Alright guys... its been awhile since any new information surfaced on this shifter so I got some new information...

Our prototype shifter is here now and since our car will not be here till April 2nd or so... We are sending the shifter to one of our customers to test. However I am very confident that this will fit with no issues with the installation instructions we have.

Finally... the Pricing... pending the fitment, the item will be introduced at $89 shipped for the first 50 shifters. Estimated ship date is April 30th and we will begin taking pre-orders as soon as I confirm this week that this shifter fits.

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/SciontCShortShifter.jpg

Please post if you have any other questions.

count me in! ima definitely check back all this week to hear the good news.

how much shorter is the throw, and how much lower will the shift knob sit? Did you guys make it a little taller than the TWM shifter?

how does this compare to TWM's short shifter?

Unfortunately I couldnt wait any longer and I already bought and installed my TWM. I was all set to buy from you when you originally mentioned a $79 shipped price (including a knob) and a delivery date in Febuary, but as the time passed I just couldnt wait any longer. Im glad too since a May delivery date is too far away still in my opinion. Im sure your shifter will be nice, but in the end it only cost me $35 more for the real TWM, and I love it.

how does this compare to TWM's short shifter?
It was supposed to be a direct copy.

Looks good. Some info on the drop and % shorter the throw is would be great.

how does this compare to TWM's short shifter?
It was supposed to be a direct copy.

wow, direct copy and selling at cheaper price, competition at its best

sign me up!

hmm looks like it will be nice but I already have the twm shifter.

Count me in!

ACK The Peer pressure! Hmmm What to do?........... Bah I'm week. If it fits count me in.

What about the quality? I'm not pulling apart my shifter to put in some bad ripoff... but then again, the one I want someone to make a copy of is the TRD - I don't want one where the shifter sits so low and looks all funny... just my feelings about it. Lots of people seem to like it low, but not me.

the B&M one sits almost the same height as the stock shifter, and the throws are much shorter

We will have more information on the shifter once the item is installed and tested. We are doing our own R&D...

Funny thing is... thanks to some posts on here... guess who called this morning... TWM hahaha

"Why are you trying to rip off our shifter?" James don't go there.... James don't go there...

Do these guys think they are the only ones that can design a shifter these days? Please... so TWM if you are reading this post, which I am sure you are... READ more before calling and harassing myself and my company.

Thanks
James

If it fits I will probably be in for one....

James, sent you a PM. I'm definitely in.

reply sent

If it was a inch taller than the TWM I'm in as well.

James,

Sooo sexy!! Let us know when we can pop them up for sale!

you had me at hello!


please pm me with any additional info needed to secure myself in the race for the first 50 short throws and when it is indeed ready!

We will have more information on the shifter once the item is installed and tested. We are doing our own R&D...

Funny thing is... thanks to some posts on here... guess who called this morning... TWM hahaha

"Why are you trying to rip off our shifter?" James don't go there.... James don't go there...

Do these guys think they are the only ones that can design a shifter these days? Please... so TWM if you are reading this post, which I am sure you are... READ more before calling and harassing myself and my company.

Thanks
James

Wow, didnt mean to cause a stir if my post was responsible. I was just under the impression from reading posts elsewhere that this was the case with this shifter. After checking this is really all I found from creativecompacts directly:
I am currently having produced a t-304 Stainless steel short shifter with the same or very close to similar specs as the TWM Shifter.

I know you guys are a good reputable company and I was really looking forward to ordering my shifter from you, I just got too impatient, lol. Do you have the final details of the shift height reduction and throw percent reduction?

Our shifter was produced to similar specs... In all honestly, there isn't many ways you can change a shifter! We have fired off our sample shifter to a test car and the testing should be completed by the weekend. We will also be probably including in our kit risers to bring the entire shift assembly up about 1/2 inch. If we need to make the shifter longer, that is simple to do and it will be done before production.

Thanks
James

Our shifter was produced to similar specs... In all honestly, there isn't many ways you can change a shifter! We have fired off our sample shifter to a test car and the testing should be completed by the weekend. We will also be probably including in our kit risers to bring the entire shift assembly up about 1/2 inch. If we need to make the shifter longer, that is simple to do and it will be done before production.

Thanks
James

Can you explain that part for me, if you include the risers can you install it without them, so the shifter is still short, because i dont want it to be 1/2" longer i want it short!

Guys we will just post info on friday when we have it tested... until then...

Once my TC comes in, I would definatly be down for the short shifter.

Once you guys get your installation instructions put together, especially with pictures, it would be cool to post them. I'd be much more inclined to buy if the installation instructions looked well put together and trustworthy.

please make it higher than the TWM.... PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
sorry for annoying you james.

At this time I am happy to announce the shifter went in flawlessly as planned. The shifter was sent to another Scion Life member whom I have personally not met so we could get some unbiased opinions on the shifter. He will be making a post shortly. It got too late tonight to get the images of the shifter installed but we should have those tomorrow. Risers were shipped with the kit, however they haven't been installed and should have more information on those early next week. If all goes well.. we should be able to start taking preorders on Monday for $89 a shifter :) No 5% discount on that price BTW LOL

Thanks
James

First, I want to say thanks to James for letting me be the guinea pig on this. It is much appreciated.

The install was *very* easy. I used the howto write up for the twm shifter (http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36452&highlight=twm+shift+install)
so thanks to cad455 for supplying that! The entire install took 75 minutes.

This kit dramatically improves the "sloppy" feel of the stock setup. the CC kit makes the shifts feel very crisp and clean, even much nicer than my sister's IS300. Additionally, the height has been reduced to an excellent level: short enough to fix the awkward look of the stock shifter height, yet not so much that it prevents resting your shift arm on the center console as you shift.

Other things I would liek to mention: James was kind enuff the include a spare part for the retaining ring that most people are splicing off with a dremel. I really can't stress how impressed I am with the build quality of the kit, the ease of installation, and of course the performance of the kit. Excellent work James!

I would *definitely* recommend this setup for look/feel, as well as ease of installation. For any of the local Mid Atl people that want to check it out, lemme know, I'll be happy to let you take a look/feel. I'll also be at the BBQ on the 17th, and possible at MIR on April 1st.

