"Wooshing" sound unsuccessfully diagnosed as CV Joint
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"Wooshing" sound unsuccessfully diagnosed as CV Joint
Hi everyone.
I'm hoping to get some suggestions on what could be causing a "wooshing" sound on my 2008 Scion tC. I have had this issue for almost a year with no resolution and of course, I have no warranty.
There is a rythmic "woosh" coming from the front right tire/wheel. It is most noticeable at slower speeds, especially 5-10 MPH. It is still present at higher speeds but harder to hear. It sounds like the tire is rubbing on something. It does not squeak or squeal and there is no grinding sound. It's just a very rythmic "woosh" as the wheel rotates. It makes the noise all the time, not just when turning. So far I have been told:
*That my tires needed to be rotated. That didn't resolve the issue.
* That my brakes needed to be replaced. That did not resolve the issue.
*Yesterday, I was told that the CV joint needed to be replaced. $370 dollars later...the damn "woosh" is still there.
They now think the CV joint that they replaced yesterday may be bad and they want to replace it with another one this afternoon. I honestly don't think it's the CV joint. I've been looking online for possible alternative causes and so far the only things I have seen that are similar to what I'm hearing have had to do with the backing plate, wheel barrings or caliper pins.
If anyone has any ideas on what to suggest they look for, I would be so grateful. I'm at my witts end trying to get rid of this noise.
I'm hoping to get some suggestions on what could be causing a "wooshing" sound on my 2008 Scion tC. I have had this issue for almost a year with no resolution and of course, I have no warranty.
There is a rythmic "woosh" coming from the front right tire/wheel. It is most noticeable at slower speeds, especially 5-10 MPH. It is still present at higher speeds but harder to hear. It sounds like the tire is rubbing on something. It does not squeak or squeal and there is no grinding sound. It's just a very rythmic "woosh" as the wheel rotates. It makes the noise all the time, not just when turning. So far I have been told:
*That my tires needed to be rotated. That didn't resolve the issue.
* That my brakes needed to be replaced. That did not resolve the issue.
*Yesterday, I was told that the CV joint needed to be replaced. $370 dollars later...the damn "woosh" is still there.
They now think the CV joint that they replaced yesterday may be bad and they want to replace it with another one this afternoon. I honestly don't think it's the CV joint. I've been looking online for possible alternative causes and so far the only things I have seen that are similar to what I'm hearing have had to do with the backing plate, wheel barrings or caliper pins.
If anyone has any ideas on what to suggest they look for, I would be so grateful. I'm at my witts end trying to get rid of this noise.
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You stated no warranty? You have a 1st gen because this is posted under 2nd Gen tC. None the less, just out of curiosity, what tires are you running? I have a "whooshing" sounds coming from the left side and I have been told it is tires. I rotated them too but to no avail. Whooshing coming from both left side tires basically.
Are you taking it to the dealer and they cant find it? Make sure to take a ride with the tech, explain whats going on, and then when you pick your car back up - ride with the tech again. I have no idea why they can not diagnose this for you, I am just wondering (and not that it really matters) are you going to a toyota/scion dealership, or are you going to like a jiffy lube/NTB to fix this?
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Sorry if I posted under the wrong section. I don't know 1st Gen from 2nd Gen.
I don't know what tires I have. The gentleman at Tores Plus said my tires still look good though. I have had my tires rotated twice since this started and it made it a little quieter but the rubbing gets louder again after a few weeks.
They just checked the wheel bearings, caliper pins and backing plate and everything was perfect. They have no clue what the problem is, but said it may be something to do with the transmission.
I'm on my way to the Toyota dealership now, hoping they can determine the cause.
I don't know what tires I have. The gentleman at Tores Plus said my tires still look good though. I have had my tires rotated twice since this started and it made it a little quieter but the rubbing gets louder again after a few weeks.
They just checked the wheel bearings, caliper pins and backing plate and everything was perfect. They have no clue what the problem is, but said it may be something to do with the transmission.
I'm on my way to the Toyota dealership now, hoping they can determine the cause.
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I took it to the Toyota dealership and they inspected it at no charge.
They agreed with the guys from Tires Plus, that all looks well with the bearings, the caliper pins and the backing plate. The Service Manager was very nice but said there was nothing they could find wrong although they did hear the noise.
The technician agreed to go for a drive with me so that I was sure he understood the sound that I'm hearing. When we got off the lot he asked me to pull over and he pointed out what he called "cupping" on the tires. He said that although there is plenty of tread left on the tires, they are cupping and that is what is causing the noise. He also said, off-the-record, that he sees a lot of these cars with the same issue. He let me know that I should expect to replace my tires more often on this car and before the "life" of the tire is up.
