Most people stereotype about which people drive certain cars. I know that the Celica is known to be a chic car., and the BMW 3 series always seems to be driven by young rich guys. What kind of people do you think drive a tC?? It just seems like there are more people in this forum that are above the average age group of what Scion is trying to target. What's the demographics like in this forum?? Are u guys male, female, have any kids, married, etc...


Also, what do all you girls think about being picked up by a guy who would owns a tC?

I think its more a mans car. Not to many girls i know would want an aftermarket supercharger in their car. But i could see girls driving it. I'm not sure what a girl would say getting picked up in one though.

i guess that depends on the girl your picking up on...

I'm a chick and I'm in the age group that Scion was targeting.(19 to be exact) I dont think the tC is a chick car, although, it does appeal to girls more i think because of all the standard features...like the sunroof. I personally want a performance car, not a "chick car." One way I think the tC could be looked at as a chick car is if its an automatic. (The majority of girls I know hate stick shifts.)

Now being picked up by someone who drives one, well, I'm not too sure. It looks more expencive than it really is, so I guess girls will like it. But I guess it all depends on what type of girl your trying to pick up on.

well im a guy and i guess i'm a targeted age @ 20. I can see how the tC can be a chiks car but overal its a good looking car. You have also consider that the car is stock and hsnt even been out or seen in person...it hasnt hit the 'scene' as some would say. As for me, I grew up with the Corolla and for me the tC would be a considerable improvement...im looking to buy a new corolla XRS, used is300 or used beamer.....if i end up buying the tC then that would say a lot about Scion as a company i dont kno if you would pick up girls with the the tC...depending what kind of girls ur talking about..hehe but im sure it'll break some necks.

oh man. here we go again:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5348&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

i see the car as a unisex car. it is not like a miata and have a stereotype that has. i think more guys will be driving it though.

Well, I'm a guy, and I sell Scion, and I am putting my order in for myself next month. So I don't care what gender owns these, I just think that a lot of people are going to want one, and it's just goin to be a bad ___ car, even without the supercharger, but that I do have to get.

I don't think the Tc is a chick car....although the White and the new blue for it will apppeal to the ladies....

Oh well, if Tavis, Jay and Allen all want tC's then it is definitly a chick car!!!




Doc

Oh well, if Tavis, Jay and Allen all want tC's then it is definitly a chick car!!!




Doc
hey ....... look creamsickle boy......don't mess with us......we have ways of making boxes dissappear......got me :twisted: :twisted:

Oh well, if Tavis, Jay and Allen all want tC's then it is definitly a chick car!!!




Doc
hey ....... look creamsickle boy......don't mess with us......we have ways of making boxes dissappear......got me :twisted: :twisted:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
haha, we got on that one docsnuff.....if it's the Hot Lava that your waiting for, I'm sold out, and I'm sure jay will be able to do something with his....:lol:

In the area where I live, there's hardly any salesman that I run into that owns a new car. They all own used vehicles, which it kind of surprises me that all you sales guys in this forum are going to be ordering your new tC.

In the area where I live, there's hardly any salesman that I run into that owns a new car. They all own used vehicles, which it kind of surprises me that all you sales guys in this forum are going to be ordering your new tC.

In the area where I live, there's hardly any salesman that I run into that owns a new car. They all own used vehicles, which it kind of surprises me that all you sales guys in this forum are going to be ordering your new tC.

well I used to be a stright up honda guy...my every day car a civic. my "plaything" a Integra...but I all about Scion now....first of all I luv the after market support that's out there for Scion....and we're just getting started they should be a lot more in the months to come...you can't find that much aftermarket stuff for toyota, but scion different.....the price is great...it's a toyota so we know it's a great product.....I like the fact that I (a customer) can chose what's on the car...I think it's great...that's why I luv working for Scion...I hate the games car dealers play...and with us there is no games

Well, my wife does love the car...but i definately would own one tho! :wink:

TC is for people who are too caught up in hating domestics to realize the SRT4 is 100 times more car for the money.

=)

TC is for people who are too caught up in hating domestics to realize the SRT4 is 100 times more car for the money.

=)

And the SRT4 is for people who are too caught up in numbers to notice the carr falling apart on them...

