ok if i'm going to do some tastefuly chrome touches

i'm gonna do a chrome FIRE EXTINGUISHER (godda love copy and paste :silly: )

some thing like this

link http://www.mooneyesusa.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=781

http://www.mooneyesusa.com/ProductImages/parts2/aa700.jpg

too me that is very tasteful on the chrome

now for the question

where would i mount it at thats at is good place to reach it at???

and will not be in the away of anything!!!

Under the glove compartment, that's where most people mount it.

Then again, chances are that you will never use it. A friend of mine bought one for his car a few years ago saying that it's insurance for his rx7. He never used it once, now it's just collecting dust.

The expiration tag still reads nov 2001 :P

To each his own I guess.

i'll have to check that out later maybe tomorrow...

I've had fire extinguishers in most of my vehicles (none in my xB, yet) and never used them on my own rig. I HAVE, however, used five of 'em on other people's car fires. :)

As to location, just remember NOT to put them where you expect the fire to be - if you mount them where there's likely to be fire, how will you get to it if there is?

(Thanks for reminding me - now I need to go out and get one for my xB!)

EDIT: Whooo! I just saw the price on those good looking Moon units - Ouch!

What ever you do DO NOT put it on the A-Pillar ... It doesn't get much worse than that

mine's rolling around the foot well in the xB :) The small one from lowes fits in the rear cuop holder type thingy well, (I think the xA's have this too). But, I put an armrest in there :lol: Now, I can't figure out where to put mine either. I'm thinking in the rear somewhere.

i think...

just too keep in mind i think it should be like in arms leanth away from you for easy access you know what i mean

do not put it in the front seat area anywhere. a. that's where the fire will most likely be first, b. it becomes a projectile if you are in a wreck and c. most times you will need it will be for someone elses car.

as a firefighter, i say keep one in the space near the rear tire well if you have easy access to your wheel. if you have a system, mount one with brackets to the top, side, or in between two subs on the box itself. another popular place is along the base of the cargo area next to the wheel well.

^^^ now thats a good idea put it in the back but sence its chrome 'n' all its godda be shown to the rest of the world

under the toun-o cover :silly: but it should be mounted on top i think unless that would be a hazard os some sort???

I'd put it in the rear compartment where the jack is...

Got to have the fire extinguisher.

It's an essential ricer mod. Make sure it is where people can see it.

You'll need some more NOS and GReddy stickers after that to balance it out.

F!@# the stickers i aint a sticker man i know my limits on stickers i aint advertisin what i have under the hood or suspension mods i have no freakin way!!!

I had one on an old mustang and in fact did have to use it once. Used to freak people out telling them that the car they were riding in had a fire. In fact it had two fires, one was electrical and went out on its own when I removed the voltage.

That car was never boring.

Anyhow, under the driver's seat or passenger's seat is good enough. Its not likely to become a projectile, but its still reasonably accessible and the install is no trouble. If you really want to install it I'd say put it in the passenger side footwell by the transmission housing.

yeah but ppl likes to slid the passenger seat back and forward :roll:

What ever you do DO NOT put it on the A-Pillar ... It doesn't get much worse than that

:rofl:

Yep, that is definitely 3Fast 3Furious there.

A fire extinguisher is completely unnecessary unless you're expecting your engine to catch fire for some reason. It just looks really fukin ricey man, sorry. A-pillar or not, if you're bolting up a fire extinguisher in your car and you aren't in NASCAR, then you are a riceboy. You may as well paint chinese characters on your car and get a Wings West bodykit and paint it primer gray.

What's next? a hood ejector button? :rofl: just kidding...

then you need a buttion to drop the fuel and engine or eject the engine and watch it too see how high it'll go

ok this post is getting off topic now if you wish you can lock it now

I'm guessing some people here are young and or just haven't been on the road much. I can't even count the number of cars I've seen burned. I carry one with me at all times. Not even really for my car, cause I have full coverage and I'll let it burn rather than have some crappy half burnt repaired car. I carry it for the OTHER people I see burnin on the road. It's part of my "I drive 100 miles a day in the middle of nowhere" package.

A fire extinguisher is completely unnecessary unless you're expecting your engine to catch fire for some reason. It just looks really fukin ricey man, sorry. A-pillar or not, if you're bolting up a fire extinguisher in your car and you aren't in NASCAR, then you are a riceboy. You may as well paint chinese characters on your car and get a Wings West bodykit and paint it primer gray. :blah:

Sorry, kid, I've had fire extinguishers in my vehicles since my '55 Chevy 210 in the early '60's, and as I've said above I've used five of 'em on other's cars over the years. Having a fire extinguisher aboard 'just in case' is no more ricey than having a spare tire, a screwdriver, a flashlight, or a jack.