Thanks again James for all the effort you put into this.
Dave

^^^^^ Great write up on the install. This is now my short shifter of choice.

:tap:

Lets see those pictures!

yay tomorrow is saturday! whats the news james? this shifter has gotten my pumped.

For those that are interested in the particular piece, you DON'T want to pass this up. It's a great product from a respectible company. Nice work James.

how did it go?

eh hem... :nails: i keep seeing these B&M short throw shifter commercials on spike tv. i think its a sign or foreshadowing.

I am waiting on the images from the test car...however the shifter is in production at this time.

when can we order and how long before shipping?

Count me in as well.

taking orders yet? :P

**very interested**

PICS PLEASE................. its ethier you or B&M, and i would rather see the money go to you james so help me out.

Looking forward to placing an order on this...

yes also interested. Where to send payments?

any updates?

I know james is really busy....so I took the liberty of posting some pix on my cardomain page. If there is something you want to see, that I don't have posted, please let me know, and I'll do my best to get them posted asap.
-Dave

http://www.cardomain.com/id/toastbox

Did you shorten the stock shift boot? Do they include another one? Is there a non-destructive way to do this or did you just cut it?

Did you shorten the stock shift boot? Do they include another one? Is there a non-destructive way to do this or did you just cut it?

Short answer to your question: No, that is the stock boot. The prototype James sent me did not include another one, nor would I expect him to.

Long asnwer: The TWM install link (included earlier in this thread on one of my postings) shows how to clean up the excess slack, in a "non-destructive" manner, as you put it :)

Basically what it amounts to is folding the excess height downwards (towards the drive train). This gets the excess material out of the way, you don't have to cut anything, and if you want to go back to the stock linkage for some reason, it preserves the original integrtity of the boot.

I thought that I'd heard you could do that somewhere. Sounds good. I'm coming around to this short shifter idea... maybe when I see him actually shipping them and people saying they like them I'll be more into it.

looks great! i'm definitely getting this once it's released.

when is the release date? ive been wanting to get a SS for months now but i cant decide to get the twm cuz its too low... i think this one is the best choice...

when is the release date? ive been wanting to get a SS for months now but i cant decide to get the twm cuz its too low... i think this one is the best choice...

i dont know if you saw pictures in this thread, or have read any of it, but i thought this shifter was a replicate of the twm, height, length, shift throw, etc. in the last page people were talking about how to customize the boot. even if its low, you should still consider it. the price tag is great. but yes...when is it coming out?

read again... yes it says that it is a replica but not exactly the same as twm... i think the difference is the overall height... twm's is shorter... but his one is a bit higher... this is based on what i've read so correct me if im wrong... as far as im concerned, i will be getting a SS ASAP! hmmm... wonder how high is B&M's SS? anyone got a pic of theirs???

ive seen the B&M in person. it sustains the normal stock height (so i saw). its nice if you want to keep that height.

nah... i want it shorter than stock... probably i will be buying the SS this w3eek from twm if CC still have no news abt their upcoming SS...

Preorders are now being taken.... Preorders are only open till the shifters arrive so you have about 30 days to order ASAP.

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CC05SciontCShifter&Category_Code=SciontCTransmissionShifter

Please visit the link above or log in directly to http://www.CreativeCompacts.Com

Shifter is $89 delivered in the USA. Item will come complete with Shift Knob.

holy sh!t that is awesome. i just ordered, but am more excited to know it comes with a knob. how much will it be after preorder?

Not sure on pricing but could jump as much as $30

So I assume that other than a shift knob, it comes with the mounting hardware, the risers, and everything else, right? What kind of knob does it come with? Will the stock knob still work?

It will come with the following

Shifter, Shift knob, risers, and all mounting hardware needed including plastic cap removal tool

Image of the knob is located on our site as well.

No way to get it without the knob for a little less???

The knob is cool, but I just got a new knob and don't need the one that comes with the ss.

Price is going to be $89 with or without it... Sorry

So, what is the height comparison between this shifter and the TWM shifter? i was gonna get the TWM but it's just a little to short for me.

We have not compared a TWM side by side with our shifter at this time....


15 shifters are already gone so 35 left at Preorder price of $89 shipped

OK, so, if we are looking at an early May shipment if I preorder, when will my credit card be charged? Immediately, or upon shipment?

At this time the best eta is May 15th.... Card will be charged within 24-48 hours of placing your order.

when u say the "best eta" does it mean in terms of shipments arriving to the shop or arriving to the people you ordered? dude sorry for so many questions... just a bit excited... hehehehe

We are expecting them to our place between May 1 - May 15. Once we get them in, we can ship them out the same day and our method of shipping is USPS 2-3 Day Priority Mail so you should have them very quickly once we ship.

Thanks
James

OK, I'm ordering one right now, but I'm having to use my PayPal account because when I use my credit card, there is no lock in the bottom of my browser, which means your site is not secure. Maybe you should get that checked.
Also, on my paypal account, it has your company listed as "Couger Parts Online" Is that right?

Sir:
Our site is Vera Signed secure... make sure you see the emblem before entering any credit card information. You will see this with our screen and paypal. If you have any doubts, reload our site with https:// and it will switch it to all time secure. Cougar Parts is a divison of our company.

ordered one. paid thru paypal with AMEX.

im one of the 15! just thought you all would like to see this pointless post. probably within the first 5; i should hooked up for quick ordering:)

Sir:
Our site is Vera Signed secure... make sure you see the emblem before entering any credit card information. You will see this with our screen and paypal. If you have any doubts, reload our site with https:// and it will switch it to all time secure. Cougar Parts is a divison of our company.
I'll try that if I decide to get that new body kit of yours :wink: I have been having some problems with some of my browser add ons. Otherwise, Paypal works fine.

how much longer is the shifter below the ball.. or is it the same length

We have 18 shifters left an the introductory price of $89.

Nobody has these in their cars yet, do they? I totally want one of these, but not until I hear from some actual customers who can vouch for the ease of installation, quality of construction, and feel in the car.

ey james any updates on our SS? cant wait till i get mine... hehehehe... 30 days to go and im counting...

that is correct no one has them yet, should be here around may 15th.

just a thought... isnt the SS fo the corolla and matrix same as with the tC??? just wondering...????

