View Full Version : tC2 catted header from Dezod Motorsports
paul_dezod 02-01-2012, 04:38 PM http://www.dezod.com/admin/images/logo/DezodLogoNEW.jpg
Properties:
*304 SS tubing
*Optimized runner configuration
*6" long true 4-1 pyramid merge collector
*Direct bolt-on to factory S-pipe
*Precision CNC cut head flange
*49 state legal 200 cell high flow cat
*Made in the USA
*Handcrafted in house
On to the verbal diarrhea...
http://www.dezod.com/misc_images/tc2headflange.JPG
http://www.dezod.com/misc_images/tc2portmatch.JPG
http://www.dezod.com/misc_images/tC2collectorinside.jpg
http://www.dezod.com/misc_images/tc2frontside.JPG
http://www.dezod.com/misc_images/tc2header.JPG
Enjoy! For sale soon. Stay tuned
scottobahn 02-01-2012, 06:21 PM wicked sick!
disaster06 02-01-2012, 07:33 PM Whats the benefit to this over stock? also is it legal in CA?
thanks
paul_dezod 02-01-2012, 07:49 PM Whats the benefit to this over stock?
Efficiency. Making the engine work less to expel the exhaust byproduct of the combustion cycle. You will see and feel power gains and increased fuel economy over the stock with our unit.
also is it legal in CA?
thanks
Loaded question for heavy debate there. Your state mandates that no aftermarket cat is legal. Therefore, in their eyes it will not. However, the other 49 states it will pass no problem. Plus, this header would probably pass a sniffer test without a snag....It's kind of going to come down to the inspection station you go to in my eyes. If someone doesn't notice that it's aftermarket, it should pass then in my eyes.
devanb3 02-01-2012, 08:04 PM sick whats thatt gonna run us???
and really how are they going to know its aftermarket it will be hidden and unless they ask dont tell
paul_dezod 02-01-2012, 08:31 PM sick whats thatt gonna run us???
and really how are they going to know its aftermarket it will be hidden and unless they ask dont tell
Still working on pricing....
Good point!
biglilsteve 02-01-2012, 09:44 PM Oh gawd nice!
I assume this will have better fitment since you guys took longer to develop and release it than Weapon-R did.
I have a couple questions:
1. Where in the powerband are the gains? I hope there isn't a large subtraction from bottom-end to add to top-end...
2. Does the included cat flow better than stock?
paul_dezod 02-01-2012, 10:06 PM Oh gawd nice!
I assume this will have better fitment since you guys took longer to develop and release it than Weapon-R did.
I have a couple questions:
1. Where in the powerband are the gains? I hope there isn't a large subtraction from bottom-end to add to top-end...
2. Does the included cat flow better than stock?
You should see and feel gains all across the board.
Yes! It's much more free flowing that the stock Cat. The stock cat looks like it has about 1000cells and this has only 200. Less cells = more flow & performance.
biglilsteve 02-01-2012, 10:10 PM I love it when people bring in the numbers! Thanks for the reply!
unsungfate 02-01-2012, 10:33 PM love the idea! better performance with an eco-friendly mindset.. sign me up!
Punksk8ter62 02-01-2012, 10:50 PM i want one! in for pricing.
disaster06 02-01-2012, 10:52 PM because this has a cat, does that mean no rasp? I know others complain that any header adds rasp, but they don't have cats right?
atomic 02-01-2012, 10:59 PM sign me up
biglilsteve 02-02-2012, 02:20 AM because this has a cat, does that mean no rasp? I know others complain that any header adds rasp, but they don't have cats right?
Yeah, curious about that. This plus TRD might be a nice combination.
dm1336 02-02-2012, 02:47 AM Did I just read fuel economy plus performance gains? Sign me up!
Hopefully a few dealers up here will carry this. Looking forward to seeing this for sale.
ProjectTC2 02-02-2012, 05:13 AM I'm down! Dependant on price and how long until release! Because i'm extremely impatient :P
Firemut30 02-02-2012, 05:17 AM I'll take TWO!! Ok, only one, got alittle carried away!! Available soon?
Backinblacktc2 02-02-2012, 10:51 AM Any plans for special group buy pricing?
yardleyTC 02-02-2012, 01:39 PM does this throw any codes? if not....i want one!
Nec_Tc 02-02-2012, 01:47 PM lots of good questions, really excited about this.
paul_dezod 02-02-2012, 02:18 PM because this has a cat, does that mean no rasp? I know others complain that any header adds rasp, but they don't have cats right?
Correct. On the tC1 we had virtually no rasp with our design on it. The cat eats up a lot of sound and acts like a pre-muffler.
I'm down! Dependant on price and how long until release! Because i'm extremely impatient :P
Should be 3 weeks out. Pricing will be around the 1G tC header, $529 retail.
Any plans for special group buy pricing?
Yes we will do an intro pricing for it at a discount.
does this throw any codes? if not....i want one!
biglilsteve 02-02-2012, 04:05 PM W00t for group buy :)
devanb3 02-02-2012, 04:11 PM ^woot woot agreed group buy at under 500 would probably sell this for me but being on school abd having my computer crash I have more important things to blow $500+ on can't do everything from my phone
biglilsteve 02-02-2012, 04:15 PM I think we are all looking for WELL under 500 man. I hope it looks good!
devanb3 02-02-2012, 04:17 PM Well the price he posted at the top of the page said 529 retail
cee_dub2003 02-02-2012, 06:46 PM If there is no CARB # then it WILL NOT pass in CA no matter what !
mynew11tc 02-02-2012, 08:53 PM I want one. Good price on the GB and ill take it
Errikos 02-02-2012, 11:01 PM do want now :shock:
Firemut30 02-03-2012, 02:40 AM I've seen prices go well below retail. A shotgun I am looking at retails at 880, they are priced as low as 595. I couldn't spend 500 on it, would rather get a Glock 21.
EOIO3 02-03-2012, 03:38 AM ...would rather get a Glock 21.
wrong forum for that...
cySciontC2 02-03-2012, 04:59 AM I really wonder what this will sound like with the rest of the exhaust being stock.
Also I wonder what it will sound like with a Descendant Racing Cat-Back.
Will this work with factory O2 sensors or will it throw codes??? What could possibly needed to make it not throw codes?
Errikos 02-03-2012, 05:13 PM noob question would this be compatable with the tsudo s2 catback exhaust?
biglilsteve 02-03-2012, 05:16 PM This wouldn't even touch the tsudo. There is an s pipe between the headers and the cat back so you are fine?
ProjectTC2 02-03-2012, 05:19 PM Yea they're unrelated lol
biglilsteve 02-03-2012, 05:21 PM It wasn't a terrible question though so don't worry. At one point I thought they connected to each other too so no worries :)
Errikos 02-03-2012, 05:24 PM This wouldn't even touch the tsudo. There is an s pipe between the headers and the cat back so you are fine?
lol im about to order the tsudo but dont wanna if i cant change out the header, how you like the tsudo with the CAI?:ponder:
biglilsteve 02-03-2012, 05:40 PM LOUD. Both inside and out.
PEwilly9 02-03-2012, 09:41 PM Add another +1 to the "group buy"..... :)
Blackedout011TC 02-04-2012, 08:20 AM It would be nice to see this exceed or at least maintain all bottom end tq. of the stock exhaust. I know dyno pulls are expensive, but I would love to see this vs. stock. Very nice craftsmanship btw. That puppy is going to flow nicely. How about a pic of the stock header guts to compare?
