like that for 3 days before i even knew because you engine can run off of the tranny fluid under small doses but i was cruising on the highway at 85-90 for good 10-20 minutes before problems happened...i am assuming and hoping they alerted other people!!

i wouldn't waste my time at any of those jiffy lubes, uncle ed's or any of those places.. i would take it to the dealer, it's under warranty, at least if they screw it up, you can talk to scion about it.. and have some sort of recourse.. and yes the comment about the over tightening of the oil plug, you can guarantee it! don't take it there, take it to a decent dealer.

Yeah the dealer or doing it yourself is the best way to go!!!
The quick lube, jiffy lube, crap places don't care about your car....quick in and quick out to get more money thats all!!!

Bulk oil is crap!. Even if you use a Jiffy Lube bring your own oil and filter and watch them do it..That is what I do sometimes

Oil is oil, Jiffy does use Penzoil. You could use Cheap oil from the local parts store, as long as you change it regularly you should be fine. Mistakes could happen anywhere even at the dealer. I personally don't like taking my cars there since it could be the same guy that just got fired from Jiffy Lube. Incase there is a mistake, you want to be somewhere that will take care of the problem. I use to put tranny oil in my motor to flush it prior to every other oil change in my GSX. Just add 1qt with the old oil, run it for a couple minutes & then change it. My oil always had that nice golden color.

In my area Jiffy lube does good work but once in a while they screw up. When my parents used to own a Infiniti q45 they took it to jiffy lube for an oil change. And we got that oil change. But when we got the car back the engine light was on. Before taking it in it wasn't on. They refused to take responsibility for their actions. It turns out that while they were changing the oil, one of the mechanics dropped a tool down the engine somewhere and it hit a switch. So we took the car to the dealer to get the light out and cost us 89 dollars. But that was the only problem we have had. Other than that they like to call my mom's murano and dad's highlander "Exotic" vehicles and charge us 35 for an oil change and car wash. So we now take it down the street to another place and get an oil change and car wash for 25. I wonder what they call a lexus.

Once my three free oil changes are up I plan on doing my oil changes by myself. Its not hard anyway. One question though - where is the oil filter at on the Tc....I haven't taken the time to look for it yet.

You have to be careful no matter where you go to get the oil change done. A friend took his Tacoma to the local dealer and got home before he checked the oil himself. None showed on the dipstick. He removed the drainplug and 1-1/2 quarts of oil came out. He called the service manager and was told "Oh, the dial on the dispenser must have slipped again." Again! :roll:

He goes to an independent mechanic now. When I went in for my 3 free oil changes the mechanic was annoyed that I checked the oil myself before driving off, but if they take such a laid-back attitude toward potential engine damage you have to check it yourself!

George

Oil is oil, Jiffy does use Penzoil. You could use Cheap oil from the local parts store, as long as you change it regularly you should be fine. Mistakes could happen anywhere even at the dealer. I personally don't like taking my cars there since it could be the same guy that just got fired from Jiffy Lube. Incase there is a mistake, you want to be somewhere that will take care of the problem. I use to put tranny oil in my motor to flush it prior to every other oil change in my GSX. Just add 1qt with the old oil, run it for a couple minutes & then change it. My oil always had that nice golden color.
Now that is a foolish statement since there is tons of info stating your position is wrong..and none backing it up....I owned a GSX with a 20g and no way would I have trusted it to Dino oil :no:

I use regular oil in mine with no worries. I change it regularly and use Toyota filters. So do millions of other people with excellent results. Use the oil quality and weight recommended in the owners manual and change it at least as often as recommended in the maintainance schedule and you will be able to find something else to devote your worrying time to. :nails: :rofl:

I use regular oil in mine with no worries. I change it regularly and use Toyota filters. So do millions of other people with excellent results. Use the oil quality and weight recommended in the owners manual and change it at least as often as recommended in the maintainance schedule and you will be able to find something else to devote your worrying time to. :nails: :rofl:
who says I worry :no: Still oil is not oil....just because lots of people do something for years doesn't mean there is not a better....of course ignorance is bliss :clap:

