like the topic says, i like the xB and want to trade my 03 Civic Si in for one. only problem (besides my credit!) is my wife loathes the xB. she says its the ugliest vehicle on the road period. calls it a cheaply made astrovan wanna-be wagon and questions its reliability. heh she also hates my current car and also calls it an ugly wagon, even though its a hatchback. anyways im doing everything i can to convince her an xB is a good choice for us. we have a 4 month old and our two door cars arent cutting it. plus im upside down on the loan with my Si and, for a honda.. its pretty crappy as far as quality goes. her priorities seem to be style, reliability, style, style again, and lastly performance. mine, since the addition of our baby and our lack of money, are price, reliability, gas mileage, room, and then style. performance would be nice but im trying to get away from all of that since its too costly to build a motor and pay for tickets heh. performance is my passion, but i guess i need to grow up a little. id love to be able to sale my car and get rid of a car payment and high insurance and get an old accord 4dr for cash and do an h22 swap, but then as i said, im upside down with the Si.. i wouldnt be able to sale it and pay the difference on what i owe.
:doh:


so any thoughts on what i should do overall or how to talk the wife into considering the xB?

thanks
- Chris

put duct tape on her mouth and buy the xB...

pure pricing includes fixed interest rates....
what car(s) does she like???

Sorry man... you are going to have to divorce her. It will be rough... but the xB will fill the void she left.

heh she likes cars we cant afford as in 04+ maxima, 03+ accord, and the mazda6 V6s, and of course things like BMW and lexus.. in all honestly it will be difficult to get financed for the xB. we probably will end up having to go cheaper than that ;\

Just sit her down and go through the Gallery with her.

The first time I saw the xB was at the NAIAS '03. I knew I wanted the car as soon as I saw it. My wife thought it was the fugliest car she ever saw AND that I just liked the models talking about the car.

What I did was show her everything xB came with standard, and she liked that but still didn't like the car. This past Dec. we test drove the xB and she fell in love with the car. This year at the NAIAS I couldn't get her out of the display xB. LOL We are getting our xB in July as soon as we the hell out of Michigan and move back to Texas. I think the key is to get her in one and drive it.

It can be done. Good Luck!

use the

"if you love me..." phrase..

check these thread out..hope it helps

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52029

Just sit her down and go through the Gallery with her.
prolly not a good idea....with the list of cars she likes...

loud, flashy, sporty cars are not her taste...sedate looking sedans are her flavor(also the prestige of the big names)

just get it ...she will get over it...

ive thought about using the test drive as a way to win her over, but she wont even get in it to test drive. i played a joke on her a couple of days ago and told her i talked with scion and they told me i was preapproved and could come pick up my scion that day.. she nearly cried. she was whining 'but i dont want that car!!! cant they give us a TC instead?" which would make the trade pointless since the main reason is because we need a 4 door.

if i can get financed i might would just get it behind her back and let it grow on her ;)

My wife hated the xB when she first saw it. :doh:

After seeing my Cousins xB lowered with custom wheels, and riding in it, she started to change her mind. It ended up taking about 2 months before she really liked it and wanted one. Now she gets mad if she can't drive it. She loves it and wants to get another one. :clap:

She wants a Mazda or a BMW, and she's concerned about the reliability of a Toyota? I mean, I know that women are exempt from the bounds of logic, but give me a break.

I don't particularly care for the xBs, but I applaud your desire to get a car that meets your family's needs, both in terms of space and convenience, as well as financially. You're trying to get your finances more in order, while she apparently wants to sink you deeper into a hole.

How about an xA? Corolla?

Sorry man... you are going to have to divorce her. It will be rough... but the xB will fill the void she left.
cosign

when i got mine my girlfriend at the time hated it so much not only because of the shape but the color. i bought it anyway and she eventually warmed up to it. if you havent taken her to a show room to see it yet, do so. have her sit in it and show her all the space in the back for the little ones. a baby seat fits well in the back seat. as far as it being a cheaply made wagon, remind her its a toyota.

Who's car is it again?