It is not to my knowledge

so, any updates? i see my creditcard has been charged for the preorder. i'd appreciate it if there are periodic updates.

After having my new tC for about a week and a half, I was pretty psyched to see this deal for the SS. I just went and placed my order. This will be my only real non-stereo mod probably, but I think it is absolutely necessary as that stock shifter sure is sloppy.

Nobody has these in their cars yet, do they? I totally want one of these, but not until I hear from some actual customers who can vouch for the ease of installation, quality of construction, and feel in the car.

Not sure if I really count or not, since I was test mule for the prototype, but yes, I *do* have this in my car already. MY review is on SL someplace. If you can't find it, let me know, and I'll see if I can dig it up for you.

FYI, if anyone in NoVA/Md/DC wants help with this install, I'll gladly help out, free of charge.

I think I might have seen it back in the day but if you could dig up the link I'd appreciate it.

haha , its on page two of this post, 5th post down from the top.

nice

QUOTE:

Dear Customer:
I would like to take the personal opportunity to thank you for
pre-ordering our company's Short Shifter for the 2005 Scion tC. Our company
is working directly with Scion as well as many lead manufacturers to have
parts both you and I crave for our vehicles. We look forward to serving you
in the future for your scion needs.
However at this time I have to send this e-mail with a bit of bad news. We
have experienced a delay from our Private manufacturer in the production of
the Short Shifters. We ordered 300 Short Shifters for stock on April 2,
2005 which the promise from the manufacturer they would be here between May
1-May 15th, as promoted on several online forums. On April 29th, 2005 we
touched base with our manufacturer to check on the status. At this time we
have been informed that the shifters will not be done production till May
15th-May 17th and we will not have the shifters in hand till at the best,
first week of June. At the best, its still a 15day delay. We are working
very hard to get this issue resolved as quickly as possible, however we are
limited to the manufacturers capabilities. I am aware that many of you have
been waiting since April 5th, 2005. I do not like to keep people waiting if
I can help it and in this situation I can not. So if you would not like to
wait for our shifter, we will be offering 100% refunds to those customers.
Simply respond to this e-mail with your order number and the credit will be
issued. At this time the preorder price is $89 and will change on May 15th,
2005. We look forward to serving you with a quality product very soon,
however if you cannot wait, just let us know.

Thanks for your time and understanding,
James Howard
Owner
CreativeCompacts.Com
540-373-0630

END QUOTE

geesh... this is really a bad news,,, i assume when u say 100% refund that includes the whole amount including taxes paid... correct? is there by any chance that the orders be delivered earlier?

im in no hurry i would wait

Guys sorry it came to this... but when you tell a manufacturer you want 300 versus 100, they freak out and backup stuff it looks like. I doubt anything will come in before June. I AM in the same boat as all of you who have pre-ordered cause I am still at Stock height as well and refuse to pay double for TWM. So if you are waiting, and can continue to wait, thank you. We have received a few requests for refunds and they are being processed back, however the preorder price will not be offered to those customers at a later date. We will give 100% refund so if you are in VA, you will be refunded the 5% sales tax... We are not here to take your money!

looks like a great product, one question, with the 30% shorter shift, are there any defects, slipping out of gear!!??!?!?!, cable problems, nething like that???cuz this def sounds too good to be true thanx

will the price change after you get them in stock? is the $89 price a preorder price?

isnt it possible to at least take half of the SS from the manufacturer and have it delivered to those who pre-oredered?

If it was, you wouldn't of gotten the e-mail. Hands are tied 100% until they get here... PRICE WILL CHANGE Before stock arrives... its not fair to those with the pre-orders in to keep the price at $89. At this time my goal is to change pricing on or about May 15th.

Well I'm very excited but in no HUGE rush, I have faith in the product and look forward to getting the shifter in when you can get it here!

If it was, you wouldn't of gotten the e-mail.
I didn't get that email...so does that mean I'm getting mine earlier? :rofl: jk
That sux, but I can wait.

any updates yet??

with less than 2weeks to go before june comes in, im hoping that our much awaited SS will be available soon...
i would appreciate it if we can get any updates though... BTW, was there already a price increase for the SS?

Guys,.... what updates? At this time everything is STILL on schedule for June... the item has been test fitted and is in production... I am simply waiting for them to arrive... we have 300 shifters coming in and will be shipping all pre-orders the same day they come in... Chill

Hey James and everyone at Creative Compacts.
You guys are the $hit! I have full faith in this product!
I've had mine on pre-order for quite sometime, and come
to think about it i just started thinking about it yesterday
lol. so im in no hurry. when its here, its here. does it come
with directions? or should I just wing it? lol.

also james/creative compacts... i put your guys' url
on my car along w/ my roll calls. i have
www.creativecompacts.com on the bottom edge of my door
i did it for advertisment purposes only! I've been telling
alot of scion owners about your site here in my area
i just figured putting your site on my car would help more

hope u guys dont get mad! cant wait for that ShrtShftr!

I want my money back, I have bee calling for the last 2 weeks and on one answers the phone.

Our company will gladly refund your money if you are unhappy with our service. At this time we have given the estimated date of around June 1st and we have been swamped with phone calls and e-mails (not to mention PMs) as to why they haven't gotten their shifters. Sorry guys but I can't speed up the date and as of today, its still only May 23rd.

For the past week, we have been doing updrades on our phone system to better serve the customer. In addition to the phone lines, we have also been away at the SEMA IAS Show and finishing up all the legal papers on our new shop location in Virginia. If you need to cancel an order, e-mail me at sales@creativecompacts.com and I will issue the refund to your card or paypal. Make sure you include your order number, last name on the order and what you are cancelling on the order.

Thanks
James

sounds good...but im in no rush, take ur time, ima be away neways, one question...do we get the 5% off lol

few days to go and its june!!! hopefully we get our much awaited SS form CC... woohoo!!

next week baby. i cant wait :P

*wondering how much it's gonna go up after this first batch*

Good thing i found about this product right now cause it is just about to be released. I don;t think i could have waited if i found out about this shifter when this topic was started. So i should receive it in like 1 week?