TC is for people who are too caught up in hating domestics to realize the SRT4 is 100 times more car for the money.

=)

And the SRT4 is for people who are too caught up in numbers to notice the carr falling apart on them...

all I can say is Damnnnn ..... :shock: :D 8)

TC is for people who are too caught up in hating domestics to realize the SRT4 is 100 times more car for the money.

=)

And the SRT4 is for people who are too caught up in numbers to notice the carr falling apart on them...

I can deal with the occasional repair for an extra 150 horsepower and an LSD thank you.

TC is for people who are too caught up in hating domestics to realize the SRT4 is 100 times more car for the money.

=)

And the SRT4 is for people who are too caught up in numbers to notice the carr falling apart on them...

amen to that :D

TC is for people who are too caught up in hating domestics to realize the SRT4 is 100 times more car for the money.

=)

And the SRT4 is for people who are too caught up in numbers to notice the carr falling apart on them...

all I can say is Damnnnn ..... :shock: :D 8)

I own a scion, an XA, I like it a lot and I think its one of the best cars in its price class for what it is.

The TC has a WHOLE lot of competition in the FWD $19k market. Going to be a much harder sale for people who aren't just scion sack riders. They are just going to have to like the way it looks better than the civic SI and RSX-S etc, and they are going to just have to have irrational beliefs about SRT4 reliability =)

for instance, just checking JDPowers reliability studys - it rates the SRT4 interior quality and feature quality higher than the Toyota Celica, the celica wins on mechanical quality.

Oh well, if Tavis, Jay and Allen all want tC's then it is definitly a chick car!!!




Doc

I think the RS 1.0 is the most perfect example of a chick car! Nothing like the tC, which is totally masculine and oozes testosterone



just kidding Doc

TC is for people who are too caught up in hating domestics to realize the SRT4 is 100 times more car for the money.

=)

And the SRT4 is for people who are too caught up in numbers to notice the carr falling apart on them...

all I can say is Damnnnn ..... :shock: :D 8)

I own a scion, an XA, I like it a lot and I think its one of the best cars in its price class for what it is.

The TC has a WHOLE lot of competition in the FWD $19k market. Going to be a much harder sale for people who aren't just scion sack riders. They are just going to have to like the way it looks better than the civic SI and RSX-S etc, and they are going to just have to have irrational beliefs about SRT4 reliability =)

hey bro I aint hatein....I see that you own a Xa....I thank you for being a scion owner....as far as SRT 4 I don't write bad things about other cars....it's not needed....there are all kinds of info out there for all to see....A good friend of my older sister is high up with dodge....I'm in to imports.....but what my man said above was funny....like I said no hate here.....

Oh well, if Tavis, Jay and Allen all want tC's then it is definitly a chick car!!!




Doc

I think the RS 1.0 is the most perfect example of a chick car! Nothing like the tC, which is totally masculine and oozes testosterone



just kidding Doc
Drew I luv you bro...I luv it with you Cali guys chime in to pile up on ole Doc....what could be better.... :D :D :D

The Mazda 3 is a breezy-mobile.

As for the he-man-ish tC? Well, as long as the FAB 5 can fit in there, i'll sit ON the stick shift!

guessing and sorta stereotype'n...

glass roof, seating for 4, power seat, rich interior, stereo, looks, price - women

supercharger, 17" alloy wheels, stereo, independent suspension, looks, sporty interior, a good start for both perfomance and stereo mods, price - guy

How bout talk'n about ur xA Jackmott and go'n to a srt site to rave about the srt. Seems a more sensible thing to do.

How bout talk'n about ur xA Jackmott and go'n to a srt site to rave about the srt. Seems a more sensible thing to do.

you see i don't understand the hostility to comparisons outside the toyota cult. comparing the Tc to the srt4 is more on topic then jackmott talking about his xA...

please, worship your toyota temple in your own shrine... let us compare all cars to our scion and hopefully allow scion to work towards a better car.