I have Nitto tires now, that were new when I purchased the car in 2010. 215/45/17 - Rating: 250/AA/A. I've put 14,000 miles on these tires and the noise started after approx 10,000 miles of wear. The technician recommended that I get Michelin tires and to look for ones with a rating of 350-400/AA/A instead of the 250 I have now.
$600 for new tires, balancing and alignment seems to be the only option left to try. It's certainly a more wallet pleasing option than that new 2012 Scion tC that I was eying at the dealership. Thank you for the suggestions!
They agreed with the guys from Tires Plus, that all looks well with the bearings, the caliper pins and the backing plate. The Service Manager was very nice but said there was nothing they could find wrong although they did hear the noise.
The technician agreed to go for a drive with me so that I was sure he understood the sound that I'm hearing. When we got off the lot he asked me to pull over and he pointed out what he called "cupping" on the tires. He said that although there is plenty of tread left on the tires, they are cupping and that is what is causing the noise. He also said, off-the-record, that he sees a lot of these cars with the same issue. He let me know that I should expect to replace my tires more often on this car and before the "life" of the tire is up.
I have Nitto tires now, that were new when I purchased the car in 2010. 215/45/17 - Rating: 250/AA/A. I've put 14,000 miles on these tires and the noise started after approx 10,000 miles of wear. The technician recommended that I get Michelin tires and to look for ones with a rating of 350-400/AA/A instead of the 250 I have now.
$600 for new tires, balancing and alignment seems to be the only option left to try. It's certainly a more wallet pleasing option than that new 2012 Scion tC that I was eying at the dealership. Thank you for the suggestions!
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I took it to the Toyota dealership and they inspected it at no charge.
They agreed with the guys from Tires Plus, that all looks well with the bearings, the caliper pins and the backing plate. The Service Manager was very nice but said there was nothing they could find wrong although they did hear the noise.
The technician agreed to go for a drive with me so that I was sure he understood the sound that I'm hearing. When we got off the lot he asked me to pull over and he pointed out what he called "cupping" on the tires. He said that although there is plenty of tread left on the tires, they are cupping and that is what is causing the noise. He also said, off-the-record, that he sees a lot of these cars with the same issue. He let me know that I should expect to replace my tires more often on this car and before the "life" of the tire is up.
I have Nitto tires now, that were new when I purchased the car in 2010. 215/45/17 - Rating: 250/AA/A. I've put 14,000 miles on these tires and the noise started after approx 10,000 miles of wear. The technician recommended that I get Michelin tires and to look for ones with a rating of 350-400/AA/A instead of the 250 I have now.
$600 for new tires, balancing and alignment seems to be the only option left to try. It's certainly a more wallet pleasing option than that new 2012 Scion tC that I was eying at the dealership. Thank you for the suggestions!
They agreed with the guys from Tires Plus, that all looks well with the bearings, the caliper pins and the backing plate. The Service Manager was very nice but said there was nothing they could find wrong although they did hear the noise.
The technician agreed to go for a drive with me so that I was sure he understood the sound that I'm hearing. When we got off the lot he asked me to pull over and he pointed out what he called "cupping" on the tires. He said that although there is plenty of tread left on the tires, they are cupping and that is what is causing the noise. He also said, off-the-record, that he sees a lot of these cars with the same issue. He let me know that I should expect to replace my tires more often on this car and before the "life" of the tire is up.
I have Nitto tires now, that were new when I purchased the car in 2010. 215/45/17 - Rating: 250/AA/A. I've put 14,000 miles on these tires and the noise started after approx 10,000 miles of wear. The technician recommended that I get Michelin tires and to look for ones with a rating of 350-400/AA/A instead of the 250 I have now.
$600 for new tires, balancing and alignment seems to be the only option left to try. It's certainly a more wallet pleasing option than that new 2012 Scion tC that I was eying at the dealership. Thank you for the suggestions!
Haha... Could be a bent rim! Have you hit anything?
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The 2012 tC is looking better and better everyday!!
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incorrect; if u lift your vehicle and try to wiggle the tire from side to side (while the wheel is tightly bolted on....) any play = WHEEL bearing.
but first, do this.
1> Check your brake dust shield and make sure it's not contacting your rotors.
2> Then try the wiggle method. If so, replace your wheel bearing. Sometime's it wont give u a lot of play but you'll still have to replace it anyway; get it inspect anyhow, most places will do so for free or very minimal charge.
but first, do this.
1> Check your brake dust shield and make sure it's not contacting your rotors.
2> Then try the wiggle method. If so, replace your wheel bearing. Sometime's it wont give u a lot of play but you'll still have to replace it anyway; get it inspect anyhow, most places will do so for free or very minimal charge.
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