Get her to sit inside of one, a lot of people warm up to it once they are inside. Around Annapolis area, most of the people that are buying xBs are doing so because it's a great value...they tolerate the way it looks so that they can have 35mpg and toyota reliabilty for 15k. It's also surprisingly fun to drive...so the key is going to be getting her to the dealer to see how much fun the car really is

Well, my wife doesn't like my xB, but then again she doesn't have to drive it either. I'd say if she doesn't like your current ride, what are you going to be out by getting another one she doesn't like. And as far as reliability goes, Toyota is one of the best out there. Just my 2 cents. :nails:

haha yea my girlfriend really hated it but she was forced to ride in it cause she hated drving to places. First lines out of her mouth were. Are these the kind of windows we can see out of but they can't see in. She was so embaressed. But now she actually likes it and her parents bought one. Go fig.

like the topic says, i like the xB and want to trade my 03 Civic Si in for one. only problem (besides my credit!) is my wife loathes the xB. she says its the ugliest vehicle on the road period. calls it a cheaply made astrovan wanna-be wagon and questions its reliability. heh she also hates my current car and also calls it an ugly wagon, even though its a hatchback. anyways im doing everything i can to convince her an xB is a good choice for us. we have a 4 month old and our two door cars arent cutting it. plus im upside down on the loan with my Si and, for a honda. her priorities seem to be style, reliability, style, style again, and lastly performance. mine, since the addition of our baby and our lack of money, are price, reliability, gas mileage, room, and then style.

so any thoughts on what i should do overall or how to talk the wife into considering the xB?


I just had to respond to this one. Being a "soon-to-be" wife with a 17mo. old daughter and 2 stepkids (7yo & 4yo), it would make a GREAT family car!!!! Look at us, we NEVER thought of getting something like the Scion. Who could beat a funky and unique style, good $$$, good gas mileage, lots of space and headroom and big, tinted windows??? Your wife doesn't know what she's missing out on, maybe she should go and test one out before talking that trash. We got it because we despise MiniVans and it's NO WHERE near the minivan. :gun: Why pay $45K + for a car??? That's ridiculous, it's a car that will get you from point A to point B and the safety of your family is important no matter what the price. Toyota has a very good reputation and since I got my Scion (July 3, 2004), I have seen an increase in Scion owners. It's not just a fad, it's a fact.

I've been there, done that with the 2 door car and a 4 month old baby, I traded in my '96 Mitsubishi Spyder GST Convertible for the Scion and it is the best purchase we ever made. If you are low on $$$, at least you will be able to afford a Scion, we pay $40 dollars less a month on car payments (compared to my convertible) AND we traded in my car with no money down. Plus, we got the spoiler, fog lights and 6 disc CD changer added on...all for about $21,000!! Good Deal :clap:

Good luck with your wife! I hope she changes her mind soon so you can have a reliable and affordable car for your family!!! And, who's car is this anyways??? What does she drive? :blah:

Keep us updated, this oughta be interesting!

My wife isn't too fond of the xB either, but I think we both realize that we can't afford much more than an xB right now.

I think it'll do about 85% of what we want it to do. I guess that means no more back woods camping or off-roading for me. :(

I was like your wife... I hated all things scion and xB!

It wasn't until I finally got a good look at it, saw how practical it was, and test drove it that I fell in love. Get her into the showroom somehow. Beg if you have too! :pray:

Like mold on cheese, the box will grow on her

My wife's first reaction when I said I wanted an xB was "OK, but I'll never ride in it". Now she says she'd get one for herself, if only the seats were softer.

Take your wife, the kid and the carseat to the Scion dealer. Have her put the carseat in the xB and climb in the back next to it. Close all the doors. Now go do the same thing to the tC...

You've GOT to get her inside one. That's where you see how smartly it's built, how much room you have and she'll forget about the outside for a little while. If you have a dealer nearby, go get on a test drive, go by your house and just make her get in and ride.

Also, do some comparisons of what insurance and gas would cost on those cars she likes compared to the xB. If finances are tight, that's the other costs that will make a difference down the road.

Good Luck...

Take your wife, the kid and the carseat to the Scion dealer. Have her put the carseat in the xB and climb in the back next to it. Close all the doors. Now go do the same thing to the tC...