How bout talk'n about ur xA Jackmott and go'n to a srt site to rave about the srt. Seems a more sensible thing to do.

you see i don't understand the hostility to comparisons outside the toyota cult. comparing the Tc to the srt4 is more on topic then jackmott talking about his xA...

please, worship your toyota temple in your own shrine... let us compare all cars to our scion and hopefully allow scion to work towards a better car.

ill defend couper, Jackmotts's making smart ___ comments in most of his posts regarding the scion and SRT-4.

Give it a break dude if you like the car so much go buy yourself one.

Thank you reclusedx and couper! There is a big different in comparing the tC with the srt4 than what jackmott is doing. In almost all his posts he states how great he thinks the srt-4 is and rags on the tC. The tC forum is for talking about the tC, usually good things about it at that. Take the smart ___ comments somewhere else.

well in my opinion, comparing the SRT4 and the tC is like apples and oranges. You can't throw a domestic into a class with imports, no matter how diluted the compact industry is. Imports and Domestics are two completely different categories. If you were to compare the SRT4 to the Focus ZX3 or something, you'd have a plausible argument. In addition, the tC is only slated to start around 17, and with all the standard features, I could see it being very hard to compare a 17k performance Toyota with a 21k+ RSX-S or a 19k Civic Si, which the Si can't be compared either, b/c that damn things a bubble on wheels. The tC, as we all know, borrows alot of styling from luxury vehicles. This is really going to attract any parent who was going to buy their kid a BMW or Audi for their birthday, ya know? The looks and styling of a BMW or Audi, and the reliability and price of a Toyota? I mean come on you can't even really complain about that. I'm just one person, but the tC is easily going to double sales at Scion dealerships, at least here on the East Coast. :D

i hope the tC does good with their sales but i hope it doesnt become too great of a success; to the point where everybody in the neighborhood has one.....from grandma to Johnny the 16 year old with 'powered by honda' stickers on their tC...im uncomfortable with that but theres a good side to that aswell: aftermarket support.

its gonna be a tough decision once june comes along.

That's one thing I'm somewhat worried about too. I don't want to see everyone and their mothers driving a tC. Maybe I should start looking at the xB limited edition one. Oh well. I guess we'll see how it goes in June.

How bout talk'n about ur xA Jackmott and go'n to a srt site to rave about the srt. Seems a more sensible thing to do.

you see i don't understand the hostility to comparisons outside the toyota cult. comparing the Tc to the srt4 is more on topic then jackmott talking about his xA...

please, worship your toyota temple in your own shrine... let us compare all cars to our scion and hopefully allow scion to work towards a better car.

The srt's goal is entirely different than that of the tC's. The srt is a vehicle that sacrafices all else for performance. I'm relatively sure we all understand this. And we all should understand that the tC is more than just that. Simply stating the srt's speed and cornering advantage over the tC is pointless. Stating such over and over is annoying as well as pointless.

Thank you reclusedx and couper! There is a big different in comparing the tC with the srt4 than what jackmott is doing. In almost all his posts he states how great he thinks the srt-4 is and rags on the tC. The tC forum is for talking about the tC, usually good things about it at that. Take the smart ___ comments somewhere else.

so wait. i'm confused. can we only write good things about scions on this board?

all i know is that if i was buying a tC i'd be pretty ____ed if everyone just gave it lipservice and forgot to tell me about the downsides. there are negatives to everything. obviously the tC is not the perfect car for everybody (hello chevy malibu) no matter what you guys might think.
statements like:
Simply stating the srt's speed and cornering advantage over the tC is pointless.
and
You can't throw a domestic into a class with imports...
are just unjustified and uneducated. while you may be able to ignore comparisons to other cars in the SAME class, most potential buyers will not. (and the SC tC will be ~20k and be in the same class as the srt4, civic SI, focus SVT, etc... )
just because you don't like domestics or think there reliability matches that of a toyota, it's beside the point that THERE ARE domestic cars in the same category. and there are many people that buy them. doesn't have to be you or me, but there are people that buy them and i'm sure they have good reasons (like caring more about speed and cornering then glass sunroofs and toyota quality).

now obviously just stating that the srt4 is supierior to the tC is ridiculous (jackmott) but no more ridiculous then ignoring the srt4 as a competitor to the tC purely because its domestic(WestburyScion).

remember, the topic of this thread is whether or not the tC is a chick car... which whether or not i or you agree that it's a sexist issue, will bring comparisons of SPEED and CORNERING vs. SUNROOFS and RECLINING back seats. that's the nature of a question. you get a lot of different answers... some you may not like, but that's why they make different cars for different people.

obviously we are all passionate about cars and that's a good thing... we just need to make sure we don't take someone else's opinion in relation to an innanimate object personally.

i think the tC will be a fantastic car for many people... just not for jackmott ;)

Production will be limited with the tC, even though it will be the volume leader for Scion once it hits our lots. Not everyone who wants one will be able to get one -- for now.