Well it looks like majority of the shifters for the pre-orders will be here next week on the following week cause of the holiday hold up... I will be contacting all customers with tracking numbers as soon as the shifter is ready to ship

Thanks
James

Thanks James I really appreciate all the updates you've been throwing at us....I can't wait to row through my gears with notchy goodness

AWESOME JAMES!

WHOOO I'm gettin stoked!

so all the shifters in the first batch are pre-orders? will there be any available after all the pre-orders are shipped? if not, when do you expect the next shipment?

huhooooooooooooooo :D yes yes yes!!!

yeah can't wait... i love the update, makes me feel good to know that you take the time to keep us up to date... so you expecting shipping date june 1st or delivery june 1st??

tomorrow...is June 1st...hoorraaay! :) :)

:clap: :clap: :clap: :pray: :pray: :pray:

shifter, come out come out wherever you are

so is today the day or what?

hmmmmmmmmmm

Well it looks like majority of the shifters for the pre-orders will be here next week on the following week cause of the holiday hold up... I will be contacting all customers with tracking numbers as soon as the shifter is ready to ship

Thanks
James

did anyone get their tracking number yet???

nope not yet. james will send them out soon. dont worry :P

no havent gotten mine, dont worry guys you'll get it

remember, it takes a while to wrap, package and send out shipments

Guys,.... what updates? At this time everything is STILL on schedule for June... the item has been test fitted and is in production... I am simply waiting for them to arrive... we have 300 shifters coming in and will be shipping all pre-orders the same day they come in... Chill

June 3rd rolls around...not that im complaining or anything...I definately can still wait...its just anxiety is building even more now :)

pappa want S/S from C/C, but this wait is going to be SO worth it!

hummm let's wait for few more weeks then :D watcha think? just kidding!!!

did anyone get any kind of notice from c/c????

nothing here....we'll hear something monday when they open

they are closed Sat's & Sun's guys.

They only post while at work

i want to see thise asap

well i sent a message to theie aim like on thursday and someone replied with the statement, "We will be getting 30 shifters by the end of this week. The rest of the shipment should be received by the end of the month." So don't be discouraged if this is true. We're just going to have to wait a lil longer.

well i sent a message to theie aim like on thursday and someone replied with the statement, "We will be getting 30 shifters by the end of this week. The rest of the shipment should be received by the end of the month." So don't be discouraged if this is true. We're just going to have to wait a lil longer.

You will have that when you make a new aftermarket item for a brand new car
that comes off production!

well i sent a message to theie aim like on thursday and someone replied with the statement, "We will be getting 30 shifters by the end of this week. The rest of the shipment should be received by the end of the month." So don't be discouraged if this is true. We're just going to have to wait a lil longer.

You will have that when you make a new aftermarket item for a brand new car
that comes off production!

Quit yelling at me..lol..I just stated the fact. But anywho...im not at all anxious anymore..when it comes..it get here...right now im moving forward to focusing on intake, strut bar, trd shocks and springs, and rims and tires.

Unless DHL messes up our shipment, 30 intakes will be here on friday and for those who were the first 30, your intakes will be to you on MONDAY and tracking numbers will be forwarded by E-mail when your order ships. I do not have the list at this time, its at the warehouse being prepared for shipments so please refrain from using every contact method possible to ask if your shifter is on the list of 30... We are doing our best but we are getting about 100 PMs, AIMs, E-mails and phone calls every day... Thanks for being patient, but please wait till friday evening for tracking. The rest of the shifter orders will be shipping out later this month when our final shipment of 270 arrive

Thanks
James

Thanks for the update James! :D

Guys... RELAX on the AIM's, PMs and E-mails... We are gettiing over 100 messages combined every 6 hours! All updates have been posted on our Website and all forums. At this time, we will not be answering any more AIM requests or PMs in regards to the short shifter... We are spending too much time on the subject. If you are DYING to hear information on the shifter that has already been posted, feel free to call us. A sales rep will be more then happy to tell you 30 are coming in this week and the rest at the end of the month.

Is it Friday yet? No? Just Tuesday? Dang, this is the longest week ever! :wink:

Is it Friday yet? No? Just Tuesday? Dang, this is the longest week ever! :wink:
I must agree lol..its only wednesday...and it sucks but im probably not in the first 30 anyways...but it's all good i can wait till my new tools come in before installing the ss

cool thanx

What tools do you need in order to install the SS. I thought that it was just a simple rip apart the console, take out the stock shifter, then put in the SS and put back together the console. (of course I left out the details but i didn't think that any tools were needed).

I do not have the list at this time, its at the warehouse being prepared for shipments so please refrain from using every contact method possible to ask if your shifter is on the list of 30...We are doing our best but we are getting about 100 PMs, AIMs, E-mails and phone calls every day...

Maybe be kind enough to post the list of the 30 people waiting in line for the
short shifter?


The rest of the shifter orders will be shipping out later this month when our final shipment of 270 arrive

Boy I hope "later this month" is the 2nd week in June.


:tap: :tap: :tap: :tap: :tap: :tap:

What tools do you need in order to install the SS. I thought that it was just a simple rip apart the console, take out the stock shifter, then put in the SS and put back together the console. (of course I left out the details but i didn't think that any tools were needed).

nothing elaborate. a socket set to remove the mounting bolts, and then a screw driver or other prying tools for one of the retaining washers.

Some people here are being childish.

It is not the fault of CC that the manufacturer didnt do what they said they would. Im sure CC is doing all they can to get us the shifters ASAP. Harassing them with emails and phone calls isnt going to do a thing but ____ them off and make them think twice about preordering their products in the future.

Leave them alone, they didnt forget about you, it just takes time.

Thanks CC for creating awesome products for our cars at reasonable prices...

Thanks CC for creating awesome products for our cars at reasonable prices...