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Now that is a foolish statement since there is tons of info stating your position is wrong..and none backing it up....I owned a GSX with a 20g and no way would I have trusted it to Dino oil :no:[/quote]


If you change your oil when you are supposed to, there won't be any problems with your engine lubrication no matter what oil is in there. Yes, times are changing & the technology is better than before. But I belive all vehicle manuals (expect for some like new mercedes, Vetts, Viper since they need to be synthetic, but even then they just recommend the brand) just indicate which type of oil to put in, not what BRAND, also any the Dino regular oil is processed the same way as the Mobil 1 regular oil. They all need to meet certain standards.

But then again thats why americans are described as the Perfect Consumer

I use regular oil in mine with no worries. I change it regularly and use Toyota filters. So do millions of other people with excellent results. Use the oil quality and weight recommended in the owners manual and change it at least as often as recommended in the maintainance schedule and you will be able to find something else to devote your worrying time to. :nails: :rofl:
who says I worry :no: Still oil is not oil....just because lots of people do something for years doesn't mean there is not a better....of course ignorance is bliss :clap:If the cars engine outlasts the rest of the car what have you accomplished by supposedly making it last even longer? When it comes to Toyotas and their maintainance, ignorance does not factor into this equation, as this is what I do for a living and some have even suggested I do it well. :rofl: I will swear to you on my life, if you follow the recommended maintainance schedule to the letter, oil related problems are the least of your worries (if you worry, that is!) Moral of this story: Don't fall prey to hype and million dollar advertizing campaigns designed to get your money without delivering any real tangible benifits other than percieved. :lalala:

Motors today are NOT your old conventional motor...neither should your oil. Synthetics are the way to go.

My philosophy: Change your mind - Not your oil!

You sound like a commercial! :rofl: Synthetics are fine and do work well but are not necessary in a Scion. I am not a fan of extended drain intervals for so many reasons. All said and done, it's cheaper to do it the conventional way.

...I use to put tranny oil in my motor to flush it prior to every other oil change in my GSX. Just add 1qt with the old oil, run it for a couple minutes & then change it. My oil always had that nice golden color.

I'm not so sure that this is something that I'd want to try. I'd just assume take it the have it power flushed every 20,000 miles or so. Scott, your thoughts?

Trans fluid is very high detergent oil and will clean well. A quart before an oil change won't hurt.

You sound like a commercial! :rofl: Synthetics are fine and do work well but are not necessary in a Scion. I am not a fan of extended drain intervals for so many reasons. All said and done, it's cheaper to do it the conventional way.

You may think I'm funny, but I've got the best protection for my investment in my xB (though, as you and I will BOTH agree, is a SMALL investment.) I didn't say synthetics WERE necessary in a Scion. Also, what are your reasons for NOT being a fan? And, is it cheaper? Show me.

Hi,

Just some extra 2 cents on this topic....

DO be aware if you have an extended warranty/service contract, at home oil changes are very hard to document to the satisfaction of the warranty company if your engine seizes up or throws a rod during your coverage period. You MUST have meticulous records with receipts and any other supporting evidence. Jiffy lube with their computerized database should be able to reprint your records in case you dont have copies of everything.

READ your extended warranty paperwork and verify what they will accept for supporting evidence.

DO I need an extended warranty ?? For the past several cars/vans I have owned I have never failed to cover my costs of the contracts as the vehicles approached the 100,000 mile mark; no matter the make of vehicle.



On the tranny fluid topic.... it used to be pretty common for muscle car owners to pour in a quart of tranny fluid before an oil change because it acts as a solvent for sludge and what not. BUT do not leave it in too long or it will turn into a gooey varnish like "paste" inside your engine.


Dave

You sound like a commercial! :rofl: Synthetics are fine and do work well but are not necessary in a Scion. I am not a fan of extended drain intervals for so many reasons. All said and done, it's cheaper to do it the conventional way.