Sparky7 02-05-2012, 04:46 AM Adding this header to the stock exhaust would only increase bottom end torque and any further improvement of the stock exhaust would increase hp and torque. Looks to be same design as Dezod's tc1 catted header and that had gains across the board especially down low. Bolts up to stock s-pipe too. Home run Dezod. Best collector I've seen so far. Should sound as good as the tc1 header.
biglilsteve 02-05-2012, 04:52 AM ^
That's all music to my ears!
Sparky7 02-05-2012, 05:20 AM Mine too. They killed it on tc1 header. This should be a no brainer. Made more power than Weapon Rasp (tc1), all stainless, no rasp, and will pass emissions. Maybe not for you Cali fellers but the rest of the states will be fine. Worth every penny.
mynew11tc 02-05-2012, 11:56 AM If the GB is 529 I would rather wait and make sure it fits right and doesn't throw codes
PEwilly9 02-05-2012, 01:29 PM Group buy! Is really like to make this my first legitimate engine mod - maybe throw an aem and custom.header back exhaust into a red...make me a happy boi! Any one have a used red for.sale? LOL
biglilsteve 02-05-2012, 01:47 PM red?...or is that your phone autocorrecting TRD?
PEwilly9 02-05-2012, 01:50 PM red?...or is that your phone autocorrecting TRD?
Yep TRD, not red. Damn auto correct...often causing confusion!
biglilsteve 02-05-2012, 01:52 PM Hahaha, I understand man. And I highly recommend the TRD though. I just got one used myself. I think I got lucky though. There really aren't any for sale now that I can think of.
PEwilly9 02-05-2012, 01:54 PM Hahaha, I understand man. And I highly recommend the TRD though. I just got one used myself. I think I got lucky though. There really aren't any for sale now that I can think of.
Yea I want it for the slight sound (might be amazing with header and custom mid pipe) and I want it for the looks as well.
biglilsteve 02-05-2012, 02:00 PM I have a question though! I hear that a 4-1 header provides high-end power, while a 4-2-1 provides low and mid-range power. Is this true?
brushlessdavid 02-05-2012, 02:12 PM dang if i wasnt gonna buy an frs i would get it
Sparky7 02-05-2012, 02:14 PM Check out the dyno graph in the tc1 Dezod catted header thread. You'll see they made much broader more usable power compared to the Weapon rASP. The catted header started making the same power I think 400rpm's earlier than the weapon r. The flow from the dezod header comes from it being equal length and having an AWESOME merge collector and port work. The Dezod header made +24 whp on a TRD supercharged tc1 just bolting it on!!! Its all in the tc1 thread. Design is identical to the new tc2 catted header.
Errikos 02-05-2012, 02:23 PM any info on a group buy yet :wink:
PEwilly9 02-05-2012, 02:37 PM any info on a group buy yet :wink:
My thoughts exactly....its tax return time. Wouldn't mind making this purchase at alllll!
Aztcrs801 02-05-2012, 07:18 PM Im interested in a group buy deal! a good catted header with gains and that will not throw cel codes at all at a good deal? im in if the gb is less than 469 since its the price i see for the tc1 catted header
Blackedout011TC 02-06-2012, 02:08 AM Might be time for me to open a "Bill Me Later" acct on my paypal... This header has me drooling.
paul_dezod 02-06-2012, 01:24 PM Ladies and gents, this should sound better than any other header on the market that's out for the tC2 currently.
As someone mentioned on here, we are expecting generous gains all across the RPM band and some increased fuel economy. Your engine will work less to expunge the exhaust.
For those in Cali, this will probably pass your sniffer test no prob, however if they notice it's aftermarket, then you will probably fail. So really it will come down to how attentive your tech is doing the inspection.
ProjectTC2 02-06-2012, 01:52 PM Will the finished product look like what is pictured in the OP? Or will it be nice and colored polished like the Weapon R header?
ProjectTC2 02-06-2012, 01:53 PM Or perhaps will you offer a stockish version for those concerned with testing in Cal and also offer a polished version for those of us who participate in car shows
dpanda88 02-06-2012, 02:26 PM Will you ship to Canada?
paul_dezod 02-06-2012, 02:27 PM Will the finished product look like what is pictured in the OP? Or will it be nice and colored polished like the Weapon R header?
It will be raw finished filled with rainbow colors from welding like this...
http://www.dezod.com/prod_images_blowup/DZMHDR4.JPG
Once it heat cycles from driving, it will look like this:
http://www.dezod.com/prod_images_blowup/DZMHDR2.jpg
paul_dezod 02-06-2012, 02:28 PM Will you ship to Canada?
yes sir! We do almost every day.
dpanda88 02-06-2012, 02:29 PM I just found out your not far away from buffalo lol. I can drive down and pick it up!
Update: Is this ready!? I can come down to test bed #2! See how well it works with my HKS exhaust
Update 2: I will be down in Buffalo Niagara airport to drop friends. Will be there on Feb 18
paul_dezod 02-06-2012, 02:40 PM I just found out your not far away from buffalo lol. I can drive down and pick it up!
Update: Is this ready!? I can come down to test bed #2! See how well it works with my HKS exhaust
Update 2: I will be down in Buffalo Niagara airport to drop friends. Will be there on Feb 18
It's not ready now. We just mocked it up and have not finish welded anything.
I am unsure we can have units ready for sale for you to pick up before the 18th.
Edit: However when we are ready, you are more than welcome to scoop one up.
dpanda88 02-06-2012, 02:41 PM nooooo can you push one thru for me lol.. it's a 2 and half hour drive. I rather save the shipping cost....
Also you guys can make a video to see how it will sound with HKS axleback exhaust :)
paul_dezod 02-06-2012, 02:48 PM nooooo can you push one thru for me lol.. it's a 2 and half hour drive. I rather save the shipping cost....
Also you guys can make a video to see how it will sound with HKS axleback exhaust :)
Since when does it take 2.5hrs from T.O.? I have driven from here to Toronto numerous times, longest time ever was 1.5 hours. Shortest, well that was 47 mins. Average speed was well over 110mph
dpanda88 02-06-2012, 03:10 PM ok... 1.5 hours lol.. that's still a long time! lol
john2011TC 02-07-2012, 04:48 AM definitely in for the gb
paul_dezod 02-07-2012, 04:40 PM ok... 1.5 hours lol.. that's still a long time! lol
I'll see what I can do.
definitely in for the gb
Glad to hear.
beandip007 02-07-2012, 05:30 PM Definitely get on this guys, I have been super happy with how mine has performed and sounded on my TC1. Here are some of my videos...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpWX5L18bsw&context=C31fa0bbADOEgsToPDskJ1hLBQT_R33qT0Mu6FZOpo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUSjk2A7YLs&context=C3b724fdADOEgsToPDskJ4GHWzFpoVQsJJuFE7J_yp
This was my first one with a weapon R header, listen to the high pitched rasp at 7, 11, 32 seconds on the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSAgmpmjOQ4&context=C307a165ADOEgsToPDskLXvYWaIEr-SwH70XoBT51I
ProjectTC2 02-07-2012, 05:42 PM Hmmm.. Now i'm split between which header I will be getting. This one appears to preform better and doesn't add any rasp, but it isn't polished or anything. The Weapon R is Polished and super sexy looking, but it adds some rasp. I wish we could combine the 2 and make one super sexy polished Dezod Header!
Side Note: You can't really compare the videos above with the new header that will be produced. That's a TC1, completley different engine, completley different header products.
paul_dezod 02-07-2012, 05:52 PM Hmmm.. Now i'm split between which header I will be getting. This one appears to preform better and doesn't add any rasp, but it isn't polished or anything. The Weapon R is Polished and super sexy looking, but it adds some rasp. I wish we could combine the 2 and make one super sexy polished Dezod Header!
Side Note: You can't really compare the videos above with the new header that will be produced. That's a TC1, completley different engine, completley different header products.