You've GOT to get her inside one. That's where you see how smartly it's built, how much room you have and she'll forget about the outside for a little while. If you have a dealer nearby, go get on a test drive, go by your house and just make her get in and ride.

Also, do some comparisons of what insurance and gas would cost on those cars she likes compared to the xB. If finances are tight, that's the other costs that will make a difference down the road.

Good Luck...


ive taken her to see one but she tried her best just to ignore everything because of her mindset of hating the car. i do agree that if i can get her in one her mind might change. with the baby, she often times likes to ride in the back so she can tend to her. also even with a 4 door when the car seat is in the back you cant slide the front seat back or recline it very well. i dont see this as being a problem with the xB.

as far as whos car it is.. technically it would be mine since i would be trading my car for it, but it would also be hers since its for our family and i work 12 hours a day (and still dont make ANY money!). her car is a 99 Accord V6. in all weve had 5 Hondas so we're pretty loyal to them. Its this last 03 civic Si that is changing our minds a bit. I blame it on the first time use of a british assembly plant, but she blames it on it being their low end model(civic), even though her 94 civic was a great car.

I say it's time to start looking for a new wife.

The xB and a baby's car seat are made for each other. With the high, wide opening doors, and the seat height, it does not involve much bending/twisting to attach the seat firmly in place. I read a review from a newer mother in NY, on the internet, and she loved it for her "small" passengers, and if only one little one, that leave the folddown other 1/3 for groceries or whatever. Hope it works out for you.

like the topic says, i like the xB and want to trade my 03 Civic Si in for one. only problem (besides my credit!) is my wife loathes the xB. she says its the ugliest vehicle on the road period. calls it a cheaply made astrovan wanna-be wagon and questions its reliability. heh she also hates my current car and also calls it an ugly wagon, even though its a hatchback. anyways im doing everything i can to convince her an xB is a good choice for us. we have a 4 month old and our two door cars arent cutting it. plus im upside down on the loan with my Si and, for a honda.. its pretty crappy as far as quality goes. her priorities seem to be style, reliability, style, style again, and lastly performance. mine, since the addition of our baby and our lack of money, are price, reliability, gas mileage, room, and then style. performance would be nice but im trying to get away from all of that since its too costly to build a motor and pay for tickets heh. performance is my passion, but i guess i need to grow up a little. id love to be able to sale my car and get rid of a car payment and high insurance and get an old accord 4dr for cash and do an h22 swap, but then as i said, im upside down with the Si.. i wouldnt be able to sale it and pay the difference on what i owe.
:doh:


so any thoughts on what i should do overall or how to talk the wife into considering the xB?

thanks
- Chris

My son had the same problem, except he thought it was ugly too. I just told him to humor me and go take it on a 15 test drive and look at the room inside for the two kids and baggage. He called me back a few hours later and told me he bought it. Months down the road, they both love it. You might tell your wife you'll never mention it again if she'll go on the test drive with you with an open mind. It can't be any worse than where you are now.

Ken

I say it's time to start looking for a new wife.

if she is giving you such a hard time about it...^^^^^^^^

punch out mavrick, punch out....

Who cares, you're the one driving it.

Check out this 2 page thread:

My wife is ____ed with my new Xb!
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47724

Also this one:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47705

:P RPM

I say it's time to start looking for a new wife.


:lol: :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :rofl:
Good One!

like the topic says, i like the xB and want to trade my 03 Civic Si in for one. only problem (besides my credit!) is my wife loathes the xB. she says its the ugliest vehicle on the road period. calls it a cheaply made astrovan wanna-be wagon and questions its reliability. heh she also hates my current car and also calls it an ugly wagon, even though its a hatchback. anyways im doing everything i can to convince her an xB is a good choice for us. we have a 4 month old and our two door cars arent cutting it. plus im upside down on the loan with my Si and, for a honda.. its pretty crappy as far as quality goes. her priorities seem to be style, reliability, style, style again, and lastly performance. mine, since the addition of our baby and our lack of money, are price, reliability, gas mileage, room, and then style. performance would be nice but im trying to get away from all of that since its too costly to build a motor and pay for tickets heh. performance is my passion, but i guess i need to grow up a little. id love to be able to sale my car and get rid of a car payment and high insurance and get an old accord 4dr for cash and do an h22 swap, but then as i said, im upside down with the Si.. i wouldnt be able to sale it and pay the difference on what i owe.
:doh:


so any thoughts on what i should do overall or how to talk the wife into considering the xB?

thanks
- Chris


You're wife sounds hateful and cranky.