You may think I'm funny, but I've got the best protection for my investment in my xB (though, as you and I will BOTH agree, is a SMALL investment.) I didn't say synthetics WERE necessary in a Scion. Also, what are your reasons for NOT being a fan? And, is it cheaper? Show me. It's definately cheaper if you don't buy it! :rofl: In my experience, if you change your oil regularly and maintain your car, engine wear won't ever confront you. I haven't seen too many well maintained Toyotas with worn out engines or any other oil related wear. If you follow the recommended maintainance scedule, and use oil of the proper quality (the API and SAE take the time to rate these), engine wear is a non-issue. It's like hanging a picture on the wall. If a tack hammer will drive the little finishing nail well, would we be better served using a sledgehammer? Some would argue the point! :rofl: I would say the sledgehammer costs more, is unnecessary and could cause other problems (like seal leakage in cars using synthetic oil), and some would just say it sure pounds nails faster! The extended drain intervals suggested by some cause some concern also. The oil may indeed be fine but what about the byproducts of combustion that find their way into it? Acids form and what removes these? If you go 15k without changing your oil, wouldn't it be easy to forget? Just doesn't add up to anything really worthwhile to me.

Hi,

Generally speaking, synthetics DO a better job of lubricating and sticking to wear surfaces. That is essentially why you dont see jet aircraft runing anythign BUT synthetics, beyond the far superior flow rate temperatures ans the like.

Extended drain intervals is another issue that has been discussed for years. The main point I remember reading back in 1985 when I first was introduced to synthetics, was that you STILL need to change your filter every 3000 to 4000 miles and there by replacing roughly 1 qt of the oil (this was with older Chevy full size filters that held about 1 qt), so in effect you changed your oil over ther course of say 10,000 miles.

Beyond that, most Extended warranty companies will laff at you if you say you used a synthetic and didnt change your oil evey 3000 miles or so, but did 15,000 mile changes.

If you live in a warm climate like we do in Florida, cold temperature pourability is not an issue; which is where much engine damage can be done, when you crank an engine with almost goo for oil because of the ambient temperature.

The real question these days is WHY is synthetic still so pricey ?? I cant imagine the ingredients are that much more expensive than conventional oil.

I would use a synthetic more often if then prices were in line with conventional oils; and like was mentioned, if you change your oil regularly with almost anything that isnt total crap oil, you will liekly never have an engine issue caused by bad oil.

Also the seal leakage is old news stuff....the problem was that people were putting synthetics into high mileage engines where leaks had been plugged by the build up of goo/crap. The synthetics dissolved the goo, as they are known to do, and you are left with leaks. NOT at all caused by the synthetic, but because of their superior cleansing abilities and a previoulsy crapped up engine.


Dave

Ah, the Oil Wars never end...

All oil is made to meet a SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) specification. None of the oil manufacturers is going to spend a cent making their oil better than the specification. They may spend millions trying to convince us that their oil is better, but it really isn't. Most cars are built to use oil of the SAE specification and they will have satisfactory life on this oil if it is changed at the specified intervals.

Now, that's not to say that the refiners can't do better, and they do with synthetic oil. When synthetic oil is made, the characteristics can be better controlled, albeit at increased cost. Don't expect miracles, though,

The purpose of oil is to maintain a liquid film between metal surfaces. As long as this film is maintained it makes little difference whether the oil is conventional or synthetic. The place where synthetic shines is that it maintains its ability to create the oil film over a wider range of temperatures and for a longer life span. If you live in a climate that is neither very hot or very cold and change your oil frequently you will have no problem with conventional oil. If your usage pushes one or more of these limits you might have better luck with synthetics.

For my Scion, I use synthetic and change oil and filter at 7500 mile intervals. Synthetic may be overkill, but I am assured that lubrication will still be good as the mileage gets near 7500. For my aircooled VWs, which don't have oil filters, I change oil every 2000 miles, so using synthetic would be throwing money away as I don't need long life.