(I also have three fire extinguishers here in the apartment: One in the kitchen, one between the bedrooms, and a Halon in the computer room/office.)

Now if the fire extinguisher is there just for looks, yeah, that's sad, but having one handy, and knowing how to use it, is just being prepared.

:clap: well done Tomas. yea i havent gotten one for mine yet but eventually i would like to . this is my question though... in extreme heat or cold is there a chance it could explode (this is ironic since im askin of a FIRE extinguisher) but i never really thought about it until now. we get all the extremes in nebraska and dont want it exploding inside of my car. but yea.... i would like to eventually throw one in there if not for mine, but the poor eclipse owner on the side of the road whose nitrous exploded their green car :lalala: :P <(this is a joke) any help would be great :bow:

so whats the diff. on the HALON and HALOTRON well besides the price and what does each one do???

A fire extinguisher is completely unnecessary unless you're expecting your engine to catch fire for some reason. It just looks really fukin ricey man, sorry. A-pillar or not, if you're bolting up a fire extinguisher in your car and you aren't in NASCAR, then you are a riceboy. You may as well paint chinese characters on your car and get a Wings West bodykit and paint it primer gray. :blah:

Sorry, kid, I've had fire extinguishers in my vehicles since my '55 Chevy 210 in the early '60's, and as I've said above I've used five of 'em on other's cars over the years. Having a fire extinguisher aboard 'just in case' is no more ricey than having a spare tire, a screwdriver, a flashlight, or a jack.

(I also have three fire extinguishers here in the apartment: One in the kitchen, one between the bedrooms, and a Halon in the computer room/office.)

Now if the fire extinguisher is there just for looks, yeah, that's sad, but having one handy, and knowing how to use it, is just being prepared.

I hear you.

I've been driving for "only" 15 years, but I've never had the need for one and I'm not a one man rescue crew. My cars don't catch fire, at least they haven't yet. Most people don't have fire extinguishers on board.

If I drove some old vehicle, I might carry one. I don't think there is anything wrong with it on the surface, but someone buying a chrome one for a brand new Toyota and asking where to mount it?

Come on now, we all know that's rice dude. It will NEVER get used. I can't tell you how many Civic's Ive seen with a huge wings and sponsor stickers all over them and the fire extinguisher proudly mounted in a prominent position. It's a rice boy tactic to make you look like you're in a race car.

Maybe I'm too young (32) to appreciate the need for a fire extinguisher in the car, but then you are too old to know rice when you see it.

It's only rice if you make a shrine in your car for it. If you put it under your seat or in the rear tire compartment, it's safety.

It's only rice if you make a shrine in your car for it. If you put it under your seat or in the rear tire compartment, it's safety.

Agreed.

so whats the diff. on the HALON and HALOTRON well besides the price and what does each one do???

First off, don't plan on getting any Halon or other flourocarbon-based extinguishers - the manufacture of them was outlawed a decade ago in the US and Canada.

Halon is an 'ozone depleting flurocarbon' that is strongly frowned upon these days. Originally it was 'the thing' for putting out fires in 'occupied spaces' because it was a breathable gas that reduced the availability of oxygen to a level low enough that a fire could not continue, but at the same time would not kill the people around it or knock them out. It also would not damage precision equipment or electronics.

There really aren't any viable substitutes for Halon for 'home use' and just about any other decent agent for fire suppression in the home can destroy computers, electric motors, and such, and damage other things. (One that doesn't do much of that is a CO2 extinguisher, but use in confined spaces causes health concerns.)

So, I still have a fairly good sized Halon unit (22 pound), never used, from the eighties. I hope never to use it. Thing is, until there is a viable home substitute, they'll have to pry it from my hands.

So, forget Halon. I never mentioned it. :lalala:

(If one is really interested in Halon extinguishers, the US EPA contracted for a really excellent report available here in PDF format: http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/fire/status.pdf that discusses portable extinguishers starting about page 5, and again on about page 35.)

(One that doesn't do much of that is a CO2 extinguisher, but use in confined spaces causes health concerns.)


Yeah but even that small bit of caustic agent can cause surface corrosion on metal surfaces. Its better than letting your car burn, but you're gonna have one heck of a clean-up job to do even if you do get the fire out in time.

I can see why people think its kinda ricey for a brand new car. When I carried one it was in a 19 year old car. Even then it got comments... "Why do you have a fire extinguisher?" "In case I have another fire." "ANOTHER?!?!?"

The only thing about carrying it for other people's burning cars that you come across is that in my experience you have to get the extinguisher on the fire very early on to be able to fight it. If you're driving along and some guy is standing next to his flaming car waving at traffic for help you're already probably too late. Its really easy to get seriously burned opening the hood on a car fire if the fire is already pretty well going. A tiny extinguisher won't make much difference. Maybe carry it anyway to use on the PEOPLE, but I wouldn't count on saving someone else's car with it.