It is something I would not worry about. Just my thoughts --

Scion sales

Yo cowboy, the only class that both the tC and the srt roughly fit in is price. Other than that they are entirely different vehicles.

I don't think that most people that are complaining of comparisons between the two cars are looking at it from a domestic and import point of view. I believe its more of an inexpensive-barebones-crudish-rocket compaired with an inexpensive-refined-sporty-tourer point of view.

Also, how could my statement of:
"Simply stating the srt's speed and cornering advantage over the tC is pointless"
be as you put it:
"just unjustified and uneducated"
when you, yourself made the statement:
"now obviously just stating that the srt4 is supierior to the tC is ridiculous"
Seems like your contradicting yourself.

I do agree with you when you say:
"remember, the topic of this thread is whether or not the tC is a chick car... which whether or not i or you agree that it's a sexist issue, will bring comparisons of SPEED and CORNERING vs. SUNROOFS and RECLINING back seats. that's the nature of a question. you get a lot of different answers... some you may not like, but that's why they make different cars for different people.
obviously we are all passionate about cars and that's a good thing... we just need to make sure we don't take someone else's opinion in relation to an innanimate object personally. -

Yo cowboy, the only class that both the tC and the srt roughly fit in is price. Other than that they are entirely different vehicles.
yes i would agree that they are vehicles for different purposes, but that was my point. i believe people will compare them (even if it is only the price that is simliar) and they obviously are (hello us). if i was to buy a sports car i'd get the srt4. if i was to buy a "sporty" car (where things beyond pure performance mattered) i'd buy a tC. as you said:
I believe its more of an inexpensive-barebones-crudish-rocket compaired with an inexpensive-refined-sporty-tourer point of view.

now concerning:
Also, how could my statement of:
"Simply stating the srt's speed and cornering advantage over the tC is pointless"
be as you put it:
"just unjustified and uneducated"
when you, yourself made the statement:
"now obviously just stating that the srt4 is supierior to the tC is ridiculous"
Seems like your contradicting yourself.

might seem like i am being contradictory, but there is a huge difference between simply saying "my car is better then yours" compared to "my car is better then yours because:...". i think that stating the srt4's "speed and cornering advantage" clearly and concisely lays out the advantage of the srt4 to the tC. can you think of any other advantages???? (i don't think there is any :) )

thanks for your response couper-- it's good to have a civilized discussion.

Ahh, I see what you mean on the difference between our statments Cowboy. Yep, you weren't contradicting yourself. I concede that one should have the right to point out advantages when giving specific examples, ie. speed and cornering. Yup civilized discussion is good stuff.

Production will be limited with the tC, even though it will be the volume leader for Scion once it hits our lots. Not everyone who wants one will be able to get one -- for now.

It is something I would not worry about. Just my thoughts --

Scion sales



Yup, and with a projected sales volume of 30,000 units in it's first year (do the math, that's only 600 per state!), SS is right, not everyone who wants one, will have one.

And that goes for me too!

I cant picture it as a girls car ? But for some reason some people think the Celica is a girls car or an Integra is... ? I dunno it depends on color and if there is a hello kitty sticker seat cover or something...

I think any car is a chick car if there is a chick driving it.
when a guy is driving it i call it the guy's car.

I think it will be chick car. Girls like coupes, parents like toyota, there you go. Its officialy a chick car if its slow, so lets hope its not.

I think any car is a chick car if there is a chick driving it.
when a guy is driving it i call it the guy's car.

I like that thinking......

I think any car is a chick car if there is a chick driving it.
when a guy is driving it i call it the guy's car.