You can always ceramic coat ours for an additional cost.
It should still be fairly close as the the 2AR is still much like the 2AZ in a lot of ways...
biglilsteve 02-07-2012, 06:06 PM That car is loud as hell. Way too loud. I hope that's just a result of the other exhaust components you have installed.
Paul, compared to a completely stock exhaust can we expect a huge sound difference? I have the TRD axleback and I don't want the car to be MUCH louder than that...
beandip007 02-07-2012, 06:15 PM Side Note: You can't really compare the videos above with the new header that will be produced. That's a TC1, completley different engine, completley different header products.
I understand that, just a small reference to show a difference on my car.
beandip007 02-07-2012, 06:16 PM That car is loud as hell. Way too loud. I hope that's just a result of the other exhaust components you have installed.
Paul, compared to a completely stock exhaust can we expect a huge sound difference? I have the TRD axleback and I don't want the car to be MUCH louder than that...
It is only loud when I get on it, yes much louder than stock, but you are going to get a little more noise with a header.
biglilsteve 02-07-2012, 06:18 PM I hope it is just a little more noise lol.
And your videos did a great job showing how much cleaner this header sounds than the tinny, raspy Weapon-R. Thanks man.
beandip007 02-07-2012, 06:19 PM I hope it is just a little more noise lol.
And your videos did a great job showing how much cleaner this header sounds than the tinny, raspy Weapon-R. Thanks man.
Thanks, you are the first one to realize that, I have been working to show that there is a night and day difference between them. I still have a little, when its cold but nothing like the weapon R. This thing is legit.
ProjectTC2 02-07-2012, 06:24 PM I know nothing about Ceramic coating, can someone give me a quick spark notes about Ceramic Coating? Costs, Where to get it done, What it does, How long it lasts, Etc.
paul_dezod 02-07-2012, 06:27 PM I hope it is just a little more noise lol.
And your videos did a great job showing how much cleaner this header sounds than the tinny, raspy Weapon-R. Thanks man.
You will notice some change, but how much is kind of contingent upon your individual perspective. To me, it didn't change much in comparison to some other stuff I saw on other apps and such, while to you it may be a lot.
paul_dezod 02-07-2012, 06:28 PM I know nothing about Ceramic coating, can someone give me a quick spark notes about Ceramic Coating? Costs, Where to get it done, What it does, How long it lasts, Etc.
Jet Hot Coating....
http://www.jet-hot.com/
Swaintech
http://www.swaintech.com/
cySciontC2 02-07-2012, 08:50 PM It will be raw finished filled with rainbow colors from welding like this...
http://www.dezod.com/prod_images_blowup/DZMHDR4.JPG
Once it heat cycles from driving, it will look like this:
http://www.dezod.com/prod_images_blowup/DZMHDR2.jpg
Sorry to be a pest. But where is the O2 sensor located?
Also, has it thrown codes? Will it require a code eliminator?
I'm down so I wouldn't have to feel like I'm "ghetto rigging" my car to not throw codes.
Also, do you think it would be feasible to put brackets for the stock heat shield so it would look stock, for the Cali folk, like me!!!
beandip007 02-07-2012, 08:54 PM It uses factory O2 sensor, no need to change anything, I have been driving on it for 2 months now with not one CEL.
cySciontC2 02-07-2012, 09:15 PM I wonder if there is a way to compare the current Weapon R header against the Dezod. The tC1 had a fatter power band compared to the Weapon R. Is it true with this generation?
A tC2 video would be nice...
keeev 02-07-2012, 11:55 PM Sorry to be a pest. But where is the O2 sensor located?
Also, has it thrown codes? Will it require a code eliminator?
I'm down so I wouldn't have to feel like I'm "ghetto rigging" my car to not throw codes.
Also, do you think it would be feasible to put brackets for the stock heat shield so it would look stock, for the Cali folk, like me!!!
^+1
paul_dezod 02-08-2012, 02:17 PM Sorry to be a pest. But where is the O2 sensor located?
Also, has it thrown codes? Will it require a code eliminator?
I'm down so I wouldn't have to feel like I'm "ghetto rigging" my car to not throw codes.
Also, do you think it would be feasible to put brackets for the stock heat shield so it would look stock, for the Cali folk, like me!!!
It's positioned very close to stock location on the right side of the collector. There will be no need for rigging anything. This will be straight bolt on.
It uses factory O2 sensor, no need to change anything, I have been driving on it for 2 months now with not one CEL.
Beandip007 and our 2 other testers have been driving for a combined over 2K miles without a code. So it would be safe to say that all is safe from codes.
Blackedout011TC 02-10-2012, 09:48 PM Optional welded on tabs with nuts to put the stock heat shield back on would be nice. I'd still prefer to ceramic coat them or wrap them to help keep engine bay heat down.
@ cySciontC2; The 02 sensor is mounted after the cat. I'm sure it is down there somewhere.
paul_dezod 02-13-2012, 01:31 PM Optional welded on tabs with nuts to put the stock heat shield back on would be nice. I'd still prefer to ceramic coat them or wrap them to help keep engine bay heat down.
@ cySciontC2; The 02 sensor is mounted after the cat. I'm sure it is down there somewhere.
Since this header is only a factory replacement and doesn't touch the s-pipe, we have one bung on the header in the collector prior to the cat just like factory.
goose_119 02-15-2012, 03:56 AM Been mentioned several times but it hasn't been addressed. Would it be possible for Yall to fab brackets to mount the factory heat shield?
And is there an eta on group buy/group buy pricing? I'm definitely interested. Been waiting to see one with a cat before I made my purchase
paul_dezod 02-15-2012, 01:08 PM Been mentioned several times but it hasn't been addressed. Would it be possible for Yall to fab brackets to mount the factory heat shield?
And is there an eta on group buy/group buy pricing? I'm definitely interested. Been waiting to see one with a cat before I made my purchase
GB should begin before month end.
As far as the factory heat shield mounts, at this moment we have no plans to do so.
cySciontC2 02-16-2012, 05:46 AM would it be possible for you guys to make a 4-1 header without the cat?
I really like the 4-1 header design but I don't want to have a cat because I am in cali and it would be illegal anyway.
paul_dezod 02-16-2012, 01:05 PM would it be possible for you guys to make a 4-1 header without the cat?
I really like the 4-1 header design but I don't want to have a cat because I am in cali and it would be illegal anyway.
Sure we can do that for ya.
ProjectTC2 02-16-2012, 01:21 PM Without the cat, wouldn't that add rice and make it similar to the Weapon R Header... which is the whole reason everyone's interested in this one? I love this header, and I love the added performance and sound boost without being ricy at all, but as soon as you take out the cat then that's where you get rice, no?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I've gathered from reading these few threads
Also, I'm aware that this is a 4-1 header and the Weapon R is a 4-2-1 header, is there a lot of difference?
paul_dezod 02-16-2012, 01:41 PM Without the cat, wouldn't that add rice and make it similar to the Weapon R Header... which is the whole reason everyone's interested in this one? I love this header, and I love the added performance and sound boost without being ricy at all, but as soon as you take out the cat then that's where you get rice, no?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I've gathered from reading these few threads
Also, I'm aware that this is a 4-1 header and the Weapon R is a 4-2-1 header, is there a lot of difference?
Eliminating the cat will put the sound close to other headers like DC, WR etc.
However, our header is still worlds apart on every level compared to every other header out there. Why? I will go into some brief details...
1) Our headers are hand crafted in house right here in the USA
2) craftmanship can't be compared. Ours is superior and I would challenge any brands against ours.
3) CNC precision cut head flange with oval to circle port transition AND special cuts to ensure good sealing on the head with the factory gasket.