If it is going to be YOUR car, she doesn't have to like it.

I think you ought to do just enough convincing to get her to come along for a test drive. Once she sees it's not a "cheaply made Astrovan" maybe she'll changer her tune.

If not, then you have bigger problems than what car to buy next, good luck with that. :lalala:

BTW, if you think she hates it now, wait until you get sucked into the Scion Life... her hatred is just at the starting gate. hehehe

"cheaply made Astrovan" ? Thats funny ! I've got 167,000 miles on my 95 Astro and have had no major problems yet. It's almost all highway but if I can even come close with my XB I'd be really surprised. I hope so though.

My wife sold her 2002 Color Concept New Beetle, "Snap Orange" to get something practical for the family. She loved that car and the Turbo was quick. But it sucked in the snow ! She bought a big SUV for hauling the kids and plowing thru the winter crud. Well ya know, it hardly snowed at all, and I decided to finally get something with nice milage for myself. I drive 70 a day to work and back. She actually pushed me into buying something new. So I bought a Hot Lava XB. Man is she ____ed ! Not because it's ugly, but because it's so cool ! She loves the thing. So she dumps her VW for an SUV and I end up with the sporty vehicle. She wants to drive it all the time but ya know I am the one who works so far away ! Too Bad !

Um, yeah. Looking over this I'm guessing you're both fairly young (well under 30), and as such probably have some unreasonable expectations about serious relationships. Long and short of it is you're asking us how to tiptoe around your unbending SO without upsetting her. The answer? You can't.

Let's make some things clear. Your name is not "daddy." Her name is not "little princess." Young and dumb days where you could be silly and immature are gone, and have been for 13 months. It's time to grow up.

First, you need to relize that there is no "easy out" here. You're going to have to sit her down, and tell her, most likely in a stern manner, that you have a limited budget with limited options and you're choosing what best fits your needs. You're already going to get bent over with what will effectively be a double car note, and there's no reason to "floss" with money much better spent on the little one's proper care and upbringing.

Then there's her. Allow me to be blunt here: She needs to GROW THE HELL UP. She is not a highschooler, nor is she a valley girl mallrat. She is a MOTHER and a WIFE, and needs to start thinking like one, NOW. She needs to get two things into her skull post haste: One: putting the ignorant perceptions of others before your own needs is the very hallmark of immaturity (think about it, her whole gripe boils down to "but what will all the cool kids think?!"), and Two: compromise in relationships does not equate into the male giving up everything to keep the female happy, she needs to bend just as much. Basically she needs to stop acting like a spoiled brat, and start acting like a responsible person, or karma's going to pop up and go "hello!" 16 years from now when your kid is an uncontrollable monster.

Seriously man, it's not happily ever after once you say "I do." In fact it's NEVER happily ever after. It's all about going through the trials and tribulations together, supporting one another. Which is what she's not doing. She's going, "This sucks and I don't want to deal with it, you do all the work and make sure I'm completely happy with the results." You know what, she doesn't like or want an xB, great! She has every right to express her opinion in the matter... but she needs to come up with REASONABLE alternatives, rather than whining about your inability to crap rolls of Benjamins in order to increase the car shopping budget by over ten thousand dollars. If she can't, tough. You get an xB and she rightfully suffers the consequences of her actions.

Okay, enough ranting from me for now.

You need to put her in check

Tell her if she don't like your ride, then take the bus!

ive thought about using the test drive as a way to win her over, but she wont even get in it to test drive. i played a joke on her a couple of days ago and told her i talked with scion and they told me i was preapproved and could come pick up my scion that day.. she nearly cried. she was whining 'but i dont want that car!!! cant they give us a TC instead?" which would make the trade pointless since the main reason is because we need a 4 door.

if i can get financed i might would just get it behind her back and let it grow on her ;)

From your description of her thus far, I would so be leaving her.