I like that thinking......
but thats not the case, some cars simply look like a chics car or not.
for example a huge ___ truck....ur not gonna tell me it seems like a chics car???

same idea with smaller vehicles....i think IMO

well more and more women do buy trucks today....why do you think SUV sells are so high....trucks and SUV's have taken the place of the sationwagon and minivan.... today more women buy cars and trucks than ever before.....but I think color it the biggest thing...

I'd say its a fairly unisex car. It has performance guys are looking for and special features ladies would like as well.

As far as cars go... as long as it doesn't blow black smoke and has 4 wheels, I've never had a complaint about picking a girl up :D (I still own a Pinto Wagon and used to borrow dad's 86 Toyota 4x4 for dates). Most girls don't have a problem with what you drive and if they do... look elsewhere. :P

Its definitly a chick car!! They will be all running over eachother to get a ride with me :lol:

Honestly, I'd say its unisex. This car is going to appeal to a lot of people. For me, its the fact that they put a decently torquy engine, glass roof, 17" wheels, and from an euro platform.

About the srt versus tc, I'd say both are great cars. I used to be a 110% anti import person about 2 years ago. After going through enough repairs last year which easily double the current value of the car in my sig (extended warrany really pays off on fords ;) ), I can't say enough how much my opinion has changed. The srt4 is a great performing car, however my preference goes to something which is a decent all around performer (quality, reliability, resale value, interior quality, special features, etc).

now that I think about it I think SUV's are chick cars...

I think any car is a chick car if there is a chick driving it.
when a guy is driving it i call it the guy's car.

I like that thinking......
but thats not the case, some cars simply look like a chics car or not.
for example a huge ___ truck....ur not gonna tell me it seems like a chics car???

same idea with smaller vehicles....i think IMO

I think it's just that some people are having trouble with the term "chick car." It sounds a little (or a lot) sexist ... depending on how sensative (or over-sensative) you are to such things.

For those who need to see the argument from a politically correct point of view, I think we're asking whether the tC appeals to stereotypical "feminine sensabilities" or stereotypical "masculine sensabilities."

Most Americans would probably argue that guys like cars with powerful engines, solid performance in turns and braking, exteriors with agressive lines, roomy interiors, and kick ___ stereos.

On the flip side, most Americans would probably argue that women don't care as much about powerful engines, want smooth/comfortable rides as opposed to high-performance on high speed turns and braking, they care a little more about safety features, they tend to want cars with clean lines that aren't too agressive, they don't mind if the interior isn't particularly roomy, and kick ___ stereos tend to just be a nice extra (the specs don't matter as long as it can pick up radio stations and play CDs).

The tC looks like it has both agressive lines and clean (not so agressive) lines, it has a powerful (but not too powerful) engine, it looks like it will split the difference between high performance and luxury/smooth ride, it looks like it has an interior that is neither huge or cramped, it has tons of saftey features, and it has a great (gizmo-loaded) stereo.

So, the tC looks to appeal to both men and women ... but apparently some people want to know if it appeals more to women than to men. An understandable question, considering that most women don't like the xB enough to buy one ... and although more women like the xA, more men are buying the xA than women (at least that's what I heard regarding the people that have already bought Scions).

Personally, I think the tC was just a "safe bet" that Toyota/Scion decided to include in the Scion line in order to make the line more appealing to "traditional" sensabilities. The exterior and interior (though cool) are more "traditional" looking than the xA or xB. Too many older people (including some young folks) just don't appreciate the radical style of the xA and xB. Personally, that style is what makes me want an xA or xB, but many people feel better about the "safe bet" in terms of appearance.

The tC is going to be the best Scion in terms of performance and features, but it doesn't push people's buttons (in either a good or bad way) the way the xA and xB do. It clearly has Scion design elements throughout, but it also sticks closer to "traditional" auto design elements.

