I used the search and came up with nothing so if this is a repost I am sorry...

Does anyone know of a company that has designed or is going to design a 6-speed for the tC?

i doubt it

i doubt it

What about the 6-speed the Celica GT-S uses?

Please Toyota give us a 6-speed :pray:

could you mate that to the camry engine we use? to bad the camry doesn't have a 6 - speed (although.. I'm not sure why it would)

im sure if you droped there 1.8l engine in it would work with that trany but i dont think you can just pair up the 2.4l we have with there tranny

and i just checked the matrix its another 1.8l

lets work on getting the 4wd off the rav4 on our tc's that would either be realy cool or make the car handle funny some one should try it

I personally think that would be bad a$$... I would be all for it.... someone lead the way

even permanent 4wd (awd) from the rav4 would be cool... it would give great traction

Yeah the Rav4 AWD system paired with the Stage II Scionspeed. Can anyone say Evo Killer. :D

i dont know about evo killer once you get all that friction from awd your going to loose power

We can dream can't we? :lol: Fine step it up to ScionSpeed Stage III with some other upgrades. Ah screw I'll just buy the Evo.

We can dream can't we? :lol: Fine step it up to ScionSpeed Stage III with some other upgrades. Ah screw I'll just buy the Evo.

lol i guess thats the cheap fast way of doing it

evo is a rocket straight from the box.

evo is a rocket straight from the box.

yeah i know one of my buddys has one and the MR is even better lsd's all around and an extra 5hp (not mutch but the lsd's are where its at)

Yeah the MR is crazy fast, the only factory 4-banger that'll hang with a Ferrari. What is it 4.6 0-60? Damn that's fast.

I think the tC 5 speed is geared well enought to not need a 6 speed. It would only be good for lower reving while highway cruzing above 80mph. But the way it is now, you dont' need to downshift to pass people.

The main reason I'd go with a 6th gear is too decrease the cruising RPM's at 75 -80mph. It would be nice to have the car at a stable 2500-3000 RPM's instead of 4000. But the number one reason would have to be so that when we do eventually get one of these turbo kits, the 6th gear would up our top speed (pending limiter removal) without needing a total re-gearing of our stock 5-speeds. Basically it would be great to have the option. Isn't that what Scion's all about, options?

...without needing a total re-gearing of our stock 5-speeds...
:lol:
So instead of regearing the 5 speed, you want to do a whole tranny swap!
I guess my problem is the only 6 speeds i've driven, Nissan SE-R Spec-V and Acura RSX Type S, did not seem to need or take advantage of the 6 speed. Not enough power, I guess.

My old Evo was hella quick, it'll take quite a bit of work to a tC to even hang with an Evo, let alone beat it. (And I'm not talking just drag racing!)

...without needing a total re-gearing of our stock 5-speeds...
:lol:
So instead of regearing the 5 speed, you want to do a whole tranny swap!
I guess my problem is the only 6 speeds i've driven, Nissan SE-R Spec-V and Acura RSX Type S, did not seem to need or take advantage of the 6 speed. Not enough power, I guess.

Why is swapping a tranny funny? Someone explain this to me. Obviously I missed the punchline. :crazy:

It may not be the cheaper way to go but it's definitely quicker and takes less experience. I prefer not to disassemble my tranny and would rather swap, it's just easier. Plus then I'd have a spare.

Why does a car necessarily need to be powerful to benefit from a 6th gear? A 6th gear by definition is a 2nd Overdrive gear and really has no purpose in racing (unless you have the power). The Celica GT-S, SE-R SpecV and RSX Type-S are all not very powerful but the have them.

Good point about having the spare. And I dont' have the tech experience to do either, so I would much rather pay someone to swap for a 6 speed rather then have them remap my gearing.

And yes, I guess it does rev a little high when cruzing at 85 (but no more then my old Integra) My problem is that when I drove the SE-R SpecV and the RSX Typse-S, I had do downshift in order to get the power to pass quickly. The Type-S had to downshift 2 gears! Damn that lack of torque...DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!

I love downshifting! The roar of the engine when you go to pass, ugh, ugh, ugh. Ah the fun of manuals. Loving it.

just swap out the 5th gear wit ha gear from the camry, that will definitly change the final drive and allow you to go faster.

^ but once you get in to 5th gear it would accelerate slower

6-speed would be cool. Someone's gotta do it.

-Z

Is there any way that a 6-speed from a Supra would work? That was an awesome transmission.

There's also the 6-speed's from the Celica GT-S and MR2 Spyder. Maybe an adapter plate could be made to mate our 2.4L to one of the before-mentioned 6-speeds.

i doubt it but maybe toyota will listen to the multiple threads about wanting a 6 speed and then do something about it like sell it labeld as a trd part so we can all go pick one up

All it would take is a custom bellhousing and axles to mate the Celica 6-speed.... but would the cost and effort be worth it? That is answered by counting the number of six-speed tCs that you've seen. :)

It just seems like too much of a hassle for me. I dont' have that kinda money. I don't mind saving up for a Turbo, but I can't justify saving all that money for a new tranny considering how much I like the stock 5 speed. Of course, I'm assuming this would cost a couple grand. Any price estimates?

how does an arm and a leg sound?

how does an arm and a leg sound?
Sounds like it'd be hard to shift without either, no matter how many gears you have!

how does an arm and a leg sound?
Sounds like it'd be hard to shift without either, no matter how many gears you have!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

My old Evo was hella quick, it'll take quite a bit of work to a tC to even hang with an Evo, let alone beat it. (And I'm not talking just drag racing!)