You get a lot of attention to detail and quality when it comes to our header. These are not mass produced in China like Weapon R and other brands.
ProjectTC2 02-16-2012, 01:52 PM I'm definetley interested in the group buy, pending the price. Before the group buy starts, is it possible to get a video of this header on a TC2? I know you guys said that you have a few test cars that have been driving around for a while
paul_dezod 02-16-2012, 01:59 PM I'm definetley interested in the group buy, pending the price. Before the group buy starts, is it possible to get a video of this header on a TC2? I know you guys said that you have a few test cars that have been driving around for a while
We have a mountain of data very soon to share. Stay tuned to here and our FB page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dezod-Motorsports-Inc/101339374669
cySciontC2 02-16-2012, 06:33 PM Been mentioned several times but it hasn't been addressed. Would it be possible for Yall to fab brackets to mount the factory heat shield?
I'm interested in this too, if the stock heat shields are on the car, then the smog techs won't know the difference.
Can there be brackets welded to the header to put the stock heat shields on? This would really help us cali people IMO.
johndeo11 02-16-2012, 06:40 PM ^go cySciontC2... LOLZ...
i concur everything you said. :)
paul_dezod 02-16-2012, 06:48 PM I am not sure this will be an option at all as our manifold does not follow the contour of the factory manifold, therefore the heatshield may not like up right at all.
johndeo11 02-16-2012, 06:51 PM no heat shield is fine. as long as the header is legal here in cali. :)
paul_dezod 02-16-2012, 07:20 PM no heat shield is fine. as long as the header is legal here in cali. :)
Cali mandates that no aftermarket cat is legal.
john2011TC 02-17-2012, 07:01 AM basically, simply put, us cali folks cant have the luxury of having one of these nice cats? cali people should get a discount if were willing to put this into our cars knowing the consequences....just saying heheh
ProjectTC2 02-17-2012, 12:26 PM So does law in Cali say that you can't have an aftermarket header or just can't have an aftermarket cat? If it's just the cat, then couldn't you guys use OEM cats in a few of them and have that as an option for those people in Cali concerned about testing?
paul_dezod 02-17-2012, 01:39 PM basically, simply put, us cali folks cant have the luxury of having one of these nice cats? cali people should get a discount if were willing to put this into our cars knowing the consequences....just saying heheh
So does law in Cali say that you can't have an aftermarket header or just can't have an aftermarket cat? If it's just the cat, then couldn't you guys use OEM cats in a few of them and have that as an option for those people in Cali concerned about testing?
Guys, please don't take this the wrong way, but it's your car and your option to mod the vehicle. Your state is the ONLY out of 50 states that causes an issue.
California state law says that unless there is a known issue with the existing cat on the car, then it's illegal to remove or modify it. If something is wrong, you must receive a written document from the repair facility stating what's wrong and if a replacement is needed, it must be an OEM part. :eek:
ProjectTC2 02-17-2012, 01:47 PM Looks like you Cali guys' only option is to either fab up some brackets for the factory heat shield and hope they don't notice, or it's time to make a friend at the testing place! :)
MyEvilMonkeys 02-17-2012, 02:06 PM Looks like you Cali guys' only option is to either fab up some brackets for the factory heat shield and hope they don't notice, or it's time to make a friend at the testing place! :)
...or move!
cySciontC2 02-17-2012, 06:13 PM I say that all of us "tuners" should just F**K CARB and do whatever the hell we want to our own cars.
So many limitations, no wonder so many companies are leaving Cali. I personally don't blame them.
zaksturbo 02-20-2012, 10:44 AM Any idea when this will be available I'm in the market??
PEwilly9 02-20-2012, 03:51 PM ^soon...
paul_dezod 02-21-2012, 01:42 PM Any idea when this will be available I'm in the market??
^soon...
Looks like 3/1/12
jayjayk89 02-21-2012, 02:24 PM Looks like 3/1/12
That's so soon!
AHH! haha.
If there's a 500$ or less group buy and a video i'm in. :clap:
It sounds, in words and numbers, like a pretty well-off header to me.
Scooter08 02-21-2012, 03:27 PM That's so soon!
AHH! haha.
If there's a 500$ or less group buy and a video i'm in. :clap:
It sounds, in words and numbers, like a pretty well-off header to me.
Videos fo sho!
paul_dezod 02-21-2012, 03:55 PM That's so soon!
AHH! haha.
If there's a 500$ or less group buy and a video i'm in. :clap:
It sounds, in words and numbers, like a pretty well-off header to me.
Group buy price will be less than $500 and go for one month.....Sit tight for final details and such. Dyno test results and videos coming soon.
manualtCchick 02-21-2012, 04:27 PM click for price.
biglilsteve 02-21-2012, 04:31 PM click for price.
huh?
jayjayk89 02-21-2012, 04:34 PM Group buy price will be less than $500 and go for one month.....Sit tight for final details and such. Dyno test results and videos coming soon.
Thank you.
Here's to hoping you get it out before summers end... http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/theflooper/icons/thdrinking_smiley.gif
because I can't stand to do this sort of thing right before the snow falls. And I am sure I speak for a many here.
MightyP 02-21-2012, 05:08 PM I like...
cySciontC2 02-21-2012, 06:36 PM Group buy price will be less than $500 and go for one month.....Sit tight for final details and such. Dyno test results and videos coming soon.
Can you guys do a comparison to Weapon R?
But other than that I can't wait for the dyno results and videos. No doubt will sound suhweet!!!
scionchicop 02-21-2012, 09:49 PM Thank you.
Here's to hoping you get it out before summers end... http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/theflooper/icons/thdrinking_smiley.gif
because I can't stand to do this sort of thing right before the snow falls. And I am sure I speak for a many here.
It'll be out, i'm sure before spring officially begins!!!!
paul_dezod 02-22-2012, 01:39 PM It'll be out, i'm sure before spring officially begins!!!!
It will be out in the next 2 weeks. :cool:
noskatehate22 02-22-2012, 10:21 PM YES YES YES YES!!
Scooter08 02-24-2012, 08:23 PM Well lookie what we have here...!!!
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/shnibes/d5592fe0.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/shnibes/e19fb243.jpg
My tC2 just got a new toy from the mod fairy. Just from holding it for a few minutes, I can say this thing is a beast! It was glorious to see for the first time. I'll try to take some more pics later tonight or tomorrow, as I only had so much time to get the package and get back to work on my lunch break.
If all goes according to plan, I'll have some numbers to go along with it tomorrow afternoon/evening. It will be numbers from having an Injen CAI and stock exhaust.
PEwilly9 02-24-2012, 08:30 PM ^who does this guy think he is! Congrats scooter mayne! cant wait to see that BIA!
MightyP 02-24-2012, 08:34 PM Soo sexy.
biglilsteve 02-24-2012, 08:35 PM Those are the exact numbers I am looking for as I have a similar setup! Sweet and good for you!
john2011TC 02-24-2012, 09:13 PM was there a gb that i missed? o.o i want one :[
forum brothers i need you honest opinion. do you think its worth it to get this if
you live in cali?
Scooter08 02-24-2012, 10:14 PM was there a gb that i missed? o.o i want one :[
forum brothers i need you honest opinion. do you think its worth it to get this if
you live in cali?
No group buy yet homie..I have one to test and get some performance numbers/videos for everyone!
I THINK group buy starts 3/1/12, but Paul would be able to tell you for sure! I'll have some more info on the header hopefully tomorrow!
beandip007 02-25-2012, 05:41 PM Yep, hope your testing goes good, I am sure this will be a very awesome part for the TC2.
biglilsteve 02-25-2012, 05:49 PM Absolutely. I am nervous though. If the results are too good I'm going to be forced to blow 500 on this
beandip007 02-25-2012, 05:51 PM I am the product tester for the TC on and I have been nothing but happy with this. I know different cars, but Dezods products do what they say they will, with good quality as well.