Yup ^^ and I bought mine about the same time I put my stereo system in ;-)

Hey, check out this thread if you're interested in fires in brand new Scions.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=54289&highlight=

His windows were all closed so the fire starved for oxygen and put itself out, but it did a lot of damage to his interior in the process...

Halon is an 'ozone depleting flurocarbon' that is strongly frowned upon these days. Originally it was 'the thing' for putting out fires in 'occupied spaces' because it was a breathable gas that reduced the availability of oxygen to a level low enough that a fire could not continue, but at the same time would not kill the people around it or knock them out. It also would not damage precision equipment or electronics.


You are partially Correct here.
U.S. Navy Damage control handbook requires all spaces protected by Halon 1301 systems to have a 30-60 second delay (depending on size of space) to allow personnel to evacuate the space. Because Halon 1301 will cause unconciousness and even death.

After Halon activation only personnel equipped with SCBA or OBA's are authorized entrance to the space until the space has been "blownout' (High velocity fans that blow out air from a space) for 15-30 minutes (again depending on size of space)

Damage Control is a Serious issue onboard a ship. Every person onboard must be completely familiar with it.

I've actually seen someone passed out from Halon and they were flown off the ship almost as quickly as they got them out of the space.

Halon must come in different concentrations or something. M1A1 Abrams have them and they do not evacuate the crew when using it.

i'd mount it in the kitchen, thats where it would be most useful, :P but dont mind me... put it where u like.

Yup. The Navy runs their suppression systems at a higher concentration of Halon than is legitimate for most civilian systems.

In civilian commercial uses where an entire 'room' is flooded, if the space can be evacuated in under 60 seconds we were allowed to bring the oxy levels down to 10 percent - if the area could not be evacuated in that time, we were only allowed to bring it down to 12 percent (this is from memory, so I may be slightly off).

That 2 percent difference was the difference between people still moving and people laying on the floor... (These were in "equipment room" environments with millions of dollars of equipment installed, very limited flammables, and few people normally about.)

I am not familiar enough with the Navy stuff to know their expressed limits (I was USAF), but considering how serious a shipboard fire can be, and the number and types of flammables onboard, I suspect that the Navy brings the oxy levels in some spaces well below 'safe limits' to ensure that the fire is *OUT*.

(In the USAF some Halon is used on the flightline and aboard aircraft for instant fire suppression - the oxy levels there are allowed to reach near zero...)

Here at home, my 22 pound extinguisher is adequate for the space it's in, and should allow me enough time to kill the fire, get out of the room, close the door, and call 911. :)

you are right. the fire extinguisher will probably not put out a fire in someone's car, but it will stop a small brush fire from becoming a forest fire, and will also knock back flames far enough to rescue someone from a burning car.

hey some of us want to be extra cautious in our daily driving habits. leave us be. personally i carry, an extra change of clothes, a light jacket, small $5 fleece blanket, a fire extinguisher, small tool kit, flashlight, bungee cords, and soon will add to the mix my EMS Jump bag. A lot of it is stuff I started carrying when living at home in NY for snow season and my long 2 hour commute. But most of it doubles as emergency safety equipment. And with the rear tire well in the xA designed as it is, all but the jump bag will fit under the cargo deck cover.

Better safe than sorry

I've seen some of the cars around here with Nitrous that have a fixed CO2 System in the engine compartment "in case of a fire". I thought it was pretty silly myself.

Yup, xA RS ChickLA. It often won't save a car, but it can save a life.

Last one I used on another car was a few winters ago when a VW lost traction on a freeway entrance (142, Auburn - he hit some black ice) right in front of me, flipped when it hit the edge, rolled and landed down the hill on it's roof.

The driver was injured and unconcious (he was wearing his belts, but got his head slammed into the driver's door) and there was fire just starting to get into the passenger compartment from the engine compartment by the time I and two other guys got to the updside down VW. (The electric fuel pump appeared to be still pumping fuel out of the broken gas line.)

I knocked down the interior fire enough for us to cut his belts and drag him out onto my surplus Army blanket and away from the burning car.

By the time the fire department got there (and they were quick) the VW was a total loss with all four tires burning and the gas tank making a quiet "whump" as it went up. The fire folks had a heck of a time killing the fire.

The driver was airlifted to Madigan (military hospital) because of his head injuries where he spent a few days. He recovered fully.

Without the extinguisher from my 4X4 we may not have been able to get him out.

(I never did see that old Army blanket again...)

time for a new one :wink: go hit up your local surplus store :wink:

I got several 'new' ones after that, hornet. I usually kept two in each vehicle, along with a serious first aid kit, the usual flashlight and tools, and a car-powered rooftop amber strobe. (I'm one of the crazies that stops to help instead of gawking while driving by...)