As for whether it appeals more to men or women, I think it will appeal to BOTH ... if they have more "traditional" tastes.

very well said.

thanks for breaking it down for us buddy but if u put it that way most cars will satisfy both women and men in one way or another. I think what he wanted to know was by looking at the tC, first glance, if we thought it was a chics car (ie: Celica, majority owners are guys but it still looks like chics car) or not...

thanks for breaking it down for us buddy but if u put it that way most cars will satisfy both women and men in one way or another. I think what he wanted to know was by looking at the tC, first glance, if we thought it was a chics car (ie: Celica, majority owners are guys but it still looks like chics car) or not...

OK. I get what you're saying ... in that case I think only time will tell. The tC might turn out to be a chick car or might turn out to be a car for white suburbanite dads in their 30s and 40s. What we might be talking about without really talking about it is a social construct/pubic consciousness ... a mass opinion/stereotype formulated about a certain type of car and the people who drive it.

For example, the Miata is now considered by most Americans to a "chick car" or a car for homosexuals or middle-aged men having a mid-life crisis and small ... err ... bank accounts. Now, the reasons for this are very complex, but I'll get to the point and say that if lots of masculine male celebrities drove Miatas and Miata commercials were filled with "ruff-n-tuff" stereotypical men picking up sexy women with huge breasts ... well, the Miata wouldn't be thought of the same way. But since it has entered the public consciousness the way it has, we associate the Miata with women, homosexuals, and lame men in their 40s and 50s.

As for the Celica, most of the people I know don't think of it as a "chick car" ... other than the fact that its lines look clean/feminine rather than agressive/masculine and the interior is somewhat small. That said, the "public consciousness" of the Celica may be moving (or may have already moved) in the same direction as the Miata ... who knows?

We couldmake the argument that all compact, sporty, yet affordable cars look like"chick cars" because they have elements that appeal to women, but I don't know.

Some cars immidiately enter the public consciousness in a certain way. Trucks, regardless of the manufacturer, features, or exterior design, are always considered manly utility/work vehicles or manly tuner vehicles... even customized trucks with giant speakers and hydrolics in the beds. I mean you would have to go out of your way to make a truck a "chick car" ... like painting it pink and putting Hello Kitty stickers everywhere.

Sorry for the long posts. I just really find this thread interesting. Anyway, I think we'll have to wait and see what the public thinks of the tC before we know if it's a chick car or not.

I like the tC. I'd get on if the insurance didn't kill me.

We'll see. :D

Okay i think the TC is a chick car.....
pssttt dont buy it (that way no one will buy it when it comes out and
i will be guaranteed to get mine uhmmm sounds good)

Okay i think the TC is a chick car.....
pssttt dont buy it (that way no one will buy it when it comes out and
i will be guaranteed to get mine uhmmm sounds good)

haha yeah.

Anyways, i think you're right Rustedbug..timm will tell.

If it was white with a black rag top....and had a VW logo on the back, then it would be a chicks car.

KiL

Does anyone here read car and driver or road and track? I do. The "lame men" (the same ones who rebuild their own cars, the same ones that used to race cars without seatbelts, helmets, etc) that write for these mags love the miata. They don't see it as a car exclusively for women or homosexual men. The miata reminds them of the small sporty english cars of the past. Not terribly fast but nimble, these cars were completely different than the flying bricks of the day, the american muscle car. Sure a muscle car could out drag anything, but the english cars dusted anything in the curves. Just because something is small and lean doesn't make it weak. I'm 6'1" and even if I was built like body builder I still wouldn't mess with Jacky Chan. Get my point?

I see at least one pickup a day with a rainbow sticker on it, yet I've never have seen a miata nor a celica with one. Half the Jeeps, full sized pickups, fulls sized suvs, 350 Zs, Vettes, Mustangs, Cameros, Firebirds, etc I noticed have women drivers, if not more than half. Ok, rant over. :D

agreed... funny thing is you ever pass through West Hollywood, even the cop cars out there have rainbows on them...

The only place this discussion could happen is America. No one has image problems like we do. Men have to assert their machismo or risk being called ___ or fruity, to say nothing of the metrosexual movement. This goes far beyond cars.

However, this happens on every car forum I visit. "Car X is for old people." "Car Y is for high school girls." "Car Z is for soccer moms."

Honestly, what the hell does it matter? I think it is outright retarded to label a vehicle as a "chick car." So maybe the demographic indicates more female buyers/drivers or maybe there are some features that appeal to women. So what? Does that mean a male should be self-concious about driving it?