Aztcrs801 02-26-2012, 12:29 AM Looks great! I want one too just hop the gb is less than 460 since thats the price on the tc1 header and also want to know the pricing if ceramic coated. great job
EOIO3 02-26-2012, 01:29 AM Still working on pricing....
Good point!
Paul,
For the initial group buy, do you have the capabilities to ceramic coat? Even at an extra charge…I’d probably go for it.
ProjectTC2 02-26-2012, 01:50 AM Paul,
For the initial group buy, do you have the capabilities to ceramic coat? Even at an extra charge…I’d probably go for it.
I second the motion
scionchicop 02-26-2012, 02:59 AM If you guys think this is sexy, you should see their turbo manifold design. Go to the Facebook page and like it!!!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dezod-Motorsports-Inc/101339374669
paul_dezod 02-27-2012, 01:24 PM Well lookie what we have here...!!!
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/shnibes/d5592fe0.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/shnibes/e19fb243.jpg
My tC2 just got a new toy from the mod fairy. Just from holding it for a few minutes, I can say this thing is a beast! It was glorious to see for the first time. I'll try to take some more pics later tonight or tomorrow, as I only had so much time to get the package and get back to work on my lunch break.
If all goes according to plan, I'll have some numbers to go along with it tomorrow afternoon/evening. It will be numbers from having an Injen CAI and stock exhaust.
That looks waaaaay to familiar. :ponder:
:bow:
EOIO3 02-27-2012, 02:33 PM Paul,
For the initial group buy, do you have the capabilities to ceramic coat? Even at an extra charge…I’d probably go for it.
Still no answer...would to get ceramic coating...
paul_dezod 02-27-2012, 03:51 PM Still no answer...would to get ceramic coating...
Sorry missed that!
Yes it's an option. Jet Hot would be the company doing it, and I think it will run you $250 or so.
EOIO3 02-27-2012, 04:08 PM Sorry missed that!
Yes it's an option. Jet Hot would be the company doing it, and I think it will run you $250 or so.
Do you know if there would be a discount if 3 - 5 of us went for it? $250 is a bit steep.
paul_dezod 02-27-2012, 05:21 PM Do you know if there would be a discount if 3 - 5 of us went for it? $250 is a bit steep.
That's us passing on the amount to you with no mark up as Jet Hot eliminated all dealer accounts recently. You may contact them directly to see if things could be done cheaper....
http://www.jet-hot.com/
Scooter08 02-27-2012, 06:40 PM That looks waaaaay to familiar. :ponder:
:bow:
no no...:bow: to you guys!
This thing is pretty fancy
paul_dezod 02-27-2012, 07:33 PM Dyno results are in!
Add 8.82 wheel hp and gains of 6.72 ft/lbs of tq to your 2ARFE engine with our Dezod Motorsports N/A "Green" header. With a broader torque band, she faster throughout the complete rev cycle. Better fuel economy, better throttle response and more power.
http://www.dezod.com/misc_images/DynotC2header.jpg
Scooter08 02-27-2012, 07:40 PM HA! Beat me to it! I'm totally happy with those results! To see those gains is pretty awesome!
The thing is built like a tank and the fellas at the shop were very impressed with the build quality and the idea behind this header.
I've driven about a hundred miles so far on it, with no CEL, and the car still sounds sharp. I'll be posting some videos/sound clips tonight or tomorrow.
biglilsteve 02-27-2012, 08:15 PM Sweet. How does it FEEL though?
Scooter08 02-27-2012, 08:23 PM Sweet. How does it FEEL though?
Feels great. Just as smooth of a ride as the stock header provided, with a bit more of a kick and an accentuated tone to the stock exhaust.
biglilsteve 02-27-2012, 08:41 PM Nice! I look forward to hearing your videos. I hope they are good sound quality!!
biglilsteve 02-27-2012, 09:54 PM Dyno results are in!
Add 8.82 wheel hp and gains of 6.72 ft/lbs of tq to your 2ARFE engine with our Dezod Motorsports N/A "Green" header. With a broader torque band, she faster throughout the complete rev cycle. Better fuel economy, better throttle response and more power.
http://www.dezod.com/misc_images/DynotC2header.jpg
Hey, do we have a dyno graph available with the HP/TQ against RPM? The speed in MPH throws me off...
EOIO3 02-28-2012, 01:05 AM That's us passing on the amount to you with no mark up as Jet Hot eliminated all dealer accounts recently. You may contact them directly to see if things could be done cheaper....
http://www.jet-hot.com/
If I contacted them myself...that would be the answer that I would get...
if 3 - 5 of us got it on the group buy and all came from you at the same time...I'm sure that number would come down some. That's all that I'm asking...would you make that offer on the GB? Thanks.
Scooter08 02-28-2012, 04:49 AM Here's a quick video clip I made tonight before I pulled into the garage..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCJK4S3fPT8
paul_dezod 02-28-2012, 01:02 PM If I contacted them myself...that would be the answer that I would get...
if 3 - 5 of us got it on the group buy and all came from you at the same time...I'm sure that number would come down some. That's all that I'm asking...would you make that offer on the GB? Thanks.
Since they no longer support dealer accounts, it's the same as you proposing it to them. Not trying to dance out of it, but that is the way they chose to do business.
biglilsteve 02-28-2012, 01:04 PM Paul do we have the dyno graph against RPM instead of MPH?
paul_dezod 02-28-2012, 01:11 PM Paul do we have the dyno graph against RPM instead of MPH?
http://www.dezod.com/misc_images/DynotC2header2.jpg
biglilsteve 02-28-2012, 01:42 PM Perfect, thanks!
biglilsteve 02-28-2012, 01:44 PM And thanks for the video scooter! Does the header add a lot of noise inside the cabin? Or is it held outside the car for the most part?
Scooter08 02-28-2012, 01:55 PM Nope. Sound is pretty much right on with the stock noise. I do have a clip of me driving withy the windows cracked and I'll try to get it up ASAP
disaster06 02-28-2012, 03:52 PM Scooter, were you back to just stock or do you have an exhaust on that? too dark to tell
biglilsteve 02-28-2012, 03:57 PM He said it's all stock after the header and I believe he has a CAI.
Scooter08 02-28-2012, 04:30 PM Scooter, were you back to just stock or do you have an exhaust on that? too dark to tell
Steve is correct.. I have a stock exhaust, the Dezod "green" header, and an Injen intake
biglilsteve 02-28-2012, 04:36 PM Oh btw scooter it sounds like your camera gets pretty decent audio. In addition to your inside clip could you get a clip from the outside with you driving by? :)
Scooter08 02-28-2012, 04:39 PM Oh btw scooter it sounds like your camera gets pretty decent audio. In addition to your inside clip could you get a clip from the outside with you driving by? :)
Yeah, I have one, but it was breezy out and didnt turn out well..hoping to get another today
biglilsteve 02-28-2012, 04:42 PM Kool!
beandip007 02-28-2012, 05:27 PM Joe you and I need to do some rolling footage of each other
.
Scooter08 02-28-2012, 05:33 PM Joe you and I need to do some rolling footage of each other
.
Yes we do! Means we have to be in the same town at some point tho!
Firemut30 02-29-2012, 02:56 AM Any word on a groupbuy?
Errikos 02-29-2012, 03:19 AM Can't seem to find any numbers on the weapon r, I wanna see both dyno results before making purchase
ProjectTC2 02-29-2012, 03:58 AM It's not the numbers that people are complaing about with the Weapon R, it's the fact that it has no cat..therefore causing rasp in the high RPM's. The Weapon R header looks sexy as ____ and produces a good amount of horses and tq, but when you get up there on the RPM's it sounds like a honda just flew by.