Good point about the aircraft. Just so happens my last job was with Delta Airlines as an A&P in overhaul at the tech ops. center in Atlanta. Aircraft use synthetic oil because of the temperature extremes they encounter daily. Interestingly enough, in the RB211 engines of an L1011, we NEVER changed the oil. It was checked on trips and chip detectors inspected at B-checks, but never really changed. As for better lubrication; possibly but that goes back to the original question, If conventional oil is perfectly adequate, is more really better? If they were the same price, I would use either that was handy. As for the seal issue, seals are designed for one type of oil or another. We still have this problem nowadays, mostly with truck rear ends. They have actually changed over to synthetic and subsequently revised the seals used. New engines probably won't leak but as the engine seals age and lip tension lessens, leaks do happen. If you were to change synthetic oil at a semi-normal interval, I see no problem with it, but some companies claims are a little far-fetched. Modern conventional oils are so much better than they ever were, it comes down to how much do you want to spend?

Ah, the Oil Wars never end...

All oil is made to meet a SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) specification. None of the oil manufacturers is going to spend a cent making their oil better than the specification. They may spend millions trying to convince us that their oil is better, but it really isn't. Most cars are built to use oil of the SAE specification and they will have satisfactory life on this oil if it is changed at the specified intervals.

Now, that's not to say that the refiners can't do better, and they do with synthetic oil. When synthetic oil is made, the characteristics can be better controlled, albeit at increased cost. Don't expect miracles, though,

The purpose of oil is to maintain a liquid film between metal surfaces. As long as this film is maintained it makes little difference whether the oil is conventional or synthetic. The place where synthetic shines is that it maintains its ability to create the oil film over a wider range of temperatures and for a longer life span. If you live in a climate that is neither very hot or very cold and change your oil frequently you will have no problem with conventional oil. If your usage pushes one or more of these limits you might have better luck with synthetics.

For my Scion, I use synthetic and change oil and filter at 7500 mile intervals. Synthetic may be overkill, but I am assured that lubrication will still be good as the mileage gets near 7500. For my aircooled VWs, which don't have oil filters, I change oil every 2000 miles, so using synthetic would be throwing money away as I don't need long life.I agree with this too.

Interestingly enough, in the RB211 engines of an L1011, we NEVER changed the oil.

Ah, the L-1011! I was a design engineer on that program in the early '80s!

Turbine engines don't have the same blow-by issues as piston engines, so the oil tends to stay cleaner. Since the maintainance of these engines is very regular it is logical to rely on the chip detectors and oil analysis to detect problems.

None of this applies to piston engines. The cost of oil analysis would be more than the cost of simply changing the oil, so we just change the oil.

George

Yep, I remember when I started as a newb at Delta I didn't know ____e from shinola. After completing an L1011 overhaul I was asked if I wanted to go on a checkride with them. Hell yeah! I said. I was scared as a little girl after the basics were checked out and the pilot had some fun. Empty with 20k lbs. of fuel thos mothers HAUL! I never knew what they were capable of. Fond memories. Now as for the airframe, give me Boeing anyday! :rofl:

Yeah I got a ride with the company flight test pilot on a brand-new Alia airlines Tristar. There weren't even any passenger seats in the plane so I rode in the jumpseat behind the flight crew. I spent most of the flight crawling around the cabin checking for floorboard interference as the fuselage flexed during maneuvers. Such fun!

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I do not recommend Jiffy Lube at all to anyone. back when i had my firebird i used to go there all the time. that is until the time they only put in one quart of oil in my car. good thing i had a gut feeling to check the oil. what morons.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You just used "quality" and "Jiffy Lube" in the same sentence

:rofl:

What kind of oil do they use? No oil, because they usually don't even do what you pay for anyway :rofl:

Honestly, I'm not even exaggerating. Talk to people who once worked for JL and had the wisdom to get the hell out. They can tell you plenty of horror stories...