Evos are fast from a stop, but when they are rolling they are not very quick, srt-4's can stay right with an evo when rolling, im thinking with the right turbo and some extras we will be right there with an evo/sti

I know this is an old thread - but I think that the tC could definitely benefit from a 6-speed transmission. You can even get a Tiburon with a 6-speed...........

I am researching changing the final drive to the Camry gearing, I have the microfiche files for it and an our car to compare part numbers, etc. It seems it would work, need the output shaft/gear and the ring gear, all I can determine so far.

As for a 6 spd, nothing in the US will swap out directly, the XRs Matrix, GTS tranny would not last long even if it fit, not beefy enough for our "big block imports" lol :)

There seems to be a 6 spd that will bolt in but not sold here.

We are very much considering an AWD conversion once we have done all we can with the stock drivetrain.



Rick

My old Evo was hella quick, it'll take quite a bit of work to a tC to even hang with an Evo, let alone beat it. (And I'm not talking just drag racing!)


Evos are fast from a stop, but when they are rolling they are not very quick, srt-4's can stay right with an evo when rolling, im thinking with the right turbo and some extras we will be right there with an evo/sti

SRTs are quick on the highway, but now way will it EVER take an Evo on a road race course. The Evo handles and brakes very well, and has so much traction coming out of a corner it's scary. Yeah the SRT can go straight and accelerate faster once they're up to speed, but that's not a true race.

Why would you want to switch to camry gearing?

To go faster:)

Of course that will require a workaround to cure the low speed governor built into the ECU;)

Rick

i dont know about evo killer once you get all that friction from awd your going to loose power

:rofl:

That's the only thing I wish they would've done differently with the tC. I hate cruising at 4000rpm at 80mph... no matter how easy it is to pass people. I'd rather have to downshift and save gas.

shift up = upshift

No biggy.

We have been researching this for awhile and have found a tranny with a lsd that will bolt to the 2AZ block. We will be testing this new theroy within the next couple weeks but if all works correctly we should be able to offer a 6spd lsd conversion for under 2k. This is obvioulsy not set in stone as we have not even got it to work yet but soon.

-zpi

AWD is defintly an option that we have been exploring also there is a failry easy option to achieve this that should make it a "fairly" painless install.

wow... 6speed huh...well tell scion then they might just make one in 2 years

We have been researching this for awhile and have found a tranny with a lsd that will bolt to the 2AZ block. We will be testing this new theroy within the next couple weeks but if all works correctly we should be able to offer a 6spd lsd conversion for under 2k.
WOAH!
[/joey from blossum]

I see a lot of talk about the celica gt-s 6-speed for the tc but i think there is an oversight w/ this swap! The engines are installed opposite of each other TC exhaust is in front intake in the back Celica exhaust in the back (hence the reason for the active scoop) intake on the front of the engine facing forward! So i think it would be safe to assume like in the case of hondas b-series and k-series that the motor turns over in opposite directions

I see a lot of talk about the celica gt-s 6-speed for the tc but i think there is an oversight w/ this swap! The engines are installed opposite of each other TC exhaust is in front intake in the back Celica exhaust in the back (hence the reason for the active scoop) intake on the front of the engine facing forward! So i think it would be safe to assume like in the case of hondas b-series and k-series that the motor turns over in opposite directions

We are not looking at this tranny.

Will it be a completely new custom made tranny then?

A completely custom transmission probably wouldn't cost less than 2k now would it.. ?

My question is if this 6 sp will also have AWD - and what kind of AWD.

OR more probably, if this aftermarket transmission will come with an LSD at less than 2k?

6-speed, LSD, and AWD for 2K!? I'd like to see that. Bu also, how much weight would AWD add to the car? I would imagine it would push the tC over the 3k lbs mark.

lets work on getting the 4wd off the rav4 on our tc's that would either be realy cool or make the car handle funny some one should try it

That's a great idea! My wife has a Rav4.... :lalala:

Hmm, think she'd notice her drivetrain missing? :lalala:

Hmm, think she'd notice her drivetrain missing? :lalala:

LOL uh yeah.

That was purely a rhetorical question :silly: :doh:

Yeah IMO Scion will come out with a 6-speed sooner than everyone thinks. I'd say the 2007 model.

But I'd take a STi over an Evo but I'm happy with my Tc for now....

I see a lot of talk about the celica gt-s 6-speed for the tc but i think there is an oversight w/ this swap! The engines are installed opposite of each other TC exhaust is in front intake in the back Celica exhaust in the back (hence the reason for the active scoop) intake on the front of the engine facing forward! So i think it would be safe to assume like in the case of hondas b-series and k-series that the motor turns over in opposite directions

We are not looking at this tranny.


Never implied that you were.

A boosted tC would eat a GTS or XRS 6 speed in no time at all, not nearly tough enough;)

Rick