Not to mention 60% of the people on this forum live in Cali, where it is illegial to have a header without a cat... but then again it's illegial in Cali to have an aftermarket header at all
keeev 02-29-2012, 05:45 AM How much would the header cost around with group buy?
biglilsteve 02-29-2012, 10:07 AM It's not the numbers that people are complaing about with the Weapon R, it's the fact that it has no cat..therefore causing rasp in the high RPM's. The Weapon R header looks sexy as ____ and produces a good amount of horses and tq, but when you get up there on the RPM's it sounds like a honda just flew by.
Not to mention 60% of the people on this forum live in Cali, where it is illegial to have a header without a cat... but then again it's illegial in Cali to have an aftermarket header at all
Yup. In addition, it has poor fitment.
paul_dezod 02-29-2012, 01:27 PM The GB will form within the next week or so. We are finalizing some things on this design first.
Our header makes just as much, if not more power than WR, and we have a cat AND sound better.
Errikos 02-29-2012, 02:00 PM It's not the numbers that people are complaing about with the Weapon R, it's the fact that it has no cat..therefore causing rasp in the high RPM's. The Weapon R header looks sexy as ____ and produces a good amount of horses and tq, but when you get up there on the RPM's it sounds like a honda just flew by.
Not to mention 60% of the people on this forum live in Cali, where it is illegial to have a header without a cat... but then again it's illegial in Cali to have an aftermarket header at all
Yes I'm aware of that issue but I still wanna see numbers on both lol the cat isint a issue for me plenty of shops in my area will pass the inspection
Scooter08 02-29-2012, 05:42 PM Ran out on my lunch to snag a pic of it actually on my car for everyone. Was going to do a driveby video or 2 last night, but it was raining like a mofo, so hopefully tonight or tomorrow. Car runs smooth.. no CELs..just a happy me :bow:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/shnibes/39ede241.jpg
PEwilly9 02-29-2012, 06:30 PM Lookin good bro! Can't wait to see the vids and the car. Holllaaaa!
12stormtroopertc 03-01-2012, 05:05 AM Nice! I would get one if it wasn't for getting a turbo set up later.
cySciontC2 03-01-2012, 06:47 AM This header would cost around $500? Is this correct?
ProjectTC2 03-01-2012, 12:44 PM Nice! I would get one if it wasn't for getting a turbo set up later.
^^ x2
Although I won't be boosted for Atleast a year or 2, I hate to spend so much on something that I'd have to get rid of later. But then again, I already do have an intake and exhaust which will both have to be changed...hmm..
Blackedout011TC 03-01-2012, 04:31 PM x3.. This would be a no brainer for me if turbo was not our only boost option.
I can't see spending $700+ on intake and exhaust mods for such small gains. I have no plans to build the engine, that would be yet another small fortune for small gains on a n/a engine.
I am not knocking the product in anyway. VERY nice quality and impressive gains, just not in my h.p. to dollar budget.. at the moment at least.
paul_dezod 03-01-2012, 04:40 PM No worries! We have you covered in the turbo department too.
paul_dezod 03-01-2012, 04:41 PM This header would cost around $500? Is this correct?
Correct.
Aztcrs801 03-01-2012, 05:19 PM $500? seems a little tooo steep especially for a group buy to me.. looks great though!
i was def hoping for less than 460shipped max for the raw header especially that the price on the similar tc1 header at normal price non group buy is 460. i really want it though
paul_dezod 03-01-2012, 05:27 PM $500? seems a little tooo steep especially for a group buy to me.. looks great though!
i was def hoping for less than 460shipped max for the raw header especially that the price on the similar tc1 header at normal price non group buy is 460. i really want it though
This is where you are mistaken. Let me explain.
The $460 on the tC1 IS the GB price.
The tC2 should come in around there during the GB. It will be a few dollars more because we have additional things we need to include on this model.
Aztcrs801 03-01-2012, 05:45 PM I see now. I was just looking from the online current price on your site. Well I hope the group buy is an awesome deal! My max I'd be willing to do is 500shipped. Looks like an awesome product forsure. Thanks for the clarification
ProjectTC2 03-01-2012, 05:48 PM No worries! We have you covered in the turbo department too.
Can't wait to see how yalls turbo compares to Descendant's and the new PTuning turbo! I know you guy's at Dezod do great work and I'm anxious to see how it goes :)
Scooter08 03-01-2012, 08:04 PM Can't wait to see how yalls turbo compares to Descendant's and the new PTuning turbo! I know you guy's at Dezod do great work and I'm anxious to see how it goes :)
I have no doubts it'll be G status fo sho!
paul_dezod 03-01-2012, 08:10 PM I have no doubts it'll be G status fo sho!
Someone saw our work. :biggrin:
Scooter08 03-01-2012, 08:16 PM Someone saw our work. :biggrin:
I did more than just look at it!
GIGGITY!
:rolling:
biglilsteve 03-02-2012, 04:56 AM Credit card in hand. Sigh. Yall killin me.
paul_dezod 03-02-2012, 01:19 PM Credit card in hand. Sigh. Yall killin me.
You won't be disappointed. :biggrin:
Next week Friday, we open up the GB.
Scooter08 03-02-2012, 02:28 PM Credit card in hand. Sigh. Yall killin me.
Still working on that drive by video, bud. It's been crappy weather here lately..so hopefully soon!
noskatehate22 03-02-2012, 08:09 PM After I purchase your header immediately when you open up the group buy, how long should I expext until I receive my masterpiece?
paul_dezod 03-02-2012, 08:12 PM After I purchase your header immediately when you open up the group buy, how long should I expext until I receive my masterpiece?
Well right now, looking like 2 weeks. That is part of the reason why we have not opened it up yet. We are ramping in raw materials and getting 100% caught up on the tC1 stuff first. We still have about 10 left outstanding on that round........
keeev 03-02-2012, 08:15 PM Is the group buy price going to be lowered if there are a lot of people on the list?
Scooter08 03-02-2012, 08:17 PM Hey Paul,
Last night, I got compliments from an acquaintance of mine who drives a twin turbo 125i and usually isn't impressed with Scions. It's not a HUGE deal, cuz I usually don't pay attention to what he has to say LOL..but yeah, kudos to Dezod..my scion crew love the sound, and so does the usually unimpressed BMW driver. Lately, I find myself driving without the stereo on, just to listen to my car...so awesome!
TheYota 03-02-2012, 08:27 PM I agree with cali owners. That looks aftermarket, but again next to nevada its nazis about smog. Amd ifnu want it that badly suck it up
Scooter08 03-02-2012, 08:31 PM I agree with cali owners. That looks aftermarket, but again next to nevada its nazis about smog. Amd ifnu want it that badly suck it up
x2..if theywant it bad enough, they'll get it anyways :lol:
biglilsteve 03-02-2012, 09:01 PM Hey Paul,
Last night, I got compliments from an acquaintance of mine who drives a twin turbo 125i and usually isn't impressed with Scions. It's not a HUGE deal, cuz I usually don't pay attention to what he has to say LOL..but yeah, kudos to Dezod..my scion crew love the sound, and so does the usually unimpressed BMW driver. Lately, I find myself driving without the stereo on, just to listen to my car...so awesome!
I just reeeaaallly hope it isn't noisy inside the cabin. I got rid of my Tsudo exhaust for that reason. It just got obnoxious.
Scooter08 03-03-2012, 08:56 PM Nah this isn't obnoxious at all man
dpanda88 03-04-2012, 04:29 PM Hopefully it sounds good! If a GB is opened I can at least come down and grab it from T.O haha
paul_dezod 03-05-2012, 02:16 PM Is the group buy price going to be lowered if there are a lot of people on the list?