2nded

wish they could give out the list of the first 30people who will get it to be fair for those who really waited for 2months for this much awaited SS...
i made my preorder April 7th so i am hoping i am included in the first 30 cuz i remember reading the post during that day that there were already 15pre-orders made...
...wish i may, wish i might... :pray:

At this time 19 shifters have arrived and they are being packaged right now. If yours is shipping today, you will have an e-mail by 4pm with a tracking number and your shifter will arrive by Tuesday next week. For most of you, you will have them on Monday.

FYI... we have another 20 pieces coming in next week... thats why this one was shortened to 20. The reason I posted 19 is because one was the original sample.

THEY ARE COMING GUYS!!!

u mean to say the shifter that is being shipped today will arrive tuesday next week but for the other 20 for monday? is that a monday week after next?

You guys love to make things more complex then what they are!!!

TODAY I am shipping 19 shifters... Most of those 19 customers will have them on either MONDAY or TUESDAY at THEIR HOUSE...

:lalala: hehehehehehe... sorry james... :P

At this time all tracking numbers have been e-mailed

sweet!! mine is shipped

sweet!! mine is shipped
dude when did u buy yours? im hoping ill be included in the first batch but till now i didnt get the magic numbers... :cry:
im still in wishful thinking mode.... :pray:

i was looking back thru the old posts and i paid on 4/7. and since its via priority mail, maybe i'll get it by tue. or wed.

All shifters are now in the hands of USPS, Enjoy... I will forward over installation instructions later today or this weekend.

so i guess im not inlcuded in the first 19 people who preordered... i just thought i was... :cry:
...why oh why... :question:

We have another 20 arriving next friday, you will probably be on that one

i also paid on the 7th of april... how is this possible? haaay... :question:

If you are Mr Perez, your item has shipped.... I am guessing based off you being in sterling... Should be to you tomorrow since you are in VA....Just relax... world will still be here tomorrow

hahahaha!!! ur right james... hehehehe... patience is truly a virtue!
i didnt get any tracking number thats why i wanted to fish for some more info on my SS... hehehe..
tnx for all the infos man... salute! :bow: :clap:

Finally theyre coming!! :bow: :bow:
I hope i get mine before July i dunno how late i preordered mine :nails:

I hope I get mine before july too.

if not i'm going to be upset. but oh well. the longer the
wait, the better the reward!

thanks james i just recieved the conformation. i knew that you guys will pull through :P patience is a virtue

sweet its on its way ... it will compliment my other mod coming up nicely =)

YES! SHIPPED! :clap: Friday came sooner then I thought! Let's hope I don't have as much trouble installing this as I did my Hotchkis sways! :pray:

Yeah ...shipped !!! Looking foward to installing ASAP ! :pray:

la la la la la la

If people in the Va/Md/DC area need help with the install, please feel free to contact me :)

get some pics up of the install

pix of the initial test install (my car have been up for a while). I'm too lazy at the moment to search for the orginial location of those posts. they may still be up at http://www.cardomain.com/profile/toastbox

I want my toy too :( LOL

:P I finally got the short shifter today and installed it !!! Two things for me : first- what are the purple disk that come w/ the shifter ??? I didn't use any of them to install the shifter but it works great !!! : second- the shifter package DID NOT include the shifter KNOB that was shown during the pre-order. Is it gonna shipped later or is it just mine that was not included ??? Well, this shifter is just awesome and makes drinving tc a lot better. I'll try to post some pics later !

:P I finally got the short shifter today and installed it !!! Two things for me : first- what are the purple disk that come w/ the shifter ??? I didn't use any of them to install the shifter but it works great !!! : second- the shifter package DID NOT include the shifter KNOB that was shown during the pre-order. Is it gonna shipped later or is it just mine that was not included ??? Well, this shifter is just awesome and makes drinving tc a lot better. I'll try to post some pics later !

I also got mine without the shifter KNOB just now. I hope its shipped later. Anyways how hard is it to install. The package did not include any installation. James did say he will post the installation over the weekend. Did i miss it.

I believe the install is the exact same as the TWM which is in the FAQ section.

me too just got the shifter but without the knob... i thought the price included the knob???

Guys been out the office all weekend... the County is giving me alot of issues trying to open up our install bay....

Yes the shifters will come with shift knobs... I have them going out on friday, just didn't wanna hold up the shifters any longer then they already had... Will be outta here on friday.

Thanks
James

The installation was not that difficult!!! Believe or not, the most time consuming part was to put back the clip at the bottom of the shifter... (too small to manipulate well). My advice would be DO NOT take the whole clip out, instead just pop one of the side out and then take the shifter out. This way you don't have to mess with it ! Still, I have those purple disks !!! Where do I use them ??? :nope:

you use the purple disks on the underside of the white cage (as a spacer between the cage and te body of the car). The disks act as a "riser" for the cage, bringing the whole cage up about 1/2 an inch. I didn't use them. I did the install with both the risers in, and out, and felt that it looked/felt nicer with the risers out.

so how long did the installing take? did you have to dremel out the clip like the instruction said on the TWM shifter?

The whole installation only took 45m but i took the bottom clip out and putting it back took me 30 MINUTES (it's small, it was hot and i had big fingers )!!! So, my advice is to leave the clip as it is and just pop one side out and take the shifter out. (SEE TWM shifter installation @ tech section for details).

So do you need a dremel or any other "special" tools?

So do you need a dremel or any other "special" tools?

*I* did not use a dremel. You can get that quick nut/retaining ring (whatever you want to call it) off with some flathead screwdrivers, and some patience.

any update for the people who ordered the shifters a little bit late in the process. I ordered mine like 2 weeks ago. Will i be waiting like 2 more month?

*I* did not use a dremel. You can get that quick nut/retaining ring (whatever you want to call it) off with some flathead screwdrivers, and some patience.

does CC supply a new clip? what exactly comes in the package? did it include the round metal thing to take off the plastic cup?

does CC supply a new clip? what exactly comes in the package? did it include the round metal thing to take off the plastic cup?

I might not be the right person to answer this, since I got the guinea pig kit, but what james sent me was:

Shifter, knob, risers (the purple things), two retainer washers (speed nuts), and the linkage removal tool thingy.