Jiffy lube sux IMO. I took my TC there for the 3rd oil change, (needed it in a rush and couldn't wait for Toyota to do it) and as I roll up the grease monkey comes out and asks what oil I want to put in it. I told him 10w30 and he looks at me and says "you want to put REGULAR oil in THAT???" I asked him what he recommended and he said full synthetic and that was the only kind he would put in there. I told him I would go somewhere else if he didn't put in 10w30 and he told me he wouldn't be responsible for any warranty issues for using the wrong oil.

Jiffy lube sux IMO. I took my TC there for the 3rd oil change, (needed it in a rush and couldn't wait for Toyota to do it) and as I roll up the grease monkey comes out and asks what oil I want to put in it. I told him 10w30 and he looks at me and says "you want to put REGULAR oil in THAT???" I asked him what he recommended and he said full synthetic and that was the only kind he would put in there. I told him I would go somewhere else if he didn't put in 10w30 and he told me he wouldn't be responsible for any warranty issues for using the wrong oil.

Shouldn't you be using 5w30?

And chances are, he just dropped some 10w30... or 20w30... those guys don't really look.

Heck, its commonplace in Jiffy Lube to pump out your existing oil, run it through some machine, then pump it back into the engine.

Jiffy lube sux IMO. I took my TC there for the 3rd oil change, (needed it in a rush and couldn't wait for Toyota to do it) and as I roll up the grease monkey comes out and asks what oil I want to put in it. I told him 10w30 and he looks at me and says "you want to put REGULAR oil in THAT???" I asked him what he recommended and he said full synthetic and that was the only kind he would put in there. I told him I would go somewhere else if he didn't put in 10w30 and he told me he wouldn't be responsible for any warranty issues for using the wrong oil.

Shouldn't you be using 5w30?

And chances are, he just dropped some 10w30... or 20w30... those guys don't really look.

Heck, its commonplace in Jiffy Lube to pump out your existing oil, run it through some machine, then pump it back into the engine.

The manual showed 10w30 as being ok so that's what I assume should go in it. My point in my previous post was that the JL guy wanted to upsale me to synthetic and then tried to scare me about using anything other than synthetic. Obvs he didn't know crap about scions.

Jiffy lube sux IMO. I took my TC there for the 3rd oil change, (needed it in a rush and couldn't wait for Toyota to do it) and as I roll up the grease monkey comes out and asks what oil I want to put in it. I told him 10w30 and he looks at me and says "you want to put REGULAR oil in THAT???" I asked him what he recommended and he said full synthetic and that was the only kind he would put in there. I told him I would go somewhere else if he didn't put in 10w30 and he told me he wouldn't be responsible for any warranty issues for using the wrong oil.

Shouldn't you be using 5w30?

And chances are, he just dropped some 10w30... or 20w30... those guys don't really look.

Heck, its commonplace in Jiffy Lube to pump out your existing oil, run it through some machine, then pump it back into the engine.

The manual showed 10w30 as being ok so that's what I assume should go in it. My point in my previous post was that the JL guy wanted to upsale me to synthetic and then tried to scare me about using anything other than synthetic. Obvs he didn't know crap about scions.

Gotcha. Chances are he would've said that to anyone with a new-ish car.

I'm also pretty sure he tried to trick you solely because you are a female. :tap:

...I use to put tranny oil in my motor to flush it prior to every other oil change in my GSX. Just add 1qt with the old oil, run it for a couple minutes & then change it. My oil always had that nice golden color.

I'm not so sure that this is something that I'd want to try. I'd just assume take it the have it power flushed every 20,000 miles or so. Scott, your thoughts?

"Power flush" is a ripoff. For that matter, anything that purports to clean deposits from your oil is a ripoff. For argument's sake, let's say that there are grunge-filled deposits clinging to the inside of your engines. If you do nothing, what will happen? They'll stay right where they are! Let's say you flush them loose somehow. In that case they will start to circulate with the oil. If they go through the pump they'll be caught in the filter. If they are already downstream of the filter, the grunge you broke loose goes right through your bearings, the last place you want them to be! Bad News!

Change your oil regularly and you won't have any buildup problems.

the only things that really need occasional flushing are the transmission and radiator/cooling system...

Do it yourseld man and get to know your ride.