It will be one rock bottom price for all to jump on.
Hey Paul,
Last night, I got compliments from an acquaintance of mine who drives a twin turbo 125i and usually isn't impressed with Scions. It's not a HUGE deal, cuz I usually don't pay attention to what he has to say LOL..but yeah, kudos to Dezod..my scion crew love the sound, and so does the usually unimpressed BMW driver. Lately, I find myself driving without the stereo on, just to listen to my car...so awesome!
Thanks for the kind words! That's awesome Joe.
Nah this isn't obnoxious at all man
^^^He's speaking from experience.
Hopefully it sounds good! If a GB is opened I can at least come down and grab it from T.O haha
That's an option, however will call will be determined on when your order is placed and numbers outstanding before you. As always, first come, first served.
mynew11tc 03-06-2012, 05:13 PM Still working on that drive by video, bud. It's been crappy weather here lately..so hopefully soon!
been a few days any word on the video?
Scooter08 03-06-2012, 05:34 PM been a few days any word on the video?
Haven't forgot about it or anything. Working both my jobs is running me ragged. I'll get it as soon as I can. Sorry for the delay!!!
mynew11tc 03-06-2012, 05:37 PM Haven't forgot about it or anything. Working both my jobs is running me ragged. I'll get it as soon as I can. Sorry for the delay!!! no rush man. Just curious
Scooter08 03-06-2012, 05:39 PM no rush man. Just curious
Thanks for the patience. I may just go out tonight, after work..set my camera down on a sidewalk somewhere..press record..and drive by a few times lol
john2011TC 03-06-2012, 07:47 PM ^^^definitely what everyone is waiting on the edge of their seats for hahaha
mynew11tc 03-06-2012, 07:50 PM ^^^definitely what everyone is waiting on the edge of their seats for hahaha
haha yea just a tad.
paul_dezod 03-08-2012, 03:08 PM Probably going to delay the opening of the GB a few days because our machinist has not yet finished the head flanges needed to make these headers. He tells me that sometime next week they should be done. That is when we will open up the flood gates for sale!
biglilsteve 03-08-2012, 09:25 PM That's cool, man. If the headers will actually be available right after the group buy is complete it's worth it.
Firemut30 03-08-2012, 09:57 PM Is it close enough for a price?
paul_dezod 03-09-2012, 12:57 PM Is it close enough for a price?
I am SUPER close to figuring that out. I am working on something right now for it. Hopefully later today I can announce it.
manualtCchick 03-09-2012, 02:44 PM :nails::drama:
biglilsteve 03-12-2012, 02:38 PM Hey Paul, what we lookin like? :)
paul_dezod 03-12-2012, 02:56 PM Hey Paul, what we lookin like? :)
In about an hour, I will announce the pricing.
Scooter08 03-12-2012, 04:22 PM I have this week off from job #2, so should have a driveby or 2 tonight!!! Stoked for this group buy!!
Firemut30 03-12-2012, 04:24 PM WELLLLLL!!!
paul_dezod 03-12-2012, 04:33 PM http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212683
Scooter08 03-14-2012, 02:49 PM Ok, so I got some clips put together to compare the stock (RS 7.0) vs the Dezod header (in my 2011). There's also a clip or 2 of me taking off (being gentle on the speed as I was in a residential area). Added a couple fresh pics and the dyno chart as well. The video was way cooler when I added music to it at points, but YouTube wouldn't let me have the video up in the USA with what I had..lame.
Sorry for the sketchy editing. This is the first time I've ever edited video, so it was all new to me. I think I did well at notifying the view when each person's car is making noise, so that should help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1K1UyxfsRc
**special thanks to Chris aka "dragonsan" for his help and for loaning his RS for the comparison.
beandip007 03-14-2012, 03:06 PM Nice video Joe, I like how you got stock vs. dezod. Dezod sounds great. NO RASP!!!!
Scooter08 03-14-2012, 03:09 PM Nice video Joe, I like how you got stock vs. dezod. Dezod sounds great. NO RASP!!!!
Rasp? What's that????:rolling:
biglilsteve 03-14-2012, 08:52 PM Finally! :) So what's up with your phone making the stock revs sound so aggressive?? haha
Scooter08 03-14-2012, 09:06 PM LOL on the stock header? Idk..it's weird. tC has a decent sounding exhaust from the factory I guess
biglilsteve 03-15-2012, 10:47 PM Hey man, any details you can shed regarding installation? Simple as take the old off and put the new on?...or does it require any other tinkering? And fitment?...how's that?
Firemut30 03-17-2012, 10:14 PM Is the horse power gain in conjuntion with having a cai and exhaust? If so, what gains might someone expect if they don't have a cai?
biglilsteve 03-17-2012, 10:21 PM The before and after dynos both had CAI and stock exhaust. This means that you should expect similar gains with all other things kept constant.
Firemut30 03-17-2012, 10:41 PM What? Supposedly my airflow in isn't as good stock as with a cai, but my exhaust is supposedly better then exhaust. I really don't think "either(air)/or(exhaust)" produces the same out come. If its a small variable I could understand but I really din't think having one or the other produces the same numbers, but thats why I am asking. Thanks
biglilsteve 03-17-2012, 10:56 PM Whoa you lost me there man lol. I'm just trying to say that since all the parts on the car are identical in both dynos except for the header, then only the header should account for the gains. Obviously there are going to be exceptions, but I don't see a simple CAI being one.
Scooter08 03-19-2012, 07:04 PM Hey man, any details you can shed regarding installation? Simple as take the old off and put the new on?...or does it require any other tinkering? And fitment?...how's that?
Pretty much taking the old one off and installing the new one. Like it says on the Dezod site, you'll need to bore out the donut gasket that comes with it so itll fit the new header. I used my dremel and had no issues. I guess the stock header's pipe is a weird diameter. You might also be able to just go buy a new one with the correct diameter, but I bored mine out and it fits just fine with no exhaust leaks.
biglilsteve 03-19-2012, 07:15 PM How would I do it without a dremel? Chisel with a flat head screwdriver?
Scooter08 03-19-2012, 07:23 PM HMMMMM....I'm not 100% sure. Not sure what the gasket is made of, but it can be kind of brittle. I think since our cars are a bit newer, it'll be more sturdy. Maybe Mr Dezod Paul has some suggestions. You might even be able to just buy a new gasket..I think they cost 6-15 bucks (at least from what I'm seeing on google). A file might work, but not too sure there. It needed like 1/8 of an inch or so bored out.
paul_dezod 03-20-2012, 07:17 PM How would I do it without a dremel? Chisel with a flat head screwdriver?
Dremel will work the easiest. If you don't own one, it can sure be a life saver for so many projects. You can scoop one from any hardware store for about $30-35. That is the quickest and easiest.
With a chisel or such, you will be there for an hour. Dremel will take all of 5 mins.
The gasket is formed asbestos. Make sure you wear a dust mask, gloves and wash your hands really well after handling it.
Scooter08 03-20-2012, 08:39 PM My dremel has come in handy countless times. Paid 35 for it at Walmart. I've used it on 6 or 7 short shifter installs and the header install, along with many other things around my place/car
biglilsteve 03-20-2012, 09:26 PM Since my header hasn't been produced yet, is it possible for us to avoid this?...or am I oversimplifying the effort it would take to do that?
paul_dezod 03-23-2012, 02:42 PM Some of the tC2 headers have begun trickling out. Frank is pounding the pavement on the second batch right now.