From what it sounds like, that is what others will be getting.

yup... CC gives u evrything u need just like in the twm less the knob... 2retainer clips, the removal tool, the nuts and bolts, risers, and the extra polished knob that the TWM does not give...
just got mine today... :P

got mine today and installed it in an hour. its definitely not as hard i as i thought it was. had the DIY install from here. its a beautiful simple mod.

i take it nobody besides toastbox got the knob yet? how is the knob? is it weighted? i was thinking of getting a weighted knob to go with the SS.

What about crspness? I don't know if it has to do with the actual transmission or the shifter unit but is the shifting action still as smooth and precise as the OEM one?

What about crspness? I don't know if it has to do with the actual transmission or the shifter unit but is the shifting action still as smooth and precise as the OEM one?

i definitely found the new shifter to be really stiff compared to the stock shifter. i think heads were complaining that the stock ____er was too loose. well this stiffness of the CC shifter eliminates that (if you were complaining).

i just got home to find my shifter arrived today! sweet. what are the four bolts for? and the purple spacers, they're not needed right? hope i can install it tonight.

i can't wait to join the bandwagon of the CC SS elite lol and get mine in when it comes :) :)..

What about crspness? I don't know if it has to do with the actual transmission or the shifter unit but is the shifting action still as smooth and precise as the OEM one?

i definitely found the new shifter to be really stiff compared to the stock shifter. i think heads were complaining that the stock ____er was too loose. well this stiffness of the CC shifter eliminates that (if you were complaining).

So I take it it no longer has the "sushi knife cutting through cooked fish" feel?

People normally describe it like cutting through warm butter but I felt it was more precise than that but it definitely had the same ease.

Would you describe it more as throwing short power punches?

i just put mine in. the throws are definately shorter and stiffer. whole install took about 35 minutes. the longest part was taking the white piece that sat ontop of the shifter out. took alot of prying to get the damn thing off. but after that it was pretty straight forward.

what about the spacers,,, for you guys that installed it already... is it better with or without the spacers???

i installed the shifter tonight since it was cool out. i did install the risers, and the install process took about 45 mins. the white top part of the shifter was the hardest part to take out. the shifting feels precise but i think its too stiff. i did not recieve the knob either. its late i need to goto bed :doh:

i installed the shifter tonight since it was cool out. i did install the risers, and the install process took about 45 mins. the white top part of the shifter was the hardest part to take out. the shifting feels precise but i think its too stiff. i did not recieve the knob either. its late i need to goto bed :doh:
Sweet. I dont' think I understand where those risers are supposed to go. Has CC posted any instructions yet that show the risers in place?

Sweet. I dont' think I understand where those risers are supposed to go. Has CC posted any instructions yet that show the risers in place?

Per one of my posts above, the risers go under the white cage/base, between the body of the car, and the cage.

Instructions are as follows:

There are four bolts that secore the cage to the body of the car, remove those bolts, and the black rubber thingy's inside the four holes. Insert the purple risers, secure the cage to the body using the four replacement bolts/washers CC supplied.

Sweet. I dont' think I understand where those risers are supposed to go. Has CC posted any instructions yet that show the risers in place?

Per one of my posts above, the risers go under the white cage/base, between the body of the car, and the cage.

Instructions are as follows:

There are four bolts that secore the cage to the body of the car, remove those bolts, and the black rubber thingy's inside the four holes. Insert the purple risers, secure the cage to the body using the four replacement bolts/washers CC supplied.
That is what I thought, but I wasn't sure because these bolts are not removed during the install of the TWM shifter, correct? And do you put the black rubber thingy's back in as well? I will be installing mine tonight or tomorrow, depending on when I get my kids to bed.

True, following the TWM install, those bolts are not removed. I can't remember for sure if the rubber thingy's are installed in conjection with the purple thingys (I know you all love my highly technical terms here, lol!!) but IIRC, you *can't* use them both, so the rubber grommets are left out. You'll be able to tell for sure when you are taking it apart, it'll be readiy apparent if the require removal or not.

a dremel is not necessary, but a lot faster. i used a strong thin knife and tapped the end with a small hammer. it will wedge right in there. after that however, was harder to get off. you have to pry and bend the clip slightly. i didnt want to use too much leverage on the shifter cage, in fear of breaking it so i had to basically chisel through that clip with a hammer and flathead screwdriver. once you chisel adjacent (downward) the clip, it just breaks off. i think this is the easiest way to get it off.

yea it was very easy with the dremel. i tried to be careful and block the sparks from hitting everything.

I agree... I tried to pry it w/ knife but Dremel was the solution !

How much lower is the shifter? Can you guys take pics?

any recommended on weighted shiftknobs? i was looking on cardomain.com and theres this 1pounder http://www.cardomain.com/item/RAZRA117

then there's this greddy i was looking at too, http://www.cardomain.com/item/GRE14510561

are you guys using the stock giant eraser with the SS? if not what are you using?

YOU ARE ALL HATERS TO THE CC SS, no im kidding im just jealous cuz i want mine really bad and my friend hasn't received the tracking # yet (he ordered for me, no money at time of preorder) I CANT WAIT!!

How much lower is the shifter? Can you guys take pics?
Both of those questions have already been answered, even in this post. Or youcould use the search function. Not trying to be a jerk, but answering the same questions over and over again, is a giant pain.

any recommended on weighted shiftknobs? i was looking on cardomain.com and theres this 1pounder http://www.cardomain.com/item/RAZRA117

then there's this greddy i was looking at too, http://www.cardomain.com/item/GRE14510561

are you guys using the stock giant eraser with the SS? if not what are you using?

The first one you posted is a 2 pounder...thats pretty heavy!
I'm using the IS300 knob...looks similar to the second one, but isn't weighted.

i was wondering if the risers will change the shifting... why are they there if we don't need them.. do they rise the whole assembly to make it easier to reach and still make the shift shorter???

Just so there is no surprise...

I just checked the list of Pre-orders... Looks like there is 34 still on the list... I have 20 more shifters arriving on Friday... So that will leave 14 shifters still pending for later this month. To those 14 individuals, I am very sorry. However I am in the same boat as you since I too still do not have a short shifter in the company car. We will not install our short shifter till all customers orders are fulfilled. Please refrain from asking if you are on the last 14 till after friday when I submit the 20 for shipment. If you don't get an e-mail on Friday, you are probably the last batch of 14. Again thanks for your patience.