Anywho, on a lighter note, if you know your credit score, you'll know what kind of
financing you can get. It's that simple.

I had a room mate that left me with about 15k of debt, and really thrashed my
credit. I got shafted with 12% financing, but at least I got a new car.
A good phat down payment helps too. I put $4500 down on it.

I say get it anyway. I bet she will be driving more than you. :)

Then there's her. Allow me to be blunt here: She needs to GROW THE HELL UP. She is not a highschooler, nor is she a valley girl mallrat. She is a MOTHER and a WIFE, and needs to start thinking like one, NOW. She needs to get two things into her skull post haste: One: putting the ignorant perceptions of others before your own needs is the very hallmark of immaturity (think about it, her whole gripe boils down to "but what will all the cool kids think?!"), and Two: compromise in relationships does not equate into the male giving up everything to keep the female happy, she needs to bend just as much. Basically she needs to stop acting like a spoiled brat, and start acting like a responsible person, or karma's going to pop up and go "hello!" 16 years from now when your kid is an uncontrollable monster.

Seriously man, it's not happily ever after once you say "I do." In fact it's NEVER happily ever after. It's all about going through the trials and tribulations together, supporting one another. Which is what she's not doing. She's going, "This sucks and I don't want to deal with it, you do all the work and make sure I'm completely happy with the results." You know what, she doesn't like or want an xB, great! She has every right to express her opinion in the matter... but she needs to come up with REASONABLE alternatives, rather than whining about your inability to crap rolls of Benjamins in order to increase the car shopping budget by over ten thousand dollars. If she can't, tough. You get an xB and she rightfully suffers the consequences of her actions.

he beat me to it.. your wife is being unreasonably closed minded! take the pants off of her and U WEAR IT!
I [and i mean ABSOLUTELY] HATE that type of women. c'mon what is she thinking? you cant afford a damn maxima or a lexus or bmw! smack her with the reality that those carz are outta reach and they are not as reliable as a TOYOTA, which WILL become the world's #1 car maker soon when GM flunkz completely. if the xB is as bad as she thinkz then why is so many people out there with one?? with all the featurez and optionz there is in it should've costed as much as a maxima or bmw. its a perfect family car and a great car to whip around the block. and U MAKE SURE to tell her this, the astro van shes talking about is from GM, and the xB is from TOYOTA. NOTHING ALIKE AT ALL, GMs got NOTHING on Toyota, TOYOTAS will KICK GM's ___ ALL OVER! period.

instead of trying to get her to get inside a xB or test driving it first.. sit her little stubborn ___ down in front of your computer and MAKE HER READ THIS FORUM, especially everyone's post on this topic. even women ownerz are telling her to STFU and GROW UP! and you gotta put her in her place! she has her own car so what could possibly be so bad if u went and got a xB!? it'll be YOUR car! dont get me wrong here im not the "oh im a man and dont take no orders from my woman" type of guy, im just ____ed that your wife is being hard headed when she is sooo very wrong. im telling ya man, just make her read these posts then she'll see how unreasonable she is being. if not, then i'd say leave that _____! :rofl: jk

I am very lucky in that my wife likes the xB, and has from the get-go. We narrowed it down to the Element, the Mini Cooper and the xB. The Element just sucked every way you looked at it. The Mini is too small. The xB was perfect. And when we opened the back door...what thu?!? We have a son and we really wanted something that would give him a lot of space in the back seat to be comfortable. No other car has a back seat like the xB, not even mini-vans. They are all so incredibly confined and claustrophobic. And for the price? You cannot lose. And she will learn to love it, especially if she spends a lot of time in the back seat with the little one.

But don't take my word for it. Have her take the word of the editors at Car & Driver, who drive everything, including the luxury and pseudo-luxury badges that she craves. I've subscribed to that magazine for years, and trust, me, they have never raved like this for an "entry-level" car, which is their whole point:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=6995&page_number=3

So get one now before Toyota wises up and jacks the price.