Firemut30 03-24-2012, 03:42 AM It sounds pretty simple. If you've done any of your mods yourself I am sure you can do it.
biglilsteve 03-24-2012, 03:46 AM We will see. Tracking has it being delivered Tuesday! Wont install it until maybe the weekend though. Ill want to get before and after sounds with this and Takeda CAI and TRD exhaust.
Firemut30 03-24-2012, 04:17 AM Anyone noticed better mileage yet with their header?
Scooter08 03-26-2012, 01:37 PM Haven't noticed it either way yet. I had reset my MPG display when I put my intake on, and it's still working its way up. I think I'm at 25.5 (mostly city driving) right now and it seems to be going up still
paul_dezod 03-26-2012, 01:59 PM MPG average also depends on how you drive it. If you're hard on the throttle, the header gains will be negated by your heavy foot.
Scooter08 03-26-2012, 07:21 PM True that Paul. I'm a fairly conservative driver most times so I expect the MPGs to move up and upppppp
Firemut30 03-27-2012, 06:13 AM yep, when it sounds good I can tend to be alittle rough on the beav. I'am always rough on the highway, about 75-80 almost everywhere.
biglilsteve 03-28-2012, 10:29 PM http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i350/biglilsteve1/d277fbde-1.jpg
Is the part circled in yellow the piece that needs to be dremeled off? Just make it smooth and flat with the rest of the part?
disaster06 03-28-2012, 11:14 PM That doesn't seem like a gasket. Gaskets are usually rubbery or cork looking
speterson82 03-29-2012, 12:30 AM ^x2...but if it is.....that's not a dremel job, thats a 3" cut-off wheel and air grinder type job.
noskatehate22 03-29-2012, 12:44 AM I got my tracking info today!! Anyways, Dezod I have a few quick questions:
1) I was planning on wrapping my header when I get it, but from the pictures it looks like the two tubes to the left are pretty close together. Will wrapping this header be possible?
2) Can I wrap the cat too? I know cats are very sensitive to heat so I'm not sure if I should or not.
Awesome product, can't wait to install mine!
biglilsteve 03-29-2012, 01:01 AM ^x2...but if it is.....that's not a dremel job, thats a 3" cut-off wheel and air grinder type job.
Scooter already did it with a dremel
speterson82 03-29-2012, 01:24 AM ....yikes, just doesn't look like the kind of thing youd wanna trust with a little-a$$ dremel. You should do a diy video though it'd be awesome to see someone cut away at a header w/a dremel. I've always considered buying one, but haven't really seen them in action.
Scooter08 03-29-2012, 03:02 AM http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i350/biglilsteve1/d277fbde-1.jpg
Is the part circled in yellow the piece that needs to be dremeled off? Just make it smooth and flat with the rest of the part?
NO NO NO!!! Don't touch that part bro! That's where the gasket gets mounted. That raised part holds the gasket/goes down to the rest of your exhaust!
When you take of the stock header, look at the spot you circled (but on the stock one)..you'll see a graphite colored donut gasket. I carefully used a flat head screw driver and slowly removed the gasket to reuse. It's soft and a dremel should do just fine (though a new one would be easier to do if you dont have a dremel to customize the OEM one)
Like I said, you can dremel the other one out (following Paul's suggestions for safety) or just buy a new one to fit around the part you've circled in yellow on the pic.
Scooter08 03-29-2012, 03:04 AM @Paul, any suggestions for folks looking to just get a new gasket? As far as size and brand?
chicagokid 03-29-2012, 11:37 AM Paul or BiglilSteve... This is looking better and better! Is there a final group buy price? Also can we replace the pipe (from header to exhaust, I have a cat-back exhaust) with a new stainless steel one. Is it called S pipe?
biglilsteve 03-29-2012, 12:29 PM NO NO NO!!! Don't touch that part bro! That's where the gasket gets mounted. That raised part holds the gasket/goes down to the rest of your exhaust!
When you take of the stock header, look at the spot you circled (but on the stock one)..you'll see a graphite colored donut gasket. I carefully used a flat head screw driver and slowly removed the gasket to reuse. It's soft and a dremel should do just fine (though a new one would be easier to do if you dont have a dremel to customize the OEM one)
Like I said, you can dremel the other one out (following Paul's suggestions for safety) or just buy a new one to fit around the part you've circled in yellow on the pic.
Lmao thanks! Thats why I asked haha. Ok I will just have to see if it becomes more clear to me when I compare it to the stock one. And Chicago the limited time price is 479 instead of the 529 regular price :)
paul_dezod 03-29-2012, 01:26 PM http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i350/biglilsteve1/d277fbde-1.jpg
Is the part circled in yellow the piece that needs to be dremeled off? Just make it smooth and flat with the rest of the part?
THAT is the seat for which the GASKET sits on. The gasket bore needs to be opened up to sit on that seat. I take it you do not know what the gasket looks like? Am I correct?
paul_dezod 03-29-2012, 01:27 PM I got my tracking info today!! Anyways, Dezod I have a few quick questions:
1) I was planning on wrapping my header when I get it, but from the pictures it looks like the two tubes to the left are pretty close together. Will wrapping this header be possible?
2) Can I wrap the cat too? I know cats are very sensitive to heat so I'm not sure if I should or not.
Awesome product, can't wait to install mine!
I would advise against wrapping a stainless steel header. It's counterproductive and poor for the material itself.
paul_dezod 03-29-2012, 01:32 PM NO NO NO!!! Don't touch that part bro! That's where the gasket gets mounted. That raised part holds the gasket/goes down to the rest of your exhaust!
When you take of the stock header, look at the spot you circled (but on the stock one)..you'll see a graphite colored donut gasket. I carefully used a flat head screw driver and slowly removed the gasket to reuse. It's soft and a dremel should do just fine (though a new one would be easier to do if you dont have a dremel to customize the OEM one)
Like I said, you can dremel the other one out (following Paul's suggestions for safety) or just buy a new one to fit around the part you've circled in yellow on the pic.
That's right. THE GASKET bore needs to be opened up to seat on that pipe circled.......The factory gasket is like 2 3/8" ID for the slip on. While tubing only comes in 2.25" and 2.5" for standard sizing, this is why this procedure needs to be done.
@Paul, any suggestions for folks looking to just get a new gasket? As far as size and brand?
Brand? Who cares..........
Size...2.5" saddle inlet. Height of about 1/2" or so (same as stock). Width, same as stock.
Paul or BiglilSteve... This is looking better and better! Is there a final group buy price? Also can we replace the pipe (from header to exhaust, I have a cat-back exhaust) with a new stainless steel one. Is it called S pipe?
Where have you been? LOL!
http://www.dezod.com/pd_dezod_motorsports_catalytic.cfm
So long as the s-pipe you select is an OE replacement unit, you can replace whatever you want.
Lmao thanks! Thats why I asked haha. Ok I will just have to see if it becomes more clear to me when I compare it to the stock one. And Chicago the limited time price is 479 instead of the 529 regular price :)
Correct! See link above.
chicagokid 03-29-2012, 01:59 PM That's right. THE GASKET bore needs to be opened up to seat on that pipe circled.......The factory gasket is like 2 3/8" ID for the slip on. While tubing only comes in 2.25" and 2.5" for standard sizing, this is why this procedure needs to be done.
Brand? Who cares..........
Size...2.5" saddle inlet. Height of about 1/2" or so (same as stock). Width, same as stock.
Where have you been? LOL!
http://www.dezod.com/pd_dezod_motorsports_catalytic.cfm
So long as the s-pipe you select is an OE replacement unit, you can replace whatever you want.
Correct! See link above.
Lol... I know my bad! I've been re-searching cat-backs exhaust. Now that's done, this and CAI is my next mod. Geesh... these mods never stops! haha...
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