Thanks
James

any recommended on weighted shiftknobs? i was looking on cardomain.com and theres this 1pounder http://www.cardomain.com/item/RAZRA117

then there's this greddy i was looking at too, http://www.cardomain.com/item/GRE14510561

are you guys using the stock giant eraser with the SS? if not what are you using?

The first one you posted is a 2 pounder...thats pretty heavy!
I'm using the IS300 knob...looks similar to the second one, but isn't weighted.

the first is only a little over 1 pound. its 16.2 ounces. only thing is it looks kind of funny

^^ whoops! my bad, was reading the "shipping weight"....:lalala:

it'd look even more funny with the shipping box attached to the shifter, lol!

james, will our knob also be shipped friday?

Sweet. I dont' think I understand where those risers are supposed to go. Has CC posted any instructions yet that show the risers in place?

Per one of my posts above, the risers go under the white cage/base, between the body of the car, and the cage.

Instructions are as follows:

There are four bolts that secore the cage to the body of the car, remove those bolts, and the black rubber thingy's inside the four holes. Insert the purple risers, secure the cage to the body using the four replacement bolts/washers CC supplied.
That is what I thought, but I wasn't sure because these bolts are not removed during the install of the TWM shifter, correct? And do you put the black rubber thingy's back in as well? I will be installing mine tonight or tomorrow, depending on when I get my kids to bed.


when you install the purple risers. take out the stock urethane mounts and inner bushings on the 4 corners of the cage. they should pop out easily wihtout any tools. when installing the shifter make sure that you have some grease on hand, to lube up the center balljoint. i believe the stock rubber mounts are there to help from vibrations. but the purple ones will give a more precise feeling.

james, will our knob also be shipped friday?

Yes the knobs will be shipping out on Friday

sweet!!! aight man... thanks... ill install mine next week after i have my car checed by the dealer reagrding my steering issues...

when you install the purple risers. take out the stock urethane mounts and inner bushings on the 4 corners of the cage. they should pop out easily wihtout any tools. when installing the shifter make sure that you have some grease on hand, to lube up the center balljoint. i believe the stock rubber mounts are there to help from vibrations. but the purple ones will give a more precise feeling.

First of all: 45 MINUTES MY A$$!
It took me a good 2 and a half hours and I cut my knuckle open 3 times trying to get those 2 black clips off the cage wich I did not see in any pictures of the TWM install! I even used the dremel on the little side clip (which worked great). I had such a pain getting the round white plastic peice up, and putting it back on enough to get those 2 black clips back on. I used a hammer!
Oh, and when they say to use that silver disk to get that white plastic cup off the old shifter and to pull for all your life? Well, all you have to do is hold it like in the picture, between your feet, but instead of pulling up, just bend the shifter down between your legs. It pops right out with zero effort.
I'd rather install my front Hotchkis sway again then do this again! At least with that, it's just bolts. I can't handle prying clips, tweaking plastic rings and hammering crap down. It's just sketchy.

Anyway, back to the purple risers. The only thing I took out was the old bolts. I left everything else in, and I dont' think I like it to much. It seams to be up just a little to high, and is putting preasure on the 2 cables up front, making it feel a little strained. The only thing I saw in there were those black rubber things on each corner. Is there something else I'm supposed to pop out? do they just come out of the top? are they just under the black rubber things? I need to take it appart tonight anyway because I made my shift boot to short and it's pulling the back in 1st and 5th. I was going to just try without the purple spacers, but I'll try it without the eurathane mounts if I can find them.

the black rubber things on all four corners are what we were referring to. Since you left yours in, all you need do is remove the risers, and reinstall the stock bolts.

chicago_guy mentioned taking out the stock urethane mounts and the inner bushings. Are these not 2 seperate things? I think the shifter is a tad to high with the risers, but I'm afraid it might be too low without them. If the risers slip in a little more, that would be great. Otherwise, I'll take them out and get a slightly longer Sparco shift knob.
Oh, and that stock shift knob is a lot heavier then I expected.

Honestly, it was about two months ago or so when I got mine, so I really can't 100% remember what was there, but I don't recall any urethane bushing AND black grommets, only the black grommets.

Chicago_Guy? can you give more detail on this? You did yours more recently, so it would seem you're the more logical person to ask about this!

sh!t, i just realized i didn't put grease on the ball joint when i put the SS in. now i gotta take it out and lube it. good thing it came with two clips.

sh!t, i just realized i didn't put grease on the ball joint when i put the SS in. now i gotta take it out and lube it. good thing it came with two clips.
That sux. Do you think you could just use a grease gun?

sh!t, i just realized i didn't put grease on the ball joint when i put the SS in. now i gotta take it out and lube it. good thing it came with two clips.
That sux. Do you think you could just use a grease gun?

doubt that, its so tight in there where the white piece goes on top of the ball.

you'll want to grease both the ball joint on the bottom, and the big huge ball in the middle.

hmmmm.. igreased mine but I did put a lot of extra grease... why what will little or no grease do??? will it mess something up??? oh yeah.. LOVE the SS... I can accelerate much faster now... you know the white clip part over the middle ball joint.. mine had two metal clips over that I guess for extra security.. in the twm install his did have those clips... does anyone else have that??

here is a picture for reference from another thread.
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/short_shift_xb/core-07.jpg
you can see 4 rubber bushings, which are the mounts. and if you look inside you will see the metal couplers or whatever they are called. first push the metal one out, then with your fingers squeeze the rubber ones and push them out.
http://www.pewclothing.com/DAN/bushing.JPG
hope this helps.
one more thing. make sure you lube up that ball joint before installing the white plastic cap

hmmmm.. igreased mine but I did put a lot of extra grease... why what will little or no grease do??? will it mess something up??? oh yeah.. LOVE the SS... I can accelerate much faster now... you know the white clip part over the middle ball joint.. mine had two metal clips over that I guess for extra security.. in the twm install his did have those clips... does anyone else have that??

i had them too. i just pryed them off with a flat head but i did not reuse them. i tried the shifter with the 2 clips and without. it was smoother without the clips.