And, hey, maybe tell her it's just temporary transpo to help save you guys money, avoid the minivan route (always a solid diversionary tactic) and get you thru the rough patch so that you CAN get her the car of her dreams down the road!

My money says she won't want another car after the xB...and if she does, well you'll already have your xB and then maybe you guys will be able to squeeze in a tC. Two Scions is definitely better than one BMW, Mazda, Lexus, or Nissan.

Come to think of it, one Scion is better than two of any of those.

We're all pulling for you, man. Good luck, and hang in there. Oh yeah, and sorry to hear about the Si being a POS. I wanted those cars to be cool. Honda is blowing it these days...

p.s. Tell her you can get a factory "Ill" switch, too. Maybe that will tip her in our direction. :pray:

u need to win the lottery.....

Holy cow essvid, you need your own forum. Sort of like a Dear Ann Landers type of format where forum users can write all of their E/N problems to you, and you can solve their issues with seething commentary.

*golf clap*

Then there's her. Allow me to be blunt here: She needs to GROW THE HELL UP. She is not a highschooler, nor is she a valley girl mallrat. She is a MOTHER and a WIFE, and needs to start thinking like one, NOW.

he beat me to it.. your wife is being unreasonably closed minded! take the pants off of her and U WEAR IT!
I [and i mean ABSOLUTELY] HATE that type of women. c'mon what is she thinking? you cant afford a damn maxima or a lexus or bmw!

HELLOOOO!!! Woman driver here with a baby who is a mother and soon-to-be wife talking...she needs to get a reality check and look at that big picture! You need to smack her upside the head and then just go out and get one. :rofl:

It's not about her, it's about you and your family and she needs to realize that. Let me talk some sense into this woman!! LOL!! :rolling:

thanks for all of your input. heh i showed her this post last night. she tried to defend herself, but i think some of the statements made her do some thinking. she still doesnt want me to get it, but said that its my car so i can get whatever i want. she said she still wont drive it or ride in it, but i think that will end up changing. i have to agree with what essvid said, but i have to admit that i am also stubborn and immature at times. anyways im going to try to get financed for it. if they dont give me enough on a trade-in or require more of a down payment then i guess its just fate telling me that i dont need the xB. i figure either way i cant be any worse off than i already am. if i do get financed then all i have left to decide is if i want BOP or BSP.. im kinda leaning twards BSP so i can go JDM ;) and i remember hearing bad things about BOP paint quality.
thanks again
- chris

oh and this time instead of calling it a crap astrovan wannabe she called it an SUV for midgets. haha

:yawn: I didnt even bother to look any further then the first few posts. Your in trouble. It appears that your wife has not yet grown up. To say that she " hates that car!" just is not mature. And you have children?

Here is what i suggest. Find out what you owe on your Honda. Then list it privately to sell. If you trade it, then your just piling on the loan from your Honda, and that would defeat the purpose. Try and sell it for all its worth. Dont take the first offer on it. Ask family to help you make up the difference on the loan ( Honda ). Then go in and see what your Scion Dealer cant do for ya. If your credit score is low, try asking your local banks for an auto loan.

That is, if you can get over the fact that your wife wants something that is just out of your reach right now. Dont get in over your heads, bankruptcy law is changing, and your wont be able to right it all off in the near future like you could in the past. JMO

You can F a man's wife, but don't F with a man's car.

drop the wife pick up a new xB and a women while your at it...
kill 2 birds with one stone

:yawn: I didnt even bother to look any further then the first few posts. Your in trouble. It appears that your wife has not yet grown up. To say that she " hates that car!" just is not mature. And you have children?

Here is what i suggest. Find out what you owe on your Honda. Then list it privately to sell. If you trade it, then your just piling on the loan from your Honda, and that would defeat the purpose. Try and sell it for all its worth. Dont take the first offer on it. Ask family to help you make up the difference on the loan ( Honda ). Then go in and see what your Scion Dealer cant do for ya. If your credit score is low, try asking your local banks for an auto loan.