Why do we care so much about what other people think? If you like a car, buy it and enjoy it. And who knows, maybe a girl (or if you're a girl, then a guy) will pull up next to you at stop light or gas station and maybe strike up a convo because you have the same car.

I can't believe we're talking about this. We, as a culture, as a society, have become so obsessed with presentation and perception that we are no longer able to enjoy life because we're worried about making an impression, the right impression, on others.

This discussion makes me ill. Personally, I like the dual moonroofs and the reclining seats. Those are some of the features that set the car apart for me. Does that make me ___?

Finally, I would prefer that a good-looking girl drive the tC rather than some 16-year old high school punk who put neon all over it and staples on a fart pipe. That would embarass me; someone of the opposite sex driving the same car I have would not.

People have some serious issues they need to get over.

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Well all over Europe, Japan, and Latin America they are obsessed with image... trust me...

and Yes Dual Moonroofs make you ___... http://www.scionlife.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

and 2nd the motion to shut up on the ugly american SRT...

Well all over Europe, Japan, and Latin America they are obsessed with image... trust me...

and Yes Dual Moonroofs make you ___... http://www.scionlife.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

and 2nd the motion to shut up on the ugly american SRT...

No doubt they are image obsessed, but not when it comes to cars. People in those countries don't feel the need to assert themselves with the type of vehicle they drive.

And as for the dual moonroofs...screw you.

I think its more a mans car. Not to many girls i know would want an aftermarket supercharger in their car.


I do! :) A supercharger sounds delicious lol

I think its more a mans car. Not to many girls i know would want an aftermarket supercharger in their car.


I do! :) A supercharger sounds delicious lol
does that mean its a $3000 option to make it a man's car? :lol:

does that mean its a $3000 option to make it a man's car? :lol:

No I think you have to add testicles to make it a man's car lol :P

I think it's funny to read so much thought put into "chick car vs. guy car". This is not a political science forum and should not be taken in such context. To suggest that we as a society would crumble if we categorize cars according to what gender we think would drive it, is completely ludicrous. If you look, the great societies of the ancient world (such as the Romans, Egyptians, and Greeks) it was when the society became so left-wing as to blur the lines of gender identity that they began to fall. It is my belief that these assignments of gender are a trademark of true expression of thoughts and feelings, as opposed to repressing them in interest of political correctness.

Oh ____, look what you made me do; I put way too much thought into this post. Stupid, me, stupid, stupid. :oops:

As for the question at hand, I think the TC is a guy car based solely on the fact that I'm a guy and I want one.

I think it's funny to read so much thought put into "chick car vs. guy car". This is not a political science forum and should not be taken in such context. To suggest that we as a society would crumble if we categorize cars according to what gender we think would drive it, is completely ludicrous. If you look, the great societies of the ancient world (such as the Romans, Egyptians, and Greeks) it was when the society became so left-wing as to blur the lines of gender identity that they began to fall. It is my belief that these assignments of gender are a trademark of true expression of thoughts and feelings, as opposed to repressing them in interest of political correctness.

Oh ____, look what you made me do; I put way too much thought into this post. Stupid, me, stupid, stupid. :oops:

As for the question at hand, I think the TC is a guy car based solely on the fact that I'm a guy and I want one.

Honestly, what the hell are you talking about? First of all, this is "debate" is more in the realm of sociology than political science. Secondly, this was an incredibly stupid topic to begin with, and died a while ago.

There should be a rule against resurrecting inconsequential threads. It really wastes bandwidth.

:x

It's a guy car. I want one and I refuse to believe I would want a chick car. 8)

If you look, the great societies of the ancient world (such as the Romans, Egyptians, and Greeks) it was when the society became so left-wing as to blur the lines of gender identity that they began to fall. It is my belief that these assignments of gender are a trademark of true expression of thoughts and feelings, as opposed to repressing them in interest of political correctness.

Gender identity will always be, as you put it, blurred. It has, is, and always shall be a natural and normal occurance in humans. Gender identity had absolutly nothing to do with the fall of the Romans, Egyptians, and Greeks.