I had the clips as well. They were a total pain to put back in.
So, I pusht the metal and the rubber through the bottom, and then leave them both out if I'm going to use the purple ones that came with the shifter? I'll try that when I get off work.

I had the clips as well. They were a total pain to put back in.
So, I pusht the metal and the rubber through the bottom, and then leave them both out if I'm going to use the purple ones that came with the shifter? I'll try that when I get off work.

correct

I personally did not use the purple disk to raise the shifter but I feel like it's sitting perferctly as it is. The SS did improve the movement of shifting and now it feels more precise and heavy!

Glad to hear you all love the shifters :)

Glad to hear you all love the shifters :)

I will love it more if i am on this coming list on friday :tap:

Glad to hear you all love the shifters :)

I will love it more if i am on this coming list on friday :tap:

:rofl: no worries..we should get it soon...i think im on the end of the list as well...but i can wait.

how does this compare to TWM's short shifter?

That's what I'm wondering as well. The TVM is short and looks great

there is a review on here somewhere, I compared it specifically to the TWM.

how come you guys didn't reuse the 2 clips for the white piece? i thought scion specifically put it there to reduce rattle and vibration. in the TSB for shifter rattle, its only for the first couple batches since they solved the problem with the clips for the later ones. i had a hell of a time putting those clips back in. basically i put a screw driver under the top hook and pulled up real hard to get it to hook just a bit on the white plastic, then tapped it with a hammer to clip it in place. now i'd have to do it again to regrease the ball =(

Glad to hear you all love the shifters :)

I will love it more if i am on this coming list on friday :tap:

:rofl: no worries..we should get it soon...i think im on the end of the list as well...but i can wait.

:rofl: oh i know we will get them soon, im just trying to pass the time! im auctally glad me and you are on middle of the list b/c we get to see how hard/easy of an install
it is, and get to see what it will look like when its finished!

TOMORROW! :pray:

...i had a hell of a time putting those clips back in. basically i put a screw driver under the top hook and pulled up real hard to get it to hook just a bit on the white plastic, then tapped it with a hammer to clip it in place...=(
That's about how i did it, except I angled the flat head under the clip and over the plastic peice so that when I hammered it, it would guide the clip over the plastic piece.

But oh my, what a differece those spacers make when installed properly. Thanks for the diagram, chicago_guy, of how to get the metal and rubber pieces out. It sits perfectly now! I love it! Stiffer, clickier, more solid, more precise, and deffinatley shorter throws.

Maximus96:
I dont' think the TWM comes with the spacers. Other then that, they are pretty identical, I think. It's great that Creative Compacts gives you the option of haveing the exact same throws, but having the stick a little higher or not. I definately like it better with the purple risors in. Plus, since you take the ruber ones out, it gives it a more solid, less mushy feel. Plus, isnt' it cheaper?

no prob meaty. hey how do you like the feel of the shifter? i kinda have to put alot of muscle into shifting. is this just me or does everyone have this feeling?

no prob meaty. hey how do you like the feel of the shifter? i kinda have to put alot of muscle into shifting. is this just me or does everyone have this feeling?

it definately takes more effort for me to shift compare to stock. but each shift feels more solid. i wonder if its because the stock knob. i also wonder how much difference a weighted knob will make. hopefully we get the included knob soon and i'll decide then whether to get another knob.

I did not use the purple disk 'cus I liked the way it was sitting. But now I am wondering if I should put those back ! Do they make any difference at all ? And I also feel that the shifting is heavier but I like that. I have OBX knob, which is little heavy but I'll try the Creative Compact knob when it gets here.

with any short shifter you do, you need a lighter knob

can sombody post some pics of thier new shifters!!!!!

no prob meaty. hey how do you like the feel of the shifter? i kinda have to put alot of muscle into shifting. is this just me or does everyone have this feeling?
It definatley takes some more muscle. But alot less then when you have to many spacers in there! But yeah, you have to remember, that not only is the stick shorter, but the pivot point was changed, so we can assume it would take more effort. I bet even the TRD shifter takes a little more effort. It feels alot more like my buddies camero now. Kinda odd feeling for a small, Japanese 4 banger, but I'll get used to it. It's only been a week. But it does feel alot less sloppy.

ZaZaTc:
If you didnt' like the way it felt with the purple discs in (as long as you took the metal and ruber fillers out) then you're probably not going to like it. It brings the entire shifter up about half an inch, but it also takes some of the squishyness out of the engagements of the gears because those rubber bushings are removed. It's a little rougher, but the gears feel more connected to me. Try it both ways. It only takes 15 minutes or so to take the entire center console out and replace the bolts.

no prob meaty. hey how do you like the feel of the shifter? i kinda have to put alot of muscle into shifting. is this just me or does everyone have this feeling?

it definately takes more effort for me to shift compare to stock. but each shift feels more solid. i wonder if its because the stock knob. i also wonder how much difference a weighted knob will make. hopefully we get the included knob soon and i'll decide then whether to get another knob.

i have the greddy counter wieght knob, it was too short so for now im going back to stock

what kind of grease or lube do ya'll use???? I was thinking white lithium grease.. but if ya'll know anything better... plus I like the height that the shifter is at now, but if the risers make the shifter feel more solid don't you think if cc came out with rises but a little bit less than the current ones would be better??? I would pay for those...

Is the extra effort purely because of the shortened lever effect?

IE takes more energy to get more work done in less time? Or is there something about housing or the pivot joints that cause the shifter to be stiffer?

I think I'll have to look someone up in SoCal with one and feel it for myself.

If it's a bit stiffer I fear driving in traffic will suck royally whilst giving a very good work out. My problem with this is that my arms look better together if they're the same size...

Someone should make a telescoping shifter!

Is the extra effort purely because of the shortened lever effect?
Yes.
It's not rediculously more difficult, just more. Not any more then some other sports cars that already have shorter throw shifters then ours.

jbae:
I just rubbed the grease off the old shifter and put it on the new one!

I hope im on today's list for the next shipment! :nails: :nails:

yeah me too!