That is, if you can get over the fact that your wife wants something that is just out of your reach right now. Dont get in over your heads, bankruptcy law is changing, and your wont be able to right it all off in the near future like you could in the past. JMO



Yeah youre right, neither one of us is grown up. I am just 23 myself. And our child, well, i HATE saying this because it sounds so bad but she wasnt planned. My wife had some sort of hormonal problem and wasnt supposed to be able to get pregnant.

As far as selling the honda privately.. id LOVE to do that. getting into the honda was a mistake in the first place.. i should have just fixed my integra. heh my parents told me not to do it, but you know how well kids listen to their parents. my only problem with selling the honda is that i owe $15K+ because of my high interest rate, and well the latest generation of Si's are considered to be a flop and have no resale value. i see some with similar mileage going for 11.5-13.5. as far as getting a family member to help out, all of my family is poor so there no way for them to come up with the money. our original plan was to use our income tax refund to make up the difference, but we had a few bills due and some unexpected things come up so we nolonger have enough to make up that difference. i was hoping to use whats left as a down payment on the scion since i see no other way out of the honda. as i said, id really love to just sale the honda and save up some cash to buy an old accord or something so i can get rid of a car payment and high insurance, but i just dont see a way to accomplish this.

as someone posted earlier, it looks like i just need to win the lottery :silly: i know its not true, but it seems like all my problems would be solved then.

The key word is "Partnership", and baby makes 3. The xB is a reliable, unique car, and it is what you would like to drive. At some time, your wife will probably need to drive it (her car being repaired for example). I would ask her for some input if she is mature enough to give you input, and not pout. If she pouts, get what you want and can finance. What color would she like best, even though she does not like the style/uniqueness of the xB, there has to be a color she would prefer. I assume that you would still like the xB, even if it was not in your 2 color choices? If color is most important, there are a lot of black cars out there. What is important to you? Hopefully, Peace and Harmony. Hope it works out for both of you.

Here are some good reasons for getting an xB:

Good gas mileage. With all factory drivetrain and factory alloy wheels, I regularly get 33 MPG city, 35 MPG highway. When gas prices hit $2.50-$2.75 a gallon this summer, she'll really appreciate the savings.
visibility. The seating position and design of the vehicle offers great visibility. Although it appears to be very low, it actually sits higher than many cars.
rear seat access. Unlike most sedans, getting access to the rear seats (important with a 4 month old) is extremely easy and has plent of room. Oftentimes the rear wheel well cuts into the lower portion of the rear door making it a tight squeeze (the worst I've seen on a 4 door is the classic Jeep Cherokee)
standard cargo room. With all seats in their normal position there is more cargo space behind the rear seat than most regular sized minivans. Certainly enough to do a week's worth of grocery shopping.
maximum cargo room. With the rear seats folded down, there is an incredible amount of cargo room. We've taken our "milk truck" to IKEA quite a few times and loaded it up with stuff. It's great to see giggles and snickers fade to dropped jaws as on-lookers see just how much the box can hold.
fully-loaded/hassle-free. All of the "options" are included in the base price. Power windows, doorlocks, CD/MP3 player, power mirrors, AC, etc. etc. are all included.
unique. You won't need one of those goofy antenna balls to spot this thing in the mall's parking lot. ;) Life's too busy and serious to not take an opportunity to do something different...and fun.
It's NOT!. Going along with it being unique, IT's NOT... a minivan, IT's NOT... an SUV, IT's NOT... a boring economy sedan.


I'm sure that others can come up with even more reasons.

My wife absolutely loves our xB, which is my primary vehicle. And if we hadn't already bought her an '04 Yellow MINI Cooper, I'm sure I'd be handing this over to her. :)

hmm, I'll be nice :eyebrow:
See if she would be willing to look at and test drive one. My opinion of it at first was along those lines, but not as bad, and once I saw them on the lot and took one out for a spin, my mind was totally changed. They rock.

Just my 2 cents

women is all about style. for men it's about practicality and performance. xB is the way to go. put the woman in her place.

yeah.. once i find time to get my Si all nice and clean im going to try to sale it for within $1000-$1500 of what i owe. after a few weeks if i cant sale it (which will probably happen) then i will take that $1000-$1500 and try to put a down payment on an xB. hopefully theyll have the one i want in stock.. i hate having to wait for things ;)
thanks
- Chris

Look on some sites to see what your going rate is on your Honda. www.kbb.com ... www.autotrader.com and the like. Try your damndist on selling it privately, if you trade, youll end up in worse condition.

Talk to your local Scion Dealer. You cant hide anything, so dont try. Have him/her make the best deal as possible. Both trade in and payments on the new box. Keep in mind, dont make your payments any higher then you can afford. Yeah, sure you would love to have a new car to ride in, but if you or your wife misses work, or ends up on the un-employment line, youll be ____ out of luck. Dont get in over your head.

You can always just leave your keys in the Honda ... :lalala:

Ikid Ikid

Look on some sites to see what your going rate is on your Honda. www.kbb.com ... www.autotrader.com and the like. Try your damndist on selling it privately, if you trade, youll end up in worse condition.

Talk to your local Scion Dealer. You cant hide anything, so dont try. Have him/her make the best deal as possible. Both trade in and payments on the new box. Keep in mind, dont make your payments any higher then you can afford. Yeah, sure you would love to have a new car to ride in, but if you or your wife misses work, or ends up on the un-employment line, youll be ____ out of luck. Dont get in over your head.

You can always just leave your keys in the Honda ... :lalala:

Ikid Ikid


ive checked out KBB, NADA, edmunds, autotrader, and my dad is a car salesman so ive even seen blackbook. i will probably lose around ~3K on trading the Si. so yeah, not something that i want to do. like you said, i may end up keeping the si. i plan on doing it in that order: 1 try to sale privately, 2 see if scion will give me low interest and good trade-in value, 3 if all else fails i will just put up with the Si until i get rich

My wife didn't like the xB, test drove it, and still didn't like it.
What to do? :question:

She feels the car is too small, too dangerous for me to drive 60 miles back and forth to work everyday. Well, its true that the xB has no side airbags and I may get rock chips easily on the interstate, too.

I asked her about t2B, well, she said whatever...

yeah, my wife hates the xb too... but thats good for me, now she wont want to drive my ride around, she can stay in hers :) i'm in the process of upgrading the sound right now, that way she really wont want to drive it :rofl: but she has her little SUV, i have my toaster on wheels... but my kids love it, they dont want to ride in her SUV anymore, and after i'm done with all the mods, they'll forget we have a second vehicle :rolling:

I own a 1988 Toyota 4runner 4x4 5 speed 4cyl with 300,001 miles on it engine has never been rebuilt and little or no rust on her she will turn over every time and because it's made by toyota i don't even carry any tools in it unlike my old car a vw beetle. Do what you have to do cuz everybody hated the XB when it came out but now everybody driving one. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :nope: :nope:

haha thats the same thing wit my grlfriend,she hates it,but she's the stupid 1 who co-signed on the loan...so now she'll have to put up with it for 4 yrs or until she leaves hehehe

I posted a thread similiar...but in this case my husband hates it! I came back from the dealership all excited, popped in their DVD from the dealership, and he asked which one I was interested in. When I told him the xb, he said THAT UGLY A$$ THING, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT....I THOUGHT YOU WANTED THE SPORTCAR LOOKING ONE! He says it is a "novelty", and I am making a big mistake. We're my feelings hurt? NO
I've done my homework....I've read about 20 hours on the subject, and was most pleased to read on edmunds.com, the editors voted it the "most wanted vehicle for 2005." It was also listed as "Lowest true cost to own for 2005", Rated 8.2 from editors and 9.4 from the people that own them. It was voted "top 10 for cars under $15,000...top 10 for "Most fuel efficient"....and the number one reason to own the xb.....It was voted in the "top 10 hippest vehicle"....yes the xb shares it with the mini cooper, pt cruiser and honda element. At any rate I'm getting a blue one with the spoiler this summer with or without his "approval", since I'm paying for it. Good luck, Liz

my wife hates the xB as well, so i got a 5 speed. (she can't drive a 5 speed) Bwhahahahaha